Blackpill Was anyone here blackpilled/aware of looks before the "incel" term was even famous?Someone found the blackpill on their own instead of being shown it?

[Zyros]

I started to research on looks on my own before reading anything on the internet about halo effect or shit. In my life, there was one point in which suddenly everyone started treting me better (I upped 2 points, from 3 to 5), caught me with surprise because my attitude was the same (and I thought it was about attitude). Then I casually found some old pic album and saw how different I looked and something clicked. Then I started looking information about what makes a guy better looking, and it coincided with the changes in the pics. So I started browsing forums like plastic surgery ones or bodybuilding, and looking for other people experiencing looks changes in some mainstream forums. Some time later I found about what incel, redpill and blackpill meant, and found PSLI forums and reddit subs.

Anyone of you reached the blackpill on their own instead of discovering it trough mainstream/people talking about it?

 

[Iamthesui]

Kinda? It was more about mentalceldom as I was a weird fucking kid, and as I "grew" up I became less weird and my face kinda worked itself out.
Tbh I always thought the blackpill, or at least the redpill was common knowledge

 

[rabitter]

I've been aware ever since middle school. Just didn't know of the right words to explain the feeling. I always noticed how the good looking kids were treated better than me. I always noticed how I was picked last for any sport. How some kids were able to get away with anything while I was punished for the slightest of transgressions. I knew it was because I was one of ugliest in the class - I knew it because only my mum complimented me on anything. Even the teachers despised me

 

[Tension]

Yes, and I have written about it in previous threads, but I will say it again:

I was familiar with both terms, "Love Shy" and "Involuntarily Celibate" from as early as 2012, when I was 14. I didn't know about any "Blackpill/Redpill/Bluepill" ideology though. I sometimes reminisce over the time when I first discovered the Wikipedia article on "Involuntary Celibacy" back then, I could relate to it so much. It's truly saddening to see how drastically different that article is now. In the present day, the article is authored by progressive CuckTears users who want to put us under the worst light possible.

 

[PersonalityChad]

It's not that hard to reach the blackpill conclusion tbh. All you need is to experience it first hand.

 

[allbluee]

Knew about the blackpill since kindergarden. I always wanted to know why one guy had more girls and more guys to play with in the sandpit.

One day my little kid brain realized that the popular guys were either better looking than me or richer than me.

The first day of my middle school i analysed every guy in the class and already knew who was gonna be popular and who would have the most female friends. My predictions were right. Girls would rather play hide and seek with the gl guy rather than me. Back to that time i was not sad, because i did not need any female attention but was only curious how girls are. Too sad that i could never experience any contact to girls back then.

 

[Unzöl]

Unfortunately I got my first blackpill awareness on r/Braincels. Before that I was redpilled due to TRP. When I was younger I already had the impression that good looking people got privileged in many aspects of life but I still fell for the personality bluepill.

 

[TheRealChincel]

I knew about it in late elementary school when I saw girls gravitate to certain guys and realized it was because of their looks. There was one girl I had a lot in common with: comic books, movies, baseball, etc. However, she went for a guy with a broad face who hated comic books and loved hockey. I, on the other hand, had that Low-T triangle face and big goofy ears so repulsion from girls was all I received once I showed interest.

 

[Pinkett Mouse]

No, i didn't. Too bad. I would have needed to know at least about red pill in my 20ies and early 30ies.

 

[lessthanhuman]

I already knew the bluepilled meme about personality being important was bullshit, because I saw myself how superficial women everywhere advertised how they only wanted tall guys and bad boys, which already disproved the personality meme. However, I bought into redpill bullshit, I thought face, height and frame weren't so important if you gymcelled, and that with confidence and masculinity would be enough to get women interested. Only after these failed, did I learn about the blackpill and come to accept it.

 

[acnescarcel]

i knew from childhood that all that mattered was LMS

 

[iKillCucks]

I only recently discovered incels and the incel communities but i always knew abou the blackpill but i didn't know the correct term for the term of the truth in life until i found out about this site

 

[Zesto]

Well I of course knew how important looks were.

But I never realized how over it was for the majority of men in the west that weren't Chads or Chadlites until I swallowed the black pill.

At one time, even recently I once had thought I had somewhat of a chance in the west yet I was fortunate enough to soon discover that not even a westernized rotten banana would go out with me in this hellish, degenerate sick western society.

