UAE and the RSF are great examples of what Arabs are like without Islam

[Pikacel]

RSF: Animals who just kill rape loot and plunder. Incapable of building a civilisation, can only steal. Ibn Khaldun spoke of this

UAE: Sexual degenerates who let camels and BBCs fuck their women, zero morality or dignity whatsoever, will happily suck Jew cock to fill their pockets. Obese as well

Either they’re plundering animalistic savages or corrupted obese cucks. Islam utilises their good traits (desert hardiness) to turn them into the best people

 

[Undervalued]

You need to stop coping with Islam. It's destructive. Virtually every Middle Eastern religious minority does better than the majority.

Islam probably cost MENAs a few IQ points between the massive slave trade and centuries of polygamy.

 

[SilentShadow]

What is RSF?

 

[Pikacel]

You need to stop coping with Islam. It's destructive. Virtually every Middle Eastern religious minority does better than the majority.

Islam probably cost MENAs a few IQ points between the massive slave trade and centuries of polygamy.

Minorities usually do better than the masses. They have more cohesion so nepotism can be established. Jews are best at this. Even Indians are fomenting networks + favouritism in Western countres and earn more on avg, doesn’t make them better than whites.

Also statistics play into it, a majority will always look average since it includes the poor and destitute of the country. While a minority could just be 99% mediocre people with a couple elites and end up looking better as a result

Slave trade and polygamy existed in the East/NA since ancient times Tho

 

[Sir Waco]

What is RSF?

rapid sappart forces

 

[Sir Waco]

the downfall of UAE is gonna be something else

 

[Pikacel]

the downfall of UAE is gonna be something else

Civil war to fend off OMF (Obese MacDonalds Forces)

 

[Sir Waco]

Civil war to fend off OMF (Obese MacDonalds Forces)
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i think its just gonna be saudis turning emirati rulers against eachother, maybe some kike airstrikes here and there because it was promised to them 3000000 years ago
500kg fatass emirati sultan ackmen niggerharad using his vast currycel army against the poop fetishist sultan mehmed of dubai with his filipino bugatti cavalry (they'll run out of gas in 1 day)

 

[Blackpill Monk]

Islam is an Arab Supremacist cult. Many normies only believe that Islam hates only non-Muslims, but in reality it hates non-Arabs, it wants non-Arabs to be slaves of Arabs

 

[Undervalued]

Minorities usually do better than the masses. They have more cohesion so nepotism can be established. Jews are best at this. Even Indians are fomenting networks + favouritism in Western countres and earn more on avg, doesn’t make them better than whites.

Wrong. The Jewish advantage is not due to in-group bias.

Regarding Indians, quantity has its own quality. Sure, they have problems, but selected Indians are the intellectual equals of Whites.

Slave trade and polygamy existed in the East/NA since ancient times Tho

Holy cope. Islam made both more common.

There are now big genetic differences between the descendants of Muslim slaveowners and religious minorities who were not allowed to hold slaves.

 

[GobidMujahid]

You need to stop coping with Islam. It's destructive. Virtually every Middle Eastern religious minority does better than the majority.

Islam probably cost MENAs a few IQ points between the massive slave trade and centuries of polygamy.

Source?

Polygamy is not as common as you think it is in MENA.

In the Middle East-North Africa region, polygamy is legal in Iraq, Yemen, Algeria and Egypt, but fewer than 3% of individuals in those countries live in polygamous households. (Polygamy is also legal in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and most other countries in the Middle East and North Africa, but data is not available on household composition and religion outside of the eight countries covered in this report.) In Asia, this arrangement is both allowed and rare in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Iran and Afghanistan. In India, polygamy is legal only for Muslims, but a fraction of 1% of Indian Muslims – no more than any other religious group – live in polygamous homes.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/12/12/household-patterns-by-region/

Holy cope. Islam made both more common.

No, it didn't.

If anything, Islam instated a 4 wives limit that did not exist in Jahiliyyah.

Islam also narrowed the pool of enslavable populations.

 

[GobidMujahid]

Slave trade and polygamy existed in the East/NA since ancient times Tho

 

[GobidMujahid]

There are now big genetic differences between the descendants of Muslim slaveowners and religious minorities who were not allowed to hold slaves.

Where and source?

I can see this happening in sub-Saharan Africa and some adjacent regions, but you can't extrapolate that to the whole MENA.

