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News U.S. Department of Justice: 16-year-old vigilante LARPs as 14-year-old foid, ensnares normie in pedophile sting operation (chat logs included)

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A picture of Zachary S. Spiegel from the trial exhibits.

Last week, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida announced:
A federal jury in Fort Pierce, Florida has found Zachary S. Spiegel, 38, of Jensen Beach, guilty of attempted online enticement of a minor. According to evidence presented at trial, for several weeks in January of this year, Spiegel communicated online and by text message with someone whom he believed was a 14-year-old girl named Shayla. In reality, “Shayla” was a fictional persona created by a 16-year-old boy who was trying to identify child predators in the area.

U.S. District Judge Paul C. Huck will sentence Spiegel on May 23, at 9:30 a.m. Spiegel faces 10 years to life in federal prison.

It's unusual for a vigilante sting operation to end up in federal court—much less one run by a 16-year-old boy. The 16-year-old's identity is undisclosed; however, the chat logs and other trial exhibits were recently made publicly accessible by the U.S. Attorney's Office.

In January 2022, two 16-year-olds approached a Fort Pierce Police Department officer to let him know that one of them had LARPed as a 14-year-old girl named "Shayla", and that 38-year-old Spiegel was coming to meet them for sexual purposes. Law enforcement, with the permission of the 16-year-old's parents, then assumed the identity of "Shayla". Spiegel was then arrested.

"Shayla" first informed Spiegel of "her" age.

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Of course, the moment Spiegel sees a picture of the purported 14-year-old foidlet, he starts thinking with his dick and not his brain:
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You can read the relevant affidavit from a Homeland Security Investigations agent and the entirety of the chat log here:



Spiegel, who is the father of two young children (*cough personality detector cough*), now faces a statutory maximum of life imprisonment. :feelshaha:

@RoastieBeef @Wizard32
 
you said 10 years in prison for this?? :dafuckfeels::dafuckfeels:
 
I don't know who I want to punch more. The 16 year old or the law system
 
WHY YOU JUST POST ABOUT U.S CASES? DON'T YOU LIVE IN THE UK?
 
While he has to jerk off and get rejected all the time by the "queens" he so much adores :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
maybe he ask them the permission to jerk off thinking on them cuz without permission is a "rape at distance" :feelskek::feelskek:
 
WHY YOU JUST POST ABOUT U.S CASES? DON'T YOU LIVE IN THE UK?

Because of the First Amendment, the U.S. leaves A LOT of legal documents up for public disclosure, more than any other English-speaking country. And it's the details that are interesting. Stuff that normie news outlets won't go into, like Fourth Amendment issues in child pornography cases or whatnot.

I've covered U.K. and Canadian cases in the past, but when it comes to sex crimes, simply can't do so without the level of detail that I can do with U.S. cases, particularly those at the federal level or in Florida. Whatever you read on the BBC or the Daily Mail is almost all the information you can get from open source materials.

Also the U.S. has a bigger population so naturally there are more degenerates there.
 
Because of the First Amendment, the U.S. leaves A LOT of legal documents up for public disclosure, more than any other English-speaking country. And it's the details that are interesting. Stuff that normie news outlets won't go into, like Fourth Amendment issues in child pornography cases or whatnot.

I've covered U.K. and Canadian cases in the past, but when it comes to sex crimes, simply can't do so without the level of detail that I can do with U.S. cases, particularly those at the federal level or in Florida. Whatever you read on the BBC or the Daily Mail is almost all the information you can get from open source materials.

Also the U.S. has a bigger population so naturally there are more degenerates there.
FAIR ENOUGH, DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT
 
"Shayla" first informed Spiegel of "her" age.
Of course, the moment Spiegel sees a picture of the purported 14-year-old foidlet, he starts thinking with his dick and not his brain:
You can read the relevant affidavit from a Homeland Security Investigations agent and the entirety of the chat log
@Wizard32
What strikes me strange about these pics of the chat logs is there's no date/time next to them it's just names.

It also makes me wonder if they omitted parts like what if 16yo boy LARPing as "Shayla" said something like "I was lying earlier when I said I'm 14, I'm actually 18 but like to pretend I'm younger, please do erotic RP with me"

Isn't it possible to delete specific messages in an ongoing log like that?

Even if this hadn't been doctored though, I'm really not seeing 'enticement' at all here.

He merely said "would have been fun to finger you" and asked "what if I actually will do it?"

Stuff like "you gonna slde that tight little pussy down on my thick cock" does not specify WHEN he is saying "she" should do this.

He might, for example, be intending that as something they will do in 3 years time when "she" is 17 years old and would be legal.

Basically going by imgur.com/a/Ml8CByG numbers 1-8 are fine in terms of enticement (no meeting is scheduled) though it might fall under some other crime to talk sexually like this with an alleged minor.

Number 9 is probably some charge like "sending porn to an alleged minor" I guess? Not sure the technical terms, would need to refer Floridian law. Ideally reporters talking about shit shit should include statue numbers in their articles to make reviewing this shit easier, they rarely seem to.

