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We Incels are charged by women with "objectifying" them. "Objectification," like other trendy words that are thrown around without intelligent reflection, lacks a definite meaning. Canadian feminist Wendy McElroy writes,
"Again, what does this [sexual objectification] mean? If taken literally, it means nothing at all because objects don't have sexuality; only human beings do." (XXX: A Woman's Right to Pornography, p. 98)
I once asked on a forum for atheists what "objectification" meant. A long debate ensued, some of the participants women. Women told me that it meant focusing on sexual attributes and ignoring personality. The problem is that "ignoring personality" is a folk psychological notion that lacks scientific determinateness. To define "ignoring personality," we have to look into the brain and see what the neurons are doing. As far as I know, we haven't done that.
My theory is that the notion of sexual objectification is used to torture Incels. The focus made by the torturer is on the object as substitute for a real woman. Such an object might be:
"Again, what does this [sexual objectification] mean? If taken literally, it means nothing at all because objects don't have sexuality; only human beings do." (XXX: A Woman's Right to Pornography, p. 98)
I once asked on a forum for atheists what "objectification" meant. A long debate ensued, some of the participants women. Women told me that it meant focusing on sexual attributes and ignoring personality. The problem is that "ignoring personality" is a folk psychological notion that lacks scientific determinateness. To define "ignoring personality," we have to look into the brain and see what the neurons are doing. As far as I know, we haven't done that.
My theory is that the notion of sexual objectification is used to torture Incels. The focus made by the torturer is on the object as substitute for a real woman. Such an object might be:
- A toilet. Incels must masturbate by themselves to attain orgasm; some of us do so on toilets. In fact, I have seen "toilet" used by some Incels as a synonym for a woman.
- A blow-up doll. Dolls are objects that substitute for women.
- Various articles of clothing. Of these, panties hold a peculiar fascination, but it also includes socks, diapers, or underwear.
- A sex toy. Cock rings, tubes, and other objects are used to facilitate masturbation in the absence of a woman.
The list goes on. But the point is that when Incels have orgasms, we do not get to cuddle with a partner afterward: we are left surrounded by objects. This affects us psychologically and may even determine a particular object fetish. The torturer then uses our object bond as a basis for shame and a means of social control.
If sex weren't "taboo," we Incels could have open discussions with women about their concerns relating to objectification, and to how it is defined. But we can't: Big Tech has siloed us into warmongering echo chambers. Thus we cannot learn to what behaviors they are averse or otherwise benefit from their criticism.
source: https://gab.com/Scott_Hoge/posts/110622512494940111
Disclamier: I did not write any of this thread
If sex weren't "taboo," we Incels could have open discussions with women about their concerns relating to objectification, and to how it is defined. But we can't: Big Tech has siloed us into warmongering echo chambers. Thus we cannot learn to what behaviors they are averse or otherwise benefit from their criticism.
source: https://gab.com/Scott_Hoge/posts/110622512494940111
Disclamier: I did not write any of this thread
