Discussion Unpopular opinion: escortmaxxers are not incels.

[Deleted member 19236]

Incel = Involuntary celibate

involuntary: without choice
celibate: not engaging in or characterized by sexual intercourse

If you use prostitutes, you are not involuntary celibate.

 

[radishman]

Red pill tells us we can't be incel if we have 200 bucks. Guess only poorcels are the trucels.

 

[epillepsy]

But you always have the choice to use prostitutes, so even incels who don't use prostitutes would then be volcels.

 

[goydivision]

But you always have the choice to use prostitutes, so even incels who don't use prostitutes would then be volcels.

not really, I reside in US and whores are illegal

 

[Pengwin]

Compelling argument

 

[epillepsy]

not really, I reside in US and whores are illegal

It's not so hard to find a massage parlor that does full service. Unless it's the illegality that's stopping you.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

I think the counter is that incel is about relationships or something.

 

[goydivision]

It's not so hard to find a massage parlor that does full service. Unless it's the illegality that's stopping you.

I’m actually an illegalist and I go out of my way to shoplift and vandalize shit but I don’t want to waste money on sex. I deserve to have it without paying.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Escorts are basically expensive short-term rentals of warm pocket pussies with the bonus of possible STDs.

I don't agree with the thread.

 

[Awoo]

Red pill tells us we can't be incel if we have 200 bucks. Guess only poorcels are the trucels.

The thing is this is actually true.

Unless you are poorcel you can always do something to escape inceldom. Whether that be looksmaxx or escortmaxx. If you are poor. It's truly over.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

I’m actually an illegalist and I go out of my way to shoplift and vandalize shit but I don’t want to waste money on sex. I deserve to have it without paying.

Based and I agree.

 

[PPEcel]

But you always have the choice to use prostitutes, so even incels who don't use prostitutes would then be volcels.

Exactly.

not really, I reside in US and whores are illegal

Nothing stops you from booking a flight to Amsterdam or Kiev or Bangkok. At least before corona happened.

Escorts are basically expensive short-term rentals of warm pocket pussies with the bonus of possible STDs.

Exactly. I consider them to be living cum rags. I try my hardest not to develop an emotional connection with the escorts I visit so I don't do stupid things with my money.

 

[epillepsy]

I’m actually an illegalist and I go out of my way to shoplift and vandalize shit but I don’t want to waste money on sex. I deserve to have it without paying.

Sure. What I'm saying is that by the OP's own definition of incel, a person who doesn't use prostitutes is a volcel, unless he's too poor to afford one, regardless of its legality.
If he wanted to make the argument that an escortmaxxer is not an incel, he would have been better served to say something like "I define an incel as a virgin," which would eliminate escortmaxxers from the category of inceldom.

 

[PPEcel]

I deserve to have it without paying.

No such thing as a free lunch, even high-tier normies and Chads have to go through the whole ritual of asking a foid out, spending time on a date, paying for said date, et cetera.

Sure. What I'm saying is that by the OP's own definition of incel, a person who doesn't use prostitutes is a volcel, unless he's too poor to afford one, regardless of its legality.

If you're in your 30s or older, and you're not disabled or mentally ill, and you live in a high-income market economy with a decent social safety net, you have no excuse to not be able to afford to see one escort. If someone is in a shitty financial situation because they repeatedly make shitty decisions, they're a volcel.

 

[Deleted member 19236]

But you always have the choice to use prostitutes

Wrong, you are projecting.

Nothing stops you from booking a flight to Amsterdam or Kiev or Bangkok

Projection.

 

[PPEcel]

Projection.

How exactly am I projecting?

 

[epillepsy]

Wrong, you are projecting.


Projection.

Your original argument isn't very good. It's just the definitions of involuntary and celibate, and then you have the conclusion: escortmaxxers aren't incels. If there was a bit more meat in your "argument" then perhaps I could address it, but as it is, it's more of a baseless claim.

 

[Deleted member 19236]

How exactly am I projecting?

By saying "nothing stops you from flying to Amsterdam".
That may be true to you, but it doesnt apply to everyone here. So you are projecting your own condition to others.

