Serious The thought of suicide will haunt me forever: how do you accept being mediocre.

[Jerek]

This is the kind of thread i'd post on a psychologist forum, having some female doctor saying me that the things that concerns me are not important etc etc, but right now it's one of those moment where i wish so hard i'd be brave enough to jump from my apartment (i live on a really high floor) and hoping i fall head first.

I'm almost 35. I'm less than average in everything concerning physical looks. My face is less-than-average, my body is average (just because i try to keep myself fit), my dick is a bit less than 15 cm.. dunno, average? less than average? We know average isn't enough, anyway, because women wants more.

The thought than, even if i get a girlfriend, she would settle with me... it's devastating.

If i was able to get one night stands, being not attractive and having a 6' dick would hurt me because girls would probably not come back to me... the big problem here is that i wish to love and be loved, and i cannot immagine a relationship where she is settling with me (so she would be an insecure girl like me, probably ugly too) and she stays with me while wishing to be fucked hard by a better male.

There are a lot of people that can live with that, i wish to be able to be like them but i have no idea how to do so. I wish i'd be able to ignore my flaws, but i do not possess the capacity. In the moment i go out from my house and i see a hot girl with a hot guy, or a hot guy being clearly confident because he was lucky, i'm back to square one.

When i see a couple where he's ugly (and she's usually too) i do not envy them, because i can just imagine that yes, maybe they "love" each other, but she is probably suppressing her instinct to seek a better male because she's afraid to remain alone. Maybe she cheats. Maybe he choose the path of being a willing cuck, something that is fucking degenerate but in my worst moments i think i somehow get the thought behind it: you get to stay with the girl you love and you get to watch here screams in pleasure by being fucked that a bigger and better male, that kind of pleasure you're not able to give her. But i could never do something like that, would you call it a relationship?

In the past i've seeked medical help but the only thing they can do is give your meds or trying to talk you into that "those things doesn't matter, sex is not just penetration, beauty isn't everything".

I fucking wish i'd be able to be sold on that shit.

 

[GoonCel]

high iq post tbh

 

[HighTGymcel]

 

[Numb]

Don't wish to be drugged by lies. I've considered suicide for multiple years now and I understand that I will never be more than "below average". Thing is. Who gives a fuck. I exist because my parents wanted to create a being. I am this being. While yes i've failed my pre-decided "purpose" of being able to pro-create. Why do I give a fuck about pro-creation? Why do I need to follow these directives. I failed the game before I started it so why bother trying to play it? Is it really "you" that wants or even cares about some dumb whore touching your dick or is it the society telling you you're a fucking failure? Is it your hormones telling you that you're "lonley" and you ((((NEED))) someone to be with? Let's say you magically find some slut and you feel happy af over her sucking your dick. The "mighty and powerful female blessed your existence". What a fucking pathetic existence. People can respond by saying "cope". But in reality we're all being imprisoned and forced into giving these parasitic foids "value". "We're useless if we can't appease the GOD FOIDS!!!!! time to neck!!!!!!". Fuck the foids. They've produced nothing and wont ever will. They've been leaching off of men for decades and decades until they become useless to them and carry onto the next specimen to consume.
To desire and want something that doesn't want or even cares about you is the worst possible example of a cuck i've ever seen. And the irony is I AM THAT CUCK.

 

[Joelossus]

I srsly hate how fucking blue pilled most psychologists still are.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

You're a flawed being in a flawed world. Nothing shameful about it.

Biological imperatives are just that. A result of cells not engaging in procreation dying off, leaving those with a stronger desire behind, finally forming complex life with the same longing. Doesn't mean there is any inherent sense to it.

Same with attraction. Just try to accept it as what it is, stupid biological mechanisms.

If she cucks you, she cucks you. Doesn't mean your own love was pointless for the time being or that there is some evilness in her actions. It's cope, but it is an honest cope. She might cuck you, but at least you don't get mentally cucked by nature, being a step ahead.

I don't mean that we shouldn't work to improve the system, quite the contrary, I for one decided to try to make this world a better place with the mere abilities given to me, but you can only do so much and have to be realistic.

Maybe brotherly love could give us some relieve idk.

Maybe philosophy has some more answrs for you, absurdism or stoicism for example.

It usually takes some time until you find a medicament, that helps you. Try not to give up so fast.

 

[Vlone]

I prioritize the things in life that I actually have control over, like my job and my fitness

How do I accept being mediocre? Doing whatever I can to block out the haunting loneliness and things in my life that make me mediocre. Most incels are avid daydreamers, so I try to live in my dream world at every available moment that doesn't have to do with my job/fitness/etc.

 

[Deleted member 16455]

I srsly hate how fucking blue pilled most psychologists still are.

yeah. looks are everything and you cant deny that.

 

[Angry_runt]

I failed the game before I started it so why bother trying to play it?

High IQ.

Although... it's the only game in town as far as your deepest motivations are concerned.

 

[Numb]

High IQ.

