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[To teenagers] Why you shouldn't be ashamed of your virginity or lack of success in dating

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You were born in a deeply abnormal time period when it comes to dating. A time period that asks of physically unattractive males the impossible. There is no shame in not succeeding in a rigged game.

A defining characteristic of teenagehood is lack of knowledge, especially historical knowledge, and the perspective that comes with it. So let me accelerate everything for you.

1) Before the 1960s (so, at most, sixty years), those who were publicly shamed, including in the USA, were the non-virgins. Premarital sex used to carry a great social stigma well until the end of the 1950s. Sexually active Stacies and Chads were made to feel inferior to virtuous virgins. Yes, "lad banter" has always existed, notably in the Army, but you should also know that when a military chaplain objected to the distribution of condoms to American troops before the Normandy landing, most of the troops threw their condoms to the ground out of fear of committing a capital sin in fornication. (source: Beevor, D-Day: The Battle for Normandy). Just imagine that.

It goes also without saying that nudity / sex acts in movies or television were completely censored.

What changed everything: the contraceptive Pill (approved by the FDA in 1960), Hollywood movies (once censors were no longer willing to fight the mountains of "degeneracy" coming from L.A.), and the death throes of Christianity.

2) Before the Roaring Twenties (1920s), there was no true concept of "girlfriend", and romantic kisses or public displays of affection were still taboo / source of scandal.

3) Before the 1880s, marriages were all arranged to a large extent, and premarital relationships with the opposite sex (including strictly platonic relationships) were strictly forbidden.

You can look up all these facts in wikipedia, or books and artworks produced in these periods.

My assessment is that you were born in a very unlucky, very rare and very bizarre time period. Your genes probably won't survive because of this severe lack of luck. I'm sorry. But you shouldn't feel guilty about it. You're just victim of a particularly unlucky phenomenon of natural selection.
 
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I still say sex isn't for kids. You're supposed to be an adult before you can have sex. I know people don't wait, but the rule we like to believe is that 18 or older is for sex.
 
Stephen Hawking IQ post, would like to pin this

I still say sex isn't for kids. You're supposed to be an adult before you can have sex. I know people don't wait, but the rule we like to believe is that 18 or older is for sex.

people here start fucking at 13 often. here and there are news reports of fucking 10 year olds getting pregnant
 
I still say sex isn't for kids.
This kind of moral statement is just as empty as the opposite one, and that's why it lost to the opposite one.

"Morality" is a scam. This has been demonstrated by Stirner and Nietzsche, among others. Every normative statement that doesn't come from an actual divinity with unlimited power is only the desperate rantings of a madman.

"Follow my orders! Why? Because I want it!" The thought process of both the fat feminist SJW and the anti-degeneracy incel. The reality is that no one gives a fuck about what you think, and no one should. Modern teens will continue to fuck at 12 years old, and I won't be the one to tell them to stop. I'm just here to tell those who can't fuck that they shouldn't feel ashamed about this failure.
 
This kind of moral statement is just as empty as the opposite one, and that's why it lost to the opposite one.

"Morality" is a scam. This has been demonstrated by Stirner and Nietzsche, among others. Every normative statement that doesn't come from an actual divinity with unlimited power is only the desperate rantings of a madman.

"Follow my orders! Why? Because I want it!" The thought process of both the fat feminist SJW and the anti-degeneracy incel. The reality is that no one gives a fuck about what you think, and no one should. Modern teens will continue to fuck at 12 years old, and I won't be the one to tell them to stop. I'm just here to tell those who can't fuck that they shouldn't feel ashamed about this failure.

I don't need divinity to tell me what's right and wrong.
 
I don't need divinity to tell me what's right and wrong.
In all likelihood, your vision of right and wrong is deeply personal, probably a result of your own unconscious frustrations, and you project it onto everyone via a famous bias called the typical mind fallacy.
 
You were born in a deeply abnormal time period when it comes to dating. A time period that asks of physically unattractive males the impossible. There is no shame in not succeeding in a rigged game.

A defining characteristic of teenagehood is lack of knowledge, especially historical knowledge, and the perspective that comes with it. So let me accelerate everything for you.