 

[GobidMujahid]

UAE: Sexual degenerates who let camels and BBCs fuck their women, zero morality or dignity whatsoever, will happily suck Jew cock to fill their pockets. Obese as well

It was narrated that 'Umar said: "We were sitting with the Prophet (ﷺ) when a man came to him whose clothes were intensely white and whose hair was intensely black; no signs of travel could be seen upon him, and none of us recognized him. He sat down facing the Prophet (ﷺ), with his knees touching his, and he put his hands on his thighs, and said: 'O Muhammad, what is Islam?' He said: 'To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and that I am the Messenger of Allah, to establish regular prayer, to pay Zakat, to fast in Ramadan, and to perform Hajj to the House (the Ka'bah).' He said: 'You have spoken the truth.' We were amazed by him: He asked a question, then told him that he had spoken the truth. Then he said: 'O Muhammad, what is Iman faith? He said: 'To believe in Allah, His angels, His Messengers, His books, the Last day, and the Divine Decree (Qadar), both the good of it and the bad of it.' He said' You have spoken the truth.' We were amazed by him. He asked a question, then told him that he had spoken the truth. Then he said: 'O Muhammad, what is Ihsan (right action, goodness, sincerity)? He said: 'To worship Allah as if you see Him, for even though you do not see Him, He sees you.' He asked: "When will the Hour be?' He said: 'The one who is being asked about it does not know more than the one who is asking.' He asked: 'Then what are its signs?' he said: 'When the slave woman gives birth to her mistress' (Waki' said: This means when non-Arabs will give birth to Arabs") 'and when you see barefoot, naked, destitute shepherds competing in constructing tall buildings.' The Prophet (ﷺ) met me three days later and asked me: 'Do you know who that man was? I said" 'Allah and his Messenger know best.' He said: 'That was Jibril, who came to you to teach you your religion.'"

Sunan Ibn Majah 63

 

[GobidMujahid]

Civil war to fend off OMF (Obese MacDonalds Forces)
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i think its just gonna be saudis turning emirati rulers against eachother, maybe some kike airstrikes here and there because it was promised to them 3000000 years ago
500kg fatass emirati sultan ackmen niggerharad using his vast currycel army against the poop fetishist sultan mehmed of dubai with his filipino bugatti cavalry (they'll run out of gas in 1 day)

O Prophet! Motivate the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast among you, they will overcome two hundred. And if there are one hundred of you, they will overcome one thousand of the disbelievers, for they are a people who do not comprehend.

Surah Al-Anfal 65

 

[GobidMujahid]

@Pikacel It is paradoxical how the disbelievers criticize Islam for alleged Arab supremacy, yet denigrate our races while doing so.

 

[Pikacel]

Wrong. The Jewish advantage is not due to in-group bias.

Regarding Indians, quantity has its own quality. Sure, they have problems, but selected Indians are the intellectual equals of Whites.

Holy cope. Islam made both more common.

There are now big genetic differences between the descendants of Muslim slaveowners and religious minorities who were not allowed to hold slaves.

Slavery was already widely practiced before Islam, all it did was restrict slavery to disbelievers and POWs (compared to pretty much any neighbouring tribe in the past). Slavery is ubiquitous and easy money, people will always try to take and sell slaves in spite of religion

Polygamy is a cultural phenomenon as much as anything tbh. Plus non-Muslims still practice polygamy through remarrying, or adultery.

A Western male impregnating his mistress like every capable man did is basically the same thing as impregnating a second wife. Likewise I doubt most poor males have the resources practice polygamy but then it depends on culture more than religion

I disagree with race = IQ for the most part

 

[TooSomething]

Islam is an Arab Supremacist cult. Many normies only believe that Islam hates only non-Muslims, but in reality it hates non-Arabs, it wants non-Arabs to be slaves of Arabs

It is correct that Arabs still consider slavery to be normal. LOL

 

[AsiaCel]

Semitic moment

 

[Pikacel]

Wrong. The Jewish advantage is not due to in-group bias.

Regarding Indians, quantity has its own quality. Sure, they have problems, but selected Indians are the intellectual equals of Whites.

They will share wealth with each other and pool their finances in projects/businesses. Muslim Somalis, Arabs, Indians etc have done this across Sub-Saharan Africa so it can’t be solely due to religion.

