Discussion There is no point in blaming women for our inceldom/the state of society

[fullofchagrin]

I previously made a thread about this, I will go a little bit more into detail on my reasoning here. If you disagree with anything I say, please point it out.

Anyway, let me explain:


Even if women started to sympathize with us and marry us, they would still not love us. Women don't love the same way as men do and that's a stone cold fact. Furthermore, if a woman were to get into a relationship with a man out of pity, she would inevitably end up hating him much more than she did before, even if she did her best to be tolerant. That's just the way they are.

I think it'd be comparable to blame a cat for playing with its prey before eating it. It's the way they are designed to function. You could say that it isn't the same for women, since they are intelligent, but... they aren't.


Women fall in love with men who can take care of them. As soon as a woman realizes that she doesn't need her partner, and that she can fend for herself, she starts to dislike him. That's why in society, in all kinds of civilizations, from the most civilized ones, to tribal cultures in africa, women have had their freedoms limited. In today's society, women have no reason to love a man, since they can work and earn a living for themselves. There is no honor/shame culture, so they literally have not a single reason to love a man.


Now, who should we blame? In random order:
chads (they do not have the excuse that women have- they are not fundamentally designed in a way that makes them want to have sex with as many women as possible. they do it purely because they can, purely out of degeneracy, to the harm of us)

nature/God (for creating cruelty and evil, for causing us to suffer, for making women the way they are, for designing us to need love from the opposite gender of our species, women, who despise us and don't want anything to do with us)

jews/globalists (for creating feminism, erasing traditional gender roles from society, spreading smug and obscenity, niggerizing the populace etc. as part of their global conspiracy to establish dominion over mankind)

simps (for being pathetic degenerates, bowing down to women and letting go of their morals and honor just in an attempt to get the touch of a woman)



I'm not saying that we should emphasize with (modern) women. They can all get raped for all I care, they do after all hate us and cause us torment. But blaming them for the state of things won't achieve anything, since even if they took our side, the biological hardwiring in their brains would work against them. Blame the jews (no offense to you @AtrociousCitizen, you're a good fren)

 

[Razielcel]

I blame my parents for making me.

 

[HotDogCel]

I blame my parents for making me.

 

[caineturbat2003]

Even if their nature doesn't allow them to fuck us or love us, they still contribute and fully support our downfall. They are just as responsible as the jew is. Tho you forgot to mention normies, those motherfuckers also play a crucial role in the current state of our society.

 

[Uncle Death]

I previously made a thread about this, I will go a little bit more into detail on my reasoning here. If you disagree with anything I say, please point it out.

Anyway, let me explain:


Even if women started to sympathize with us and marry us, they would still not love us. Women don't love the same way as men do and that's a stone cold fact. Furthermore, if a woman were to get into a relationship with a man out of pity, she would inevitably end up hating him much more than she did before, even if she did her best to be tolerant. That's just the way they are.

I think it'd be comparable to blame a cat for playing with its prey before eating it. It's the way they are designed to function. You could say that it isn't the same for women, since they are intelligent, but... they aren't.


Women fall in love with men who can take care of them. As soon as a woman realizes that she doesn't need her partner, and that she can fend for herself, she starts to dislike him. That's why in society, in all kinds of civilizations, from the most civilized ones, to tribal cultures in africa, women have had their freedoms limited. In today's society, women have no reason to love a man, since they can work and earn a living for themselves. There is no honor/shame culture, so they literally have not a single reason to love a man.


Now, who should we blame? In random order:
chads (they do not have the excuse that women have- they are not fundamentally designed in a way that makes them want to have sex with as many women as possible. they do it purely because they can, purely out of degeneracy, to the harm of us)

nature/God (for creating cruelty and evil, for causing us to suffer, for making women the way they are, for designing us to need love from the opposite gender of our species, women, who despise us and don't want anything to do with us)

jews/globalists (for creating feminism, erasing traditional gender roles from society, spreading smug and obscenity, niggerizing the populace etc. as part of their global conspiracy to establish dominion over mankind)

simps (for being pathetic degenerates, bowing down to women and letting go of their morals and honor just in an attempt to get the touch of a woman)



I'm not saying that we should emphasize with (modern) women. They can all get raped for all I care, they do after all hate us and cause us torment. But blaming them for the state of things won't achieve anything, since even if they took our side, the biological hardwiring in their brains would work against them. Blame the jews (no offense to you @AtrociousCitizen, you're a good fren)

I want to enslave woman not love them. Don’t CONFUSE ME WITH REST OF YOU MOMMY BREAST LOVER!!!

