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Theory Tiktok 'Blackpillers' are actually Redpillers, here's why.

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It's funny really, the Tiktok/Looksmax.org Blackpill appears to be more of a 'dark redpill' than the authentic scientific Blackpill you'd see over here (and on the forum across the street).

And I think part of the reason why this is is because if you understand the Blackpill, you'd realise that 'looksmaxxing' is futile for people like us, no matter how hard you try to looksmax, you'll inexorably hit a glass ceiling due to your genetics from which point you'll no longer be able to improve any further. For some, this glass ceiling is below the PSL threshold they need for ascension, therefore they're considered 'trucels'. And even people that do benefit from looksmaxxing are lucky if the even go up 1 point in the PSL scale. (I hate what the PSL scale has become, paying for face ratings is exploitation of mentally-ill people's self-hatred and stupidity).

But of course, the majority of Tiktok promoters of the Blackpill are these looksmaxxers who want to sell the idea that damn near anyone can surge by three, even four points on the PSL scale if they just follow the methods, use the products or get the surgeries that they promote on their £30-a-month course. And this belief is ironically a diluted yet integral Redpill tenet: 'Muh, anyone can achieve anything if they just work hard, if you're poor or ugly, you're a lazy fucking bastard who deserves it' These are Margaret Thatcher levels of delusion and in fact, actual libertarian talking points.

Now obviously they don't actually believe this themselves , they just know that promoting 'thumb-pulling' or 'mewing' as a quick, simple, catch-all solution to people's insecurities is amazing marketing, humans are psychologically primed to cling to belief i this sort of illogical bullshit simply just because it tells them that 'everything's going to be okay' even if logically it isn't (The brain has evolved to do that in order to stop people giving up on life), it's exactly the same Machiavellian manipulation technique and psychological phenomenon that lead to the birth of religion, people would rather accept blatant logical fallacies than face the darkness of their reality, some may call that 'taking the Bluepill'.

You could even argue that the only reason why some of us actually came to accept the true, logically accurate and science-backed form of the Blackpill was because it was the only 'pill' (or belief system) that told us that our failures weren't our fault and are the result of factor outside of our control. As well as the fact that we the lived experience of experiencing the implications of the Blackpill in our daily lives. This last point would definitely be an interesting avenue to explore further, I intend to make a more detailed, in depth thread about this at some point in the future.

These creators like Clavicular, SyrianPsycho, Dillon Latham, Faceiq etc. are genuinely predatory people that propagate this message because they know that sharing the true blackpill isn't conducive to profit and gaining influence. They've simply made a business decision and as a result they've inducted millions of would-be Redpillers into their own corruption of the Blackpill. Which to be frank is essentially just 'Redpill with Blackpill characteristics' or 'Redpill with a Blackpill facade'. It's shameful, really. But it's not surprising. One grift ends (The Classic Hamza-Tate-PUA Redpill), another, more shameless one takes it's place in order to absorb it's gullible and disaffected audience. This cycle will repeat until the end of time while we get scarred by the shrapnel form the war between the two parties we both hate.

Times change, but human nature never will and here we are witnessing the consequences. :feelskek:

Thank you all vey much for reading, I would absolutely love to hear your own opinions about this issue, dialogue and debate is a beautiful thing. Have a good one. :feelsYall:
 
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DNR, too long.
 
These creators like Clavicular, SyrianPsycho, Dillon Latham, Faceiq etc. are genuinely predatory people that propagate this message because they know that sharing the true blackpill isn't conducive to profit and gaining influence.
They remind me of frat bros who are just slightly autistic.
 
you are right to say that theres a limit on how much people can improve their looks

thats why i believe not everyone can become good looking or average just by looksmaxxing(like actually getting surgery and stuff not the useless bs)
 
'Muh, anyone can achieve anything if they just wok hard, if you're poor or ugly, you're a lazy fucking bastard who deserves it'
good post. this point in particular is in my opinion the worst one they seem to make, as if chads worked for their looks it and we just need to try harder
 
as if chads worked for their looks it and we just need to try harder
This is probably most egregious for eye colour, you have zero control over it. Perhaps I'm just salty that nobody has told me that I have nice eyes. :feelskek:
 
good post. this point in particular is in my opinion the worst one they seem to make, as if chads worked for their looks it and we just need to try harder
“Just gua sha bro” “just take more potassium to debloat bro” “just ice your face bro” “just pay thousands of dollars for surgeries bro, you’ll ascend!”
 