There r so many instances of a minority group being wealthier and resented by the majority. Group cohesion against a majority where you don’t fit in is water

 

[Barlog]

For some reason every Muslim is a bad example of Islam

 

[Sir Waco]

For some reason every Muslim is a bad example of Islam

 

[Undervalued]

Slavery was already widely practiced before Islam, all it did was restrict slavery to disbelievers and POWs (compared to pretty much any neighbouring tribe in the past). Slavery is ubiquitous and easy money, people will always try to take and sell slaves in spite of religion

Red is SSA. This African admixture is clearly due to the massive Islamic slave trade. Look at the big difference between Tunisian and Tunisian Jew.

Polygamy is a cultural phenomenon as much as anything tbh. Plus non-Muslims still practice polygamy through remarrying, or adultery.

A Western male impregnating his mistress like every capable man did is basically the same thing as impregnating a second wife. Likewise I doubt most poor males have the resources practice polygamy but then it depends on culture more than religion

Extremely rare. Literally peaks at 7%.

Polygamy is not hard when the whole extended family is supporting you. This was never a thing in medieval Europe. Your parents would not pay for your wife, so you needed to step up and pull your own weight. Marriage was delayed until the new couple were economically self-sufficient enough to form a new nuclear family household.

Under good economic conditions, marriage becomes more frequent and earlier. Then overpopulation leads to poverty in the context of a Malthusian agrarian economy. Resulting in late marriages and population decline. The cycle repeats. The self-regulating mechanism allows for effective population control without infanticide.

I disagree with race = IQ for the most part

Monogamy is long-term eugenic. Since children are gated by marriage, and marriage gated by wealth, the rich will have children earlier (and thus have a lower generation time) and more frequently.

This selects for the traits that lead to wealth. In the context of a market economy with reputational or legal mechanisms to check fraud and scams and a state that checks crime, this means selection for high intelligence, productivity, trustworthiness, industry, thrift, low time preference, etc.

 

[Undervalued]

They will share wealth with each other and pool their finances in projects/businesses. Muslim Somalis, Arabs, Indians etc have done this across Sub-Saharan Africa so it can’t be solely due to religion.

There r so many instances of a minority group being wealthier and resented by the majority. Group cohesion against a majority where you don’t fit in is water

How do the Jews create such wealth in the first place?

Indians in the West are a highly selected group out of billions. Wrong. The Roma and African-Americans have long been criminal underclasses.

 

[GobidMujahid]

This African admixture is clearly due to the massive Islamic slave trade.

Yes, the slave trade can be attributed for much of the African admixture, but why does it have to be "Islamic"?

It is an economic phenomenon and not a religious one.

Look at the big difference between Tunisian and Tunisian Jew.

We have to consider the fact that many of the ancestors of Tunisian jews were "recent" migrants from Iberia.

Furthermore, "Tunisians" are not a genetically homogeneous group.

I doubt that the coastal and urban neighbors of the Jews had that high SSA ancestry.

The same criticism can be made regarding Ancient Egyptians as well; what was the sample size, collection method, and how do you know that it is representative of all Ancient Egyptians?

It is well known that they had Black African, e.g., Nubian subjects.

 

[Undervalued]

Yes, the slave trade can be attributed for much of the African admixture, but why does it have to be "Islamic"?

It is an economic phenomenon and not a religious one.


We have to consider the fact that many of the ancestors of Tunisian jews were "recent" migrants from Iberia.

Furthermore, "Tunisians" are not a genetically homogeneous group.

I doubt that the coastal and urban neighbors of the Jews had that high SSA ancestry.

The same criticism can be made regarding Ancient Egyptians as well; what was the sample size, collection method, and how do you know that it is representative of all Ancient Egyptians?

You don't need more samples when the result is this strong. The Druze don't have it. Yemenite Jews don't have it. None of the ancient samples have it. Only Muslims have it. What is your alternative explanation? It's clear those people were not allowed to hold slaves.

You are confusing Sephardim with the Mizrahi. The Mizrahi have never lived in Europe and are local Middle Eastern converts to Judaism.

Ancient Egyptians were the ancestors of Copts and Muslim Egyptians. They were fully Middle Eastern.

 

[GobidMujahid]

Only Muslims have it.

Not all of them have it; you didn't say anything about the genetic heterogeneity of Muslims.

It's clear those people were not allowed to hold slaves.

