Traditional morality is the reason why most of us suffer.

[caineturbat2003]

By traditional morality I mean as in good vs evil type of morality. As Nietzsche liked to call it, slave morality. Most of us, and especially westcels, suffer because most people still believe and follow this outdated moral system. And what's worse is that they treat morality as if it's black and white. No shades of gray, lighter or darker gray. That is why moral dilemmas are a thing in the first place. It's a childish outlook.

That is why cuckery is a thing, most people treated morality as black and white and now they are basically what we call cuckolds. And what's worse is that cuckery is actually dragging society (us included) down the shithole because there are no consequences for the foid to be a whore. Even feminism, human rights in general have a root of origin from slave morality.

Like communism, slave morality is good in theory but in practice it's fucking terrible. The human species hasn't evolved enough to have such luxury. We live in an enviroment that simply does not permit for such morality to exist. It's like trying to teach a fucking lion not to be the lion because it's "le ebil ".

If we want to at least thrive, we need to partially abandon slave morality, use whatever principles that are applicable in today's society to keep it at a balance then use master morality in order to reach true progress. Basically we need to create our own morality, but at a societal scale.

 

[caineturbat2003]

In other words, traditional morality is unnatural.

 

[autisticsoy]

Could you post some examples so I can get bit of a clearer image

 

[caineturbat2003]

Could you post some examples so I can get bit of a clearer image

For example you have an absolutely deplorable scumbag with no sense of empathy whatsoever. He does whatever the fuck he wants to do, not thinking of what the consequences might bring to others. He is a rabid dog, you cannot reason with him no matter what. He's unredeemable. Kinda like the Joker.

Now, how do you solve this issue? A person that practices traditional morality will say to put up with it because it is wrong and evil to get rid of him since "all life is valuable ". Another one that practices master morality or developed his own moral code will say that it is reasonable to get rid of that scumbag no matter how morally questionable it is. It is justifiable because he put himself in this said situation and society has no other choice but to root its problem out.

You can also apply it on a individual level. The point is, traditional morality leads to cuckoldry.

 

[autisticsoy]

For example you have an absolutely deplorable scumbag with no sense of empathy whatsoever. He does whatever the fuck he wants to do, not thinking of what the consequences might bring to others. He is a rabid dog, you cannot reason with him no matter what. He's unredeemable. Kinda like the Joker.

Now, how do you solve this issue? A person that practices traditional morality will say to put up with it because it is wrong and evil to get rid of him since "all life is valuable ". Another one that practices master morality or developed his own moral code will say that it is reasonable to get rid of that scumbag no matter how morally questionable it is. It is justifiable because he put himself in this said situation and society has no other choice but to root its problem out.

You can also apply it on a individual level. The point is, traditional morality leads to cuckoldry.

It kinda does this reminds me too much of aot when people where debating wether even was right or wrong despite the entire world presented as clearly wanting to destroy the island.

 

[caineturbat2003]

It kinda does this reminds me too much of aot when people where debating wether even was right or wrong despite the entire world presented as clearly wanting to destroy the island.

AOT has derived such "dilemma" from real world problems. You can basically see this issue the same with how the West deals with its immigration problem. It does nothing and preferres to be cucked by outsiders because it's the "right" thing to do according to their morality.

 

[autisticsoy]

AOT has derived such "dilemma" from real world problems. You can basically see this issue the same with how the West deals with its immigration problem. It does nothing and preferres to be cucked by outsiders because it's the "right" thing to do according to their morality.

The west such as europe or north america. Because im hearing more like western europe is the one with the mass immigration problem, though I didnt forget about Canada as well with the huge immigration.

 

[caineturbat2003]

The west such as europe or north america. Because im hearing more like western europe is the one with the mass immigration problem, though I didnt forget about Canada as well with the huge immigration.

