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this is a bit embarrassing but can some iqcel teach me how to study in college? Like any advice would be helpful I am failing a lot of classes

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Title basically.
my retarded ass decided to major in math and data science and I am stuck in second year and can't back out. Till my high school i could get away with decent grades by just memorizing questions from practice tests . But it's not helping me in uni.
Data science I can manage a bit .

So how do I even begin to learn to study?
Do I just keep re reading textbooks over and over again?
My proffs are useless at teaching and YouTube doesn't really cover much of my syllabus properly so?

Any help would be necessary.

I am usually given lecture notes and problem sets by my proffs and the exams are set on them and even then i fail cuz I don't know how to study.

Please help
 
Studying practice questions is the best way to be familiar with the content.
 
Studying practice questions is the best way to be familiar with the content.
yeah but like how do I begin with that? till high school i could just memorize the practice questions as is because my retarded school used to literally pick up the question word by word without changing a value in exams but obviously situation has changed in college.

So if I have zero knowledge about a topic how do I begin to solve the practice problems?
 
If it's theory: read and write, math based: keep practicing, if it's practical keep discussing with AI till you come up with something
 
yeah but like how do I begin with that? till high school i could just memorize the practice questions as is because my retarded school used to literally pick up the question word by word without changing a value in exams but obviously situation has changed in college.

So if I have zero knowledge about a topic how do I begin to solve the practice problems?
Then study the topics. If you still can’t solve those questions, then look at solutions and make sure to understand the thought process behind them.
 
Then study the topics. If you still can’t solve those questions, then look at solutions and make sure to understand the thought process behind them.
i see
 
If it's theory: read and write, math based: keep practicing, if it's practical keep discussing with AI till you come up with something
chatgptmaxxing even though I don't trust ai too much
 
Studying practice questions is the best way to be familiar with the content.
I second this, study practice questions, see what you got wrong, learn how to do them, try similar question until you can consistently get them right and repeat process.
 
yeah but like how do I begin with that? till high school i could just memorize the practice questions as is because my retarded school used to literally pick up the question word by word without changing a value in exams but obviously situation has changed in college.

So if I have zero knowledge about a topic how do I begin to solve the practice problems?
See if there's youtube vids on it. I can't learn from lectures so I had to teach myself how to do math this way in college. There might also be already made study guides on it too. I'm assuming they test based off of specific sections from the book so I would try googling based off of those sections.
 
chatgptmaxxing even though I don't trust ai too much
surprisingly thats how i studied for one of my exams a few weeks ago and i got a decent grade on it
 
I just read the book until it clicked and when it didn't I found another book.
 
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Just memorize and comprehend. It's not rocket science, unless you actually study rocket science.
 
I dropped out
 
I just read the book until it clicked and when it didn't I found another book.
okay this might sound retarded so I am sorry if it actually is but how exactly do I read a college textbook? most of them are very dense...

do I just pick up and start reading them ? I don't understand the books as I read them I might as well being reading latin
 
oh u would learn from yt?
See if there's youtube vids on it. I can't learn from lectures so I had to teach myself how to do math this way in college. There might also be already made study guides on it too. I'm assuming they test based off of specific sections from the book so I would try googling based off of those sections.
 
oh u would learn from yt?
Yeah. Usually the youtube people did a good job of explaining stuff straight forward & imply instead of just droning on, so it made it easier
 
Title basically.
my retarded ass decided to major in math and data science and I am stuck in second year and can't back out. Till my high school i could get away with decent grades by just memorizing questions from practice tests . But it's not helping me in uni.
Data science I can manage a bit .

So how do I even begin to learn to study?
Do I just keep re reading textbooks over and over again?
My proffs are useless at teaching and YouTube doesn't really cover much of my syllabus properly so?

Any help would be necessary.

I am usually given lecture notes and problem sets by my proffs and the exams are set on them and even then i fail cuz I don't know how to study.

Please help
Lear how tears are written
 
I personally know someone who has been struggling with calculus and still hasn’t graduated after years.
 
