(TLDR AT THE END)
1. before I get to the actual chart I am going to briefly go over how I am going to rate different heights, almost entirely according to mathematical and demographical statistics as well as various proportional features that can make a person look shorter or taller than they are.
Standard deviation. In statistics, the standard deviation is a measure of the amount of variation of the values of a variable about its mean. Standard deviation for height is 2.96-3.04 inches for men (depending on the region), so lets just say it’s 3 inches or 7.5 centimeters. In order for someone to be considered tall, they HAVE to be 2 standard deviations above the average height.
Body proportions. Eye level, shoulder level, torso/legs, shoulder to waist ratio (bideltoid), limb length, muscle mass/body fat percentage/weight in general. These are the main parameters that determine if you are going to look your height, taller or shorter.
Exceptions: JBF, betabuxx, dark triad, very high social status, exceptionally attractive face if you are really short.
Keep in mind, irl 1 inch is not noticeable/barely noticeable, 2 inches is easily noticeable and is a solid difference, 3-3.5 inches height difference is going to make you look short compared to the taller person, 4+ inches - you are going to look like a dwarf next to them. Height difference is not linear, it is exponential.
2. chart:
*5‘7 and below — without at least a solid HTN face it is completely ovER( over in this case means you are not going to be able to get even a somewhat decent looking gf, sure you will be able to betabuxx). Please not that at these heights gymmaxxing is completely useless, in fact the excessive muscle mass is going to make you look shorter than you are due to the Square and Rectangle phenomenon, as I call it.
*5‘8 — breakpoint height for some reason. If you take a look at 5‘7 men like Tom Cruz and then at 5‘8 men like Zac effron and others you are going to see that there is sn increase in quality of proportions. Still, does not change much and it is still almost completely over without a very attractive face.
*5‘9 — this is when your proportions finally start to matter more. You no longer look like a manlet, just make sure you are not a twig, because at this height, for some reason, being a twig is going to make you look shorter than you are, I have noticed this many times. As well as extremely long legs are also going to make you shorter than you are (at this height) due to your torso and shoulder level being below the normal level. Still not NEARLY enough for a good looking gf, unless the exceptions listed above.
*5‘10 — with broad shoulders, acceptably long legs, long arms - you are going to look slightly above average if the average height in your country is ~5‘9-5‘10 (remember 1 inch is almost entirely unnoticeable). Enough for a LTB with a solid face (LOW-MID HTN+). This is the breakpoint height at which many foids consider you a man.
*5‘11 — can look solid with good proportions and slight frauding (example: the rock and vin diesel, the rock is 6‘2.5, vin is 5‘11). Overall with a good looking face and slim (but not twig) build, this height is fine for ltbs, occasionally low mtns.
*6‘0 — can look „tallish“ but just in the slightest. The actual „tallish“ height is 6‘1.25-6‘1.5. pretty much the same thing as 5‘11 but better. Still not nearly enough to „mogg“. Once again you can look solid at this height.
*6‘1 — start of tallish, probably the best height for proportions and bodybuilding. Strong 6‘1 can look pretty solid ALMOST everywhere, example - Cristiano ronaldo or Ben affleck, ja Morant.
*6‘2 — pretty solid height, Many people can say you are tall, but those are primarily boomers. Typical height foidlets settle for. With broad shoulders, aggressive masculine face, longish torso you can mogg. Honestly in the ideal world this should be the perfect male height imo
*6‘3 — good height, just like 6‘2 but a bit better. Can look lanky. Build muscle, but don’t overdo, with a solid face (HTN +) it’s should be not hard to get 4.5-5.5/10 girlfriend. At this height you are safe to seamaxx as you will height mogg the majority of other seamaxxers by at least 2 inches.
*6‘4 — in America (not 100% sure) or southern euporean countries you are tall, actually tall. The average zoomer male height there is around 5‘10 so you are 2 SD above. You can see this height being mentioned pretty often on tiktok.
*6‘5 — tall, but normally tall. Proportions are usually still there. You now mogg the vast majority of men (99+%). Some may say this is the perfect height, I believe it is not
*6‘6 — in my opinion the perfect male height in 2024. the nba mogger height. If you have long torso and broad shoulders/slim waist you are a gigamogger. In many countries this is 9+ inches above the average height which means you are going to mogg even the 6‘3-6‘4 guys which is crucial for securing that mogger status.
*6‘7 — the perfect male height in 2025. 2 meters, what else could you wish for? I mean at this point if you have an attractive face you are going to be an actual slayer if you wish to be so. Perfect.
*6‘8-6‘10 — the reason why I decided to combine these 3 height into a category is because at this point your height doesn’t matter anymore unless you wish to go for 6‘4 foids (lol). And at 6‘7+ you can look pretty damn lanky if you have long legs and there is no drastic benefit to being this tall anymore.
*6‘11+ — obviously mogger height but can look intimidating. 6‘7 is honestly better. Can nichemaxx for 6‘6 foids.
Okay finally lets discuss at what height / heights you are safe from being mogged for the most part. It is around 6‘2.5-6‘4.5. mogger height, unfortunately, is no less than 6‘4. even 6‘3 is not enough to stand out. Ideally you should be around 2.5- 3 SD above the average height, what it is you figure out for yourself because it varies.