This is probably most egregious for eye colour, you have zero control over it. Perhaps I'm just salty that nobody has told me that I have nice eyes. :feelskek:
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Surely they aren't that bad? :feelskek:
 
good thread, looksmaxxing is inherently redpilled
 
Looksmaxxers are the new PUAs
 
good thread, looksmaxxing is inherently redpilled
The man himself, the former king of looksmax.org.

He's gonna fucking hate me for calling him that. :feelskek:
 
Looksmaxxers are the new PUAs
It's like I said here:
It's shameful, really. But it's not surprising. One grift ends (The Classic Hamza-Tate-PUA Redpill), another, more shameless one takes it's place in order to absorb it's gullible and disaffected audience. This cycle will repeat until the end of time while we get scarred by the shrapnel form the war between the two parties we both hate.
 
The man himself, the former king of looksmax.org.

He's gonna fucking hate me for calling him that. :feelskek:
i dont associate myself with that normiefag forum anymore, i only go on there for a few minutes every other day now.
 
Every pill is a different flavor red or blue pill because all these pills are root in foid-worshipping.
 
Every pill is a different flavor red or blue pill because all these pills are root in foid-worshipping.
What are you then? I see your signature says 'post-Blackpill' that's very very interesting.
 
What are you then? I see your signature says 'post-Blackpill' that's very very interesting.
Admittedly, this signature is very old and back then I had no idea how foid-worshipping blackpillers were.
 
Blackpill on tiktok is watered down at best.
 
Sadly, they didn't pin this. Maybe next time. :feelskek:
 
use the products or get the surgeries that they promote on their £30-a-month course.
I doubt they promote surgery, or people would quickly realize that their products and "courses" are shams. surgery is more or less the only real looksmaxxing past puberty and so many of those influencers either got a lucky puberty or hardmaxxed.
the products and methods are absolute shams and memes, and will probably end up doing more harm than good to children who would have turned out fine otherwise.
 
High iq. Darkredpilll term sounds right.
 
I agree on that. All these looksmaxxers and WW are just Redpillers in denial
 
The Tiktok "blackpill" is a trend, so it needs to consist of something that everyone can like. Our blackpill is made from our experience and can be understood by us, but not by the average normie. So that's why by trying to bring it to a wider audience, they are turning it in something else, something that is relatable to foids and normies too. I know one dude IRL who constantly reposts this "blackpill" content on socials, he's a HTN highschooler who sees it as a relatable meme and wants to looksmaxx for the sake of it, not to get laid. That's the target audience of the tiktok trend, which is nothing but a normified version of looksmaxxing rebranded as blackpill, when in truth it has little to do with the redpill as well.
 
Every day Im more and more happy that I dont use those apps
 
Another thing is that they do LooksMaxx to please women; they don't question anything. This reality where we are at their mercy, instead of proposing a system where women are in the background and have no power whatsoever.
 
It still hurts to think that there is genuinely nothing I can do to help my situation its actually ovER
high iq thread Ill be saving this one
 
Never used tiktok

And will never use
 
Another thing is that they do LooksMaxx to please women; they don't question anything. This reality where we are at their mercy, instead of proposing a system where women are in the background and have no power whatsoever.
Some people do looksmax to fortify their chances of getting a job lmao
 
Muh, anyone can achieve anything if they just work hard, if you're poor or ugly, you're a lazy fucking bastard who deserves it
It's unbelievable how can the majority of people still believe this.
 
Some people do looksmax to fortify their chances of getting a job lmao
I didn't know that, but it makes sense; even to get a job these days you have to be good-looking
 
I didn't know that, but it makes sense; even to get a job these days you have to be good-looking
I think there were studies done that showed that less-qualified candidates will outperform more suitable candidates if they're perceived as more attractive.
 
