Discussion Was I wrong about porn?

[Deleted member 29115]

When I gave my thoughts on porn IT ridiculed me. I truly think porn aids to inceldom but I know it's immoral to force people to do something. I feel like if I asked you guys whether it should be banned I'd get mixed opinions. There could be a case be an accelerationist case for it however: if I wanted to speed up societal collapse, or is the very idea of "speeding things up" bunk?

 

[epillepsy]

I think speeding up social collapse is a bad idea, because as bad as it is now, there is still too much room to go.

Examples:
Incels are not put in concentration camps yet.
It's not illegal to look at foids yet.
Post-birth abortions are still frowned upon.
You are still allowed not to fuck trannies.

We would have to live through those things before society collapses, at least, because these things are close to happening, but the signs of collapse aren't evident enough.
We need to stem the decadence as soon as possible.

 

[Deleted member 29115]

Examples:
Incels are not put in concentration camps yet.
It's not illegal to look at foids yet.
Post-birth abortions are still frowned upon.
You are still allowed not to fuck trannies.

Those are severe human rights violations though.

 

[epillepsy]

Those are severe human rights violations though.

Many countries have put people in concentration camps.
Human rights were even revoked after 9/11.
History is filled with human rights violations.
In Canada, it's illegal to misgender a tranny.
In India, a woman cannot be arrested for stalking.
In some countries, prostitution is illegal for man but not the whore.
We're not so far off from a bleak future.
A lot of things we would have thought ridiculous in the past have come to pass.

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

Those are severe human rights violations though.

human rights are only a veil. NWO could take your human rights away at any point if they thought it good enough. Waco was a human rights violation and nobody cared.

 

[epillepsy]

If that's true, that's fucked up.

https://www.cbc.ca/cbcdocspov/features/canadas-gender-identity-rights-bill-c-16-explained

 

[Neggr]

I hope the jews do the gleichschaltung soon

 

[TallCelFag]

We need to build an organization advocating all mens’ right to sex & pro-prostitution, and which addresses the incel phenomenon and the blackpill. This site and the incel wiki is a good start. Basically pump your money into various incel-friendly projects. Not sure if this relates to your question OP.

 

[epillepsy]

Well, not so bad. A slight misdirection shouldn't end you in jail.

I think it's bad.
It shouldn't be illegal to say words.

 

[Deleted member 29115]

Many countries have put people in concentration camps.
Human rights were even revoked after 9/11.
History is filled with human rights violations.
In Canada, it's illegal to misgender a tranny.
In India, a woman cannot be arrested for stalking.
In some countries, prostitution is illegal for man but not the whore.
We're not so far off from a bleak future.
A lot of things we would have thought ridiculous in the past have come to pass.

It seems very unlikely that society would turn a genocidal attitude towards whoever is unattractive. Especially with BLM and all. It would be about-face to say the least.

 

[epillepsy]

I agree. I just imagined it so be far worse.

But notice how it's "unlikely" that you would be jailed for accidentally using the wrong pronoun.
That answer is so wishy-washy and the law is very open for interpretation.

It seems very unlikely that society would turn a genocidal attitude towards whoever is unattractive. Especially with BLM and all. It would be about-face to say the least.

Do you believe the holocaust occurred?

 

[Deleted member 27159]

I think speeding up social collapse is a bad idea, because as bad as it is now, there is still too much room to go.

Examples:
Incels are not put in concentration camps yet.
It's not illegal to look at foids yet.
Post-birth abortions are still frowned upon.
You are still allowed not to fuck trannies.

We would have to live through those things before society collapses, at least, because these things are close to happening, but the signs of collapse aren't evident enough.
We need to stem the decadence as soon as possible.

Although things are bad now it can get much worse. Maybe it would be good to speed up collapse while skipping those steps

IT ridiculed me

Just ignore them. Who cares about a bunch of cucks and landwhales think?

 

[epillepsy]

Although things are bad now it can get much worse. Maybe it would be good to speed up collapse while skipping those steps

I don't see how that would be accomplished to skip those steps. A war or economic event would need to happen.
But otherwise, society won't collapse until gynocracy has become ludicrous in its influence.

