It's Over There is nothing to look forward to as an incel anymore at this point.

[Incelius Savage]

Back then in the 2010’s we had a ton of shit to look forward to.

- becoming a famous social media influencer
- becoming a famous tik toker
- becoming an actor
- getting a girlfriend
- becoming a porn star
- becoming successful
- traveling the world
- following our passion
- having a group of friends


Now we’re coming to terms with the blackpill and it’s hitting us hard.

- All women are chad only sluts
- only the tops dogs who started early and or the new top dogs are the only people who can get mega famous.
- tiktok hype is over
- can’t become an actor when you’re not super attractive or had actor parents who got you into acting when you were younger
- our dicks are too small and we dont have enough fans to become porn stars
- we will be stuck at a 9-5
- you can’t travel the world unless you had rich parents growing up or have a successful job that gives you a lot of free time.


There was just so much to look forward to in the 2010’s that just fueled my life. But now everything has a roadblock. It’s a hurdle that’s impossible to overcome. This isn’t a world for truecels anymore.


Yet most of you will cope with “i need to buy me copes” like really?? Will that truly make you happy playing some video games while your family members or people you know who are more attractive than you are living 10x better than you and you’re a nobody? Is that a life worth living? It’s not.


Now we have to focus on building our community with other incels who we can’t relate to because we all have different stories.

 

[allDead]

You're looking at it all wrong. Nothing will make us "truly happy". We're beyond that. Copes are all we've got. Anybody aiming for "true happiness" in today's world is a goddamned fool; all I want is a break.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

foids are just shallow, I've accepted it and you should too

 

[WizardofSoda]

Travelling is a big cope unless you are a Chad. My normies friends tried travelling for years and got sick of every place they went all the girls were Chad only, never once did any of them have sex with or even date one woman from any country they travelled to. Now they don't travel anymore.

 

[Incelius Savage]

Travelling is a big cope unless you are a Chad. My normies friends tried travelling for years and got sick of every place they went all the girls were Chad only, never once did any of them have sex with or even date one woman from any country they travelled to. Now they don't travel anymore.

Not everyone wants to travel for the sake of getting sex.

 

[riiceecracker]

foids are just shallow, I've accepted it and you should too

No nevER

 

[genma]

If your expectations were that you would become a famous actor or a famous tiktoker then your expectations were always unreasonable.

Furthermore, none of those fantasies would actually solve he real underlying problem that you face - that we all face. The real problem is how to be happy. You assume (wrongly) that fame and success will make you happy. You assume a girlfriend would make you happy. You're wrong. Every single day, beautiful, famous, successful people anhero because they are miserably sad.

There's no one magical path to happiness. I can't give you a guaranteed formula. There's no one-easy-step that you can take that gets you there.

I can tell you that the things you list are orthogonal to the problem - the real problem. And if you want to feel better, you need to focus on that problem rather than on these bullshit fantasies about tiktok.

The real problem is: how to be happy

I can also tell you that if you were less well off than you actually are, you would look at a person who has what you have, and you would imagine, "if only I had that, I'd be happy." For example, I play video games and watch porn and eat pizza and drink beer. I am 100% certain that some poor incel in Bangladesh would see my life and think, "wow, if I could live a life of luxury and endless pleasure, I would be happy and never complain!!" But the truth is, I can fall into the same trap as you OP. I can have everything I have, and still fantasize about that one extra thing (a girlfriend for example).

This is not cope that I'm describing. Frankly, it's an idea that I have never seen expressed on this forum, or any incel form. We literally don't have a word for it. Fantasizing that one extra thing will make us happy - that's what I'm talking about.

One thing I do, and I'm not suggesting it's a panacea, is make an effort to take stock of what I do have, and be thankful for it. I'm thankful for video games. I'm thankful for food. I'm thankful that I can sleep (if you've ever experienced insomnia you know why that's a blessing).

 

[Incelius Savage]

If your expectations were that you would become a famous actor or a famous tiktoker then your expectations were always unreasonable.

Furthermore, none of those fantasies would actually solve he real underlying problem that you face - that we all face. The real problem is how to be happy. You assume (wrongly) that fame and success will make you happy. You assume a girlfriend would make you happy. You're wrong. Every single day, beautiful, famous, successful people anhero because they are miserably sad.

There's no one magical path to happiness. I can't give you a guaranteed formula. There's no one-easy-step that you can take that gets you there.

I can tell you that the things you list are orthogonal to the problem - the real problem. And if you want to feel better, you need to focus on that problem rather than on these bullshit fantasies about tiktok.