 

[Uncle Death]

Pathetic, making woman licking my feet is the best shit one could ever have and worship me like a god. Love is for pussy

 

[fullofchagrin]

Even if their nature doesn't allow them to fuck us or love us, they still contribute and fully support our downfall. They are just as responsible as the jew is. Tho you forgot to mention normies, those motherfuckers also play a crucial role in the current state of our society.

i wanted to mention them, but i was too mentally tired atp to type more (i have mild aphasia, makes it hard for me to form sentences) took me like 30 minutes to write this lol kek

 

[fullofchagrin]

Pathetic, making woman licking my feet is the best shit one could ever have and worship me like a god. Love is for pussy

 

[fullofchagrin]

Pathetic, making woman licking my feet is the best shit one could ever have and worship me like a god. Love is for pussy

Soak your feet in salty water put on a vr headset and modify a goat irl to look like a hot foid in vr, let the goat take care of the rest

 

[caineturbat2003]

i wanted to mention them, but i was too mentally tired atp to type more (i have mild aphasia, makes it hard for me to form sentences) took me like 30 minutes to write this lol kek

I can relate, all this LDARing has done some good damage on my mind. Years ago I could write like a shakespearean writer. Even my mental attention was 100 times better than now.

 

[SuperKanga.Belgrade]

 

[Uncle Death]

Soak your feet in salty water put on a vr headset and modify a goat irl to look like a hot foid in vr, let the goat take care of the rest

Too restrictive, I want flesh not some bunch of bugmen invention designed to turn me to a slave

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

I get what you're saying, but I think you're letting women off the hook too much.

 

[caineturbat2003]

Soak your feet in salty water put on a vr headset and modify a goat irl to look like a hot foid in vr, let the goat take care of the rest

Nigga, what the fuck

 

[fullofchagrin]

I can relate, all this LDARing has done some good damage on my mind. Years ago I could write like a shakespearean writer. Even my mental attention was 100 times better than now.

shit's brutal man, mine was caused by a failed attempt

 

[Uncle Death]

i wanted to mention them, but i was too mentally tired atp to type more (i have mild aphasia, makes it hard for me to form sentences) took me like 30 minutes to write this lol kek

It’s too late for me. I am annoyed of woman behavior and not just their action and natural inner self that they were born as, my only desires for love only possible in my fantasy. But I already acknowledge woman aren’t capable of it, so why bother trying to love or anything.

Doesn’t mean I stop trying getting laid though, I still want to fuck and backshot bitches

 

[fullofchagrin]

I get what you're saying, but I think you're letting women off the hook too much.

I'm not saying that they deserve no hate. They most definitely do. My point is that blaming them would not ever achieve anything since they can not make themselves love us even if they wanted to. But they definitely deserve hate for being evil whores and hating us. They can't do anything about their instincts and the way their feelings work, but they could at the very least not be cruel towards us.

 

[caineturbat2003]

It’s too late for me. I am annoyed by woman not just their action, my only desires for love only possible in my fantasy. But I already acknowledge woman aren’t capable of it, so why bother?

Foids are really a piece of work.

All this feels like a fucking cruel joke and the punchline is we have all these instincts and desires for love, meanwhile the person that is supposed to reciprocate it just simply can't, but instead hates us.

 

[fullofchagrin]

Doesn’t mean I stop trying getting laid though, I still want to fuck and backshot bitches

That would probably only make me feel worse. ''it's not the horniness jim it's the loneliness''

 

[AnApparentMyth]

W

shit's brutal man, mine was caused by a failed attempt

Wait, what happened?

 

[fullofchagrin]

Foids are really a piece of work.

All this feels like a fucking cruel joke and the punchline is we have all these instincts and desires for love, meanwhile the person that is supposed to reciprocate it just simply can't, but instead hates us.

