Theory Therapy is useless for treating inceldom

[MuddyBuddy]

I've slowly come to realize this not only from my own experience with therapy in the past but also watching others discuss their experiences. As well as professional discuss treating incels. The realization I've some to is that therapy in general can never work for exclusively male issues. What it essentially boils down to is trying to solve a male problem with a female solution. Therapy works great for women. If a woman complains about something and asks for help then she can expect to have everyone come to her aid. This does not work for men. If you are a man and ask for help, then in the eyes of society you have forfeited your right to receive help. The act of asking for mental aid as a man means you do not deserve aid.

That is the basic realization I've come to. Going to therapy to solve incel related issues is the worst possible thing you can do. Once you are pegged as an incel no one will take you seriously in any way other than as a potential threat. As incels we don't need to talk about our issues. We know what they are. We require immediate and direct action. That is the male solution to a male problem...ACTION. The action in question is simply LOVE . Women require material attainment in order to satisfy their vanity. It's clear this is provided to them in abundance in our current culture. Men require love to satisfy their sacrifices. This basic requirement is not met in the slightest. The current transaction between male and female societal obligations is so obscenely lopsided that I can't see how much longer the scales can remain like this before everyone and everything falls over.

 

[Potential Rapist]

I went to therapy for a couple of weeks and remember telling her I used to believe I was being gang stalked in the past (legit sign of paranoid schizophrenia) but she didn't care and just wanted to continue treating my "social anxiety" jfl

you are being gang stalked, we all are.

 

[MuddyBuddy]

They just want to study us. We're merely zoo animals to them.

 

[1TZ0VER]

Although not therapy I told a foid while drunk that autism is making me extremely lonely because I can't even interact with people properly.
I got told to put myself out there and be confident. I'm so fucking tired of hearing those words

 

[Justdone]

So we don’t need therapy we need sex education with love and connection ?

 

[NonNTsubhuman]

What is Therapy? Is it just a paid friend u can vent your problems onto?
And what advice do they even give when u come with inkwell problems?
Showers, haircuts etc?

 

[Cletus Longthing]

Water is wet

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Get a male therapist. Where I live you get a few testing session to see if you are compatible , think it was like 15 in total.

I suspect American therapists are so mentally ill + ideologically possessed that you are better off talking to a dog or a wall. But there are reaonable ones out there in other countries and having someone on your side who you can talk to on the regular eases the pain. Speaking from personal experience.

Gotta say, even from men outside of incel circles I have only ever negatives things about american mental health services. In germany, my experience has been mixed, meaning some of the experiences were good/helpful.

Leftist insanity is less prevailing, esp under people above ~25-30. Got a male therapist in that age range and I can talk with him about most things, I could share stats about dating with him and while he still had his university access he even looked some stuff up for me that I couldn't find on researchgate.

Being able to share and vent with another human being in person helps, once you have openly spoken about how shit everything is the internal pressure goes down for a while. Also, shameful and painful memories / aspects of your present life become less thorny once you were able to air them out once, it becomes easier to accept what is and work on what you can once your prespective on your own life is less dominated by shame and anxiety.

All that is too say, while it might not be possible or easy in America and less possible every year in other places, if you can find a sympathetic professional, I have found it makes life much more bearable.

Medication (not perscripted by therapists but by psychiatrists) has been mostly shit, but after 6 useless / harmful antidepressants my current meds have slightly raised the floor for how low my depression makes my mood fall. I still feel horrible at times, but my mental stops getting worse sooner and starts going up quicker.

English online spaces have mostly horror stories relating to therapy and I suspect most come from people living in the states, it is not this bad everywhere / always.

I might just have been extremly lucky. Btw it's my therapist, not psychiatrist, psychiatrist are the ones perscribing all the risky medication and they have a very surface level picture of you, I see that one like once every 2 months and she knows very little about me.

