The true nature of IncelTears posters.

[KvltWarrior98]

A few minutes ago, I have just posted a quite lengthy rant on the dreaded r/inceltears in hopes of seeing what their responses will be like.

Honestly enough, I gathered as many rational arguments as I could against their rhetoric, trying to prove to them that it's not us who is the "hate group" but, in fact it is them (Gods damn it). I am really curious of what they will respond (if they shall approve my post at all).

Maybe I am just talking to walls when trying to argue with them. But honestly I believe that it is worth a try... maybe some will see our side of the discussion.

Anyway, I will keep you updated in case the post gets approved and up there.

Feel free to add any constructive ideea that might be of use in trying to argue with them and trying to break them from their bigoted mindset.

 

[Mahlo]

I've tried. You can't argue with them. They'll spin their wheels as hard as they can and NEVER give ground. Their goal posts are on treads. You're an incel so everything you say is wrong be default.

Trolling there is fun, but don't put any serious effort into arguing. Just post some single sentence refutation (which is easy) then say no more

 

[KvltWarrior98]

I've tried. You can't argue with them. They'll spin their wheels as hard as they can and NEVER give ground. Their goal posts are on treads. You're an incel so everything you say is wrong be default.

Trolling there is fun, but don't put any serious effort into arguing. Just post some single sentence refutation (which is easy) then say no more

I will consider what you say. Though, I just said it is worth a try maybe?

If not, there is always the opportunity to prove it to ourselves that they are just as hateful as we believe them to be.

 

[KyloRen]

I'd be interested in checking up on it.

 

[OTaKu_WarrIOr_N]

Indeed. Talking to them is like trying to climb the walls of Troy as Apollo pushes you back every time.

 

[ArtoriasWolf]

It might get deleted if you use logic, they don't seem to like that.

 

[KvltWarrior98]

Indeed. Talking to them is like trying to climb the walls of Troy as Apollo pushes you back every time.

A Sisyphean effort? Maybe, but at least I can try.

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It might get deleted if you use logic, they don't seem to like that.

As of now half an hour later, still no response from them approving the post.

 

[OTaKu_WarrIOr_N]

Indeed. Talking to them is like trying to climb the walls of Troy as Apollo pushes you back every time.

A Sisyphean effort? Maybe, but at least I can try.

Life itself is a Sisyphean effort (not literally endless)

 

[TheVman]

the men are incels and the women are roastie landwhale whores who cuck their bfs

 

[KvltWarrior98]

Life itself is a Sisyphean effort (not literally endless)

HA! True.

 

[/pol/cel]

You ever hear of the myth of Sisyphus? Its like that.arguing with these simpletons and trying to convibce them through logic is an excercise in utter futility.

 

[KvltWarrior98]

You ever hear of the myth of Sisyphus? Its like that.arguing with these simpletons and trying to convibce them through logic is an excercise in utter futility.

You, I like you! I don't know whether you are into black metal or not, but what you just said is the most fucking KVLT and KRIEG thing ever. Check this out, I bet you would love it, even if only for the lyrics.



Yeah, I know the myth of Sisyphus - I even quoted it right here in this thread, haha - but at least I can try and see how far their minds can go.

 

[/pol/cel]

You, I like you! I don't know whether you are into black metal or not, but what you just said is the most fucking KVLT and KRIEG thing ever. Check this out, I bet you would love it, even if only for the lyrics.



Yeah, I know the myth of Sisyphus - I even quoted it right here in this thread, haha - but at least I can try and see how far their minds can go.

Only black metal I could get into was Burzum. I dig agalloch though. Though they arent black metal.

 

[kkt6]

Where's the thread

 

[KvltWarrior98]

Where's the thread

Not yet approved.

 

[Sub8Hate]

Honestly, it's futile. They are the agent Smith to our neo.

 

[KvltWarrior98]

Only black metal I could get into was Burzum. I dig agalloch though. Though they arent black metal.

Burzum... ah, good old Varg, how can you not like him? And Agalloch, would you believe me if I told you they are my favourite band, I believe I listened to the entirety of Pale Folklore more than 100 times.