1) Before the 1960s (so, at most, sixty years), those who were publicly shamed, including in the USA, were the non-virgins. Premarital sex used to carry a great social stigma well until the end of the 1950s. Sexually active Stacies and Chads were made to feel inferior to virtuous virgins. Yes, "lad banter" has always existed, notably in the Army, but you should also know that when a military chaplain objected to the distribution of condoms to American troops before the Normandy landing, most of the troops threw their condoms to the ground out of fear of committing a capital sin in fornication. (source: Beevor, D-Day: The Battle for Normandy). Just imagine that.

It goes also without saying that nudity / sex acts in movies or television were completely censored.

What changed everything: the contraceptive Pill (approved by the FDA in 1960), Hollywood movies (once censors were no longer willing to fight the mountains of "degeneracy" coming from L.A.), and the death throes of Christianity.

2) Before the Roaring Twenties (1920s), there was no true concept of "girlfriend", and romantic kisses or public displays of affection were still taboo / source of scandal.

3) Before the 1880s, marriages were all arranged to a large extent, and premarital relationships with the opposite sex (including strictly platonic relationships) were strictly forbidden.

You can look up all these facts in wikipedia, or books and artworks produced in these periods.

My assessment is that you were born in a very unlucky, very rare and very bizarre time period. Your genes probably won't survive because of this severe lack of luck. I'm sorry. But you shouldn't feel guilty about it. You're just victim of a particularly unlucky phenomenon of natural selection.
As much as I agree with your statements, this remain Suifuel.
Quality thread.
 
Very interesting post thanks for sharing it.
 
Agree with @Fontaine generally but it's too UScentric, decaying European empires such as Austria also had sex before marriage in the general populace. Some % of JBs have been getting pregnant before marriage forever, the big change was the shotgun marriage.
 
In all likelihood, your vision of right and wrong is deeply personal, probably a result of your own unconscious frustrations, and you project it onto everyone via a famous bias called the typical mind fallacy.

But it's not just how I think. My mind is typical in this case.
 
My favorite thread on here. God I hope something crazy happens and makes at least the US revert back to its christian ways.

I’ve always wanted to have children and raise them right. This became an unobtainable goal once women were given “independence”. This killed it for biology. Men are no longer needed in their eyes, women can just lead themselves and we all know they’re not capable of doing that.

Women are the source of sin in the garden of eden, therefore we must keep them controlled. Because if we do not make them submissive, they will bring hell to the earth.
 
Agree with @Fontaine generally but it's too UScentric, decaying European empires such as Austria also had sex before marriage in the general populace. Some % of JBs have been getting pregnant before marriage forever, the big change was the shotgun marriage.
Sex out of marriage (aka fornication) has always existed, in every country. However, it was very badly considered and caused great troubles/scandals in communities.

Now, it is the norm and if you don't do it, you're badly considered. I find that twist of events incredible.
My favorite thread on here. God I hope something crazy happens and makes at least the US revert back to its christian ways.
As it stands now, the US has far better chances of being overrun by artificial superintelligence than reverting to Christian faith. Christianity is dead. It would take Jesus to come back for Christianity to live again.
 
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In my religion, the Baha'i Faith, we believe that "the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light" in end times prophecy from Matthew 24 in the Bible is a metaphor for religion losing its effectiveness. If Christianity is the sun, then for it to no longer give light means that it is no longer effective. We believe that our prophet Bahaullah is the return of Jesus Christ. In his books Bahaullah outlined a system of global theocratic government, which we believe to be the Millenial Kingdom described in the Bible. In our government, our prophet has laid out harsh punishments for fornication and other kinds of degeneracy. I believe that degenerate modern culture is the Antichrist foretold in the Bible, and that once the world (voluntarily) submits to Baha'i rule and adopts Baha'i law, this will destroy modern culture and therefore kill the Antichrist.
 
My assessment is that you were born in a very unlucky, very rare and very bizarre time period. Your genes probably won't survive because of this severe lack of luck. I'm sorry. But you shouldn't feel guilty about it. You're just victim of a particularly unlucky phenomenon of natural selection.