I personally know someone who has been struggling with calculus and still hasn’t graduated after years.
me in two yrs
 
Look, this is how I study, for math (currently tkaing multivariable calculus) (but also for any subject)
After writing down the notes, I summarize what I learnt about
Then, I read over the notes, try to understand the concept of what you are learning, then after vocabulary, and then after do any examples the teacher gave you. Once you understand this 100%, it's time for homework and practice problems.
In your case, since your teachers are bad, it is a bit different. You're not supposed to just read the textbook, you are supposed to write down what you learn and the examples and repeat them until you understand, same with notes, rewrite every note you are given, at least that's how I learnt
 
Look, this is how I study, for math (currently tkaing multivariable calculus) (but also for any subject)
After writing down the notes, I summarize what I learnt about
Then, I read over the notes, try to understand the concept of what you are learning, then after vocabulary, and then after do any examples the teacher gave you. Once you understand this 100%, it's time for homework and practice problems.
In your case, since your teachers are bad, it is a bit different. You're not supposed to just read the textbook, you are supposed to write down what you learn and the examples and repeat them until you understand, same with notes, rewrite every note you are given, at least that's how I learnt
hey brocel thank u so much for such a detailed answer just one question -
so say I sit down to study and have the notes with me in front of me as provided by teacher. I don't understand them currently as the lecture was total shit. What is my very first step? Do i just start reading them notes and trying to summarise them to the best of my ability?
 
Practice more, you can't memorize math
 
hey brocel thank u so much for such a detailed answer just one question -
so say I sit down to study and have the notes with me in front of me as provided by teacher. I don't understand them currently as the lecture was total shit. What is my very first step? Do i just start reading them notes and trying to summarise them to the best of my ability?
Well, it depends, what don't you understand, the notes or the concept you learnt? If you walk out a lecture without being able to say "Hmm, okay I understand this a little", then you won't be able to understand the notes either. It doesn't mean you'll be able to do every problem, just you have an understanding what is going on. If you don't know either, In that case, there is three options I can think of 1) Visit the professor during office hours, schedule appointments if possible, have him clarify over his notes, 2) If your campus has free tutors, get them to help you as well. I know most campus near me have free tutors, or people willing to help. Then 3) Self-studying (The hardest one), search up youtube videos, get AI to help (I prefer Gemini), write down the notes from those videos, and hopefully it's just an issue with the professor and his notes and not you not being able to understand the subject. But if you still don't understand, do 1 or 2. Also, I don't know what you are learning, but ask yourself, "What skills do I need for this?", when I took Calculus 1, I realized Calculus wasn't the problem, but my algebraic skills were sort of poor, so I had to improve that, which helped me improve in calculus. Sometimes the subject isn't the problem itself, it's the background you have of the subject.
 
Idk how college is in other countries but in romania we usually cheat using special headphones that are just a magnet you shove up your ear. Or yk other more conventional ways of cheating, idk anyone who went thru college without cheating
 
Idk how college is in other countries but in romania we usually cheat using special headphones that are just a magnet you shove up your ear. Or yk other more conventional ways of cheating, idk anyone who went thru college without cheating
damn that absolutely insane lol
 
Well, it depends, what don't you understand, the notes or the concept you learnt? If you walk out a lecture without being able to say "Hmm, okay I understand this a little", then you won't be able to understand the notes either. It doesn't mean you'll be able to do every problem, just you have an understanding what is going on. If you don't know either, In that case, there is three options I can think of 1) Visit the professor during office hours, schedule appointments if possible, have him clarify over his notes, 2) If your campus has free tutors, get them to help you as well. I know most campus near me have free tutors, or people willing to help. Then 3) Self-studying (The hardest one), search up youtube videos, get AI to help (I prefer Gemini), write down the notes from those videos, and hopefully it's just an issue with the professor and his notes and not you not being able to understand the subject. But if you still don't understand, do 1 or 2. Also, I don't know what you are learning, but ask yourself, "What skills do I need for this?", when I took Calculus 1, I realized Calculus wasn't the problem, but my algebraic skills were sort of poor, so I had to improve that, which helped me improve in calculus. Sometimes the subject isn't the problem itself, it's the background you have of the subject.
thanks once again yes I agree to math is so sequential sometimes in the sense that say u if u don't understand group theory then u would not be able to get ring theory. so it's important to focus on the prerequisites
 
Title basically.
my retarded ass decided to major in math and data science and I am stuck in second year and can't back out. Till my high school i could get away with decent grades by just memorizing questions from practice tests . But it's not helping me in uni.
Data science I can manage a bit .

So how do I even begin to learn to study?
Do I just keep re reading textbooks over and over again?
My proffs are useless at teaching and YouTube doesn't really cover much of my syllabus properly so?

