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Transcendence, the platonic project and confucianism: understanding the ricecel mentality and traditional society

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Much is talked about traditional society, but little is understood about it nowadays, since contemporary world is off from tradition and modern man lack the context and most concepts to talk about it.

What is the end goal of philosophy? The good life. What is the truth of real life? The blackpill. How can knowing about the blackpill lead to a good life? To understand this you have to understand the platonic project.

When you first read plato books and lack any experience they seem like quite juveline dialogues about definitions. The definition of justice, of love, of good etc. This is the first level to understanding plato. The second is another thing everybody knows about, which is the theory of forms. What it basically says is that reality is not fundamentally a physical thing, but that there's an invisible, transcendental ideal realm which has the perfect form of each thing, and everything we see and experience here exists as an imitation of the ideal things. This relates directly to why he wants to find the definition of each of those high things, because it leads to knowledge of the perfect forms.

So, Plato says there's a higher form above all others, which is like the sun, and all other forms(as well as the physical things) are like the sunlight. This prime form is what he calls the "form of the good". The explanation to why such a form exists relates to the question of the one and the multiplicity. The logical, metaphysical relationships between one and many necessarily set the start to all reality, see Plato's Parmenides book. Plato then says that this thing, the one, is the same as the form of the good.

So the world is a metaphysical emanation from the one to the forms, which are perfect blueprints, and our world is like a vessel receiving the forms, just like a cup of water and water. OK. So what does this imply? That all good things are merely an imitation of higher principles. So Plato doesn't stop in the metaphysical part, but goes on to politics, where POLITICS IS THE GOAL OF LIFE AND SOCIETY SHOULD REFLECT COSMIC ORDER.

This is the main concept of traditional society, which people fail to understand because they fail to understand cosmic order in the first place. We live in a darwinist hellhole, as mammals, which are pretty much all polygynous. But we are the only animals capable of understanding our animal condition fully(the blackpill), as well as cosmic order fully(metaphysics). And so society should be a reflection of our animalistic nature and our philosophical nature, with the lower subordinate to the higher. Plato wrote a bunch of political stuff and considered the book Laws to be his magnum opus, as a book which is a fictional constitution of a state.

This is also the story of Confucius. Confucius was a mysogynist, retrograde by even 2000 years ago standards, who understood both the blackpill and the daoist sages. If you read the analects he even puts average women and male criminals in about the same level, with the males still slightly better. His goal was to revive traditional values from ancient(by his standards) governments, which were based in this transcendental ideas. Confucius is the chinese Plato, he didn't write as much as Plato, but put more of it into practice. They are the same because their goal was the same.

So look at how confucianist society is. Normies and women should be treated like cattle and brainwashed with values like honor and filial piety. Women hypergamous nature should be official with politically powerful men marrying dozens of women. The majority of men should have sex with prostitutes and prostitution should be seen as slightly normal. Men who can financially support a family should marry and should even cheat his wife with prostitutes and have other families if he can support that, and no one should question it. This way society expresses the nature of human sexuality, but no one is completely dry.

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In relation to the ricecel mindset. Because the world has this perfect transcendental realm, each art and activity, each movement, in fact, has a perfect analogue. If I hit a ping pong ball it's as if there's a perfect version of me hitting the ball with maximum efficiency. My role in this world is to imitate that perfect version, which is what they mean when they say you should be like water and do things in the most natural way. They also call this wu wei. To achieve this I just have to try to imitate the perfect version a bazillion times, which is why Chinese people grind like that.

Check this story of them:

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Prince Huei’s cook was cutting up a bullock. Every blow of his hand, every heave of his shoulders, every tread of his foot, every thrust of his knee, every whshh of rent flesh, every chhk of the chopper, was in perfect rhythm — like the dance of the Mulberry Grove, like the harmonious chords of Ching Shou.

“Well done!” cried the Prince. “Yours is skill indeed!”

“Sire,” replied the cook, laying down his chopper. “I have always devoted myself to Tao, which is higher than mere skill. When I first began to cut up bullocks, I saw before me whole bullocks. After three years’ practice, I saw no more whole animals. And now I work with my mind and not with my eyes. My mind works along without the control of the senses. Falling back upon eternal principles, I glide through such great joints or cavities as there may be, according to the natural constitution of the animal. I do not even touch the convolutions of muscle and tendon, still less attempt to cut through large bones.

“A good cook changes his chopper once a year — because he cuts. An ordinary cook, once a month — because he hacks. But I have had this chopper nineteen years, and although I have cut up many thousand bullocks, its edge is as if fresh from the whetstone. For at the joints there are always interstices, and the edge of a chopper being without thickness, it remains only to insert that which is without thickness into such an insterstice. Indeed there is plenty of room for the blade to move about. It is thus that I have kept my chopper for nineteen years as though fresh from the whetstone.

“Nevertheless, when I come upon a knotty part which is difficult to tackle, I am all caution. Fixing my eye on it, I stay my hand and gently apply the blade, until with a kwah the part yields like earth crumbling to the ground. Then I take out my chopper and stand up, and look around, and pause with an air of triumph. Then wiping my chopper, I put it carefully away.”

“Bravo!” cried the Prince. “From the words of this cook I have learnt how to take care of my life
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So the life of the average chink is to be heavily brainwashed to conform to society, grind like a robot to achieve perfection even on the most mundane acts and be fine with being an incel because you will fuck prostitutes if you are poor or find a virgin wife if you ascend financially. Of course it's not exactly like this anymore since the communist revolution, but those old elements still heavily influence chinese society.

Truly a cultivated form of the human condition, even when failed.
 
Many philosophers were just incels who had no cope so they slewed out nonsensel all day.
 
dnr that stupid mumbo jumbo crap, GrAY
 

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