 

[anincelforlifelol]

They have absolutely no life. They are the same as Kiwifarms was to Sluthate. No life whatsoever.

 

[OTaKu_WarrIOr_N]

Only black metal I could get into was Burzum. I dig agalloch though. Though they arent black metal.

Listen to Rotting Christ.

 

[/pol/cel]

Burzum... ah, good old Varg, how can you not like him? And Agalloch, would you believe me if I told you they are my favourite band, I believe I listened to the entirety of Pale Folklore more than 100 times.

I dig ambient black metal man I just dont like retarded screaming and guttural vocals cause it breaks my immersion.

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Listen to Rotting Christ.

Ill check them out.

 

[KvltWarrior98]

I dig ambient black metal man I just dont like retarded screaming and guttural vocals cause it breaks my immersion.

Aye, understandable. In that case you might want to check out Negura Bunget (the pride of my nation's black metal scene), an absolutely sublime band with incredible music inspired by Romanian folklore, also incorporating traditional soundscapes to their already excelent ambiental compositions.

 

[OTaKu_WarrIOr_N]

I dig ambient black metal man I just dont like retarded screaming and guttural vocals cause it breaks my immersion.

Aye, understandable. In that case you might want to check out Negura Bunget (the pride of my nation's black metal scene), an absolutely sublime band with incredible music inspired by Romanian folklore, also incorporating traditional soundscapes to their already excelent ambiental compositions.

You should post in my black metal thread in off topic

 

[/pol/cel]

Aye, understandable. In that case you might want to check out Negura Bunget (the pride of my nation's black metal scene), an absolutely sublime band with incredible music inspired by Romanian folklore, also incorporating traditional soundscapes to their already excelent ambiental compositions.

Sounds good man what album should I listen to?

 

[KvltWarrior98]

Sounds good man what album should I listen to?

I would recommend you to start with Vârstele Pământului, then move on to Om and then to 'n Crungu Bradului.

 

[/pol/cel]

I would recommend you to start with Vârstele Pământului, then move on to Om and then to 'n Crungu Bradului.

Will do. Also Romania has some badass fucking folklore. Metal as fuck. 

http://encyclopedia-of-monsters.wikia.com/wiki/Varcolac

 

[VincentVanCope]

I've tried. You can't argue with them. They'll spin their wheels as hard as they can and NEVER give ground. Their goal posts are on treads. You're an incel so everything you say is wrong be default.
Trolling there is fun, but don't put any serious effort into arguing. Just post some single sentence refutation (which is easy) then say no more

 

[icomeinpeace]

I never post on IncelTears but I first came across Incels about 6 months ago and occasionally browse this forum out of curiousity.... so here's my objective stance.

Most viewers (IncelTears and whoever else) see a lot of shitty stuff here. It's not uncommon to see people fantasising about killing people or wishing harm on others. I know that's not everyone here and when certain topics are made considering someone dying "LifeFuel" there are those to speak up against it. But come on, put yourself in a casual observers shoes and what would you think of this place? It doesn't come across well. I know this forum takes pride in being a bastion of free speech and having an "anything goes" mentality and I get that, but that doesn't come without a price. At the end of the day IncelTears can only use the material you give them against you.

On the other side IncelTears isn't exactly a bulwark of goodness, even if half the people here condone horrible things that means half the people don't. And mocking an entire community of people who are obviously in pain only serves to widen the gulf between the "Normies" and "Incels". IncelTears on the whole (in my opinion) are not as bad as the worst of the people here, but they aren't better than the good ones here who are often ignored in their plight to mock this forum.

I don't think this forum is good for the people here, but that's another argument probably not worth getting in to. But I think IncelTears should have stopped when r/Incels stopped. It's a bit much that they continue what they do.

As for arguing with them, well... you already know the outcome. It's the same as if one of them came here. Neither side is willing to have any meaningful dialogue because both hold extremely opposing views, and to concede those views would be to concede their whole view on life is wrong. As usual, the "truth" of matters probably lies somewhere in the middle, but I don't think many mediators frequent this forum or IncelTears.

