truecel trait: youre less than half white

[DarkStar]

I don't disagree but have to add that in the grand scheme of human phenotypes europeans are massively far apart from each other.

Of course difference does exist, however, it is massively overstated.

According to traditional anthropology, Europeans are made up of three major Phenotypes/Sub-groups: Nordic, Alpinid, and Mediterranid.

Southern Europeans -Iberians, Italians, Greeks, etc- were often classed as a mix of the Mediterranid & Alpinid phenotypes. Whilst Arabs were considered part of the Orientalid & Armenoid phenotypes, which whilst definitely Caucasian have different features, skin tones, etc from Alpinid-Mediterranid Southern Europeans.

No one thinks of a swarthy spaniard or italian when they think of white people. I just kept on posting because it's triggering that kid up there.

That is because they are exclusively basing it from primarily American media: The White stock of this country traditionally has been majority North-West European: Anglo, Irish, Welsh, Dutch, German, etc.

The sort of "Blonde hair blue eyed" type(Nordic) is what most media portrays as the ideal standard of attractiveness. Hence, why it is a common perception amongst some that only Nordic=white.

 

[ElTruecel]

Definitely, but another factor in this case is of course climate. Northern climates create more robust physiology than tropical ones. This is why Native North Americans are such bonemoggers while Indios comparatively seem to have a more gook-like facial structure

I c. Yea true Northern climates do play a role.

 

[Thaway]

Of course difference does exist, however, it is massively overstated.

According to traditional anthropology, Europeans are made up of three major Phenotypes/Sub-groups: Nordic, Alpinid, and Mediterranid.

Southern Europeans -Iberians, Italians, Greeks, etc- were often classed as a mix of the Mediterranid & Alpinid phenotypes. Whilst Arabs were considered part of the Orientalid & Armenoid phenotypes, which whilst definitely Caucasian have different features, skin tones, etc from Alpinid-Mediterranid Southern Europeans.

That is because they are exclusively basing it from primarily American media: The White stock of this country traditionally has been majority North-West European: Anglo, Irish, Welsh, Dutch, German, etc.

The sort of "Blonde hair blue eyed" type(Nordic) is what most media portrays as the ideal standard of attractiveness. Hence, why it is a common perception amongst some that only Nordic=white.

Okay

 

[DarkStar]

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Okay, oil eye.

 

[DarkStar]

Okay, oil eye.

dnr

 

[Thaway]

dnr

Yeah you did, darky.

 

[DarkStar]

Yeah you did, darky.

>Tfw regardless of what you or I believe, I am actually mostly Northern European. I am partly Anglo & Welsh.

 

[turdcel]

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I see way more ethnic looking guys than him regularly. He may have dark hair & eyes, but his nose, face structure, etc seems distinctly more European than middle-eastern.

I think it is, it is measuring the distance after all which does seem somewhat of a better way as opposed to certain DNA tests, such as (((MyHeritage))).

Well it wasn't the exact same type of Moroccans then as today. I believe that the ones who ruled Spain, the Moors who were basically Berbers, only account for a small chunk of most modern Moroccan dna. Nowadays, Moroccans are mostly Arabic(Semitic) with some Sub-Saharan in them due to the transatlantic slave trade.

Also, I think the Moors only accounted for a small chunk of the population, and had some sort of apartheid like system in place.

It varies slightly differently by accounts. By almost always, Mediterraneans were considered part of the White European race, just of a different sub-group than Nords.

why do you think portugese are ethnic

 

[Thaway]

>Tfw regardless of what you or I believe, I am actually mostly Northern European. I am partly Anglo & Welsh.

dnr

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I think a reason why this is the case is because of Neolithic vs HG like lifestyle.

South Americans natives had civilizations and advanced meanwhile North American natives didn’t and stayed as hunter gatherers.


Also look at the IE vs the EEF. The Indo european Yamnaya had a more robust skull and better features than the Anatolian Neolithic farmers. Despite the EEF being the ones to spring up civilization in Europe.

@Copexodius Maximus @Chudpreet would u 2 agree

Farmer populations used to be smaller in height and consistently got cucked by nomadic tallfags who took their food and women by force. It’s proof that evil people win in this world.

As for skulls, it’s hard to say. There’s a lot of confusing and contradicting information on this subject. I looked online for some recomstruction comparisons:

Yamnaya

Anatolian

It seems like these these examples support it, but there weren’t many I could fond for anatolian hunter gatherers tbh.

 

[ElTruecel]

Farmer populations used to be smaller in height and consistently got cucked by nomadic tallfags who took their food and women by force. It’s proof that evil people win in this world.

As for skulls, it’s hard to say. There’s a lot of confusing and contradicting information on this subject. I looked online for some recomstruction comparisons:

Yamnaya
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Anatolian
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It seems like these these examples support it, but there weren’t many I could fond for anatolian hunter gatherers tbh.

best proxy for Anatolian Neolithic is the Sardinians. As for AHG I’m not entirely sure.

