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The torment of a life with better looking friends

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This will be a very long post but it's something I've always wanted to get off my chest and this is the best place to do that. Hoping a few of you can relate. Basically the curse of my life has been the fact that I get no IOIs from women whatsoever ever no matter what I try or do. Seeing women show interest in other random guys is bad enough but it's fleeting and temporary. It repeats over and over again sure but I've somewhat learned to live with it. The ultimate pain for me is the curse of always somehow managing to have a better looking friend throughout my life and watch them live the sort of life that I am denied right in front of me. It is so close yet so far.

One thing I always hear people say is that true incels never have friends and a good social life/circle but I say you have never truly experience the true horrors of inceldom until you see your social circle thrive with girls while your life rots and the years go by watching it happen for those around you and never you.

I thought the best way to illustrate this is in pictures. I grew up in the UK in a place and time when the thing that mattered most to girls was who was the loudest or the most aggressive or toughest rather than looks so the true realisation of inceldom didn't hit me until secondary/high school, college and after. I thought girls would appreciate my looks after these times but that never happened because I don't have looks.

For starters here is my best friend for life who is also unfortunately my best looking friend. Serbian but looks italian. Constant interest from girls his whole life but is still self conscious and has low confidence. He actually had to delete his Facebook back before the Tinder days because random girls were adding and messaging him so often on it and now he can't use it becaue his 10/10 girlfriend gets jealous. I'm constantly asked by girls in clubs if he's single and have watched him get approached by girls of all types for our whole friendship. Funny thing is his only reason for going out is to help me get laid which has never worked. Every girl in his workplace wants him and have asked him out :-



Best friends older brother. Taller version of my best friend basically. Grew up idolising this guy. Every girl in school wanted him and eventually, as he looked better with age, the same thing happened with my best friend:-



Another close friend. Part hawaiian but gets mistaken for Asian. Again girls ask me about him whenever they see him and have always been blown away when they see him:-



My friend from school who I went the pub with regularly during my years just after school when I was hoping to meet a girl. He always did well and met his future wife during that time which meant I had to move on and find other friends (that's not me on the right btw, that's his brother):-



Another of my best friends who always got a lot of interest (on right in both pics and I'm on the left). I actually remember being out just me and him and a flock of fat overweight girls on a hen do spotted him and all begged him to go with them because they were looking for a sexy man and acted like I wasn't even there. Stuff like that happened a lot even though he spoke to women like shit when he was drunk:-



My best friends cousin who is also Serbian. We went to stay with him over there for a week. Tip - do not go to Serbia. Skinny model type girls and guys who look like him. A ginger English guy like me had no chance there. Don't think anyone even looked me in the eyes the whole holiday. He is a gamer guy with very little money who has a geeky personality but it didn't stop him getting a cute girlfriend and constant interest whenever he leaves the house:-

https://imgur.com/a/InpsT

A friend of my best friend who came on a lads holiday to Magaluf with us. Despite being out of shape he got interest left right and centre from girls and does whenever I go out with him here too because well...face:-

https://imgur.com/a/Qsfzt

After leaving school I went to college after taking a couple of years out. This was my friend during my college years. We also did work experience together. All the girls in the college class liked him and the girls on the work experience liked him:-

https://imgur.com/a/C0mXJ

I worked with this guy for 2 years during my previous job and sat next to him. I had to sit and watch daily as all the girls in the office flirted with him or looked right through me at him whenever they came into work. I also went to clubs with him and he told me he thought I looked better than him. He asked a group of girls who looked better out of me and him to prove it to me and...well you can guess what they said:-

https://imgur.com/a/Az2zL

This guy is my second best friend and probably my 2nd best looking friend too. He goes between being out of shape to in shape but no matter what he always gets interest but doesn't have the confidence to do anything about it. He is very self conscious but still girls are telling him how handsome he is. We work together and a new cunt girl who works with us laughs at his smallest of jokes whereas she doesn't even look at me:-

https://imgur.com/a/NHpRV

A few other friends who I know through my second best friend. These guys all do better in a month than I have done in my life:-

https://imgur.com/a/penMt

And here's me:-

https://imgur.com/a/FW1rK

So THAT is why I hate being incel basically.
 