Your original argument isn't very good. It's just the definitions of involuntary and celibate, and then you have the conclusion: escortmaxxers aren't incels. If there was a bit more meat in your "argument" then perhaps I could address it, but as it is, it's more of a baseless claim.

Escortmaxxers arent incel by definition, that's my point.

 

[Hell]

I hate these threads where people get wrapped up in semantics.
By this logic you can say that no one is incel because they all have the option to rape some girl.
Doesn't matter if you risk going to prison, you are still voluntarily choosing not to rape someone.

 

[UselesseatER]

Well obviously, your not celibate if your literally having sex that you paid for.
And while I have a problem with those who cry about being ugly and that females living life too easy (with which i agree) and then turn around and pay those same sluts hundreds fucking HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS to spill their cum down her filthy hole. It's hypocricy to hate women and pay them for existing at the same time .

I think the counter is that incel is about relationships or something.

Speaking for myself, i want a relationship with mutual attraction. If she doesn't want to fuck me, it's not worth it imo.

I’m actually an illegalist and I go out of my way to shoplift and vandalize shit but I don’t want to waste money on sex. I deserve to have it without paying.

I have a question to those who'd call this being a 'volcel' and not belonging here:
-are you cuckmaxxing?
-are you simping?
-are you bluepilled?
-are you a clown?
Because all the sub-8 normies i know irl who have girlfriends are at least one of those, if not all.

 

[PPEcel]

By saying "nothing stops you from flying to Amsterdam".
That may be true to you, but it doesnt apply to everyone here. So you are projecting your own condition to others.

How does it not?

What stops them from applying for a passport and saving up for a short vacation?

 

[epillepsy]

Well obviously, your not celibate if your literally having sex that you paid for.
And while I have a problem with those who cry about being ugly and that females living life too easy (with which i agree) and then turn around and pay those same sluts hundreds fucking HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS to spill their cum down her filthy hole. It's hypocricy to hate women and pay them for existing at the same time .

Speaking for myself, i want a relationship with mutual attraction. If she doesn't want to fuck me, it's not worth it imo.

I have a question to those who'd call this being a 'volcel' and not belonging here:
-are you cuckmaxxing?
-are you simping?
-are you bluepilled?
-are you a clown?
Because all the sub-8 normies i know irl who have girlfriends are at least one of those, if not all.

The point is that goydivision is NOT a volcel -- just that by OP's definition, he would have to be considered one, which is absurd.
Fucking an escort does not disqualify you from being an incel.

 

[YogiBear]

It´s illegal to sell anything without taxation.

I hope escorting is going to be banned in west.
Number of incels would start growing insanely fast.

German lawmakers demand buying sex be permanently outlawed – DW – 05/20/2020

Coronavirus has caused Germany’s brothels to close their doors, but some politicians want the ban to become permanent. "Sexual activities are not compatible with social distancing measures," they wrote to state premiers.

www.dw.com

 

[Smitty]

Kissed a girl 10 years ago: FAKECEL, GTFO, MODS MODS MODS, KHHV ONLY
Regulary fucks escorts:

 

[Deleted member 26140]

But you always have the choice to use prostitutes, so even incels who don't use prostitutes would then be volcels.

Very good counter argument

 

[Deleted member 22685]

Compelling argument

 

[goydivision]

No such thing as a free lunch, even high-tier normies and Chads have to go through the whole ritual of asking a foid out, spending time on a date, paying for said date, et cetera.

Heres the thing: Chad does all that stuff but it’s not just sex only; he also gets a status boost and also the benefit of being in a relationship. Sex alone isn’t worth the money.

 

[watcher]

I agree IF the escortcel in question is completely satisfied by experiences which are purely sexual. I think men like these are a small minority though, even some chadrones prefer to have LTRs.

 

[epillepsy]

Escortmaxxers arent incel by definition, that's my point.

You're correct that escortmaxxers aren't incel by the definition created by "involuntary" plus "celibate."
The problem is that no one is an incel by that definition, since one could always get a prostitute, or like Hell said, rape someone.
The definition of incel has to be more inclusive than the one you are working with. The word "incel" is a portmanteau of "involuntary" and "celibate," but those words are to be interpreted a little more loosely than their dictionary definitions; otherwise an "incel" would be a fantasy creature that doesn't exist.