 

[BlackPill47]

They still deserve banning for brigading r/Incels and getting us banned. Evil cunts!

 

[Mahlo]

>As for arguing with them, well... you already know the outcome. It's the same as if one of them came here. Neither side is willing to have any meaningful dialogue because both hold extremely opposing views, and to concede those views would be to concede their whole view on life is wrong.

But there's no argument. The blackpill is not some set in stone thing. But it is not difficult to prove that looks are the causative element in attraction between people. There is simply no evidence to the contrary. Looks and Money/Status is it. There's a lot of *arguing* but not a lot of *proving*. It's amicable to both sides to say "The truth lies somewhere in the middle", but does it? Really?

 

[KvltWarrior98]

I never post on IncelTears but I first came across Incels about 6 months ago and occasionally browse this forum out of curiousity.... so here's my objective stance.

Most viewers (IncelTears and whoever else) see a lot of shitty stuff here. It's not uncommon to see people fantasising about killing people or wishing harm on others. I know that's not everyone here and when certain topics are made considering someone dying "LifeFuel" there are those to speak up against it. But come on, put yourself in a casual observers shoes and what would you think of this place? It doesn't come across well. I know this forum takes pride in being a bastion of free speech and having an "anything goes" mentality and I get that, but that doesn't come without a price. At the end of the day IncelTears can only use the material you give them against you.

On the other side IncelTears isn't exactly a bulwark of goodness, even if half the people here condone horrible things that means half the people don't. And mocking an entire community of people who are obviously in pain only serves to widen the gulf between the "Normies" and "Incels". IncelTears on the whole (in my opinion) are not as bad as the worst of the people here, but they aren't better than the good ones here who are often ignored in their plight to mock this forum.

I don't think this forum is good for the people here, but that's another argument probably not worth getting in to. But I think IncelTears should have stopped when r/Incels stopped. It's a bit much that they continue what they do.

As for arguing with them, well... you already know the outcome. It's the same as if one of them came here. Neither side is willing to have any meaningful dialogue because both hold extremely opposing views, and to concede those views would be to concede their whole view on life is wrong. As usual, the "truth" of matters probably lies somewhere in the middle, but I don't think many mediators frequent this forum or IncelTears.

Nicely put. Sure we are no saints here, and honestly I wouldn't think there is anyone so hypocritical in here to even believe that we truly are. My main point in the post and the dialogue I tried to open up with them is for them to hear us out, to see our point of view. Of course we are bitter and angry, but who wouldn't be if they were in our situation too?

What annoys me about them mostly is the fact that they portray themselves as bastions of righteousness and morality even though they mostly find in us just easy targets to bullying - especially considering how much of a taboo thing is to be a virgin male in your 20's.

My first impression of that place was mostly that of pretentiousness to be honest, especially after I had my first contact with one of them whilst I still was active on the r/ForeverAlone community on Reddit - quite ironically a community many of the regulars there frequent. What struck me was the assumption that because I made a crude joke about suicide, I was immediately assaulted with statements of being a misogynistic asshole with hateful ideas, and that I am pathetic for being a virgin...

Anyway, I'm open to dialogue, and as long as they are too, I believe we are allowed to express ourselves.

 

[/pol/cel]

>As for arguing with them, well... you already know the outcome. It's the same as if one of them came here. Neither side is willing to have any meaningful dialogue because both hold extremely opposing views, and to concede those views would be to concede their whole view on life is wrong.

But there's no argument. The blackpill is not some set in stone thing. But it is not difficult to prove that looks are the causative element in attraction between people. There is simply no evidence to the contrary. Looks and Money/Status is it. There's a lot of *arguing* but not a lot of *proving*. It's amicable to both sides to say "The truth lies somewhere in the middle", but does it? Really?