 

[Deleted member 27159]

I don't see how that would be accomplished to skip those steps. A war or economic event would need to happen.
But otherwise, society won't collapse until gynocracy has become ludicrous in its influence.

It could happen through some sort of revolution

 

[your personality]

In India, a woman cannot be arrested for stalking.

jfl if true.

 

[epillepsy]

jfl if true.

Stalking - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Go to India section.

It could happen through some sort of revolution

like a civil war, maybe.

 

[your personality]

Stalking - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Go to India section.

Interesting

Wayback Machine

web.archive.org

@Legendarywristcel @DirtyCurryCell can you confirm you've seen or heard about this law?

 

[Mecoja]

Many countries have put people in concentration camps.
Human rights were even revoked after 9/11.
History is filled with human rights violations.
In Canada, it's illegal to misgender a tranny.
In India, a woman cannot be arrested for stalking.
In some countries, prostitution is illegal for man but not the whore.
We're not so far off from a bleak future.
A lot of things we would have thought ridiculous in the past have come to pass.

High iq, i never thought about this, in near future incels could be so demonised so a someone pointing a finger at you and calling you an incel and if they link you to incel community, could actually get you to be treated as terrorist and as national threat you lose automatically all human rights and end locked up for no legitimate reason.

 

[epillepsy]

High iq, i never thought about this, in near future incels could be so demonised so a someone pointing a finger at you and calling you an incel and if they link you to incel community, could actually get you to be treated as terrorist and as national threat you lose automatically all human rights and end locked up for no legitimate reason.

definitely we would be for using this site.
even if not all unattractive males would be classified as threats.

 

[Deleted member 29115]

Do you believe the holocaust occurred?

Yes, but Jews have the highest IQs I don't really think they could be compared if we are talking about incel genocide.

 

[epillepsy]

Yes, but Jews have the highest IQs I don't really think they could be compared if we are talking about incel genocide.

It's comparable; I don't see what IQ has anything to do with it.
And if you say that it's hard to say what is an incel or not, remember:
there's an easy classification for incels -- men who have posted on incel subs and forums.
And guess what, that includes you and me.
The opinion of the masses changes on a dime. Foids, especially, the main enemy of incels and the most protected, privileged, influential group of "people" that the governments of the world bend over backwards to accommodate, wouldn't blink an eye before saying that we should be jailed or even killed.
Genocides happen all the time.
Incels are as hated as anybody.
If something like a 9/11 event occurs and an incel is involved (or even a false flag attack), how do you think people would perceive us? It would be worse than Hitler with the Jews.

 

[your personality]

It's comparable; I don't see what IQ has anything to do with it.
And if you say that it's hard to say what is an incel or not, remember:
there's an easy classification for incels -- men who have posted on incel subs and forums.
And guess what, that includes you and me.
The opinion of the masses changes on a dime. Foids, especially, the main enemy of incels and the most protected, privileged, influential group of "people" that the governments of the world bend over backwards to accommodate, wouldn't blink an eye before saying that we should be jailed or even killed.
Genocides happen all the time.
Incels are as hated as anybody.
If something like a 9/11 event occurs and an incel is involved (or even a false flag attack), how do you think people would perceive us? It would be worse than Hitler with the Jews.

I talked about this in a thread I made

https://incels.is/threads/unpopular-opinion-incels-have-been-granted-a-temporary-reprieve.238536/

Whether you agree or not with not, incels shouldn't encourage ERs and mass attacks. It will lead to the persecution of other incels not related to violence in any way.

 

[Deleted member 29115]

It's comparable; I don't see what IQ has anything to do with it.
And if you say that it's hard to say what is an incel or not, remember:
there's an easy classification for incels -- men who have posted on incel subs and forums.

I mean this is very Orwellian. If posting on this forum is a transgression than it would be a thoughtcrime.

 

[epillepsy]

I talked about this in a thread I made

https://incels.is/threads/unpopular-opinion-incels-have-been-granted-a-temporary-reprieve.238536/

Whether you agree or not with not, incels shouldn't encourage ERs and mass attacks. It will lead to the persecution of other incels not related to violence in any way.

It would not be good for us if such an attack were to occur.

I mean this is very Orwellian. If posting on this forum is a transgression than it would be a thoughtcrime.

Yes, you are exactly correct.