 

[ShadowMonk]

I knew I was ugly.
I didn't know the ramifications of being so.

 

[Doug]

I started to research on looks on my own before reading anything on the internet about halo effect or shit. In my life, there was one point in which suddenly everyone started treting me better (I upped 2 points, from 3 to 5), caught me with surprise because my attitude was the same (and I thought it was about attitude). Then I casually found some old pic album and saw how different I looked and something clicked. Then I started looking information about what makes a guy better looking, and it coincided with the changes in the pics. So I started browsing forums like plastic surgery ones or bodybuilding, and looking for other people experiencing looks changes in some mainstream forums. Some time later I found about what incel, redpill and blackpill meant, and found PSLI forums and reddit subs.

Anyone of you reached the blackpill on their own instead of discovering it trough mainstream/people talking about it?

Ive lost 120lbs, after that everyone treated me like i was a totally different person


Denying the blackpill is like denying the holocaust



Even a 1 Point increase in Looks can have dramatic effects on your life

 

[Unmerited]

One day my little kid brain realized that the popular guys were either better looking than me or richer than me.

This.

 

[gylo]

The blackpill is recognized and pervasive across media, social boundaries, etc.

What zyros might not get is that EVERYONE KNOWS THE BLACKPILL to some extent, instinctively.

However, it's been scientifically proven that serotonin has a nullifying effect against falling into despair over the pointlessness of everything. Strong social bonds block the pain that comes with knowing how ugly you are, which is why ugly normies with lots of friends manage to cope without complaint. It's not even a conscious phenomenon, its an adaptive strategy so uglies will contribute to the group collective without caring about how much life has screwed them over.

 

[ihaveno1]

hs college dating apps blackpilled me b4 i even knew what the term "incel" even was

 

[Mainländer]

No. I always knew looks mattered as a male but not to such an immense extent. I also couldn't correctly tell a truly attractive guy from a normal one before receiving the looks blackpill from @FACEandLMS .

I thought being good-looking as a male was basically having nice smooth hair and no major defects in one's face, I was oblivious to things like squarish jawlines and skulls.

I did the usual bluepill - redpill - blackpill trajectory.

 

[BlackPillJesus]

I started to research on looks on my own before reading anything on the internet about halo effect or shit. In my life, there was one point in which suddenly everyone started treting me better (I upped 2 points, from 3 to 5), caught me with surprise because my attitude was the same (and I thought it was about attitude). Then I casually found some old pic album and saw how different I looked and something clicked. Then I started looking information about what makes a guy better looking, and it coincided with the changes in the pics. So I started browsing forums like plastic surgery ones or bodybuilding, and looking for other people experiencing looks changes in some mainstream forums. Some time later I found about what incel, redpill and blackpill meant, and found PSLI forums and reddit subs.

Anyone of you reached the blackpill on their own instead of discovering it trough mainstream/people talking about it?

I knew about black pill LONG before it was a thing.

I figured out hyper-gamy on my own... thinking about the total reproductive/biological cost of sex for women vs men... and it was only years later that I read and confirmed this was a scientific fact, and applies to humans and all mammals on earth.

Back in the day... I joined what was called a "Layer", a secret society of men who used code names to each other who would go out and try to talk to girls in public and at clubs and exchange strategies. It was there that I met many different guys who all had many different "strategies" but because I can think for myself, and realized there was only one pattern to all of it. The good looking guys had good results (regardless of their "game"), the above average looking guys had ok results, and the average and below average looking guys had zero results. None of them believed looks had anything to do with it, so there was no chance this was a placebo effect... this is what opened my eyes the most.

Since then It's just been a matter of observing female behavior. Before "incel" there was a term called "true forced loliness", aka TFL. It was started by a hillbilly youtuber by the name of Bill122460 and two other youtubers that joined under his banner. I suspect throughout all of history there has always been a term for incels coined by incels, but normies will typically use there own terms, rather than admit he's ugly they will say he's awkward for example. It is normies who write history.

Normies have always lived in a false semantic simulacra that shields them from the harsh amoral brutality of the real world... only now with the proliferation of the internet are they using our terms, still they basterdise the meaning. To a normie, incel means a man who can't get laid because he harbors hatred for women. It's funny how far they go to twist and cherry pick reality to fit the moral narrative that helps them sleep at night.

 

[Six]

tl;dr this whole thread tl;dr