Well they can in a natural environment, it's just that the satanic world we live in is specifically designed for them to not love us, and instead be degenerates

 

[caineturbat2003]

That would probably only make me feel worse. ''it's not the horniness jim it's the loneliness''

Yes, pretty much. Even if I were to somehow fuck a foid, if she weren't loyal to me, what's the point really?

 

[fullofchagrin]

W

Wait, what happened?

Attempted suicide, failed, left me with (mild) brain damage

 

[fullofchagrin]

Yes, pretty much. Even if I were to somehow fuck a foid, if she weren't loyal to me, what's the point really?

There is no point. It's ovER

 

[caineturbat2003]

Well they can in a natural environment, it's just that the satanic world we live in is specifically designed for them to not love us, and instead be degenerates

Nah, I think it goes way more deeper than just some psychological bullshit. It's just in their nature. I highly doubt foids even loved their husbands centuries ago. They just had less freedom.

 

[fullofchagrin]

Nah, I think it goes way more deeper than just some psychological bullshit. It's just in their nature. I highly doubt foids even loved their husbands centuries ago. They just had less freedom.

Well, my mother loves my father, and she has never as much as looked at another man. My father is about half a foot shorter than average, and the rest of his stats are average. So I know that that's not true.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

Attempted suicide, failed, left me with (mild) brain damage

That's horrible. I'm sorry that your a veggie now. That scared me too, when I attempted as well.

 

[fullofchagrin]

That's horrible. I'm sorry that your a veggie now. That scared me too, when I attempted as well.

Ah it's not that bad, it's just really inconveniencing. What's your story?

 

[AnApparentMyth]

Ah it's not that bad, it's just really inconveniencing. What's your story?

Attempted twice with a rope. I even remember exactly when and how. But IDK if it's worth it since it's a long story. But, both times I failed cause of SI kicking in. I couldn't do it, I just couldn't fall off the bench. I pushed and pushed but my legs scrambled every single time. I was younger to, like 15 and 17(?)

 

[fullofchagrin]

Attempted twice with a rope. I even remember exactly when and how. But IDK if it's worth it since it's a long story. But, both times I failed cause of SI kicking in. I couldn't do it, I just couldn't fall off the bench. I pushed and pushed but my legs scrambled every single time. I was younger to, like 15 and 17(?)

I was also 15 the only time I attempted. What's life like now, are you glad you didn't succeed?

 

[caineturbat2003]

Well, my mother loves my father, and she has never as much as looked at another man. My father is about half a foot shorter than average, and the rest of his stats are average. So I know that that's not true.

It could be explained due to the fact that your parents are Gen Xers and they don't know that much about online dating which is the main cause for the extreme hypergamy we are all experiencing since it's mostly just zoomers that use it. Foids can adapt when it comes to their sexuality so your mother in her time didn't have as much access as foids today when it comes to dating choices so probably she picked your father since he was the best man in her enviroment. Foids are not attracted to normies as they are with chad, while at the same time they don't feel disgusted by normies as they are with sub5 men, if that makes any sense to you.

It's a tough pill to swallow, I know. But you'll eventually come to this realization once you know more about foids.

 

[fullofchagrin]

It could be explained due to the fact that your parents are Gen Xers and they don't know that much about online dating which is the main cause for the extreme hypergamy we are all experiencing since it's mostly just zoomers that use it. Foids can adapt when it comes to their sexuality so your mother in her time didn't have as much access as foids today when it comes to dating choices so probably she picked your father since he was the best man in her enviroment. Foids are not attracted to normies as they are with chad, while at the same time they don't feel disgusted by normies as they are with sub5 men, if that makes any sense to you.

It's a tough pill to swallow, I know. But you'll eventually come to this realization once you know more about foids.

Am I misunderstanding you, because none of that negates my point? My mother is a faithful woman because she grew up in the right environment. The environment that existed before we existed as a species, the environment that we humans evolved in, the environment that's been the standard right up until modern times. We are the first (or second) generation in the history of mankind where monogamy is not the norm.

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

Women are just spoiled brats, since it’s no worse for them to be with an average man than it is for an average man to be with an average woman. They are spoiled and think they deserve a man way better than them.

