Blackpill The Wall Cope

[chadlandic]

If you have been on any MGTOW page you probably heard about 'the wall' concept, many of us are blackpilled enough to know that, more than half of MGTOWs are incels in denial. The wall theory suggests that at a certain age a female's value drops beyond recovery and she is unwanted by most men. Some say the wall is the age of 30 and some are retarded enough to say 25 even 20.
This is a mega cope that these men made themselves believe, they think somehow a 31 year old is undesirable. The reality is, a pretty female isn't suddenly going to collapse once she hits a certain age. You won't be able to get that good looking 24 year old girl once she is 30 (without look, career maxing)

Obviously none of us is retarded enough to claim there won't be any decline on one's apperience with age. I am merely pointing out; that decline isn't as harsh as MGTOW claims. They even called it this extreme name, "the wall".
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To illusturate, I put 30 and 40 year old female pics together, before anyone says "they are celebrities they have money to access good makeup, photoshop and surgeries"
1) I searched if they had anything done and added their pics without makeup and photoshop.
2) There is no way to find so many informations about non famous women, so we have to deal with what we have

PS: I also was careful enough to choose their recent pics, so no old pics.

 

[Hunter]

wall is real to a certain extent but even still older foids have way too many options as juggernaut law compensates for their decreased looks.

 

[UnfortunatelyINCEL98]

The wall can be debunked with the fetishzation of grandma/ Mature porn..

 

[Robtical]

The wall is only valid when it comes to marriage and getting a betabux. The longer they wait the less men will want to marry and provide for them. Only a simp would marry a 40 year old cock carousel rider. The wall hitter whores can still get sex easily though.

 

[Deleted member 1042]

There is a fuckin wall, but it works differently than how it's generally made out to work. The wall is when the AVERAGE roastie hits a certain age, and the high value males (aka Chads) don't want her no more. Ofc they can get sex easily with loads and loads of dudes, even Chads, but they can't make Chad commit. And ofc this is not a law, so every once in a while, you'll see an older roastie with a Chad (usually the female is able to maintain looks: see Morena Baccarin). So essentially, the wall is the force which opposes hypergamy.

 

[Gone Coping]

wall is real to a certain extent but even still older foids have way too many options as juggernaut law compensates for their decreased looks.

female SMV is unstoppable

 

[Weed]

female SMV is unstoppable

Tbhtbh

 

[tentacla]

@chadlandic
It has nothing to do with looks. Eggs get pretty damaged by 30-35 and females older than 35 normally can't carry a child without serious complications, making producing healthy offspring after 35 virtually impossible. That's what "The Wall" is.

 

[Hunter]

female SMV is unstoppable

thats literally the meaning of the juggernaut law. their dating potential is unstoppable, just like the juggernaut.

 

[MyWaifuIsDead]

tbh the wall is very debunkable because a lot of people have different age/look/ preferences and/or fetishes. And when such factors are included, the wall can only set up a theoretical generalized age based on a majority vote/choice.

The "juggernaut law" works not only because of a huge variance of fetishes of men all around the world but also because of how a significant amount of men are basically ok with girls that are worth 5/10 and below.


This "wall theory" is basically a weapon that some men use to promote the traditionalism belief to women once more and just revert them from being "slutty and a total degenerate".


Note that these are what I have observed and that these are not necessarily the absolute truths. It can be though.

 

[chadlandic]

@chadlandic
It has nothing to do with looks. Eggs get pretty damaged by 30-35 and females older than 35 normally can't carry a child without serious complications, making producing healthy offspring after 35 virtually impossible. That's what "The Wall" is.

I was only talking about their apperience, there isn't much visual difference between a 26 year old and a 30 year old woman.

 

[tentacla]

tbh the wall is very debunkable because a lot of people have different age/look/ preferences and/or fetishes. And when such factors are included, the wall can only set up a theoretical generalized age based on a majority vote/choice.

The Wall isn't about the ability to find a partner, it's about when the female's fertility goes on a rapid decline (and their appearance soon follows, 'cause female aging mechanism starts when the last of their eggs expire).

The "juggernaut law" works not only because of a huge variance of fetishes of men all around the world but also because of how a significant amount of men are basically ok with girls that are worth 5/10 and below.

Actually, it's not some anomaly deserving of its own title, it's how things are supposed to be on both sides: 5/10 men want women 4/10 and above, but a 5/10 woman wants at least 7/10 (and will dump him for 8/10 the moment things look like she can get away with it), which makes it look like wanting someone leagues better than yourself is a norm. It's not. Well, it sort of is, but only for females.