 

[IncelKing]

if escortmaxxers aren't incels, then broke fucks (NEETs and LDAR copers) who can't afford escorts are volcels. @BlkPillPres

 

[Macrocephalus]

Never been with an escort but I don't agree.
If you think that escortcels are any different from us, you're implying that you can ascend by fucking hookers: then why don't you do that too?

 

[Deleted member 19236]

If you think that escortcels are any different from us, you're implying that you can ascend by fucking hookers: then why don't you do that too?

Multiple reasons, but if I did have sex I wouldn't consider myself incel.

 

[Tenshi]

I’m actually an illegalist and I go out of my way to shoplift and vandalize shit but I don’t want to waste money on sex. I deserve to have it without paying.

then you're a volcel according to op

low IQ thread tbh

 

[Deleted member 22999]

I disagree, inceldom is when you can’t get unpaid sexual relations (in b4 all relationships are transactional blah blah etc, I know all that but you know what I’m trying to say)

 

[Neggr]

I think the counter is that incel is about relationships or something.

 

[MaxZM98]

are you voluntarily not seeing escorts?

 

[Deleted member 19236]

are you voluntarily not seeing escorts?

No, I would if I could

 

[Deleted member 26660]

Incel = Involuntary celibate

involuntary: without choice
celibate: not engaging in or characterized by sexual intercourse

If you use prostitutes, you are not involuntary celibate.

Escortmaxxers are incels, because they are still subject to the side effects of inceldom i.e. ugliness, having no friends, social ostricization etc.

 

[Deleted member 19236]

Escortmaxxers are incels, because they are still subject to the side effects of inceldom i.e. ugliness, having no friends, social ostricization etc.

And liking transsexuals isn’t gay, amirite GrAYcel?

 

[LeFrenchCel]

You're an incel if you can't have sex for free
If you have to pay to get laid you're still an incel

 

[Deleted member 19236]

You're an incel if you can't have sex for free
If you have to pay to get laid you're still an incel

Not at all. How can one be celibate and a sex haver at the same time?

 

[Deleted member 18193]

I hate these threads where people get wrapped up in semantics.
By this logic you can say that no one is incel because they all have the option to rape some girl.
Doesn't matter if you risk going to prison, you are still voluntarily choosing not to rape someone.

Not at all. How can one be celibate and a sex haver at the same time?

Would you prefer the site to be renamed subhumans.co?

 

[TheProphetMuscle]

not really, I reside in US and whores are illegal

I live in US and found one

 

[ShiiOfTheSPLC]

so anyone who lives in a country with legal prostitution is volcel?

 

[Looksmaxxcel]

Incel = Involuntary celibate

involuntary: without choice
celibate: not engaging in or characterized by sexual intercourse

If you use prostitutes, you are not involuntary celibate.

Hold on, so if I go ahead and buy an escort, then I'm technically no longer incel? Do I have to leave?

 

[Deleted member 19236]

Hold on, so if I go ahead and buy an escort, then I'm technically no longer incel? Do I have to leave?

You are no longer incel, but you don’t need to quit the forum as it has many users who escortmax and (apparently) the mods don’t care.

 

[Looksmaxxcel]

You are no longer incel, but you don’t need to quit the forum as it has many users who escortmax and (apparently) the mods don’t care.

Well, I don't wanna leave because I'll miss my incel brethren. But I'll respectfully leave if I really don't belong here.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

You are no longer incel, but you don’t need to quit the forum as it has many users who escortmax and (apparently) the mods don’t care.

You are using the literal definition of incel which isnt useful. Imo paid sex doesnt count.

 

[Deleted member 14805]

You're an incel if you can't have sex for free
If you have to pay to get laid you're still an incel

 

[Deleted member 21219]

so anyone who lives in a country with legal prostitution is volcel?

By his definition, anyone who has enough money to fuck escorts in their own country or can afford to travel to fuck hookers is a volcel. This forum would then be a place for the poorest of the poor only.