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Even AM deserved it more
Discussion Unpopular opinion: ER is overrated and shouldn’t be praised here too much
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Agreed. Ethan Crumbley and others like Cho were much more aligned with "killing as many foids and Chads as possible." Not condoning their acts, just saying. At least root for someone that actually did a good job.
Agreed, Ethan Crumbley was a far better ER then ER was but ER still only gets remembered because he was the first mainstream incel mass shooter. Cho was also great
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Not really unpopular tbh, a lot of people here have said the same shit and frankly his reputation is rather mixed.
Although I remember reading that the judge in his case found that he wasn't really an incel ideologically and just was using the label for attention. So im not sure if he should even be considered better than ER, aside from kill count.
Alek Minassian, the Canadian van of peace driver.
Although I remember reading that the judge in his case found that he wasn't really an incel ideologically and just was using the label for attention. So im not sure if he should even be considered better than ER, aside from kill count.
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Alek Minassian
Elliot did a better job because of his manifesto and his persona in the videos. He left a stronger lasting impact, he became a "cult of personality". That's way more important than killing a few dozen random people in a country with a population of hundreds of millions. Your "high score" is peanuts in comparison to the population size.
Also if you look it up, you'll see that the rates of mass shootings went up AFTER 2014 (after his mass shooting). That was the long lasting impact of his "persona" and manifesto.
His impact was just more significant than those other guys.
AM ironically quoted Elliot Rodger in a post of his. Elliot's actions have gone on to inspire other mass shooters.
I made a thread explaining exactly why Elliot gets celebrated so much over other mass shooters:
Here's Why Elliot Rodger Is Celebrated By Incels Over Others Who More Appropriately Fit The Label
I think many people misunderstand why Elliot is celebrated, often saying he was volcel and there were better individuals that deserve "saint hood", well I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally it had to do with 3 things 1. Time - He just did his stuff in the right era, the media often...
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Still better than killing Ricemen incels. Even SR would have done it better if he wasn’t a dumbcel and going for kids this motherfucker had so much potentialNot really unpopular tbh, a lot of people here have said the same shit and frankly his reputation is rather mixed.
Alek Minassian, the Canadian van of peace driver.
Although I remember reading that the judge in his case found that he wasn't really an incel ideologically and just was using the label for attention. So im not sure if he should even be considered better than ER, aside from kill count.
Elliot exceeded his potential where it matters. Let's say he had gotten a kill count of 100 people but he DIDN'T write the manifesto and he DIDN'T make the videos he made that went viral, do you honestly think he would have made the impact he did?
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Ok that’s true I admit his videos were cool and funny but that’s itElliot did a better job because of his manifesto and his persona in the videos. He left a stronger lasting impact, he became a "cult of personality". That's way more important than killing a few dozen random people in a country with a population of hundreds of millions. Your "high score" is peanuts in comparison to the population size.
Also if you look it up, you'll see that the rates of mass shootings went up AFTER 2014 (after his mass shooting). That was the long lasting impact of his "persona" and manifesto.
His impact was just more significant than those other guys.
AM ironically quoted Elliot Rodger in a post of his. Elliot's actions have gone on to inspire other mass shooters.
I made a thread explaining exactly why Elliot gets celebrated so much over other mass shooters:
Here's Why Elliot Rodger Is Celebrated By Incels Over Others Who More Appropriately Fit The Label
I think many people misunderstand why Elliot is celebrated, often saying he was volcel and there were better individuals that deserve "saint hood", well I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally it had to do with 3 things 1. Time - He just did his stuff in the right era, the media often...
Elliot was more than a body count, he was a prophet.
His words allow us to take a good look at his inner self. In a way, reading his manifesto is reading his autobiography, that's what makes him so special.
He had a lot of videos talking and expressing himself.
There might be another like ER in the future, but he will just be a copycat.
Just be first theory is legit.
His words allow us to take a good look at his inner self. In a way, reading his manifesto is reading his autobiography, that's what makes him so special.
He had a lot of videos talking and expressing himself.