Although... it's the only game in town as far as your deepest motivations are concerned.

Because we've been enslaved to look at it that way. Females are parasites that want us to only focus on their existence. Anything of depth is considered "cope" and weak to them.

 

[Jerek]

Don't wish to be drugged by lies. I've considered suicide for multiple years now and I understand that I will never be more than "below average". Thing is. Who gives a fuck. I exist because my parents wanted to create a being. I am this being. While yes i've failed my pre-decided "purpose" of being able to pro-create. Why do I give a fuck about pro-creation? Why do I need to follow these directives. I failed the game before I started it so why bother trying to play it? Is it really "you" that wants or even cares about some dumb whore touching your dick or is it the society telling you you're a fucking failure? Is it your hormones telling you that you're "lonley" and you ((((NEED))) someone to be with? Let's say you magically find some slut and you feel happy af over her sucking your dick. The "mighty and powerful female blessed your existence". What a fucking pathetic existence. People can respond by saying "cope". But in reality we're all being imprisoned and forced into giving these parasitic foids "value". "We're useless if we can't appease the GOD FOIDS!!!!! time to neck!!!!!!". Fuck the foids. They've produced nothing and wont ever will. They've been leaching off of men for decades and decades until they become useless to them and carry onto the next specimen to consume.
To desire and want something that doesn't want or even cares about you is the worst possible example of a cuck i've ever seen. And the irony is I AM THAT CUCK.

I can't delude myself into thinking that "i don't give a fuck" about those things. I'm a human being and i have insincts. It's harder and harder, through getting older, to rationally think that i'll be in this situation forever. When i was a teen or early '20 i remember jacking off every time i had this kind of urge and then having that peaceful feeling that allowed me to pursue videogaming and other hobbies (from home).

Now it's different. If i jack off, all i'm left is a dreadful feeling that i'm sure the older people among you could perfectly understand.

I'm pretty sure that while i'd like to have sex with good looking women, it's not that. I want that feeling of trusting someone else, to not spend my time thinking about women as "foids" just because i'm not good enough and women are programmed to seek good males.

And on top of that, the world would think of my problem as being "trivial", because "a lot of ugly guys are engaged" and shit like that. I cannot accept that i'm someone that a woman would choose only to settle with.

I wish i could be able to be drugget by lies, i wish i could be able to be bluepilled, i've got a friend of my age, he's also virgin (and even uglier than me) and unfortunately very unlucky, but somehow he has this capacity to cope and think that he's in this situation because "he's lazy" and not because he's fucking ugly. I envy him.

You're a flawed being in a flawed world. Nothing shameful about it.

Biological imperatives are just that. A result of cells not engaging in procreation dying off, leaving those with a stronger desire behind, finally forming complex life with the same longing. Doesn't mean there is any inherent sense to it.

Same with attraction. Just try to accept it as what it is, stupid biological mechanisms.

If she cucks you, she cucks you. Doesn't mean your own love was pointless for the time being or that there is some evilness in her actions. It's cope, but it is an honest cope. She might cuck you, but at least you don't get mentally cucked by nature, being a step ahead.

I don't mean that we shouldn't work to improve the system, quite the contrary, I for one decided to try to make this world a better place with the mere abilities given to me, but you can only do so much and have to be realistic.

Maybe brotherly love could give us some relieve idk.

Maybe philosophy has some more answrs for you, absurdism or stoicism for example.

It usually takes some time until you find a medicament, that helps you. Try not to give up so fast.

"If she cucks you, she cucks you.": i'm not strong willed enough that i could endure being cucked by someone I LOVE. From some random girl, yes, it would be nasty but not terrible. But if i open my heart and share my feelings to another woman and she, because of her imperatives, cucks me with a guy with a bigger dick that makes her screams of pleasure while i can't... no, it would be too much.

Maybe by becoming older i'll realize that i won't really have any chance.

Brotherly love... my best friend (the ugly virgin one i've mentioned the post above) is almost like a brother, but he's really bluepilled and i can't connect with him on this kind of answer... and i don't insist to "convert" jhim, because in our situation i prefer him to stay peaceful in his thoughts.

About meds... i've tried those but i had no real benefit and i was scared of permanent effect... i remember my libido going almost to zero, that alone made me feel more depressed that not taking meds.

I srsly hate how fucking blue pilled most psychologists still are.

I think a blackpilled psychologist is kinda an oxymoron. I mean, if he has to help you getting over a temporary situation (ie: parent died) it could probably work, because everyone will, at some moment of their life, lose their parents... But if i go to a psychologist, maybe a woman, and i tell her that i suffer because i'm not good looking and i'm not well endowed, so i'll never be able to make a woman happy, OF COURSE she would bring me to "therapy" and having me spending lots of $$$ talking about nothing... because if she said "yes, we crave for good looking men with big penis and we settle just to feel safe in a relationship" the "therapy" would be over in 5 minutes.