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Fuck.This is so fucking sad...
 
Holy shit dude
 
I used to doubt you. Now I realize that you suffer just like the rest of us.

There's a lot of feels here, my dude.

:feelscry::feelscry::feelscry:
 
4/10. have you looksmaxxed?

In these pics?



Well I'm in shape, get my haircut regularly, wear great clothes and have good hygiene. I have had a hair transplant too. So besides further surgeries I guess so.
 
Some of those guys are Chads or damn close to it in America. While I feel for you, I thank you for sharing. You’re truly a hero for enduring such brutalities. I’ve never had friends so this to me would be :feelsautistic::feelsbadman::feelscry::feelsrope::feelsokman:
 
Feelsbadman when you're always surrounded by people who have succes when. You Dont
 
In these pics?



Well I'm in shape, get my haircut regularly, wear great clothes and have good hygiene. I have had a hair transplant too. So besides further surgeries I guess so.

if its possible get a hairline that flows downwards. your forehead is the main problem.
 
I used to doubt you. Now I realize that you suffer just like the rest of us.

There's a lot of feels here, my dude.

:feelscry::feelscry::feelscry:

Thanks mate. My life is suffering. It blows me away when I see people on here talking about how they are depressed with inceldom and they are age 21. I'm an incel veteran and was incel before it was a thing. There just wasn't a place to talk about it like this unfortunately.
 
Thanks mate. My life is suffering. It blows me away when I see people on here talking about how they are depressed with inceldom and they are age 21. I'm an incel veteran and was incel before it was a thing. There just wasn't a place to talk about it like this unfortunately.

I am sorry. This must have been excruciating while growing up. I imagine it's worse now in your 30s, when everyone around you is settling down (you've missed out on FWBs, ONSs, etc.)
 
if its possible get a hairline that flows downwards. your forehead is the main problem.

I agree. I'm saving up for a further hair transplant soon to get it lowered further.
 
Some of those guys are Chads or damn close to it in America. While I feel for you, I thank you for sharing. You’re truly a hero for enduring such brutalities. I’ve never had friends so this to me would be :feelsautistic::feelsbadman::feelscry::feelsrope::feelsokman:

Thanks chin. Means a lot.
 
I am sorry. This must have been excruciating while growing up. I imagine it's worse now in your 30s, when everyone around you is settling down (you've missed out on FWBs, ONSs, etc.)

It is. Worst thing is even older women are looking past me at these guys.

I sometimes which I could project this whole experience onto a girl who looks past me to make them feel and understand my pain and what they have done.
 
Seems like I have too much hope. If you're 4/10, I have no chance at all. Fuck your not deformed and not ugly but 4/10
 
It is. Worst thing is even older women are looking past me at these guys.

I sometimes which I could project this whole experience onto a girl who looks past me to make them feel and understand my pain and what they have done.

These guys (and women) will never understand how we feel. They haven't suffered like we have. No matter how much they throw platitudes at you and "positive" support, they will never be able to connect with you in these issues.

We can only trust each other.
 
It hurts far more when people tell you looks don't matter, or that women have VERY varied taste in men, or that women are far more interested in your personality than your looks, only for that to be proven wrong time and time again. Even worse if it's someone close to you that is unintentionally shoving the black pill down your throat everytime you hang out together.
 
It is. Worst thing is even older women are looking past me at these guys.

I sometimes which I could project this whole experience onto a girl who looks past me to make them feel and understand my pain and what they have done.

If the tech ever got developed that allowed someone to transfer feelings, they’d legislate it the second a guy used it for that purpose. God forbid the woman experience any negative feelings.
 
It hurts far more when people tell you looks don't matter, or that women have VERY varied taste in men, or that women are far more interested in your personality than your looks, only for that to be proven wrong time and time again. Even worse if it's someone close to you that is unintentionally shoving the black pill down your throat everytime you hang out together.

Preach, brother.

I don't want women to pity me. I want them to respect me and tell me the truth, that looks matter. We're being lied to like children.
 