This. Inceltears is built on retarded foundations to begin with because they are trying to refute an objective truth while shutting out reality.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Don't bother, they're racist fuarks themselves and project their racism onto us. We are a group accepting of everyone, regardless of race or religion. They, on the other hand, aren't. All you need is to be a degenerate and you'll be accepted.

 

[BlackPill47]

We want nothing to do with the cuckfags. Fuck, even when we were private they persecuted us and got us banned from Reddit. Leave us be.

 

[KvltWarrior98]

Ok, shoutout to all those interested and @Mahlo , @KyloRen , @ArtoriasWolf , @OTaKu_WarrIOr_N , @TheVman , @/pol/cel , @kkt6 , @Sub8Hate , @anincelforlifelol , @VincentVanCope , @icomeinpeace , @BlackPill47 AND @RREEEEEEEEE.

My post did not get approved by the mods there...

 

[ArtoriasWolf]

They must be trying to keep some of the blue pilled users there ignorant.

 

[KvltWarrior98]

Here it is what I wanted to post:

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Ok, shoutout to all those interested and @Mahlo , @KyloRen , @ArtoriasWolf , @OTaKu_WarrIOr_N , @TheVman , @/pol/cel , @kkt6 , @Sub8Hate , @anincelforlifelol , @VincentVanCope , @icomeinpeace , @BlackPill47 AND @RREEEEEEEEE.
My post did not get approved by the mods there...

Of course it didn't, you have to fit their cucked bluepill mindset.

 

[kkt6]

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[BlackPill47]

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Top kek.

 

[not_here_4_points]

I've tried. You can't argue with them. They'll spin their wheels as hard as they can and NEVER give ground. Their goal posts are on treads. You're an incel so everything you say is wrong be default.

Trolling there is fun, but don't put any serious effort into arguing. Just post some single sentence refutation (which is easy) then say no more

I find that that really is the best tactic when arguing with anyone incapable of intellectual honesty.

 

[Sub8Hate]

Ok, shoutout to all those interested and @Mahlo , @KyloRen , @ArtoriasWolf , @OTaKu_WarrIOr_N , @TheVman , @/pol/cel , @kkt6 , @Sub8Hate , @anincelforlifelol , @VincentVanCope , @icomeinpeace , @BlackPill47 AND @RREEEEEEEEE.

My post did not get approved by the mods there...

I told you, you can only attack the beast from within via comments, but it's futile. Fuck 'em.

 

[icomeinpeace]

>As for arguing with them, well... you already know the outcome. It's the same as if one of them came here. Neither side is willing to have any meaningful dialogue because both hold extremely opposing views, and to concede those views would be to concede their whole view on life is wrong.

But there's no argument. The blackpill is not some set in stone thing. But it is not difficult to prove that looks are the causative element in attraction between people. There is simply no evidence to the contrary. Looks and Money/Status is it. There's a lot of *arguing* but not a lot of *proving*. It's amicable to both sides to say "The truth lies somewhere in the middle", but does it? Really?

Yeah it would be ridiculous to dispute looks being a major factor in life, good looking people simply have it easier. I was more referring to the threshold some people here have established as the means to have a happy functioning relationship. But then again maybe the majority opinion of what "normal looking" is isn't as extreme as I think it is, especially since a lot of regular looking people here are considered "FakeCels" by some.

 

[Deleted member]

I never post on IncelTears but I first came across Incels about 6 months ago and occasionally browse this forum out of curiousity.... so here's my objective stance.

Most viewers (IncelTears and whoever else) see a lot of shitty stuff here. It's not uncommon to see people fantasising about killing people or wishing harm on others. I know that's not everyone here and when certain topics are made considering someone dying "LifeFuel" there are those to speak up against it. But come on, put yourself in a casual observers shoes and what would you think of this place? It doesn't come across well. I know this forum takes pride in being a bastion of free speech and having an "anything goes" mentality and I get that, but that doesn't come without a price. At the end of the day IncelTears can only use the material you give them against you.

