Theory Ugliness is the presence of the "unnecessary"

[Drakul]

Because we identify as healthy and functional that which works perfectly without added futility that has no reason to exist. If your face has things you could do without and keep functioning perfectly it means the surplus is "wrong". An abomination like having 3 hands. Beautiful people have what's barely necessary to be alive and nothing more. There's absolutely no need or function for things such as:

- facial asymmetry
-nasolabial folds
-saggy skin
-big eyes
-longer/bigger nose
-bigger/weirder lips
-overly long necks
-longer than necessary midface
-eyelid exposure


Actually it's not beautiful vs ugly but what foids' brain deem unnecessary that creates the " ewwww why is that face shaped like that"

The more unnecessary stuff there's in your face the more over it is.

Pictures explain it better

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

by this logic recessed jaws would be desired

 

[Drakul]

by this logic recessed jaws would be desired

No cause you need to masticate raw meat irl so your bite needs power. A defined big jaw is necessary to eat smoothly hence it's still functionality. If anything a recessed jaw is something "not needed".

 

[Newton the 2nd]

Hypergamy, just like obesity, is simply a sign of foids having too much to eat

 

[soul contre tous]

If what's selected against would be truly unneccessary, fisherian runaways and comically enlarged male ornaments wouldn't be a thing.

 

[Drakul]

If what's selected against would be truly unneccessary, fisherian runaways and comically enlarged male ornaments wouldn't be a thing.

We're talking about humans and afaik no fisherian runaway is present. If anything we have the opposite issue ie women mating with weak minimalist looking guys to not risk anomalies with big weird ogres like Lesnar.

Also fisherian runaway in animals has a function to signal power regardless the handicap

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.1987.0038

But we're talking about humans

 

[soul contre tous]

No cause you need to masticate raw meat irl so your bite needs power. A defined big jaw is necessary to eat smoothly hence it's still functionality. If anything a recessed jaw is something "not needed".

The human chin and mandible is not enlarged because it increases bite force.
All humanoids before the cro-magnon-man had severely "recessed", downward grown jaws, and a way longer midface, and they could bite way harder than homo sapiens sapiens.

A recessed jaw with an overbite is primarily a selective disadvantage because it causes blocked airways and sleep apnea.
A short mandible is a selective disadvantage because maxillofacial forward growth, a compact midface, deep set eyes and height are the primary human ornaments, signalling high genetic mutability and disadvantageous hormone levels.

All animals except for humans and elephants are recessed chincels and they do just fine.

 

[soul contre tous]

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.1987.0038

The conditions required are (a) that the fitness effects of the handicap and ‘viability’ genes combine non-multiplicatively (Zahavi’s handicap), and/or (b) that the handicap should directly reveal the presence or absence of genes for high viability (the revealing handicap).

Is this really the case in humans?
Does being tall, dark and handsome really make you objectively able to survive better beyond a certain threshold, that is surely lower that the ridiculous female standards nowadays?

 

[Drakul]

The human chin and mandible is not enlarged because it increases bite force.
All humanoids before the cro-magnon-man had severely "recessed", downward grown jaws, and a way longer midface, and they could bite way harder than homo sapiens sapiens.

A recessed jaw with an overbite is primarily a selective disadvantage because it causes blocked airways and sleep apnea.
A short mandible is a selective disadvantage because maxillofacial forward growth, a compact midface, deep set eyes and height are the primary human ornaments.

Cope

If being a birdcel is so beneficial why birds have no teeth? All animals that masticate without ruminating have Chad jaws. Just accept your face is a bunch of non necessary shit and jump from a cliff (maybe being a birdcel you'll fly who knows).

Anyways other adjacent theories corroborating my thesis

Averageness - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Koinophilia - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Drakul]

Is this really the case in humans?
Does being tall, dark and handsome really make you objectively able to survive better beyond a certain threshold, that is surely lower that the ridiculous female standards nowadays?

No but having anything more than necessary may signal genetic malfunctions. Look at men women simp for or models, they have very stylized minimalistic faces, there's what it has to be there and nothing more.

 

[soul contre tous]

All animals that masticate without ruminating have Chad jaws.

 

[Drakul]

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Bears have Chad jaws, pigs just eat everything so meat isn't necessary and that cute thing certainly has not our necessities regarding food. Foids have high standards since millennia but previous generations weren't so cucked to make them express their "opinions".

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

No cause you need to masticate raw meat irl so your bite needs power. A defined big jaw is necessary to eat smoothly hence it's still functionality. If anything a recessed jaw is something "not needed".

Cope, humans don’t eat raw meat. Your explanation makes no sense.

 

[soul contre tous]

Look at men women simp for or models, they have very stylized minimalistic faces, there's what it has to be there and nothing more.

They don't have minimalistic faces, they have average, harmonious, symmetrical faces that signal low mutational load.
There is a lot of unneccessary shit foids are attracted to, for example the perfect male height for woman is ~6'6''.

Our conversation doesn't matter anyway,
since if toilets perceive you as UntERmensch, you are UntERmensch.

pigs just eat everything so meat isn't necessary

humans too.

 

[Drakul]

They don't have minimalistic faces, they have average, harmonious, symmetrical faces that signal low mutational load.
There is a lot of unneccessary shit foids are attracted to, for example the perfect male height for woman is ~6'6''.

Our conversation doesn't matter anyway,
since if toilets perceive you as UntERmensch, you are UntERmensch.

humans too.

Height is overrated and mostly claimed to bash men. Actually 6'6" is not preferred to more proportioned and functional heights that's why male models are on average 6'1" and not fucking giraffes.

 

[soul contre tous]

that cute thing

That's a ferret.
Ferrets are weasels.
They have better problem solving skills than both cats and dogs btw.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x2g2wqCXZaI?feature=share

 

[soul contre tous]

Height is overrated and mostly claimed to bash men.

Height (plus probably surgery) saved Andrew Tate from rotting on incels.is jfl

But face >>> height, i agree

 

[Drakul]

Sure, but we live in a civilization. Women cannot simply genocide 80% of the male population and get away with it. The vast majority of men that sustain civilization are not highly attractive. Without them, the whole structure would collapse.

Plus, although some physical traits mattered a lot in the past, they serve close to no purpose nowadays. Why do women need extremely tall men? These men are heavier and thus need more nutrients to function, which leads to a massive resource drain.

A sharp jaw is not an indication of good character. Most inventors and discoverers were mediocre or below average in looks. So we need a society that is less based on looks and more based on actions. We could invest in technologies that would remove baldness from the gene pool or stave off physical decline so everyone looked good for a longer period, but the main focus should be on character, intelligence, and values, not superficial things like looks.

I'm just stating what's perceived as "ewww". If it was for me I'd throw Stacy in a cage with 10 5'2" balding Indian janitors after 6 months of nofap.

 

[soul contre tous]

A sharp jaw is not an indication of good character.

Your jaw is your character.

Most inventors and discoverers were mediocre or below average in looks.

Nature doesn't care about inventors.
They are rotting in their graves as forgotten genetic dead ends, not being able to fullfill their biological imperative in their lifetime.
Meanwhile some random 90 IQ instagram chad has more friends, women, respect, happyness, fullfillment, and most notably offspring a than all inventors in history combined.

Are you even blackpilled, bro?