Any help would be necessary.

I am usually given lecture notes and problem sets by my proffs and the exams are set on them and even then i fail cuz I don't know how to study.

Please help
Fellow mathcel.

The way I evolved to do it is to find the connections between the things by myself. If you care enough I can elaborate
 
Fellow mathcel.

The way I evolved to do it is to find the connections between the things by myself. If you care enough I can elaborate
yes please
 
yes please
Its the same old passive learning (reading, listening to lecture, barely engaging with the content) vs active learning (deconstructing theorems, pondering about each hypothesis and why each is necessary, connecting the various results together, trying to formulate possible
relations between objects even if they're not explained to you explicitly, looking at mathematical objects from different perspectives)

I'll give you a couple of examples (I'm a 2nd year undergrad):

My Geometry B exam comprised a part of Linear Algebra Addendums (Jordan's Standard Form for matrices), a part on Projective Geometry, and a part on Theory of Hypersurfaces viewed in Projective, Affine and Euclidean Spaces. I had a professor for the first 2 and a professor for the latter.

The first professor did his theory of Jordan through pure Linear Algebra, which was painful to me because I couldn't quite understand where did things spawn from, but I got an intuition that everything could be viewed as a Module over a Principle Ideal Domain and then verified it and I was like "it all makes sense now" (the theorems were all easier to understand too but I had to study it also the linear algebra way and it wasn't so bad after the realization). What I did was I had an intuition, tried to verify it (through the use of books and AI, too), and effectively looked at a mathematical theory formulated through Linear Algebra from a purely Algebraic point of view.

Another example: studying projective geometry, I came across the notion of "projecting cone" (or whatever it is called in English) and couldn't figure out its use in any way...

Then, reflecting about conics and quadrics, I realized that any non degenerate hypersurface that exists in a projective space can be projected from a subspace that does not intersect the space the hypersurface exists in, to form a degenerate hypersurface, and that subspace is the singular point of the hypersurface and vice versa, given a degenerate hypersurface you can section it with subspaces that do not intersect the vertex (to keep the rank constant) and eventually obtain a non degenerate hypersurface (again, excuse me if the terminology is wrong but I'm mostly directly translating from Italian).
This represents an instance of looking at mathematical objects that seemingly have nothing to do with each other and finding a connection between the two.

The perk of doing such things is that once you do reach the realization, you are never forgetting the knowledge you attained, but you HAVE to have the intuitions ON YOUR OWN and only use the appropriate tools to verify. For this, you need to sit down, breathe deeply, and ponder about the implications and all that. You probably got it by now.

Bonus points if you go to follow lectures, the professor asks a question and you take your time to find an answer.
Once my Algebra B (Ring and Field and Module theory) professor asked a question about an invertible element of a field such as Z/mZ[x]. I went further and tried to prove what an invertible element might look like, and produced a 5 pages mini-pseudo-paper proving the result. It was something that one could consider "research", it was fun as fuck, I dumped like 50 hours in a week and that's what got me trying to aim for a PhD to do math research.


Conclusion: use your intuition, explain to yourself the notions in a simplified matter that retains all the info (eg Cayley-Hamilton's theorem asserts that this does that, instead of the usual Let this be etc etc therefore etc etc
, I hope it is clear), be curious and investigate connections and what happens when hypothesis are taken away in the formulations of theorems, and have fun. If you have any questions ask away no problem. Remember this thing, mathematics is one. People divide it into courses for convenience, but it's all connected.
 
Its the same old passive learning (reading, listening to lecture, barely engaging with the content) vs active learning (deconstructing theorems, pondering about each hypothesis and why each is necessary, connecting the various results together, trying to formulate possible
relations between objects even if they're not explained to you explicitly, looking at mathematical objects from different perspectives)

I'll give you a couple of examples (I'm a 2nd year undergrad):

My Geometry B exam comprised a part of Linear Algebra Addendums (Jordan's Standard Form for matrices), a part on Projective Geometry, and a part on Theory of Hypersurfaces viewed in Projective, Affine and Euclidean Spaces. I had a professor for the first 2 and a professor for the latter.