I have always blamed average and below average women for not wanting me and I always will

 

[Enigmaz]

They're the gatekeepers of sex, so yes I'll blame them fully for my inceldom.

 

[caineturbat2003]

Am I misunderstanding you, because none of that negates my point? My mother is a faithful woman because she grew up in the right environment. The environment that existed before we existed as a species, the environment that we humans evolved in, the environment that's been the standard right up until modern times. We are the first (or second) generation in the history of mankind where monogamy is not the norm.

Deep inside of her if she saw a real chad, she would think of him each night. My point was that the enviroment simply did not allow her to fulfill her true desire, which is chad, so she picked for the best normie. Enviroment and genetics go hand in hand when it comes to shit like this.

Your point was foids can still feel naturally attracted to men and you brought up your mom loving your father and I was simply explaining why this happened. Even if (((society))) didn't brainwash foids to be sluts, they would have still ended up like this thanks to online dating. You have to understand their natural objective is to fuck chad and if they can't do that, they will cope it out by going for the best normie.

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

Even if their nature doesn't allow them to fuck us or love us, they still contribute and fully support our downfall. They are just as responsible as the jew is. Tho you forgot to mention normies, those motherfuckers also play a crucial role in the current state of our society.

Not true most foids weren't acting this way before (((they))) came in and introduced feminism. Normies are also a product of THEM. No one used to act like normies and modern foids do before (((they))) started influencing soyciety.
Also hello fellow Reverse FLash fan

 

[dead.ahead]

The real nuclear pill is that no matter how much you hate or defend women, they will never love you back. You were never seen as a sexual entity to them.

 

[dead.ahead]

This discussion is pointless.

 

[fullofchagrin]

Not true most foids weren't acting this way before (((they))) came in and introduced feminism. Normies are also a product of THEM. No one used to act like normies and modern foids do before (((they))) started influencing soyciety.
Also hello fellow Reverse FLash fan

EXACTLY. based gray

 

[fullofchagrin]

This discussion is pointless.

well, anything posted on this website is pointless by that logic.

 

[dead.ahead]

well, anything posted on this website is pointless by that logic.

Don’t use the word logic if you don’t know what it means.

 

[caineturbat2003]

Also hello fellow Reverse FLash fan

It's good to see our numbers are growing. RF is extremely underrated when it comes to inceldom. Check out this thread I've posted almost a year ago, you'll enjoy it.

Reverse Flash: Incel icon or not?

So basically he falls in love with this news reporter stacy. He confesses his love to her, but she rejects him and, as his last resort, tries to seduce her to see if that would work on her. She's creeped out and disgusted by his action that she runs away from this guy (pretty much what would...

incels.is

Not true most foids weren't acting this way before (((they))) came in and introduced feminism. Normies are also a product of THEM. No one used to act like normies and modern foids do before (((they))) started influencing soyciety.

Alright, so the reason why I blame normies for all of this is because they are known to be sheep. If they were more individualistic and had actually used their heads instead of behaving like sheep, the far right (and I mean actual far right, not the cuckservative type) would be far more popular than even in the 20s. And I know this because all the shit about the JQ isn't even properly hidden by the jews, A couple of google searches and connecting the dots can pretty much reveal the true nature of the jews and why shit that is currently happening simply happens.

If normfags were actual individuals, used their heads and didn't the accept the narrative like good little puppets, the jews today wouldn't be as powerful. The kikes don't even try to hide their actions because normies would simply just eat up the current narrative and question nothing.

As for foids, feminism and all that degenerate ideology that kikes were preaching was simply appealing to them. They didn't go through some indoctrination process when they were children, they infact grew up in traditional families. Foids are kikes' best allies when it comes to this shit. The jews knew that foids are by nature whores, so they simply exploited that against the West. Pretty soon it will come in the East as well, tho here it's already happening.

 

[manletcel1488]

Dnr

 

[dead.ahead]

Attraction isn’t something that you can change or influence. You are either born as a winner, or a loser. Loser doesn’t get to procreate and pass on his genes, while the winner does. How you treat a woman doesn’t matter, because you are still a loser, who will never pass on his genes. Even if it’s not women’s fault, the truth doesn’t change anything. She doesnt want your genes in her. She never will, because you are either born as a winner. And we are all losers of the genetic game that is life.