For a better understanding, watch this video.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np93_8qdEpk

 

[Reverend Insanity]

AOT has derived such "dilemma" from real world problems. You can basically see this issue the same with how the West deals with its immigration problem. It does nothing and preferres to be cucked by outsiders because it's the "right" thing to do according to their morality.

The right thing to do is a psyop the real reason is cheap workers. The billionaires want it. But the cuckservatives will never say it but instead target the migrantcels

 

[caineturbat2003]

For a better understanding, watch this video.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np93_8qdEpk

as well as this

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3sA2bvGy-8

 

[caineturbat2003]

The right thing to do is a psyop the real reason is cheap workers. The billionaires want it. But the cuckservatives will never say it but instead target the migrantcels

That's why I say to abandon it altogether. It acts like a cancer and sooner it will destroy their society, or at least what made them them.

 

[Reverend Insanity]

That's why I say to abandon it altogether. It acts like a cancer and sooner it will destroy their society, or at least what made them them.

It is not that simple because the big currencies for trade like USD, Euro, Pound etc... are all western currencies. So there should be a way for the 3rd world countries to get some of these currencies. The methods are imports and remittance. Without migrants remittance will dry up. This will eventually lead to a chain of events that's not very good for them

 

[autisticsoy]

as well as this

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3sA2bvGy-8

From what I got from both of your videos is that one group shouldn't show empathy or at the least favoritism over a group not of their own. That they should prioritize their own first before anything. That morality is within a community. This is in play with immigration as say outsider groups that I will call B are wanting to come in to group A country. Group B is getting better treatment than the people of group A despite being in group A home country. When someone in group B does something bad the people in group A do nothing because reasons either of virtue, mksdirected empathy, or something. Blatantly group A is treating group B people better than their own simply because of virtue or empathy even though the people of Group B are not assimalating, refuse to integrate, and are committing crimes that harm group A. Sorry if I simplified it too much.

 

[Reverend Insanity]

It is not that simple because the big currencies for trade like USD, Euro, Pound etc... are all western currencies. So there should be a way for the 3rd world countries to get some of these currencies. The methods are imports and remittance. Without migrants remittance will dry up. This will eventually lead to a chain of events that's not very good for them

The billionaires and big dogs all got their money in these currencies they will never allow it's demand to even go down in the slightest

 

[caineturbat2003]

The billionaires and big dogs all got their money in these currencies they will never allow it's demand to even go down in the slightest

I was talking from a philosophical point of view that this type of morality is retarded.

 

[Reverend Insanity]

The billionaires and big dogs all got their money in these currencies they will never allow it's demand to even go down in the slightest

The best solution here imo is to ban birthright citizenship but still allow migrants to work

 

[caineturbat2003]

The best solution here imo is to ban birthright citizenship but still allow migrants to work

Kinda like a slavery system but with extra steps.

 

[Reverend Insanity]

I was talking from a philosophical point of view that this type of morality is retarded.

The morality is just to fool the peasants so that they don't riot. The main reason is money. Basically the world works like this the countries like India, China and other countries with weaker currencies produce stuff and sell it to first world countries. The products also include people

 

[160cmbloop]

the world is run all “gray”

not a “good” or “bad” side to it

just interests, leverage, and power

people call it morality, but most of the time it’s just justification after the fact

the ones who win get to define what was “right”

the ones who lose get labeled as wrong, crazy, or evil

these things don’t exist because they’re fair, they exist because someone with power benefits from them

 

[caineturbat2003]

not a “good” or “bad” side to it

Here's the thing, when people say bad, what they actually mean is evil. Bad is a term used for whatever goes against someone's nature. For example eating shit is bad for you, not evil. You get what I mean.

But I guess it depends on how you define morality.

 

[Pikacel]

For a better understanding, watch this video.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np93_8qdEpk

He should drop the shallow schizo gimmick, his topics aren’t particularly groundbreaking or crazy

Maybe theRAPIST gaslighters told him he’s schizo they do this all the time to NDs