The wisdom of your posts shines a needed beacon of light into this decrepit cesspool of inceldom. Thank you.
 
The wisdom of your posts shines a needed beacon of light into this decrepit cesspool of inceldom. Thank you.
Glad I'm appreciated. I probably have a Messiah complex, but I want to provide teenagers with what nobody provided me when I was their age. A little bit more wisdom and knowledge would have prevented me from losing years of my life.
 
I've been feeling since a long time that I was born in an unfortunate age, considering my SMV params. I've also been thinking about arranged marriages, and how that could've solved many of my problems in the blink of the eye.
But the way you summarized it in the topic opener is awesome.

BTW can it be a minor consolation, that many foids are missing their fertile years, I mean they won't have kids, thus becoming bitter old cunts but more importantly, their genes also won't survive, just like ours.
 
BTW can it be a minor consolation, that many foids are missing their fertile years, I mean they won't have kids, thus becoming bitter old cunts but more importantly, their genes also won't survive, just like ours.

I am suspicious of any attempt to find reassurance and comfort under purely social angles; women have clearly won the fight and men have lost it, they have never been so powerful, free and happy in thousands of years. A few women lose the game, due to bad luck or hubris, but most manage to get the best of both worlds: fornication under 30, and family life after 30.

The more you analyze the current political, social and cultural paradigms in the world, the more you realize that there is nothing salvageable.

The only hope, in my opinion, comes from a very unlikely ally (considering that most tech advancers are liberals): tech. Technology, if we are to believe Kurzweil and other optimists, is on the verge of radically transforming the very fixed parameters that give rise to unsatisfying social equilibria.
 
While everything you are saying is true the fact is that if you are a virgin in this day and age you will get ridiculed by almost everyone

Sure its true that it SHOULD not be like this, but it IS, therefore the best advice for teencels is still to get laid ASAP
 
While everything you are saying is true the fact is that if you are a virgin in this day and age you will get ridiculed by almost everyone
And? Ridicule doesn't kill.
Sure its true that it SHOULD not be like this, but it IS, therefore the best advice for teencels is still to get laid ASAP
If you can get laid, yeah, I suppose. But that's just not a realistic option for most teens who lurk here

A far better advice would be to completely forget about sex for the time being, studymaxx, careermaxx and then run sugardaddy game in poor countries in your 30s
 
Andromeda Galaxy High IQ

Any user on this site is a casual Uruk Hai IQ shitposter compared to you @Fontaine.
 
My suffering has been hundreds of years in the making
 
High IQ post, I agree with majority of it except:
women have clearly won the fight and men have lost it, they have never been so powerful, free and happy in thousands of years. A f
Women happiness is currently lowest in history (http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969 or just type in Google female happiness paradox). Also many people are waking up and refuse to marry and reproduce with postwall sluts. Because of feminism in the end everyone looses: men and women too.
 
I still say sex isn't for kids. You're supposed to be an adult before you can have sex. I know people don't wait, but the rule we like to believe is that 18 or older is for sex.
Cope
 
Andromeda Galaxy High IQ

Any user on this site is a casual Uruk Hai IQ shitposter compared to you @Fontaine.

Me whenever Fontaine posts:
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The only hope, in my opinion, comes from a very unlikely ally (considering that most tech advancers are liberals): tech. Technology, if we are to believe Kurzweil and other optimists, is on the verge of radically transforming the very fixed parameters that give rise to unsatisfying social equilibria.
Expand on this. What exactly do you mean by technology?
 