Things going as well with my therapist as they did also I think (maybe arrogantly so) had to do with me being a high IQ autist and approaching the whole thing very seriously:

a) I waited till he got to know me as an extremly rational autist capable of cognitive decoupling on even very traumatic topics. Think it was 5 months into therapy I started talking about difficult topics like Incels.
b) Brought a whole folder with printed out studies, quotes, surveys, etc. to the session. I would basically only show provable facts for a bit while being conservative with how I interpreted them and slowly get to the punch line. Also intermixxed some more funny / entertaining elements like the old tinder experiments to keep him interested.
c) Got a 2 hour session and still was mostly done showing how men are innately "poor" on the dating market, dating apps make the competition global, what women care about seems to be mostly hard to fake signals of genetic fitness, race differences in attraction, dark triad stuff and then slowly started talking about how miserable many young men were and what was going on in incel circles. Obviously no slurs + no losing control and getting emotional.
d) In later sessions we talked about more and more stuff and after he had learned that I could be relied on to be reasonable and could back up my claims I started getting to more subjective stuff, how much pain it was causing me both being alone and also seeing other men abandoned like this in a society proclaiming to prioritize fairness and equality, etc. It basically went more easily from there, with him just trusting me and being understanding and us talking about possible solutions like prostituion or trying specific type of dating apps for autists and all that he could think off. I told him how humiliating dating apps would be for me but I also didn't want to appear uncooperative and one more bad experience wasn't gonna change much anyways.


I have another plan laid out if I ever need to convince someone of race realism:
1. show pitbull / dog stats about how 2 breeds dominate all dog attacks on humans ->
2. show stats about how men are 95% of shot by cop victims & dominate violent crime stats in every country ever all throughout time -> people intuitvely know that these dog breeds and men are more violent innately, which means they already subconciously accept the possibility of genes affecting aggression, and then I would start with ->
3. showing stats about how blacks are more violent (without yet mentioning my proposed explanation), I would preemptively counter all the excuses usually made by ->
4. showing stats about how rich blacks more violent than poor whites, high IQ blacks more violent than low IQ whites, etc. ->
5. at some point comes the stat that compares blacks in USA with all the blacks around the world in differend countries and shows they fit right in in terms of crimes commited with blacks in 3rd world countries, from which follows ->
6. that any enviormental explanation proposes blacks have as bad an enviorment in a first world country (USA) as in the thrid world countries around the world.

Well, this got a bit longer than intended, but I think you can see I invested quite a bit of effort into making my chances at success as high as possible. I enjoyed it as well, since I could finally use all the studies and graphs and arguments my autistic ass had collected all throughout my time online.

 

[Snowman888]

WE know it

 

[SufferingMammal]

Therapy can’t change the laws of nature. Can they increase your IQ? No. Can they make you more attractive? No. Can they change female nature? No. Therapy is meant solely for normies with superficial problems. Therapy can’t and will never FIX THE HARD PROBLEMS.

 

[SufferingMammal]

Get a male therapist. Where I live you get a few testing session to see if you are compatible , think it was like 15 in total.

I suspect American therapists are so mentally ill + ideologically possessed that you are better off talking to a dog or a wall. But there are reaonable ones out there in other countries and having someone on your side who you can talk to on the regular eases the pain. Speaking from personal experience.

Men do not have the superpower to change reality.

 

[Carpanesi]

I've slowly come to realize this not only from my own experience with therapy in the past but also watching others discuss their experiences. As well as professional discuss treating incels. The realization I've some to is that therapy in general can never work for exclusively male issues. What it essentially boils down to is trying to solve a male problem with a female solution. Therapy works great for women. If a woman complains about something and asks for help then she can expect to have everyone come to her aid. This does not work for men. If you are a man and ask for help, then in the eyes of society you have forfeited your right to receive help. The act of asking for mental aid as a man means you do not deserve aid.

That is the basic realization I've come to. Going to therapy to solve incel related issues is the worst possible thing you can do. Once you are pegged as an incel no one will take you seriously in any way other than as a potential threat. As incels we don't need to talk about our issues. We know what they are. We require immediate and direct action. That is the male solution to a male problem...ACTION. The action in question is simply LOVE . Women require material attainment in order to satisfy their vanity. It's clear this is provided to them in abundance in our current culture. Men require love to satisfy their sacrifices. This basic requirement is not met in the slightest. The current transaction between male and female societal obligations is so obscenely lopsided that I can't see how much longer the scales can remain like this before everyone and everything falls over.

Lol can't agree more

Therapy is literally paying woke individuals to listen you and tell you shit. There's no way in hell they can ever, ever relate to problems they never got to experience. In the end it's a waste of time and money because whatever they talk to you is never based on their experience, only what they read in books and heard on symposiums

I wouldn't accept that even if they paid me instead.