The real problem is: how to be happy

I can also tell you that if you were less well off than you actually are, you would look at a person who has what you have, and you would imagine, "if only I had that, I'd be happy." For example, I play video games and watch porn and eat pizza and drink beer. I am 100% certain that some poor incel in Bangladesh would see my life and think, "wow, if I could live a life of luxury and endless pleasure, I would be happy and never complain!!" But the truth is, I can fall into the same trap as you OP. I can have everything I have, and still fantasize about that one extra thing (a girlfriend for example).

This is not cope that I'm describing. Frankly, it's an idea that I have never seen expressed on this forum, or any incel form. We literally don't have a word for it. Fantasizing that one extra thing will make us happy - that's what I'm talking about.

One thing I do, and I'm not suggesting it's a panacea, is make an effort to take stock of what I do have, and be thankful for it. I'm thankful for video games. I'm thankful for food. I'm thankful that I can sleep (if you've ever experienced insomnia you know why that's a blessing).

I understand and i am ok with my situation. I’m not well off like you stated.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Not everyone wants to travel for the sake of getting sex.

Thats what one normie I know said he just enjoys travelling. He did travelling for years and I can only imagine how lame it is as a single male non-Chad. Finally he doesn't travel anymore even though he has the money he could go whenever he wants.

He even tried going with male normie friends on all guys trips. It sounds gay, and is gay.. and they would go to all the tourist spots and take each others pictures next to landmarks.

 

[Incelius Savage]

Thats what one normie I know said he just enjoys travelling. He did travelling for years and I can only imagine how lame it is as a single male non-Chad. Finally he doesn't travel anymore even though he has the money he could go whenever he wants.

He even tried going with male normie friends on all guys trips. It sounds gay, and is gay.. and they would go to all the tourist spots and take each others pictures next to landmarks.

Yeah traveling alone is just sad when you have no one to do it with like family or a gf

 

[WizardofSoda]

If your expectations were that you would become a famous actor or a famous tiktoker then your expectations were always unreasonable.

Furthermore, none of those fantasies would actually solve he real underlying problem that you face - that we all face. The real problem is how to be happy. You assume (wrongly) that fame and success will make you happy. You assume a girlfriend would make you happy. You're wrong. Every single day, beautiful, famous, successful people anhero because they are miserably sad.

There's no one magical path to happiness. I can't give you a guaranteed formula. There's no one-easy-step that you can take that gets you there.

I can tell you that the things you list are orthogonal to the problem - the real problem. And if you want to feel better, you need to focus on that problem rather than on these bullshit fantasies about tiktok.

The real problem is: how to be happy

I can also tell you that if you were less well off than you actually are, you would look at a person who has what you have, and you would imagine, "if only I had that, I'd be happy." For example, I play video games and watch porn and eat pizza and drink beer. I am 100% certain that some poor incel in Bangladesh would see my life and think, "wow, if I could live a life of luxury and endless pleasure, I would be happy and never complain!!" But the truth is, I can fall into the same trap as you OP. I can have everything I have, and still fantasize about that one extra thing (a girlfriend for example).

This is not cope that I'm describing. Frankly, it's an idea that I have never seen expressed on this forum, or any incel form. We literally don't have a word for it. Fantasizing that one extra thing will make us happy - that's what I'm talking about.

One thing I do, and I'm not suggesting it's a panacea, is make an effort to take stock of what I do have, and be thankful for it. I'm thankful for video games. I'm thankful for food. I'm thankful that I can sleep (if you've ever experienced insomnia you know why that's a blessing).

You should start a new thread about this. The answer to this question I realized is we aren't supposed to be happy all the time or even much of the time. Its just one emotion of many.

As incels we basically are never supposed to be happy.. we are the ugly villains in the stories. About the only time we are happy is seeing other people suffering.

 

[Incelius Savage]

You should start a new thread about this. The answer to this question I realized is we aren't supposed to be happy all the time or even much of the time. Its just one emotion of many.

As incels we basically are never supposed to be happy.. we are the ugly villains in the stories. About the only time we are happy is seeing other people suffering.

I am never happy. Been stuck in a house since 2013. I don’t crave happiness.

 

[WizardofSoda]

I am never happy. Been stuck in a house since 2013. I don’t crave happiness.

Our best years are behind us now. Forwards is immense pain and suffering to come, with no light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[Schizoidcel]

It feels like something happened from around 2007-2012 for me, all downhill from there since they introduced Iphones and all the other degenerate stuff that keep making matters worse. Games and other copes don't make my dopamine receptors fire like they use to and I have to finally face the pain.
I don't think I'd enjoy the tiktok hedonistic lifestyle for very long at this point either. It's another dopamine trap in the end, albeit one of the better ones.

I feel like I will have to leave this vessel soon, and I'm ok with it. I don't need much to be "content" thankfully.

 

[Knajjd]

I look forward to not being homeless. I spent one night on the cold streets and I don't want that again.