IMO the "text you when I get there" stuff from 9 and 10 is bullshit because you could just lie about meeting up to keep a conversation going and trying to get her to send pics of herself.

his entire thing was an erotic RP, you basically can't take the shit he's talking about seriously because he's doing an imaginary scenario like "you'll ride my penis in the theater" even though he had already established she should enjoy the movie alone and he wouldn't be showing up

#12 sounds like he was making up some excuse for why he couldn't show up, unless he actually was pulled over by police in response to the boys contacting the FPPD cruiser parked at Sabal Palms? It doesn't explain whether that US1 pullover was verified AFAIK

If there wasn't any actual pullover (ie maybe this guy never even got in the car at all) then it only supports the idea he wasn't wanting to actually meet up with this girl.

I don't think #14 matters either because all he is said is "maybe" which is not concrete plans. Just like "hey maybe we could rob a bank" isn't enough to arrest someone for attempted robbery.

#15 is also a 'maybe', and you can see on page 7 of 9 that he backs out again, and the law enforcement officer (who had taken over for the teen boy at this point) continues enticing/entrapping him by insulting him for backing down

#19 shows that since Jan 11th there was an entire week of no-contact from Zach Spiegel when law enforcement harasses him again on Jan 18th trying to entrap him once more.

#21 (from end of 8of9 to start of 9of9) seems to be the key to the charge. Here he says "maybe we can meet up and JUST CHAT"

"If we end up fooling around in my car, then okay" is too vague to be meaningful.

As far as the following "how bad do you want?" that is not "I will let you suck my cock" it is just asking about her desire for something he already stated he would not do until she was older.

#22 is similarly only asking what she wants, not stating he would actually perform the cunnilingus or fingering in that situation.

So yeah, IMO this is not "attempted online enticement" because it is far too vague. That shit should be thrown out, and h should only be charged w/ lesser crimes related to sending "her" dick pics.
 
What strikes me strange about these pics of the chat logs is there's no date/time next to them it's just names.

It also makes me wonder if they omitted parts like what if 16yo boy LARPing as "Shayla" said something like "I was lying earlier when I said I'm 14, I'm actually 18 but like to pretend I'm younger, please do erotic RP with me"

Isn't it possible to delete specific messages in an ongoing log like that?

Even if this hadn't been doctored though, I'm really not seeing 'enticement' at all here.

He merely said "would have been fun to finger you" and asked "what if I actually will do it?"

Stuff like "you gonna slde that tight little pussy down on my thick cock" does not specify WHEN he is saying "she" should do this.

He might, for example, be intending that as something they will do in 3 years time when "she" is 17 years old and would be legal.

Basically going by imgur.com/a/Ml8CByG numbers 1-8 are fine in terms of enticement (no meeting is scheduled) though it might fall under some other crime to talk sexually like this with an alleged minor.

Number 9 is probably some charge like "sending porn to an alleged minor" I guess? Not sure the technical terms, would need to refer Floridian law. Ideally reporters talking about shit shit should include statue numbers in their articles to make reviewing this shit easier, they rarely seem to.

IMO the "text you when I get there" stuff from 9 and 10 is bullshit because you could just lie about meeting up to keep a conversation going and trying to get her to send pics of herself.

his entire thing was an erotic RP, you basically can't take the shit he's talking about seriously because he's doing an imaginary scenario like "you'll ride my penis in the theater" even though he had already established she should enjoy the movie alone and he wouldn't be showing up

#12 sounds like he was making up some excuse for why he couldn't show up, unless he actually was pulled over by police in response to the boys contacting the FPPD cruiser parked at Sabal Palms? It doesn't explain whether that US1 pullover was verified AFAIK

If there wasn't any actual pullover (ie maybe this guy never even got in the car at all) then it only supports the idea he wasn't wanting to actually meet up with this girl.

I don't think #14 matters either because all he is said is "maybe" which is not concrete plans. Just like "hey maybe we could rob a bank" isn't enough to arrest someone for attempted robbery.

#15 is also a 'maybe', and you can see on page 7 of 9 that he backs out again, and the law enforcement officer (who had taken over for the teen boy at this point) continues enticing/entrapping him by insulting him for backing down

#19 shows that since Jan 11th there was an entire week of no-contact from Zach Spiegel when law enforcement harasses him again on Jan 18th trying to entrap him once more.

#21 (from end of 8of9 to start of 9of9) seems to be the key to the charge. Here he says "maybe we can meet up and JUST CHAT"

"If we end up fooling around in my car, then okay" is too vague to be meaningful.

As far as the following "how bad do you want?" that is not "I will let you suck my cock" it is just asking about her desire for something he already stated he would not do until she was older.

#22 is similarly only asking what she wants, not stating he would actually perform the cunnilingus or fingering in that situation.