On the other side IncelTears isn't exactly a bulwark of goodness, even if half the people here condone horrible things that means half the people don't. And mocking an entire community of people who are obviously in pain only serves to widen the gulf between the "Normies" and "Incels". IncelTears on the whole (in my opinion) are not as bad as the worst of the people here, but they aren't better than the good ones here who are often ignored in their plight to mock this forum.

I don't think this forum is good for the people here, but that's another argument probably not worth getting in to. But I think IncelTears should have stopped when r/Incels stopped. It's a bit much that they continue what they do.

As for arguing with them, well... you already know the outcome. It's the same as if one of them came here. Neither side is willing to have any meaningful dialogue because both hold extremely opposing views, and to concede those views would be to concede their whole view on life is wrong. As usual, the "truth" of matters probably lies somewhere in the middle, but I don't think many mediators frequent this forum or IncelTears.

i’m sorry, how is inceltears “not as bad as the worst here”? what do the “worst” here do? make lifefuel threads and hurt your widdle fee fees? inceltears actively tries to snuff out every single community incels can vent in peace and are a hate group dedicated solely to bullying suffering people and have went as far as doxxing several incels outright... but of course, saying bad stuff about those poor, defenseless females on an online forum is MUCH worse than that. fucking moron.

here’s some advice for your stupid ass: go whine about r/watchpeopledie, which has no content other than gore, if you think that kind of content is “shitty”. why are you targeting incels instead?

 

[Mahlo]

>here’s some advice for your stupid ass: go whine about r/watchpeopledie if you think that kind of content is “shitty”. why are you targeting incels instead?

It's ok to laugh at someone dying. it's not ok to laugh at women for any reason!

 

[KyloRen]

@KvltWarrior98

That was too much logic for them to handle. I pretty much agreed with everything you said.

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Let's take it a step further. Why is the idea of being involuntarily virgin so despised by them? They always approve accounts saying "I'm a virgin, but it's my fault!" because they cannot take any sort of criticism to their point of view.

If the idea of being a virgin is entirely voluntary, eg it depends on owns own attitude and actions, then all of those users are justified in their non-virginity and virginity. For those that have sex, they are rewarded with "I worked hard for it, I deserve it." For those who are still virgins but are not blackpilled, they hold some semblance of hope and still aspire to that same ideal, that if they work hard, they can attain such a relationship.

if the idea of being a virgin is entirely involuntary then that means that they did not "work hard" to get into relationships. That their relationship with another person (the most intimate experience known to mankind) is entirely based on a foundation that they had no input on, then their entire worldview collapses. Indeed, it makes sense that their system of beliefs is under threat, they will not respond to such arguments and will respond with toxic and viral attacks.

 

[Deleted member 1039]

Bunch of annoying fucking stalkers. They got r/incels banned now they follow us to our other website and the other smaller incel remaining subs + Mgtow to talk shit about them. They are also hypocrites who complain about incels generalizing all women, but they generalize all incels. They say looks don't matter but worship the good looking  posters on here. They crucify the incels who post there rage fantasies but defend woman  with rape fantasies. 

They pretend that they are some "righteous" group who wants to stop incels from "hurting people" but instead of just reporting us they Cherry pick the extreme post on here to screenshot and talk shit about them, even though no one here is going to assault anyone and they've said multiple times that we are "all talk" and "weaklings". They even brigade and talk shit to Mgtow.

 They hate us so much because of our blackpill and the things we say about woman that they stalk and constantly try to take away our free speech. Bunch of white knight cuck faggots who will do anything to defend "m'lady". That would be like if I stalked a racism forum and tried to get them shutdown because I didn't like their beliefs. If you don't like what we say DONT FUCKING COME TO OUR SITE AND SUBS. I don't know who's worse on that forum. The whiteknight or the females. They should both be taken out back and shot like the worthless curs they are.

 

[OTaKu_WarrIOr_N]

@KvltWarrior98

That was too much logic for them to handle. I pretty much agreed with everything you said.

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Let's take it a step further. Why is the idea of being involuntarily virgin so despised by them? They always approve accounts saying "I'm a virgin, but it's my fault!" because they cannot take any sort of criticism to their point of view.