 

[bbwqs_v]

If your expectations were that you would become a famous actor or a famous tiktoker then your expectations were always unreasonable.

Furthermore, none of those fantasies would actually solve he real underlying problem that you face - that we all face. The real problem is how to be happy. You assume (wrongly) that fame and success will make you happy. You assume a girlfriend would make you happy. You're wrong. Every single day, beautiful, famous, successful people anhero because they are miserably sad.

There's no one magical path to happiness. I can't give you a guaranteed formula. There's no one-easy-step that you can take that gets you there.

I can tell you that the things you list are orthogonal to the problem - the real problem. And if you want to feel better, you need to focus on that problem rather than on these bullshit fantasies about tiktok.

The real problem is: how to be happy

I can also tell you that if you were less well off than you actually are, you would look at a person who has what you have, and you would imagine, "if only I had that, I'd be happy." For example, I play video games and watch porn and eat pizza and drink beer. I am 100% certain that some poor incel in Bangladesh would see my life and think, "wow, if I could live a life of luxury and endless pleasure, I would be happy and never complain!!" But the truth is, I can fall into the same trap as you OP. I can have everything I have, and still fantasize about that one extra thing (a girlfriend for example).

This is not cope that I'm describing. Frankly, it's an idea that I have never seen expressed on this forum, or any incel form. We literally don't have a word for it. Fantasizing that one extra thing will make us happy - that's what I'm talking about.

One thing I do, and I'm not suggesting it's a panacea, is make an effort to take stock of what I do have, and be thankful for it. I'm thankful for video games. I'm thankful for food. I'm thankful that I can sleep (if you've ever experienced insomnia you know why that's a blessing).

are you talking about the hedonistic treadmill? if yes, i think an answer to that is to seek fulfilment, as it’s stated in my signature. but i think incels are unable to find fulfilment, as being genetically unviable comes with a lot of barriers to finding fulfilment that many normies can find, and i think especially more so for autistic ppl

 

[Claude]

agreed

 

[erenyeager]

Back then in the 2010’s we had a ton of shit to look forward to.

- becoming a famous social media influencer
- becoming a famous tik toker
- becoming an actor
- getting a girlfriend
- becoming a porn star
- becoming successful
- traveling the world
- following our passion
- having a group of friends


Now we’re coming to terms with the blackpill and it’s hitting us hard.

- All women are chad only sluts
- only the tops dogs who started early and or the new top dogs are the only people who can get mega famous.
- tiktok hype is over
- can’t become an actor when you’re not super attractive or had actor parents who got you into acting when you were younger
- our dicks are too small and we dont have enough fans to become porn stars
- we will be stuck at a 9-5
- you can’t travel the world unless you had rich parents growing up or have a successful job that gives you a lot of free time.


There was just so much to look forward to in the 2010’s that just fueled my life. But now everything has a roadblock. It’s a hurdle that’s impossible to overcome. This isn’t a world for truecels anymore.


Yet most of you will cope with “i need to buy me copes” like really?? Will that truly make you happy playing some video games while your family members or people you know who are more attractive than you are living 10x better than you and you’re a nobody? Is that a life worth living? It’s not.


Now we have to focus on building our community with other incels who we can’t relate to because we all have different stories.

And most of those cels are trolls and you really are alone. Now this post hits harf

 

[genma]

are you talking about the hedonistic treadmill?

Sort of. But, it's less a treadmill that I'm describing and more just "looking up"

The incel in Bangladesh that I described isn't really on a hedonistic treadmill. He has few comforts. But he would look at me with my beer, pizza, vidya, and porn and he would imagine that he had these things, he would be happy.

But I'm living proof that isn't true - well, it isn't necessarily true.

There are people who have enough money to get on an endless treadmill of hedonism. And I agree with you that they aren't necessarily happy either. But what I'm describing is just the assumption that "one more thing" is all you need to be happy.

i think an answer to that is to seek fulfilment, as it’s stated in my signature.

Those are wise words. I like it.

but i think incels are unable to find fulfilment, as being genetically unviable comes with a lot of barriers to finding fulfilment that many normies can find, and i think especially more so for autistic ppl

Could be. The drive to be accepted by a woman is primal, and maybe never achieving that dooms a person to unhappiness.

Of course on the flip side, actually getting a woman is often a trap. Just go look at any MGTOW forum and read the horror stories. The youtuber Terrance Pop is a good example. He was "serving his country" deployed to a war zone when his wife cheated on him, filed for divorce, sold all his stuff and ran up credit card debt, and then the coup de grace (just to prove how psychopathic foids are) she had his dog put to sleep.

...but he had sex. Would you change places with him? I wouldn't.

All this to say, I don't believe that getting "one more thing" is going to make me happy. Doesn't matter what that one thing is.