So yeah, IMO this is not "attempted online enticement" because it is far too vague. That shit should be thrown out, and h should only be charged w/ lesser crimes related to sending "her" dick pics.
I appreciate your attention to detail and I think it was a close call to the jury; they acquitted him on one count of attempted enticement but convicted him on another.

But yeah he's fucked because federal law is incredibly harsh, like stupidly harsh
 
she talked to him like she talks to chad. he was intoxicated by the cunny. i dont blame him
 
they acquitted him on one count of attempted enticement but convicted him on another
sounds fair, surprising I would've thought he'd get the bad charge

IMO we don't really need laws against sending out dick pics to high-schoolers though, they should be mature enough not to be scarred by stuff like that

dick pics have a much lower chance of harming teen girls than actually having sex, after all

the age at which you can legally look at nudes and have people give them to you should be lower than the age at which you can start touching dicks, that's just logic
 
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A picture of Zachary S. Spiegel from the trial exhibits.

Last week, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida announced:


It's unusual for a vigilante sting operation to end up in federal court—much less one run by a 16-year-old boy. The 16-year-old's identity is undisclosed; however, the chat logs and other trial exhibits were recently made publicly accessible by the U.S. Attorney's Office.

In January 2022, two 16-year-olds approached a Fort Pierce Police Department officer to let him know that one of them had LARPed as a 14-year-old girl named "Shayla", and that 38-year-old Spiegel was coming to meet them for sexual purposes. Law enforcement, with the permission of the 16-year-old's parents, then assumed the identity of "Shayla". Spiegel was then arrested.

"Shayla" first informed Spiegel of "her" age.

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Of course, the moment Spiegel sees a picture of the purported 14-year-old foidlet, he starts thinking with his dick and not his brain:
View attachment 597385

You can read the relevant affidavit from a Homeland Security Investigations agent and the entirety of the chat log here:



Spiegel, who is the father of two young children (*cough personality detector cough*), now faces a statutory


View attachment 597381
A picture of Zachary S. Spiegel from the trial exhibits.

Last week, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida announced:


It's unusual for a vigilante sting operation to end up in federal court—much less one run by a 16-year-old boy. The 16-year-old's identity is undisclosed; however, the chat logs and other trial exhibits were recently made publicly accessible by the U.S. Attorney's Office.

In January 2022, two 16-year-olds approached a Fort Pierce Police Department officer to let him know that one of them had LARPed as a 14-year-old girl named "Shayla", and that 38-year-old Spiegel was coming to meet them for sexual purposes. Law enforcement, with the permission of the 16-year-old's parents, then assumed the identity of "Shayla". Spiegel was then arrested.

"Shayla" first informed Spiegel of "her" age.

View attachment 597383View attachment 597386

Of course, the moment Spiegel sees a picture of the purported 14-year-old foidlet, he starts thinking with his dick and not his brain:
View attachment 597385

You can read the relevant affidavit from a Homeland Security Investigations agent and the entirety of the chat log here:



Spiegel, who is the father of two young children (*cough personality detector cough*), now faces a statutory maximum of life imprisonment. :feelshaha:

@RoastieBeef @Wizard32

The whole concept of string operations for "sexual crimes" in the digital sphere is murky, to say the least. It's a massive gray area which comes with a lot of liberties (at best) and downright abuse (at worst) by the authorities. One honestly can't make heads or tails of it.
 
Another normfuck gets screwed? Awesome
 
Every day I thank God that I live in Europe
 
In Europe, these type of sting operations are less frequent or don't happen at all right?
If I fucked a 14 year old girl I would get a few months prison WORST CASE SCENARIO. In America you risk life in prison for talking to one!
 
If I fucked a 14 year old girl I would get a few months prison WORST CASE SCENARIO. In America you risk life in prison for talking to one!
well burgerland has always had a puritanical streak
 
Homies always got caught, they need to be more smart with this shit they never learn :dafuckfeels: pedophilia is seen as the ultimate crime because of the supposed "innocence" of minors if they caught your ass your done and this dude didnt even do somehting extra.
 
Free Him

Uoohh shrimp


she talked to him like she talks to chad. he was intoxicated by the cunny. i dont blame him
Yep, blood was flowing to the wrong place. Even if it was a 14 year old, broken 14 year olds are not appealing to anyone but whore mongers.

Also law is bullshit that a minor can talk to another minor this way but not an adult.
 
He is a father of 2 children. Fuk this boomer piece of shit. He fucked and creamed his share of foids back in the day and now tries to snatch more fresh pussy for himself. Maybe if he was a khv incel I'd feel kind of neutral in this case but nah hope he enjoys being a lil bitch in prison. Good job vigilante.

If you had your fun in the sun already then fuk off boomer shitheads
 
He is a father of 2 children. Fuk this boomer piece of shit. He fucked and creamed his share of foids back in the day and now tries to snatch more fresh pussy for himself. Maybe if he was a khv incel I'd feel kind of neutral in this case but nah hope he enjoys being a lil bitch in prison. Good job vigilante.

If you had your fun in the sun already then fuk off boomer shitheads
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