 

[DarwinsDisgrace]

Its a chicken or egg argument but an easier one to solve:

Inceldom = porn use

 

[your personality]

It would not be good for us if such an attack were to occur.

Agreed. The thing is many such attacks have been tried to be blamed on the manosphere but have failed because there were no edgy posters talking up violence.

In the early years of this forum in 2017 and 2018 and after AM there was a lot of semi-ironic posting about going ER. That kind of posting makes it easier for people to target incels and justify them as a threat that needs to be cracked down on for condoning and encouraging attacks on civilians.
It's not in incel's best interest to do this.

Some will say incels will be blamed regardless no matter how they act and to some extent this is true. But incels shouldn't make it easier for others to paint them as violent or encouraging violence.

 

[Deleted member 29115]

Its a chicken or egg argument but an easier one to solve:
Inceldom = porn use

So if we get rid of porn use, we destroy inceldom correct?

 

[I want to believe]

I think porn is an effect, not a cause.

 

[DarwinsDisgrace]

So if we get rid of porn use, we destroy inceldom correct?

ok inceldom leads to porn use but not necessarily the other way around

 

[Deleted member 29115]

I think porn is an effect, not a cause.

A bleeding that needs a bandaid

 

[I want to believe]

A bleeding that needs a bandaid

Yes, well said.

 

[Deleted member 29115]

ok inceldom leads to porn use but not necessarily the other way around

Ok but what are the positive externalities?

 

[DarwinsDisgrace]

Ok but what are the positive externalities?

Very few, I think that there are some normies who would have gf's if they didn't have an addiction to porn because they are shut ins but I subscribe to the belief that when it comes to involuntary celibacy looks >>>>> personality or any pattern of behaviour.

 

[The Zulfigar]

Many countries have put people in concentration camps.
Human rights were even revoked after 9/11.
History is filled with human rights violations.
In Canada, it's illegal to misgender a tranny.
In India, a woman cannot be arrested for stalking.
In some countries, prostitution is illegal for man but not the whore.
We're not so far off from a bleak future.
A lot of things we would have thought ridiculous in the past have come to pass.

Wat is misgender

 

[epillepsy]

Wat is misgender

It's a term normies use to mean when you properly say the gender of a tranny.

 

[The Zulfigar]

It's a term normies use to mean when you properly say the gender of a tranny.

Haha. Fucking idiots. Next Up: 1) getting fined for negative unexpressed thoughts about those animals. 2) death sentence for expressing disgust

 

[Total Imbecile]

Porn is female worship

 

[CrackingYs]

I think speeding up social collapse is a bad idea, because as bad as it is now, there is still too much room to go.

Yep, we are fortunate to live in an era where its actually possible to LDAR and NEET in peace. Even without a female in my life, at least i can kick my feet up and watch movies all day in a comfortable home. If society collapses, and food riots start, and BLM gangs start raiding peoples houses for food and then burn everything in their wake etc, things are going to go to shit so badly you won't be thinking about not getting teen poontang, you'll be thinking about how to steal enough food to survive another day.

 

[epillepsy]

Yep, we are fortunate to live in an era where its actually possible to LDAR and NEET in peace. Even without a female in my life, at least i can kick my feet up and watch movies all day in a comfortable home. If society collapses, and food riots start, and BLM gangs start raiding peoples houses for food and then burn everything in their wake etc, things are going to go to shit so badly you won't be thinking about not getting teen poontang, you'll be thinking about how to steal enough food to survive another day.

I feel like things have progressed to a point just short of many people wanting to rope or take other actions.
But if they keep taking things away one by one, eventually there will be a breaking point, and it will be a very unpleasant situation before the collapse actually happens.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

Interesting

Wayback Machine

web.archive.org

@Legendarywristcel @DirtyCurryCell can you confirm you've seen or heard about this law?

JFL, 80% of all curries would be in jail if this law was enforced.

 

[Animecel2D]

I don’t know man, you tell me.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

Those are severe human rights violations though.

you seem to forget the part where we're not deemed human

 

[Mainländer]

Incels are not put in concentration camps yet.
It's not illegal to look at foids yet.
Post-birth abortions are still frowned upon.
You are still allowed not to fuck trannies.

Please come back, Jesus