This "wall theory" is basically a weapon that some men use to promote the traditionalism belief to women once more and just revert them from being "slutty and a total degenerate".

Some may use it as a weapon, but it's a biological fact, too. Tradcons who blab about it just simplify things (sometimes too much), but they aren't entirely wrong to use the image of a wall: you fly high, you hit it, you go down, and it's more or less how it goes for females and age.

 

[Alucard]

Well, women here in the UK age like milk, but Japanese women stay looking young into their 40's, even 50's sometimes.

 

[theultimate341]

Depends on the women

 

[tentacla]

Yes, asian women's eggs are more durable, so their menopause starts later.

 

[MyWaifuIsDead]

The Wall isn't about the ability to find a partner, it's about when the female's fertility goes on a rapid decline (and their appearance soon follows, 'cause female aging mechanism starts when the last of their eggs expire).


Actually, it's not some anomaly deserving of its own title, it's how things are supposed to be on both sides: 5/10 men want women 4/10 and above, but a 5/10 woman wants at least 7/10 (and will dump him for 8/10 the moment things look like she can get away with it), which makes it look like wanting someone leagues better than yourself is a norm. It's not. Well, it sort of is, but only for females.


Some may use it as a weapon, but it's a biological fact, too. Tradcons who blab about it just simplify things (sometimes too much), but they aren't entirely wrong to use the image of a wall: you fly high, you hit it, you go down, and it's more or less how it goes for females and age.

1. The post was kind of vague about the wall theory. The OP stated that "The wall theory suggests that at a certain age a female's value drops beyond recovery and she is unwanted by most men. Some say the wall is the age of 30 and some are retarded enough to say 25 even 20." The fertility decline may be evidence for a decrease of the family potential factor of a female BUT IT doesn't mean that all men would automatically reject women with a rapidly decreasing fertility. Some men or a significant amount of them do want. Also, alternatives for offspring are now possible due to technological advancements. This "wall" thing would be very debunkable IF it was stated as what OP said. HOWEVER, I am not denying that it exists. The "wall" would may be considered as a hypothesis or a theory unless it would be studied or researched further for more conclusive evidence.

2. Actually some men do also desire ladies who are leagues away from them and some women also can settle for lower standards of finding men lol. It's that the juggernaut law can suggest that women have more sexual appeal to men more than men having sexual appeal to women. I need to find a paper to conclude these but let these statements be my hypotheses.

3. It may be true that the fertility and/or appearance of females decline beyond a certain age but with the technological advancements, such declination can be slowed down or even fully halted. Plastic surgery, in vitro fertilization, and other future advancements can be used to stop such declination as much as possible.

EDIT: I would also like to address that women of different races age differently and that the "wall" doesn't cover such aspects as well.

 

[chadlandic]

1. The post was kind of vague about the wall theory. The OP stated that "The wall theory suggests that at a certain age a female's value drops beyond recovery and she is unwanted by most men. Some say the wall is the age of 30 and some are retarded enough to say 25 even 20." The fertility decline may be evidence for a decrease of the family potential factor of a female BUT IT doesn't mean that all men would automatically reject women with a rapidly decreasing fertility. Some men or a significant amount of them do want. Also, alternatives for offspring are now possible due to technological advancements. This "wall" thing would be very debunkable IF it was stated as what OP said. HOWEVER, I am not denying that it exists. The "wall" would may be considered as a hypothesis or a theory unless it would be studied or researched further for more conclusive evidence.

2. Actually some men do also desire ladies who are leagues away from them and some women also can settle for lower standards of finding men lol. It's that the juggernaut law can suggest that women have more sexual appeal to men more than men having sexual appeal to women. I need to find a paper to conclude these but let these statements be my hypotheses.

3. It may be true that the fertility and/or appearance of females decline beyond a certain age but with the technological advancements, such declination can be slowed down or even fully halted. Plastic surgery, in vitro fertilization, and other future advancements can be used to stop such declination as much as possible.

EDIT: I would also like to address that women of different races age differently and that the "wall" doesn't cover such aspects as well.

I agree, while fertility being an important part of atraction for men, appereance is the key.
These people who are coping with the wall theory, assume a 30 year old woman is undesirable and "post-prime" looking. They believe, somehow, their SMV is going to be higher than these beautiful females when they hit a certain age. The truth is, there isn't much of a visual difference between a 25 year old and a 30 year old, the aging process isn't as harsh as they wish it to be.
As you said, with advancements in technology, even without drastic surgeries (small precedures such as fillers, small dosages of botox, laser therapies) females can age gracefully. Especially if they aren't smoking, drinking, exercising.