Expand on this. What exactly do you mean by technology?
A convergence of technologies that were once popularly named NBIC: nanotechnology, biotechnology, information technology and computer science, are theoretically on the verge of allowing the alteration of these fixed parameters, for the first time in recorded history:

- The genes and physical appearance you were born with
- The inferiority of the real world compared to imaginary worlds such as video games
- Human mortality
- The dependency of reproduction on sex (which was an arbitrary route taken by evolution at some point, one which is arguably inferior to cloning/fission when it comes to preservation of genes and personal identity)
- The supremacy of the human brain in terms of intellectual power and problem-solving abilities
- The impossibility of fundamentally modifying how the human brain works

We are only at the beginnings of such a revolution, and a lot of us will probably die before it goes into full force (this is why much frustration ensues). However, there are already clues hinting at such a future world in our current environment:

- The sequencing of the human genome in 2000 and the discovery of CRISPR/Cas9 in 2012
- The seemingly unstoppable improvements in semi-conductors, computing power, pixel displays and video game graphics
- The beginning of FDA phase I trials for longevity drugs, and the increasing support of life extension technologies by American billionaires
- The invention and perfecting of in vitro fertilization techniques and female egg preservation, and early research into artificial wombs
- The growing achievements of artificial intelligence
- The existence of startups like Neuralink, hinting at a future fusion between "hardware" and "wetware"

When we will start seeing important change happening in the world because of all this, I don't know. It may either be quicker or slower than expected. Reasons to be optimistic include game theory: unstoppable competition between States, corporations and individuals ensures that one will push research if another doesn't, forcing the reluctant agent to ultimately copy this agressive behavior. This particularly makes sense for the use of AI in military tactics, weapon automation or fighting robots. DARPA, Russia, China are currently engaged in AI research because they are obligated to do so, not because they want to. According to Kurzweil, everything is actually accelerating.
 
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I hate degeneracy, i wish everyone of these sexual degenerates burn for eternity in a sea of flames.
 
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I hate degeneracy, i wish everyone of sexual degenerates burn for eternity ib a sea of flames.

Bro you seem cool if for no other fact than your as pissed and angry at the world as I am, ragecels for life bro!
 
I still say sex isn't for kids. You're supposed to be an adult before you can have sex. I know people don't wait, but the rule we like to believe is that 18 or older is for sex.
Good luck finding an 18 years old virgin. Once you are 18 it’s already over
 
Good luck finding an 18 years old virgin. Once you are 18 it’s already over

I don't need a virgin. I wouldn't turn one down, but I'm not after purity.
 
Technological revolution sounds nice and promising, however current state of mankind and environment points out rather to dystopian esque development of things rather than fancy hi/tech utopia. Those things will be probably accessible for the richest and gap between social classes will likely broaden. Not to mention climate issues, migration and over population. Thus there will be always low classes of people unable to properly exploit all technologies. These things about human mating that became evident in the later 19's and that you perfectly explained are just going to continue as possibilities and interactions in developed countries are practically unlimited, culture, trends that all is hustling toward superficial, looks based and arrogant society.
 
For me, her virginity only determines the type of arrangement I will allow.

She is virgin = Marriage and children are an option.

She is not a virgin = I will not support her in any way financially or otherwise. Only cohabitation, no kids.
 
Mt Everest IQ thread
 
Technological revolution sounds nice and promising, however current state of mankind and environment points out rather to dystopian esque development of things rather than fancy hi/tech utopia. Those things will be probably accessible for the richest and gap between social classes will likely broaden.
I don't think so. The Elysium scenario is too simple and too expected. I am ready to bet new technologies will register massive price drops in a short amount of time, and that Welfare States will hop up on the bandwagon.
 
I don't think so. The Elysium scenario is too simple and too expected. I am ready to bet new technologies will register massive price drops in a short amount of time, and that Welfare States will hop up on the bandwagon.
My thought about it was globally wise. Well estabilished countries with natural boarders and strict immigration policy like US have good potential to prosper in such manner, allthought we can only guess if economics will be able to sustain all that advancement for a long time. Other parts of the world and even most countries in europe might need a longer time, but that's just amateur guess, we really have no idea how environment, demographic situtation and its effects on economy will look in next 100 years.
 
I still say sex isn't for kids. You're supposed to be an adult before you can have sex. I know people don't wait, but the rule we like to believe is that 18 or older is for sex.
9BtfxEF
 
MANGEKYO SHARINGAN COPE. Even though I agree with what you said it doesn't make a difference, were not talking about 100 fucking years ago we live today. Being incel is still hell regardless of what the past was like.
 

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