I think there were studies done that showed that less-qualified candidates will outperform more suitable candidates if they're perceived as more attractive.
For everything you have to be goodlooking wtf
 
The “Blackpill” on TikTok is obviously a trend by a bunch of larping individuals. I doubt many of them deep dive or really even want to dive deep, into the blackpill and how it really works. I wonder how long this trend on the “blackpill” (looksmaxxing) will go on for. I started seeing many of these types of edits around the end of 2023 to the beginning of 2024. This is as well as the time the average joes, started invading blackpilled channels and their comment sections on youtube.
 
Yes I have always noticed that, .org teenagers can’t tell them difference.
 
Water is wet for >120 iq
 
most ppl on this forum(and incels in general) arent true sub5s just normies who arent NT. looksmaxxing is mostly bs tho but hardmaxxing i believe can ascend most ppl here
 
It's funny really, the Tiktok/Looksmax.org Blackpill appears to be more of a 'dark redpill' than the authentic scientific Blackpill you'd see over here (and on the forum across the street).

And I think part of the reason why this is is because if you understand the Blackpill, you'd realise that 'looksmaxxing' is futile for people like us, no matter how hard you try to looksmax, you'll inexorably hit a glass ceiling due to your genetics from which point you'll no longer be able to improve any further. For some, this glass ceiling is below the PSL threshold they need for ascension, therefore they're considered 'trucels'. And even people that do benefit from looksmaxxing are lucky if the even go up 1 point in the PSL scale. (I hate what the PSL scale has become, paying for face ratings is exploitation of mentally-ill people's self-hatred and stupidity).

But of course, the majority of Tiktok promoters of the Blackpill are these looksmaxxers who want to sell the idea that damn near anyone can surge by three, even four points on the PSL scale if they just follow the methods, use the products or get the surgeries that they promote on their £30-a-month course. And this belief is ironically a diluted yet integral Redpill tenet: 'Muh, anyone can achieve anything if they just work hard, if you're poor or ugly, you're a lazy fucking bastard who deserves it' These are Margaret Thatcher levels of delusion and in fact, actual libertarian talking points.

Now obviously they don't actually believe this themselves , they just know that promoting 'thumb-pulling' or 'mewing' as a quick, simple, catch-all solution to people's insecurities is amazing marketing, humans are psychologically primed to cling to belief i this sort of illogical bullshit simply just because it tells them that 'everything's going to be okay' even if logically it isn't (The brain has evolved to do that in order to stop people giving up on life), it's exactly the same Machiavellian manipulation technique and psychological phenomenon that lead to the birth of religion, people would rather accept blatant logical fallacies than face the darkness of their reality, some may call that 'taking the Bluepill'.

You could even argue that the only reason why some of us actually came to accept the true, logically accurate and science-backed form of the Blackpill was because it was the only 'pill' (or belief system) that told us that our failures weren't our fault and are the result of factor outside of our control. As well as the fact that we the lived experience of experiencing the implications of the Blackpill in our daily lives. This last point would definitely be an interesting avenue to explore further, I intend to make a more detailed, in depth thread about this at some point in the future.

These creators like Clavicular, SyrianPsycho, Dillon Latham, Faceiq etc. are genuinely predatory people that propagate this message because they know that sharing the true blackpill isn't conducive to profit and gaining influence. They've simply made a business decision and as a result they've inducted millions of would-be Redpillers into their own corruption of the Blackpill. Which to be frank is essentially just 'Redpill with Blackpill characteristics' or 'Redpill with a Blackpill facade'. It's shameful, really. But it's not surprising. One grift ends (The Classic Hamza-Tate-PUA Redpill), another, more shameless one takes it's place in order to absorb it's gullible and disaffected audience. This cycle will repeat until the end of time while we get scarred by the shrapnel form the war between the two parties we both hate.

Times change, but human nature never will and here we are witnessing the consequences. :feelskek:

Thank you all vey much for reading, I would absolutely love to hear your own opinions about this issue, dialogue and debate is a beautiful thing. Have a good one. :feelsYall:
You can't change your bones, it's that simple.
 

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