 

[Thaway]

Farmer populations used to be smaller in height and consistently got cucked by nomadic tallfags who took their food and women by force. It’s proof that evil people win in this world.

As for skulls, it’s hard to say. There’s a lot of confusing and contradicting information on this subject. I looked online for some recomstruction comparisons:

Yamnaya
View attachment 986503

Anatolian
View attachment 986505View attachment 986512

It seems like these these examples support it, but there weren’t many I could fond for anatolian hunter gatherers tbh.

They have found that Hunter Gatherers had massively bigger skeletons and height compared to farmer populations. Yamnaya were basically North Eastern Hunter Gatherers turned Steppe Herders.

Europe was completely settled by descendands of anatolian farmers with tiny pockets of older european Hunter Gatherer populations ( in norhern europe mostly). Between those 2 genetically very distinct groups, the Hunter Gatherers were massively bigger but were slowly pushed to the fringes of europe by the farmers. farming was safer and enabled to have more kids, also the kids due to their reduced size needed less food to survice ect ect.

In the beginning of the bronze age a new Group entered europe. Steppe Herders that seem to have split up from the yamnaya group coming from the east. They were also distinctly bigger and more war like compared to the anatolian farmers and basically nearly completely replaced/removed them.
The Steppe Herders are believed to have been the ones that brought the Indo-European languages into Europe and had a purely patriachical society.

What's interesting is that you can still see the effects of this nowadays. The people that have the highest anatolian farmer dna in europe nowadays are southern europeans (spaniards, italians ect). They are also smaller and build more frail compared to more northern europeans who on average have more Steppe Herder DNA.

The countries with the highest amount of Old European Hunter Gatherer DNA also have the tallest and most massive people in all of europe. (Germanic countries and certain areas in the baltics).

The world has always been simply about being the biggest most aggressive mogger. Everything else, in this case farming and advanced culture, absolutely doesn't matter.

The Early European Farmer Article on wikipedia has some interesting info and links to studies in it.

 

[Gendocel]

I'm White and still an incel.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

best proxy for Anatolian Neolithic is the Sardinians. As for AHG I’m not entirely sure.

Well, Sardinians are thousands of years removed from them both and we can’t known exactly is the same or different.

They have found that Hunter Gatherers had massively bigger skeletons and height compared to farmer populations. Yamnaya were basically North Eastern Hunter Gatherers turned Steppe Herders.

Europe was completely settled by descendands of anatolian farmers with tiny pockets of older european Hunter Gatherer populations ( in norhern europe mostly). Between those 2 genetically very distinct groups, the Hunter Gatherers were massively bigger but were slowly pushed to the fringes of europe by the farmers. farming was safer and enabled to have more kids, also the kids due to their reduced size needed less food to survice ect ect.

In the beginning of the bronze age a new Group entered europe. Steppe Herders that seem to have split up from the yamnaya group coming from the east. They were also distinctly bigger and more war like compared to the anatolian farmers and basically nearly completely replaced/removed them.
The Steppe Herders are believed to have been the ones that brought the Indo-European languages into Europe and had a purely patriachical society.

What's interesting is that you can still see the effects of this nowadays. The people that have the highest anatolian farmer dna in europe nowadays are southern europeans (spaniards, italians ect). They are also smaller and build more frail compared to more northern europeans who on average have more Steppe Herder DNA.

The countries with the highest amount of Old European Hunter Gatherer DNA also have the tallest and most massive people in all of europe. (Germanic countries and certain areas in the baltics).

The world has always been simply about being the biggest most aggressive mogger. Everything else, in this case farming and advanced culture, absolutely doesn't matter.

The Early European Farmer Article on wikipedia has some interesting info and links to studies in it.

I agree with the height part, but what about skull size?

 

[Thaway]

I agree with the height part, but what about skull size?

It's a map with data collected before globalisation. It seems that headsize generally also correlates with the north south divide. Interestingly overlaps strongly with the Urheimat of the Germanic peoples in northern Germany and Denmark. I think it's safe to assume that Western Hunter Gatherers (so basically the oldest group of people in europe) had the largest everything. Whereas Steppe Herders and Anatolian Populations have similar Headsize but Steppe People have larger bodies compared to Anatolians.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

It's a map with data collected before globalisation. It seems that headsize generally also correlates with the north south divide. Interestingly overlaps strongly with the Urheimat of the Germanic peoples in northern Germany and Denmark. I think it's safe to assume that Western Hunter Gatherers (so basically the oldest group of people in europe) had the largest everything. Whereas Steppe Herders and Anatolian Populations have similar Headsize but Steppe People have larger bodies compared to Anatolians.

Then I guess it’s hard to determine whether larger heads are a result of hunter gatherer lifestyles or just because these populations were just different. It seems more likely the second one though.
@ElTruecel this dude brought some good data.

 

[idgaf]

The Spaniards should've done a better job of bleaching Mexico, castiza girls are hot as fuck.