I agree with you that slavery was a source of SSA admixture, but again, isn't this an economic/political issue and not a religious one?

It is due to political circumstance, not Islam, that Muslims have higher SSA admixture; correlation does not imply causation.

 

[GobidMujahid]

Ancient Egyptians were the ancestors of Copts and Muslim Egyptians. They were fully Middle Eastern.

Yes, but if you are going to exclude Nubians or other SSA admixed populations from "Ancient Egyptians", you have to apply the same logic to Muslim Egyptians as well.

This is why I mentioned genetic heterogeneity.

 

[Undervalued]

The same criticism can be made regarding Ancient Egyptians as well; what was the sample size, collection method, and how do you know that it is representative of all Ancient Egyptians?

It is well known that they had Black African, e.g., Nubian subjects.

This is a poor argument. Nubians were enemies of Ancient Egypt and Blacks are generally ugly. A few ancient Egyptians came and colonized Nubia and the admixture went only one way (from the ancient Egyptians into the Nubians).

Very few Nubians were admitted into ancient Egypt and that small group were low-status servants for Pharaoh.

 

[GobidMujahid]

This is a poor argument. Nubians were enemies of Ancient Egypt and Blacks are generally ugly. A few ancient Egyptians came and colonized Nubia and the admixture went only one way (from the ancient Egyptians into the Nubians).

Very few Nubians were admitted into ancient Egypt and that small group were low-status servants for Pharaoh.

Ok...

I am not going to debate you on the race issue, but why do you slander our religion?

I agree with you that slavery was a source of SSA admixture, but again, isn't this an economic/political issue and not a religious one?

It is due to political circumstance, not Islam, that Muslims have higher SSA admixture; correlation does not imply causation.

 

[Pikacel]

How do the Jews create such wealth in the first place?

Indians in the West are a highly selected group out of billions. Wrong. The Roma and African-Americans have long been criminal underclasses.

Their outcast nature in of itself made for economic opportunities. In Medieval times they could bypass Church laws through dealing usury and selling Christian slaves. They also circulated wealth within the family like the Rothschilds. Culture rewards keeping knowledge and studycelling

Yes African Americans were historically an underclass in US yet some managed to move over to Liberia and establish themselves as an elite.

Majority will always be poor. British Empire at it’s peak was insanely rich yet most English whites were struggling underclasses with many brutally exploited in factories, mines and mills. Irish peasants were starving and had nothing.

When you’re a minority with enough group cohesion this can help you end up doing better on average than the masses with no unity.

Irish Pikeys and Romas are something else, they basically live in their own mobile mini-societies. Not the same as settled minorities and merchants.

Yeah West selects for Indians from elite families but curries are known to make killings in Sub-Saharan Africa. Somalis also despite Both being Muslim shitskins just like Egyptians. So it doesn’t add up.

 

[Defetivecuckachu]

It's amazing how much horrible bloodshed the western leftie liberals will turn a blind eye to:

• when it's Africans genociding other Africans,
• and it's protected "special people" from the middle east arming them and funding them,
• and there's no obvious way of blaming Jews or Republicans for any of it.

Gretard... thoughts.

 

[Undervalued]

Their outcast nature in of itself made for economic opportunities. In Medieval times they could bypass Church laws through dealing usury and selling Christian slaves. They also circulated wealth within the family like the Rothschilds. Culture rewards keeping knowledge and studycelling

Jews were outperforming...when they were still in the Levant.

Yes African Americans were historically an underclass in US yet some managed to move over to Liberia and establish themselves as an elite.

85 IQ Blacks do well in a 75 IQ African country. Shocker. Truly mindboggling.

Majority will always be poor. British Empire at it’s peak was insanely rich yet most English whites were struggling underclasses with many brutally exploited in factories, mines and mills. Irish peasants were starving and had nothing.

Cope.

When you’re a minority with enough group cohesion this can help you end up doing better on average than the masses with no unity.

Irish Pikeys and Romas are something else, they basically live in their own mobile mini-societies. Not the same as settled minorities and merchants.

More cope. Irish Travellers are not even racially the same as the Roma. They're regular Irish people.

Yeah West selects for Indians from elite families but curries are known to make killings in Sub-Saharan Africa. Somalis also despite Both being Muslim shitskins just like Egyptians. So it doesn’t add up.

See the above.