The first professor did his theory of Jordan through pure Linear Algebra, which was painful to me because I couldn't quite understand where did things spawn from, but I got an intuition that everything could be viewed as a Module over a Principle Ideal Domain and then verified it and I was like "it all makes sense now" (the theorems were all easier to understand too but I had to study it also the linear algebra way and it wasn't so bad after the realization). What I did was I had an intuition, tried to verify it (through the use of books and AI, too), and effectively looked at a mathematical theory formulated through Linear Algebra from a purely Algebraic point of view.

Another example: studying projective geometry, I came across the notion of "projecting cone" (or whatever it is called in English) and couldn't figure out its use in any way...

Then, reflecting about conics and quadrics, I realized that any non degenerate hypersurface that exists in a projective space can be projected from a subspace that does not intersect the space the hypersurface exists in, to form a degenerate hypersurface, and that subspace is the singular point of the hypersurface and vice versa, given a degenerate hypersurface you can section it with subspaces that do not intersect the vertex (to keep the rank constant) and eventually obtain a non degenerate hypersurface (again, excuse me if the terminology is wrong but I'm mostly directly translating from Italian).
This represents an instance of looking at mathematical objects that seemingly have nothing to do with each other and finding a connection between the two.

The perk of doing such things is that once you do reach the realization, you are never forgetting the knowledge you attained, but you HAVE to have the intuitions ON YOUR OWN and only use the appropriate tools to verify. For this, you need to sit down, breathe deeply, and ponder about the implications and all that. You probably got it by now.

Bonus points if you go to follow lectures, the professor asks a question and you take your time to find an answer.
Once my Algebra B (Ring and Field and Module theory) professor asked a question about an invertible element of a field such as Z/mZ[x]. I went further and tried to prove what an invertible element might look like, and produced a 5 pages mini-pseudo-paper proving the result. It was something that one could consider "research", it was fun as fuck, I dumped like 50 hours in a week and that's what got me trying to aim for a PhD to do math research.


Conclusion: use your intuition, explain to yourself the notions in a simplified matter that retains all the info (eg Cayley-Hamilton's theorem asserts that this does that, instead of the usual Let this be etc etc therefore etc etc
, I hope it is clear), be curious and investigate connections and what happens when hypothesis are taken away in the formulations of theorems, and have fun. If you have any questions ask away no problem. Remember this thing, mathematics is one. People divide it into courses for convenience, but it's all connected.
yeah that makes a load of sense tbh. Currently we are covering Real Analysis using rudin as an example and I feel the same that once i lean how to internationalise it to my intuition - then it wouldn't be as hard as it seems now.

Like a retarded bitch I was literally memorizing proofs especially the ones in linear algebra ex - the rank nullity theorum instead of paying attention on what it was trying to say

last question
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Say I have my lecture notes and my lecture slides and.my textbook with me do i just dive in and start reading them? seeing how most math textbooks and slides are super dense how do I read them to be able to master the content to such an extent that I develop the ability to make connections and get deep intuition about that topic?
 
yeah that makes a load of sense tbh. Currently we are covering Real Analysis using rudin as an example and I feel the same that once i lean how to internationalise it to my intuition - then it wouldn't be as hard as it seems now.

Like a retarded bitch I was literally memorizing proofs especially the ones in linear algebra ex - the rank nullity theorum instead of paying attention on what it was trying to say

last question
-
Say I have my lecture notes and my lecture slides and.my textbook with me do i just dive in and start reading them? seeing how most math textbooks and slides are super dense how do I read them to be able to master the content to such an extent that I develop the ability to make connections and get deep intuition about that topic?
I don't know man, just wing it. Do it enough and you'll eventually get there. Your professors have been neck-deep in the topic for 5-30 years of course they know the ins-and-outs (not all the time tho, sometimes you can see something that they themselves have never seen), you cannot master any one topic in a couple of months.

I'm painfully struck by perfectionism to a degree that it paralyzes me and I only study once fear and anxiety overcome the paralysis, so I can't help you on how to study bit by bit etc.

Just try to reformulate topics in an intuitive matter. Say, Jordan's Standard Form, to internalize you can think about it as the closest approximation to a diagonal matrix. As for the blocks, they represent the various portions of space that are enclosed in a way that they don't intersect with each other, and upon which the linear operator acts. Or for eigenvectors themselves, you can see them as the fixed points of a transformation of the space (Vectorial, projective, affine, euclidean...).

You do not magically become able to make these sorts of connections, you have to really try and boil it down to the essentials, without all the technical language. Of course the technical language is crucial, and you should strive to be precise in your speech and writing, but that comes after understanding the subject.
 