There might be another like ER in the future, but he will just be a copycat.
Just be first theory is legit.
Cho was quite honorable.
its marc lepine or whatever tf
agreed with all of thisElliot did a better job because of his manifesto and his persona in the videos. He left a stronger lasting impact, he became a "cult of personality". That's way more important than killing a few dozen random people in a country with a population of hundreds of millions. Your "high score" is peanuts in comparison to the population size.
Also if you look it up, you'll see that the rates of mass shootings went up AFTER 2014 (after his mass shooting). That was the long lasting impact of his "persona" and manifesto.
His impact was just more significant than those other guys.
AM ironically quoted Elliot Rodger in a post of his. Elliot's actions have gone on to inspire other mass shooters.
I made a thread explaining exactly why Elliot gets celebrated so much over other mass shooters:
Here's Why Elliot Rodger Is Celebrated By Incels Over Others Who More Appropriately Fit The Label
I think many people misunderstand why Elliot is celebrated, often saying he was volcel and there were better individuals that deserve "saint hood", well I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally it had to do with 3 things 1. Time - He just did his stuff in the right era, the media often...
Inceldom isn't about mass shooting after all.
Take St. BlackOps2Cel, for instance. He's never killed anyone. I think he has a very good personality. But he's just ugly. He's a true incel just like me. I sympathize with him way more.
Take St. BlackOps2Cel, for instance. He's never killed anyone. I think he has a very good personality. But he's just ugly. He's a true incel just like me. I sympathize with him way more.
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That’s also true. Always when I see ugly people outside I sympathize with them automatically like they are my brothersInceldom isn't about mass shooting after all.
Take St. BlackOps2Cel, for instance. He's never killed anyone. I think he has a very good personality. But he's just ugly. He's a true incel just like me. I sympathize with him way more.
Same.
Same, I just feel so bad. I swear sometimes we just give eachother "a look" and we both know what's up
. It's like some kind of shared incel "wavelength" of misery and rejection.It's probably why I like being inside so much, less exposure to the black pill. I've already accepted it, no need to torture myself with it.
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Strong agree. I'm not aware of any mass shooters that were really part of the community anyways. I think the angle is played up something fierce. Consider the following:Inceldom isn't about mass shooting after all.
Take St. BlackOps2Cel, for instance. He's never killed anyone. I think he has a very good personality. But he's just ugly. He's a true incel just like me. I sympathize with him way more.
- Society already has preconceived notions that men who fail to achieve masculinity (i.e., become a patriarch) are inherently dangerous, that's existed for many decades, and likely centuries or milennia.
- Violent losers need some sort of moral pretext to justify their actions in their own minds. Relatability is key, and violent losers tend to not be attractive to women until after they've committed their act.
- The incel community itself offers space for people to vent, and to contextualize their experiences, both of which have a calming/cooling effect and reduce our anxiety and fear regarding our lives, even if there is no material benefit
But, I will admit - the media blaming us does at least give us some visibility, some spotlight. If the media didn't blame us, we would be almost completely invisible to the rest of the world. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing, but there you have it.
Anyone with a high score of 0 (all of incels.is) doesn't have the right to criticize ER for having a low high score
True. It took balls to do what he did. He must of been truly hurting bad inside to get to the point of going on a rampage. Stabbing 3 roommates 164 times is brootal. After he finished stabbing his roommates he went to Starbucks to get his last latte lol
because of his day of retribution video. have you not seen it? he speaks glorious words that i cheer to and scream "YES!!" when I hear. they are truly the gospel he speaks in that video
The manifesto was self-aggrandizing bullshit, so much so that there wasn't even an angle for normies to strawman him. He never called attention to lookism or the greater struggle of ugly men or hapacels like himself. it was all about him and how he was the biggest victim on earth that he couldn't pull a 10/10 stacy
It was a purely selfish chimpout
Still doesn't change the impact it had and the awareness it spread.
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Crumbley's manifesto was just a bunch of white suprem copypasta without ever actually connecting to any to lookism or heightism. atleast ER had the idea just fumbled the execution
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