Nothing matters. This discussion is insignificant because the truth is already right in front of us. Yes, it’s in woman’s nature to seek out men she’s sexually attracted to. That’s hardly anything new. Whether you should blame her for her nature or not, or if she asked to be born with this nature or not, that is irrelevant. Because even if she didn’t choose, she is still under its influence. Their behavior doesn’t change regardless of the answer, and to be hung up over those semantics is just a waste of time.

Also mandatory request: stop worshipping bitches that will never, ever, fuck you, and want incels dead.

 

[fullofchagrin]

Attraction isn’t something that you can change or influence. You are either born as a winner, or a loser. Loser doesn’t get to procreate and pass on his genes, while the winner does. How you treat a woman doesn’t matter, because you are still a loser, who will never pass on his genes. Even if it’s not women’s fault, the truth doesn’t change anything. She doesnt want your genes in her. She never will, because you are either born as a winner. And we are all losers of the genetic game that is life.

Nothing matters. This discussion is insignificant because the truth is already right in front of us. Yes, it’s in woman’s nature to seek out men she’s sexually attracted to. That’s hardly anything new. Whether you should blame her for her nature or not, or if she asked to be born with this nature or not, that is irrelevant. Because even if she didn’t choose, she is still under its influence. Their behavior doesn’t change regardless of the answer, and to be hung up over those semantics is just a waste of time.

I don't think you understand the concept of conversing...

Also mandatory request: stop worshipping bitches that will never, ever, fuck you, and want incels dead.

i don't think any of us here do that

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

It's good to see our numbers are growing. RF is extremely underrated when it comes to inceldom. Check out this thread I've posted almost a year ago, you'll enjoy it.

Saw your thread and lol'd hard I never knew this about RF. The reason I chose RF was because how he was stuck in the past and full of hate. Truly #1 Incel Idol

As for foids, feminism and all that degenerate ideology that kikes were preaching was simply appealing to them. They didn't go through some indoctrination process when they were children, they infact grew up in traditional families. Foids are kikes' best allies when it comes to this shit. The jews knew that foids are by nature whores, so they simply exploited that against the West. Pretty soon it will come in the East as well, tho here it's already happening.

Yea, it is happening in the east too unfortunately though they are somewhat immune due to noooticing computing power easterns have (Schizos).
The funniest part is how trad kikes are and how they spread their commie/liberal ideology everywhere. I remember I accidentally stumbled into their neighbourhood omw to a Greek restaurant and the vibe their was so similar to the mideast some wear headscarves and the women all wear long modest clothing.

 

[dead.ahead]

I don't think you understand the concept of conversing...

i don't think any of us here do that

There is nothing to converse about. Your time is better spent “conversing” about flowers or the weather. Whether you vehemently defend the women for brownie goodboy points or not, at the end of the day, you and I are losers in life. Whether the bitch has made a conscious choice to be this way, or whether it’s in her nature to do so, defending women for it is pointless. You are naive.

 

[dead.ahead]

And do add to your little “who to hate list”.
If you must hate, which is pointless and only hurts you more, then hate all of those groups. Women and simps for obvious reasons, god for making you live in this biological prison, and Jews for destroying any hope of change.

 

[fullofchagrin]

There is nothing to converse about. Your time is better spent “conversing” about flowers or the weather. Whether you vehemently defend the women for brownie goodboy points or not, at the end of the day, you and I are losers in life. Whether the bitch has made a conscious choice to be this way, or whether it’s in her nature to do so, defending women for it is pointless. You are naive.

And do add to your little “who to hate list”.
If you must hate, which is pointless and only hurts you more, then hate all of those groups. Women and simps for obvious reasons, god for making you live in this biological prison, and Jews for destroying any hope of change.

brother do you have autism or are you trolling?

 

[dead.ahead]

brother do you have autism or are you trolling?

You are a fucking infiltrator retard. Go suck off chads cock while you are at it, you dumb nigger. Make sure to tell him that it’s not women’s fault they prefer him over us while you are at it. Goodbye.