Blackpill Tradcopers BTFO again - In Past Husbands were punished for getting beaten by Wife

[GeckoBus]

Historical sources and their analysis in academic literature establish that intimate violence has been a cause for concern stemming from at least England’s medieval times. While men-as-perpetrators of violence on wives or female partners could be prosecuted or subject to public exposure, ironically men-as-victims of their wives’ violence were subject to punishment. This punishment took several forms, one of which was a form of public exposure known as a “Skimmington” procession: a public humiliation derived from Charivari rituals widespread in early Europe. The history of Skimmington is reviewed and inferences drawn

source:

https://sci-hub.ru/10.3149/jms.1002.111

It's not modernity, its not feminism or the jews. Its Human nature.
No, you could not rape or beat your wife.
No, you could not divorce her ass and put her on the street.
Nothing changes. The law has always protected foids, even in ancient times.

There has never been a golden age of patriarchy.
Life for men has always been trash.
TO ALL TRADNIGGERS - STOP FUCKING COPING

This exactly mimicks modern human behavior - human behavior has never ever changed. Nowadays society and police ignores foids part in domestic violence and usually arrests the dude. The guy is always punished, regardless of what happened. it's exactly the same as in the past.

@lifefuel @WorthlessSlavicShit @NorthernWind

 

[FrothySolutions]

Modernity and feminism clearly did change this. What they changed is "Men are the boss, so in addition to the rights of the boss they also have the responsibilities of the boss. Like not being weak enough to get beaten by your wife."

Modernity did away with that. It just didn't work on getting any justice for the fellas. We went from "You're the boss, and we'll punish you for your weakness" to "You shouldn't be the boss, and we'll punish you for your arrogance."

 

[GeckoBus]

Modernity and feminism clearly did change this. What they changed is "Men are the boss, so in addition to the rights of the boss they also have the responsibilities of the boss. Like not being weak enough to get beaten by your wife."

Modernity did away with that. It just didn't work on getting any justice for the fellas. We went from "You're the boss, and we'll punish you for your weakness" to "You shouldn't be the boss, and we'll punish you for your arrogance."

if you beat your wife, you also got punished.
there was no way to exercise your "boss" status either way

 

[Robtical]

Modernity and feminism clearly did change this. What they changed is "Men are the boss, so in addition to the rights of the boss they also have the responsibilities of the boss. Like not being weak enough to get beaten by your wife."

Modernity did away with that. It just didn't work on getting any justice for the fellas. We went from "You're the boss, and we'll punish you for your weakness" to "You shouldn't be the boss, and we'll punish you for your arrogance."

That's what i wanted to say too. They were punished for being cucks and not hitting them back and putting them in their place, unlike today where they are punished for putting them in their place.

 

[Robtical]

if you beat your wife, you also got punished.
there was no way to exercise your "boss" status either way

They would be punished a lot less bad than today, and they had to beat them severely, not just a slap.

 

[GeckoBus]

They would be punished a lot less bad than today, and they had to beat them severely, not just a slap.

keep coping, foids had total control


View: https://medium.com/history-street/many-wives-sued-their-husbands-for-being-impotent-during-the-medieval-times-f4a15916628e

 

[GeckoBus]

reminder that you are responsible as the husband for your wifes actions.
If she committed a crime, you would be punished.
Women literally used this to get their husbands imprisoned.

To go with @Robtical example of "only heavy beatings were punished"
video related
a foid could easily fake a beating and get you into trouble, just like today.

When your pitbull mauls someone, do they send the pitbull to prison?
No. They hold you accountable.
If your wife has no rights and is your property, all her actions reflect back on you.
The difference is that she is a human being with freewill and she fucking hates you.
This effectively gives her total power over the husband.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRFAFuvrgs

 

[FrothySolutions]

if you beat your wife, you also got punished.
there was no way to exercise your "boss" status either way

As boss, your job is to protect the "fairer" sex. If you're asking if there was ever a time you could be cruel to weaker people just because you wanna be cruel, and the world was just fine with that, no that never happened.

 

[Robtical]

keep coping, foids had total control


View: https://medium.com/history-street/many-wives-sued-their-husbands-for-being-impotent-during-the-medieval-times-f4a15916628e

I never heard of that. That was probably very rare. Don't believe dumb feminist hoes online.

reminder that you are responsible as the husband for your wifes actions.
If she committed a crime, you would be punished.
Women literally used this to get their husbands imprisoned.