Seems like I have too much hope. If you're 4/10, I have no chance at all. Fuck your not deformed and not ugly but 4/10

Yes but 4/10s like me don't get girls, even ugly girls. They get ignored. And 4/10 is ugly too as it's below 5 which is average whereas 6 and above would be considered good looking.
 
Yes but 4/10s like me don't get girls, even ugly girls. They get ignored. And 4/10 is ugly too as it's below 5 which is average whereas 6 and above would be considered good looking.
Sexual market is so fucking cruel... Damn... U don't even look feminine, u don't really differ from some of your friends, imo
 
Better than life without friends.
 
It hurts far more when people tell you looks don't matter, or that women have VERY varied taste in men, or that women are far more interested in your personality than your looks, only for that to be proven wrong time and time again. Even worse if it's someone close to you that is unintentionally shoving the black pill down your throat everytime you hang out together.

Very true.
 
If the tech ever got developed that allowed someone to transfer feelings, they’d legislate it the second a guy used it for that purpose. God forbid the woman experience any negative feelings.

Strange thing is I see all women as one huge negative collective now. People like my family are shocked at me when I refer to women as "them" i.e. "they have caused my issues".
 
>he has friends
Normie out

Hes just NT.
And taking into account that it hasnt helped him at all, and just made him more concious about the whole situation, being NT just makes his inceldom sadder...
Also, if you cant get a gf, people like me that never had a friend, are mentalcels, uglier than you, cant get a job.... its so fucking over for us. So fucking over. I dont think this kind of life worths in any fucking sense.
This is such a fucking suifuel. It blows my fucking mind. :feelsmega::feelsmega::feelsmega:
 
Strange thing is I see all women as one huge negative collective now. People like my family are shocked at me when I refer to women as "them" i.e. "they have caused my issues".

Makes sense to me.
 
Preach, brother.

I don't want women to pity me. I want them to respect me and tell me the truth, that looks matter. We're being lied to like children.

Strange thing is I think it's past the point where it even matters. Bottom line is, it's happening - women ARE choosing looks. Even if they admit it and it becomes publicly accepted that it's happening it will still continue.

The other issue is girls younger older and the same age as us have already had their personalities shaped. There is no changing it now.
 
Better than life without friends.

I doubt it. If you haven't had friends who do well with women you haven't had friends texting you pictures of girls who are asking them out in work or asking them to travel to places just for sex with them etc.
 
Strange thing is I think it's past the point where it even matters. Bottom line is, it's happening - women ARE choosing looks. Even if they admit it and it becomes publicly accepted that it's happening it will still continue.

The other issue is girls younger older and the same age as us have already had their personalities shaped. There is no changing it now.

Of course it'll continue. That's nature's way of weeding out bad genes like ours.

For me, it's on principle. I want them to admit to their shallowness.
 
This thread should be stickied, imo.
 
Sexual market is so fucking cruel... Damn... U don't even look feminine, u don't really differ from some of your friends, imo

Don't get me wrong a couple of them aren't chads by any means but they are just better than me which is my point. And girls who look far worse than me have swarmed to them over me.

Can't really think of a single one who I'm level with out of those I posted.
 
I don't understand, you look better than some of your 'slayer' friends, maybe it's the ginger hair or the hairline
 
I don't understand, you look better than some of your 'slayer' friends, maybe it's the ginger hair or the hairline

No way. Like who?

Maybe it is. I'm trying to improve the hairline though. Not much I can do about the ginger. I see gingers with hot girls though.
 
good thing I have no friends at all
 
you bear a very uncanny resemblance to this math teacher i had last semester in college

except his face/forehead was more compact
 
I'm so sorry for what you've gone through. I've been lucky enough to not experience this first hand because I never had a friend group but it hurts reading this. But I feel anger more than anything. If this was the only drawback to women, and everything else about them was okay, I'd be alright. But knowing that this is just one of a million things that are fucked up about females just enrages me.
 
brutal pill, people like to call "Volcel!" if you LDAR but whats the point in trying so hard if you can accurately and unbiasedly judge the outcome?

LDAR/monk/escort is the only way.you put in 1000% effort but its not like youre gonna magically go super saiyan one day and everything will be good.

HEIGHT

FACE

FRAME

(and NT)
 

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