Blackpill There are no "good" or "bad" Feminists

[Caesercel]

I've been wanting to say this for a while now. Not just on this forum but in general to everyone.

This thread was prompted by a news piece on my youtube feed saying that some jailed Iranian women's rights roastie has been awarded the Noble Peace price. One of the comments stated that this is real feminism that is needed in places like Iran. Even at the height of anti feminist movement in 2016 on youtube and social media post gamergate, the narrative made a distinction between the "good" feminists who fight for women's rights and the ones who take things too far. Words like "feminazi" and "4th wave feminism" were thrown around.

But this distinction is nothing but a farce. What we see as "feminazi" is just feminist ideology taken to its logical conclusion. If you actually believe in feminism then you can't take issue with these radical expressions of feminism, which are just an extension. There's no way you can cheer for activists fighting for sending girls to school in Pakistan while criticising activists who think that video games are sexist. To me people who do this sound like they know deep down that feminism is wrong but are too brainwashed by the hivemind to go all the way.

And as far as incels are concerned, all of them are enemies. Considering how incel goals conflict with their goals.

 

[PersonalityChad]

All forms of feminism are cancer

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Just look at what the founders of feminism have said and you will know immediately what kind of people they are. It’s nothing but a bunch of bitter man hating sexists.

 

[ZtarvationArmy]

But this distinction is nothing but a farce.

That's like saying proponents of public roads are equivalent to communists, or opposition to lynching blacks is the same as doling reparations.

 

[Caesercel]

That's like saying proponents of public roads are equivalent to communists, or opposition to lynching blacks is the same as doling reparations.

 

[Mortis]

It all needs to go.

 

[Immolator]

All forms of feminism are cancer

 

[Epedaphic]

Based post.

As a bluepilled child with a middle school education, I bought into the narrative like the “wage gap.” After spending 5 seconds in the workforce, I realized IF one existed, why it existed. Of course when I looked further into it, it didn’t actually exist. And I gradually came to learn that the opposite is true, that women are given an artificial leg up and reap many more monetary and other benefits from work than men do.

Everything feminism touts has turned out to be a lie similar to this, or has turned out to be a precursor not to “rights for women” (they already have had all the rights they need for centuries), but to marginalizing and dehumanizing men. And of course, starting with those on the bottom of the food chain.

Some quotes from the thread that I think are based:

And as far as incels are concerned, all of them are enemies.

they are all evil and want to kill us

All forms of feminism are cancer

 

[blackpillednigga]

feminism starts with basic stuff like wanting equal rights. but then they keep going until foids are rich while the rest are poor

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

Cuckservatives claim that feminism has gone too far, but they still cling on to their neocon 'patriotic' mindset which wants to bring Western feminism to the Middle East

They might be 'misogynists' by American standards, but internationally they are massive simps

Ultimately, their 'liberation' of foids in the Middle East would just lead to the same degeneration as in the West

 

[Caesercel]

Cuckservatives claim that feminism has gone too far, but they still cling on to their neocon 'patriotic' mindset which wants to bring Western feminism to the Middle East

This is why they never manage to actually conserve anything. Their acts are not grounded in the right ideals. Which makes them crypto progressives in a sense.

 

[REEject]

I love it when they say that feminism also cares about male rights and problems

 

[Glerforpus]

I guess it depends on your morals. If you don’t like women getting hurt (but being separated) then there are different types of feminism. But if you’re against women being equal at all then I guess feminisms all the same

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Just look at what the founders of feminism have said and you will know immediately what kind of people they are. It’s nothing but a bunch of bitter man hating sexists.

Many of them were very open about what they thought of and wanted for men. That they made it this far means much of the academic world accepted those kinds of people into their midst. Irredeemable scum.

 

[Caesercel]

I guess it depends on your morals. If you don’t like women getting hurt (but being separated) then there are different types of feminism. But if you’re against women being equal at all then I guess feminisms all the same

Its not about equality. If a man goes out to earn the income and the woman stays at home to raise kids and be loyal then that doesn't mean women are unequal. But even if that argument could be made then by that logic every institution with any heirarchy at all is unequal. Why just target patriarchy? They should allow generals to take orders from their soldiers.

 

[theautismcel]

only good feminism is no feminism

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

Based. The distinction between good and bad feminists is itself a fallacy. The motte-and-bailey fallacy.

"Good" feminists drive the narrative that feminism is good for everyone and that it fight for equality in issues where women are have "perceived disadvantages", like wage gap, rape statistics, violence against women, dating, etc. These disadvantages are of course fabricated through manipulation of statistics. Since they are moderate opinions they are easily supported and understood by the majority.

Meanwhile the "bad" feminists rise to power and are those who actually effect change, passing laws like feminicide, family laws, social support to women, oppression of men, affirmative action, etc. These are all radical changes that heavily benefit women at the expense of men.

Nobel Peace prize is a joke. USA has won the most prize even though it's a country that has always been at war.

 

[BoywithEarring]

water

 

[JudeoBiden]

The only good amount of feminism is zero. It was always a female supremacy movement, all the way back to the beginning. They didn't want the vote in order to be equal, they wanted the vote so that they could sick the state on men.

 

[based_meme]

Just look at what the founders of feminism have said and you will know immediately what kind of people they are. It’s nothing but a bunch of bitter man hating sexists.

High IQ.

Always look at the source when you want to understand the foundation of something, most especially an ideology.

 

[FakeFakecel]

it depends on your morals.

There are some places where women have genuinely less rights (Spoiler alert: it's not the west) If they're trying to get equal rights that's not an evil thing

Western feminism however...my opinions on it are too based to post here.

 

[ezio6]

So are male feminist