If the idea of being a virgin is entirely voluntary, eg it depends on owns own attitude and actions, then all of those users are justified in their non-virginity and virginity. For those that have sex, they are rewarded with "I worked hard for it, I deserve it." For those who are still virgins but are not blackpilled, they hold some semblance of hope and still aspire to that same ideal, that if they work hard, they can attain such a relationship.

if the idea of being a virgin is entirely involuntary then that means that they did not "work hard" to get into relationships. That their relationship with another person (the most intimate experience known to mankind) is entirely based on a foundation that they had no input on, then their entire worldview collapses. Indeed, it makes sense that their system of beliefs is under threat, they will not respond to such arguments and will respond with toxic and viral attacks.

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They want to feel like they've achieved something when the outcome was already determined.

 

[icomeinpeace]

i’m sorry, how is inceltears “not as bad as the worst here”? what do the “worst” here do? make lifefuel threads and hurt your widdle fee fees? inceltears actively tries to snuff out every single community incels can vent in peace and are a hate group dedicated solely to bullying suffering people and have went as far as doxxing several incels outright... but of course, saying bad stuff about those poor, defenseless females on an online forum is MUCH worse than that. fucking moron.

here’s some advice for your stupid ass: go whine about r/watchpeopledie, which has no content other than gore, if you think that kind of content is “shitty”. why are you targeting incels instead?

I dont like subs like /watchpeopledie but I understand a morbid curiosity to view things like this. The worst of Incels are the ones who are taking that little step beyond venting to actively seek pleasure in the death and suffering of others. I think that's worse than curiosity. As for the worst of IncelTears, from what I've seen on IncelTears it's not the actual suffering of Incels they are mocking (hence why no sub was made to mock ForeverAlone and the like), but rather the obscene content that gets posted here.

Even though I don't think IncelTears should exist, to claim the ones mocking a "LIFEFUEL: Woman dead" thread is worse than the ones creating it is rather disingenuous don't you think?

On a side note, you as a person pertains to one of my foremost issues with this site, I know that there's people here who have had a hard life and not much success with girls/people and everyone deserves a place they can have a sense of community. But as an impressionable youth of 14 you have came here and essentially become radicalised in a way that you can't even objectively separate the bad from the good on the site. You are a good looking kid, but you seem to have a severe case of body dysmorphia and at 14 if you "Grow up" with Incels you are going to have a really hard time thinking about things rationally.

Meh, I know it won't change anything, but good luck kid, I hope you figure things out as you grow and end up ok.

 

[KyloRen]

They want to feel like they've achieved something when the outcome was already determined.

That's the TLDR.

 

[KvltWarrior98]

@KvltWarrior98

That was too much logic for them to handle. I pretty much agreed with everything you said.

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Let's take it a step further. Why is the idea of being involuntarily virgin so despised by them? They always approve accounts saying "I'm a virgin, but it's my fault!" because they cannot take any sort of criticism to their point of view.

If the idea of being a virgin is entirely voluntary, eg it depends on owns own attitude and actions, then all of those users are justified in their non-virginity and virginity. For those that have sex, they are rewarded with "I worked hard for it, I deserve it." For those who are still virgins but are not blackpilled, they hold some semblance of hope and still aspire to that same ideal, that if they work hard, they can attain such a relationship.

if the idea of being a virgin is entirely involuntary then that means that they did not "work hard" to get into relationships. That their relationship with another person (the most intimate experience known to mankind) is entirely based on a foundation that they had no input on, then their entire worldview collapses. Indeed, it makes sense that their system of beliefs is under threat, they will not respond to such arguments and will respond with toxic and viral attacks.

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A good way to formulate the phenomenon that happens with them and the fundament of their hatred towards us. Yet what I do not understand was their unwillingness to an open dialogue. I mean, I did not formulate myself in an offensive manner - at least not consciously - and I did not try to be mocking or sarcastic to their point of view. 

I just tried to express mine and see how they shall respond, bring up an argument, create a constructive discussion.

Eh... it seems I don't really have with whom to do this.