To go with @Robtical example of "only heavy beatings were punished"
video related
a foid could easily fake a beating and get you into trouble, just like today.

When your pitbull mauls someone, do they send the pitbull to prison?
No. They hold you accountable.
If your wife has no rights and is your property, all her actions reflect back on you.
The difference is that she is a human being with freewill and she fucking hates you.
This effectively gives her total power over the husband.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRFAFuvrgs

If they had total power while being the property of men feminists wouldn't change the laws.

 

[Robtical]

reminder that you are responsible as the husband for your wifes actions.
If she committed a crime, you would be punished.
Women literally used this to get their husbands imprisoned.

To go with @Robtical example of "only heavy beatings were punished"
video related
a foid could easily fake a beating and get you into trouble, just like today.

When your pitbull mauls someone, do they send the pitbull to prison?
No. They hold you accountable.
If your wife has no rights and is your property, all her actions reflect back on you.
The difference is that she is a human being with freewill and she fucking hates you.
This effectively gives her total power over the husband.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRFAFuvrgs

I wouldn't mind being responsible for a foid who's my property. If she won't listen to me I'll threaten to cheat or divorce her.

 

[NorthernWind]

According to traditional view, men are supposed to control women ( husbands their wives ) but how this is possible if you aren't immune from being punished if you mistreat her?
This is basically damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

 

[nirvanacowboy]

Modernity and feminism clearly did change this. What they changed is "Men are the boss, so in addition to the rights of the boss they also have the responsibilities of the boss. Like not being weak enough to get beaten by your wife."

Modernity did away with that. It just didn't work on getting any justice for the fellas. We went from "You're the boss, and we'll punish you for your weakness" to "You shouldn't be the boss, and we'll punish you for your arrogance."

This is the perfect way to put it.

 

[NorthernWind]

As boss, your job is to protect the "fairer" sex. If you're asking if there was ever a time you could be cruel to weaker people just because you wanna be cruel, and the world was just fine with that, no that never happened.

But men are expected to protect even random females.

 

[FrothySolutions]

But men are expected to protect even random females.

Yes, that's the tradeoff that want from you for being the superior sex. With great power comes great responsibility.

 

[NorthernWind]

Yes, that's the tradeoff that want from you for being the superior sex. With great power comes great responsibility.

If you can't project or use your power, that's the point of having 'privilege' of 'superior sex'?
Like, if some country has modern weapons but unable to use them against some archaic tribe, what's the point of having advanced weapons in the first place?
Society talk about power of men but show me the power of low-value defective male like myself? Be a betabuxx cuck? Wageslaving for the sake of visiting escorts ( I did that a few times ). Where is my power?
Real power would be to having an ability to order females to please you in exchange for help. But only the most amoral men would use it.
I'm expected to help females but they aren't expected to help me.
Seems fair...

 

[FrothySolutions]

If you can't project or use your power, that's the point of having 'privilege' of 'superior sex'?
Like, if some country has modern weapons but unable to use them against some archaic tribe, what's the point of having advanced weapons in the first place?
Society talk about power of men but show me the power of low-value defective male like myself? Be a betabuxx cuck? Wageslaving for the sake of visiting escorts ( I did that a few times ). Where is my power?
Real power would be to having an ability to order females to please you in exchange for help. But only the most amoral men would use it.
I'm expected to help females but they aren't expected to help me.
Seems fair...

Women had obligations for being women too. If you were a good man, it was on them to be thankful and reciprocate what was given to them. If a woman doesn't fulfill her obligations, a man would be wholly entitled to go look elsewhere.

 

[NorthernWind]

Women had obligations for being women too. If you were a good man, it was on them to be thankful and reciprocate what was given to them. If a woman doesn't fulfill her obligations, a man would be wholly entitled to go look elsewhere.

You are talking about wife, but what kind of obligations random women had/have towards men?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Reading through all the replies in this thread,it's very apparent there has been no time in human history where it has been better to be chad. In the past, chad still had responsibilities to look after his wife and kids. Now, he has access to pussy buffet with 0 consequences. Chads can even fly to other countries ro get exotic pussy. The modern world is heaven for chads.

 

[FrothySolutions]

You are talking about wife, but what kind of obligations random women had/have towards men?