TLDR: 6‘2+ or over unless very attractive face
@light @Dneum912 @VideoGameCoper @Cryotron @joocel52 @Grodd
1. before I get to the actual chart I am going to briefly go over how I am going to rate different heights, almost entirely according to mathematical and demographical statistics as well as various proportional features that can make a person look shorter or taller than they are.
Standard deviation. In statistics, the standard deviation is a measure of the amount of variation of the values of a variable about its mean. Standard deviation for height is 2.96-3.04 inches for men (depending on the region), so lets just say it’s 3 inches or 7.5 centimeters. In order for someone to be considered tall, they HAVE to be 2 standard deviations above the average height.
Body proportions. Eye level, shoulder level, torso/legs, shoulder to waist ratio (bideltoid), limb length, muscle mass/body fat percentage/weight in general. These are the main parameters that determine if you are going to look your height, taller or shorter.
Exceptions: JBF, betabuxx, dark triad, very high social status, exceptionally attractive face if you are really short.
Keep in mind, irl 1 inch is not noticeable/barely noticeable, 2 inches is easily noticeable and is a solid difference, 3-3.5 inches height difference is going to make you look short compared to the taller person, 4+ inches - you are going to look like a dwarf next to them. Height difference is not linear, it is exponential.
2. chart:
*5‘7 and below — without at least a solid HTN face it is completely ovER( over in this case means you are not going to be able to get even a somewhat decent looking gf, sure you will be able to betabuxx). Please not that at these heights gymmaxxing is completely useless, in fact the excessive muscle mass is going to make you look shorter than you are due to the Square and Rectangle phenomenon, as I call it.
*5‘8 — breakpoint height for some reason. If you take a look at 5‘7 men like Tom Cruz and then at 5‘8 men like Zac effron and others you are going to see that there is sn increase in quality of proportions. Still, does not change much and it is still almost completely over without a very attractive face.
*5‘9 — this is when your proportions finally start to matter more. You no longer look like a manlet, just make sure you are not a twig, because at this height, for some reason, being a twig is going to make you look shorter than you are, I have noticed this many times. As well as extremely long legs are also going to make you shorter than you are (at this height) due to your torso and shoulder level being below the normal level. Still not NEARLY enough for a good looking gf, unless the exceptions listed above.
*5‘10 — with broad shoulders, acceptably long legs, long arms - you are going to look slightly above average if the average height in your country is ~5‘9-5‘10 (remember 1 inch is almost entirely unnoticeable). Enough for a LTB with a solid face (LOW-MID HTN+). This is the breakpoint height at which many foids consider you a man.
*5‘11 — can look solid with good proportions and slight frauding (example: the rock and vin diesel, the rock is 6‘2.5, vin is 5‘11). Overall with a good looking face and slim (but not twig) build, this height is fine for ltbs, occasionally low mtns.
*6‘0 — can look „tallish“ but just in the slightest. The actual „tallish“ height is 6‘1.25-6‘1.5. pretty much the same thing as 5‘11 but better. Still not nearly enough to „mogg“. Once again you can look solid at this height.
*6‘1 — start of tallish, probably the best height for proportions and bodybuilding. Strong 6‘1 can look pretty solid ALMOST everywhere, example - Cristiano ronaldo or Ben affleck, ja Morant.
*6‘2 — pretty solid height, Many people can say you are tall, but those are primarily boomers. Typical height foidlets settle for. With broad shoulders, aggressive masculine face, longish torso you can mogg. Honestly in the ideal world this should be the perfect male height imo
*6‘3 — good height, just like 6‘2 but a bit better. Can look lanky. Build muscle, but don’t overdo, with a solid face (HTN +) it’s should be not hard to get 4.5-5.5/10 girlfriend. At this height you are safe to seamaxx as you will height mogg the majority of other seamaxxers by at least 2 inches.
*6‘4 — in America (not 100% sure) or southern euporean countries you are tall, actually tall. The average zoomer male height there is around 5‘10 so you are 2 SD above. You can see this height being mentioned pretty often on tiktok.
*6‘5 — tall, but normally tall. Proportions are usually still there. You now mogg the vast majority of men (99+%). Some may say this is the perfect height, I believe it is not
*6‘6 — in my opinion the perfect male height in 2024. the nba mogger height. If you have long torso and broad shoulders/slim waist you are a gigamogger. In many countries this is 9+ inches above the average height which means you are going to mogg even the 6‘3-6‘4 guys which is crucial for securing that mogger status.
*6‘7 — the perfect male height in 2025. 2 meters, what else could you wish for? I mean at this point if you have an attractive face you are going to be an actual slayer if you wish to be so. Perfect.
*6‘8-6‘10 — the reason why I decided to combine these 3 height into a category is because at this point your height doesn’t matter anymore unless you wish to go for 6‘4 foids (lol). And at 6‘7+ you can look pretty damn lanky if you have long legs and there is no drastic benefit to being this tall anymore.
*6‘11+ — obviously mogger height but can look intimidating. 6‘7 is honestly better. Can nichemaxx for 6‘6 foids.
Okay finally lets discuss at what height / heights you are safe from being mogged for the most part. It is around 6‘2.5-6‘4.5. mogger height, unfortunately, is no less than 6‘4. even 6‘3 is not enough to stand out. Ideally you should be around 2.5- 3 SD above the average height, what it is you figure out for yourself because it varies.
TLDR: 6‘2+ or over unless very attractive face
@light @Dneum912 @VideoGameCoper @Cryotron @joocel52 @Grodd