Don't go to therapy. They are not your friends. They'll only use you to milk you/your parents out of money.

 

[Carpanesi]

I went to therapy for a couple of weeks and remember telling her I used to believe I was being gang stalked in the past (legit sign of paranoid schizophrenia) but she didn't care and just wanted to continue treating my "social anxiety" jfl

Same goes with imagining/believing there are hidden cameras or wiretapping, also kind of paranoid behavior.

 

[Carpanesi]

All things related to mental health are a psyop, nothing more

They want everyone to think they're crazy so they can come in and tell everyone what to do. Don't fall for that

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Men do not have the superpower to change reality.

Why do you make me quote my previous post.

having someone on your side who you can talk to on the regular eases the pain.

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

I've slowly come to realize this not only from my own experience with therapy in the past but also watching others discuss their experiences. As well as professional discuss treating incels. The realization I've some to is that therapy in general can never work for exclusively male issues. What it essentially boils down to is trying to solve a male problem with a female solution. Therapy works great for women. If a woman complains about something and asks for help then she can expect to have everyone come to her aid. This does not work for men. If you are a man and ask for help, then in the eyes of society you have forfeited your right to receive help. The act of asking for mental aid as a man means you do not deserve aid.

That is the basic realization I've come to. Going to therapy to solve incel related issues is the worst possible thing you can do. Once you are pegged as an incel no one will take you seriously in any way other than as a potential threat. As incels we don't need to talk about our issues. We know what they are. We require immediate and direct action. That is the male solution to a male problem...ACTION. The action in question is simply LOVE . Women require material attainment in order to satisfy their vanity. It's clear this is provided to them in abundance in our current culture. Men require love to satisfy their sacrifices. This basic requirement is not met in the slightest. The current transaction between male and female societal obligations is so obscenely lopsided that I can't see how much longer the scales can remain like this before everyone and everything falls over.

You have discovered the meme of "therapy", somehow they think a one size fits all approach applies to men and women, when like you said the roles and societies treatment of these two groups is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, IT IS BY DEFINITION SET UP TO FAIL.

My experience is I dropped blackpill bombs on the therapist and explored the holes in "therapy", for people who were not attractive and whereby the problems they encountered were not from the self, but the environment outside of their control was the cause of. They had no frame of reference, absolutely no approach to deal with this problem, as IF SOMEHOW THIS CAN NEVER BE THE CAUSE OF A PROBLEM FOR HUMANS. SOMEHOW ITS INCONCEIVABLE THAT PEOPLE ARE NEGATIVE FOR DISCRIMINATORY REASONS (EG UNPROVOKED BY THE CLIENT), AND THAT COULD ELICIT NEGATIVE MENTAL HEALTH IN THEIR PATIENT.

THIS IS BEYOND A RETARDED APPROACH AND SIMPLY HAS NO RELATION TO THE REALITY MEN FACE EVERY DAY, ITS IS LIKE TRYING TO FIGHT A FIRE WITH A FUCKING SPOON, WHILE NOT ADMITTING THERE IS A FIRE, AND THAT THE HEAT IS CAUSED BY AN UNEXPLAINED ENTITY THAT DOESNT EXIST.

My therapist chimped out and actually stated, I WAS CAUSING HER STRESS, and she was moving me to another person, absolute joker, she never addressed any question i posed to her regarding the blackpill, she had nothing.

THE THERAPY MEN HAVE IS FORUMS AND BROS ON HERE, FIND SOME YOU CAN BEFRIEND AND TALK TO REGULARLY THIS IS THE REAL THERAPY.

 

[mcmoohyun]

No thERaphy for your face

 

[dibene]

If it is society that perceive me as a subhuman, how is me going to therapy going to help? Unless I stop existing nothing is going to change

 

[sultryloser]

Of course it doesn't. I think therapy is a big sham. You ought to work through your own problems, because nobody else is in your head, and you should be using it, as it's the
Therapy will never work, because the only way to get a better quality of life is to improve your social value, that is your looks, other's perceptions of you.

 

[TheSerpent]

High IQ post

 

[XtremeMax]

therapy is a gay jewish scam