That's like asking "What does a child owe an adult for protecting the child from walking into a busy street?"

 

[NorthernWind]

That's like asking "What does a child owe an adult for protecting the child from walking into a busy street?"

Why not? It applies to everyone.
For example, if you provide a homeless child with a shelter and food, then you can ask him to work in your fields.
You can give a man €100 and ask him to help you move furniture.
But of course giving female money and expecting something from her is 'immoral', while Becky can betabuxx a drug addict Chad and steal money from her parents and give to him.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Why not? It applies to everyone.
For example, if you provide a homeless child with a shelter and food, then you can ask him to work in your fields.
You can give a man €100 and ask him to help you move furniture.
But of course giving female money and expecting something from her is 'immoral', while Becky can betabuxx a drug addict Chad and steal money from her parents and give to him.

You can't ask just any child to work in the fields. If they can work in the fields, they wouldn't by this standard be that much of a child. You wouldn't make a baby work the fields.

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Yup. I even remember @Edmund_Kemper making a thread about this (can't find it now, if anyone can post it here please, I think he even cited this exact same study there) about how this general belief of there having once been a golden age of patriarchy is simply wrong, though various people still believe in it for their own reasons. Guys on forums like this do it to cope, feminists because it's propaganda and masturbation fantasies for them, and so on.

 

[GeckoBus]

Yup. I even remember @Edmund_Kemper making a thread about this (can't find it now, if anyone can post it here please, I think he even cited this exact same study there) about how this general belief of there having once been a golden age of patriarchy is simply wrong, though various people still believe in it for their own reasons. Guys on forums like this do it to cope, feminists because it's propaganda and masturbation fantasies for them, and so on.

just read responses in this thread. I dont even bother replying with all the info on how shitty marriage was in all of history for men.
How alimony and spousal support has existed since bronze age, where dudes had to support their wife unconditionally.
Theres no arguing with them, i just surrender.

 

[erenyeager]

just read responses in this thread. I dont even bother replying with all the info on how shitty marriage was in all of history for men.
How alimony and spousal support has existed since bronze age, where dudes had to support their wife unconditionally.
Theres no arguing with them, i just surrender.

Surrender to humanity? Nonsense. You must find a way to cause the apocalypse. Another virus to the extinction of all life.

 

[GeckoBus]

Yup. I even remember @Edmund_Kemper making a thread about this (can't find it now, if anyone can post it here please, I think he even cited this exact same study there) about how this general belief of there having once been a golden age of patriarchy is simply wrong, though various people still believe in it for their own reasons. Guys on forums like this do it to cope, feminists because it's propaganda and masturbation fantasies for them, and so on.

Randomly read ur reply while re-reading thread, here you go, must have been this thread of his:

Domestic violence was never accepted. Wife beaters used to be just as hated as child molesters a century ago

A lot of people (including feminists) perpetuate this myth that until the 1970s, domestic violence was ignored by society, ignored by police and ignored by judges and it was seen as something between the husband and wife that wasn’t our business. This is a myth. The idea that society ignored and...

incels.is

 

[faded]

source:

https://sci-hub.ru/10.3149/jms.1002.111

It's not modernity, its not feminism or the jews. Its Human nature.
No, you could not rape or beat your wife.
No, you could not divorce her ass and put her on the street.
Nothing changes. The law has always protected foids, even in ancient times.

There has never been a golden age of patriarchy.
Life for men has always been trash.
TO ALL TRADNIGGERS - STOP FUCKING COPING

This exactly mimicks modern human behavior - human behavior has never ever changed. Nowadays society and police ignores foids part in domestic violence and usually arrests the dude. The guy is always punished, regardless of what happened. it's exactly the same as in the past.

@lifefuel @WorthlessSlavicShit @NorthernWind

100%
Death to trad coppers and conservatives Marxist revolutionary communism is the way forward!!!!!

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Randomly read ur reply while re-reading thread, here you go, must have been this thread of his:

Domestic violence was never accepted. Wife beaters used to be just as hated as child molesters a century ago

A lot of people (including feminists) perpetuate this myth that until the 1970s, domestic violence was ignored by society, ignored by police and ignored by judges and it was seen as something between the husband and wife that wasn’t our business. This is a myth. The idea that society ignored and...

incels.is

Yup.

 

[ogercel]

Life for men has always been trash.