Also, don't just copywrite when taking down notes. When reading from a mathematics textbook, I'd advise to read through a paragraph/subparagraph/proof, try to recall what you read, and simplify it on paper. Then, go over to reread the original content and fill in any essential info you might have missed out on. You want to do this because not simply copywriting but engaging with the content and summarizing it is already a form of active learning.

Use post-its if you want to add in more explanations, I use them all the time because I can recover space even when there isn't a lot left (my writing is not as well organized as I wish it was), and they're great to distinguish information visually.

Be sure to write down your thoughts and the process of finding out about connections, because the act of writing physically slows you down and allows you more room for analysis, as well as cementing the thoughts (at least for a short while).

I prefer pen and paper over tech. I find that using pen and paper I can better recall the information.
 
Also, don't just copywrite when taking down notes. When reading from a mathematics textbook, I'd advise to read through a paragraph/subparagraph/proof, try to recall what you read, and simplify it on paper. Then, go over to reread the original content and fill in any essential info you might have missed out on. You want to do this because not simply copywriting but engaging with the content and summarizing it is already a form of active learning.

Use post-its if you want to add in more explanations, I use them all the time because I can recover space even when there isn't a lot left (my writing is not as well organized as I wish it was), and they're great to distinguish information visually.

Be sure to write down your thoughts and the process of finding out about connections, because the act of writing physically slows you down and allows you more room for analysis, as well as cementing the thoughts (at least for a short while).

I prefer pen and paper over tech. I find that using pen and paper I can better recall the information.
thank you so much bro cel u have given me a lot of helpful advice especially with the paraphrasing and the connections advice !
 
thank you so much bro cel u have given me a lot of helpful advice especially with the paraphrasing and the connections advice !
For proofs, you're gonna encounter some that are 2 pages long inevitably. My advice is to break them down into phases (building a space, defining a particular series, applying an axiom like axiom of choice or completeness, etc) and try to work out the logic, with the same methodologies that I've talked about earlier.

Almost all the proofs are best understood non linearly, since they are first demonstrated non linearly. You go from X and want to reach Y, so you physically write down the beginning and end, and then you work out the logic both descending to Y and ascending to X. The book "How to understand Abstract Algebra" uses a couple of examples for this and I advise you to read it cuz it's cool. Also definitely try to read a logic introductory book because it's fundamental to understand how math works and how things are formulated.

Best of luck brocel!
 
For proofs, you're gonna encounter some that are 2 pages long inevitably. My advice is to break them down into phases (building a space, defining a particular series, applying an axiom like axiom of choice or completeness, etc) and try to work out the logic, with the same methodologies that I've talked about earlier.

Almost all the proofs are best understood non linearly, since they are first demonstrated non linearly. You go from X and want to reach Y, so you physically write down the beginning and end, and then you work out the logic both descending to Y and ascending to X. The book "How to understand Abstract Algebra" uses a couple of examples for this and I advise you to read it cuz it's cool. Also definitely try to read a logic introductory book because it's fundamental to understand how math works and how things are formulated.

Best of luck brocel!
:feelsaww:
 
Ask an AI to make practice questions/tasks that you then do, repeat until it sits properly, maybe ask it for a summary and examples if you don't get it. If that doesn't help then it's probably over anyways
 
You can try to make your entire notes easier and shorter

You can use AI for this if you don't have time or will to do it yourself

If you struggle don't hesitate to spend time reading it again and again
 
Ask an AI to make practice questions/tasks that you then do, repeat until it sits properly, maybe ask it for a summary and examples if you don't get it. If that doesn't help then it's probably over anyways

You can try to make your entire notes easier and shorter

You can use AI for this if you don't have time or will to do it yourself

If you struggle don't hesitate to spend time reading it again and again
yes I m usually very suspicious of ai but I guess it's time to try it out
 
Title basically.
my retarded ass decided to major in math and data science and I am stuck in second year and can't back out. Till my high school i could get away with decent grades by just memorizing questions from practice tests . But it's not helping me in uni.
Data science I can manage a bit .

So how do I even begin to learn to study?
Do I just keep re reading textbooks over and over again?
My proffs are useless at teaching and YouTube doesn't really cover much of my syllabus properly so?

Any help would be necessary.

I am usually given lecture notes and problem sets by my proffs and the exams are set on them and even then i fail cuz I don't know how to study.

Please help


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