 

[Nate Higgers]

I think whites here are mainly just geocels

I thought that you're against miscegenation, that will produce less whites and more deathnics

i dont see any shot of spreading my genes

Sex≠Reproduction
We should take any chance to ascend but I don't think that we should curse an innocent soul with our subhumanity
If you had the chance to spread your genes after eveything you've gone through would you do it knowing that you might curse your potential son?

 

[Nate Higgers]

If you are ethnic God has condemned you to hell already

 

[therealfonz]

Yeah sure they are, with their brownish skin and black hair. No one thinks of a portugese when they talk about white people.

Portuguese do not have "brownish" skin I don't know where this idea came from, sure they are slightly darker and are tanned no shit but put a Portuguese next to an actual brown person and it's not comparable in an way, even light brown people vs dark Portuguese isn't close

 

[Made in Heaven]

Really? I thought what happened was that Arabs moved to the regions in much larger amounts than the native populations & displaced them somewhat.

Arabs wouldn't even have the numbers to do that, considering even NOW, with all the modern tech they have (meaning they can produce more children), Saudi is still lower in population compared to Morocco, or any other ocuntry like Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, etc. Now imagine living in a barren desert with barely any water or farm land. I dont remember where I read this but iirc in the 7th century, the ENTIRE Arabian Peninsula had like 2 million people, while the Levant, which obviously is far SMALLER in total land, had 10 million during that same time period. So, like I said, they literally didn't even have the numbers to replace the people they conquered.

Also, genetic studies time and again show that Arabs clearly didn't displace/replace the natives of Iraq, Levant, or North Africa. Googling simple PCAs of Middle East populations can show this

Arent Iranians a mix of the original Persians & Arabs? But yeah, the Kurds & Jews are all close to Arabs I think.

No. Iranians dont have much, if any, Arab blood due to Islamic expansion. Any genetic similarities exist prior to that.

Like I said, I thought that the Arabs migrated in such large amounts & eventually outbreed + killed off tons of the Native North Africans.

Nope, the only time I ever hear this argument is from white christians who want to insist that North Africa was white prior to brown arabs demographically replacing them, which is not true. In fact, Arabs are closer to Europeans than North Africans are, because, muchb like with Basuqes and Sardinians, most North African populations seem to have remained genetically isolated for long periods of time, allowing for their genes to drift away from other populations around them.

Links?

Iraqis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Well, maybe not in the sense of enforced laws stating that Muslim Berbers-Arabs & Christian Iberians should live separate, but more of in the sense that the Muslim Berbers-Arabs exclusively constituted the Upper-Class & thus would have lived de-facto segregated from the lower class of Christian Iberians.

idk about that tbh. I'm sure there were lower class Muslim Arabs as well as lower class Christian Iberians.

Yeah I heard stuff along these lines elsewhere online: It wasn't the Muslims mixing with the natives & staying, it was them mixing & then moving out of the region. Which maybe explains why very few MENAs are White passing.

yeah, its why you can occasionally find some Tunisians or Algerians who have trace amounts of Spanish blood

I think what they claimed exclusively was that the elite-class of Rome: Emperors, senators, nobles, etc. were all Nordic while the regular common-folk were all of Mediterranid & Alpinid stock. Nordicists didn't usually claim that Mediterraneans or Slavs(who were classed as Alpinid I believe) were non-white, they just saw them all as "lower-tier" whites.

yeah

 

[DarthBurritoBastard]

Really hope gene editing goes into play soon, so they can edit the swarthy genes and only keep the European one

 

[The Darkcel]

Stuff about white foids preferring niggers

Most of the white women were with black dudes in my HS, that was 2014 (when I graduated). Why? Because they were taller, bigger and more likely to fight (women love violence) compared to any other race, that's just fact! And that's just talking about school...

JBW is bullshit and cope.

 

[turdcel]

I think a reason why this is the case is because of Neolithic vs HG like lifestyle.

South Americans natives had civilizations and advanced meanwhile North American natives didn’t and stayed as hunter gatherers.


Also look at the IE vs the EEF. The Indo european Yamnaya had a more robust skull and better features than the Anatolian Neolithic farmers. Despite the EEF being the ones to spring up civilization in Europe.

@Copexodius Maximus @Chudpreet would u 2 agree

brootal dark triadpill

 

[turdcel]

I thought that you're against miscegenation, that will produce less whites and more deathnics

Sex≠Reproduction
We should take any chance to ascend but I don't think that we should curse an innocent soul with our subhumanity
If you had the chance to spread your genes after eveything you've gone through would you do it knowing that you might curse your potential son?

true.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Most of the white women were with black dudes in my HS, that was 2014 (when I graduated). Why? Because they were taller, bigger and more likely to fight (women love violence) compared to any other race, that's just fact! And that's just talking about school...

JBW is bullshit and cope.

My 14 year old sister told me how she has a green eyed ginger teacher who married a 6'9 nigger and she told me how her teacher never stops talking about how tall he is.