 

[Numb]

I can't delude myself into thinking that "i don't give a fuck" about those things. I'm a human being and i have insincts.

This is what's cucking you friend. The idea of these "instincts" forcing you to want to impress these "foids" is the ultimate epitome of a cuck. "My existence must be based on impressing foids!, if I fail I am useless". This is exactly what they want you to think. Do you really want to sit there and impress "mistress" with your shit every day so she can reassure herself that you aren't useless? Look at the position your "instincts" are putting you in.
Some of the greatest and most intelligent men on the planet never even got pussy. Hell, they even thought getting it was a waste of time. And they figured out things no one else could. And created things no one else could. They lived with full "purpose" and are in everyones textbooks to this day.
"to not spend my time thinking about women as "foids" just because i'm not good enough and women are programmed to seek good males."

Do you honestly think that looking at females as "foids" is a response based on bitterness and deluded ignorance? It's the simple truth. Look up evolutionary psychology books and see for yourself. "Foids" act this way even in other species. The "desire" for these entities is what's putting your mind in a state where you think your "purpose" or "usefulness" is solely based on what they think of you. That's pathetic man. I don't know you and I know that your existence is more valuable and purposeful and not based on what a foid thinks of you.

"I cannot accept that i'm someone that a woman would choose only to settle with."

This is just proving my point. You're basing your entire self on what some dumb foid thinks or values of you. You're more than just what "a foid will settle with". Forget the foids.

"I want that feeling of trusting someone else"

I can't say anything to that. I can't change the way you view the world or what you want. But what you're basing the world and "you" is based on what someone else thinks of you. Rather, what multiple parasites think of you. You are a human. Your "instincts" (Hormones) that are desperate to cuck themselves and impress foids are trying to rationalize you into thinking your whole existence is to be with them that your whole "value" is based off of them. And it perceives that you have no "value". but to each their own. Hope you change your mind before you do something stupid to yourself

 

[Cuyen]

you just learn how to cope with it over the time

 

[Bakura806]

Once you are suicidal you will always be suicidal, there only thing that you can do is rope or deal with it till you die another way.

 

[Insomniac]

You're a flawed being in a flawed world.

 

[Jerek]

This is what's cucking you friend. The idea of these "instincts" forcing you to want to impress these "foids" is the ultimate epitome of a cuck. "My existence must be based on impressing foids!, if I fail I am useless". This is exactly what they want you to think. Do you really want to sit there and impress "mistress" with your shit every day so she can reassure herself that you aren't useless? Look at the position your "instincts" are putting you in.
Some of the greatest and most intelligent men on the planet never even got pussy. Hell, they even thought getting it was a waste of time. And they figured out things no one else could. And created things no one else could. They lived with full "purpose" and are in everyones textbooks to this day.
"to not spend my time thinking about women as "foids" just because i'm not good enough and women are programmed to seek good males."

Do you honestly think that looking at females as "foids" is a response based on bitterness and deluded ignorance? It's the simple truth. Look up evolutionary psychology books and see for yourself. "Foids" act this way even in other species. The "desire" for these entities is what's putting your mind in a state where you think your "purpose" or "usefulness" is solely based on what they think of you. That's pathetic man. I don't know you and I know that your existence is more valuable and purposeful and not based on what a foid thinks of you.

"I cannot accept that i'm someone that a woman would choose only to settle with."

This is just proving my point. You're basing your entire self on what some dumb foid thinks or values of you. You're more than just what "a foid will settle with". Forget the foids.

"I want that feeling of trusting someone else"

I can't say anything to that. I can't change the way you view the world or what you want. But what you're basing the world and "you" is based on what someone else thinks of you. Rather, what multiple parasites think of you. You are a human. Your "instincts" (Hormones) that are desperate to cuck themselves and impress foids are trying to rationalize you into thinking your whole existence is to be with them that your whole "value" is based off of them. And it perceives that you have no "value". but to each their own. Hope you change your mind before you do something stupid to yourself

My man, i appreciate your kind of reasoning, but the problem is that i wanna fuck those women and, THEN, stay with a woman which i like to be with.

How do you suppress this instinct?

Escorteclling? I tried, but aside from an exception (i'm kinda addicted to this 23-years old model girl) it's really sad after i empty my ballsack. Also, i fear STD's.

 

[Numb]

My man, i appreciate your kind of reasoning, but the problem is that i wanna fuck those women and, THEN, stay with a woman which i like to be with.

How do you suppress this instinct?

Escorteclling? I tried, but aside from an exception (i'm kinda addicted to this 23-years old model girl) it's really sad after i empty my ballsack. Also, i fear STD's.

What i've discovered is that this "instinct" is based off of our testosterone levels. I experimented with this not too long ago. I googled shit that would lower T levels. Stuff like licorice tea or chaste-berry come to mind. Throughout the months my desire to want to be with a foid or even fuck or jack off declined tremendously. This proves my point that perhaps these "ideas" are simply results of these "drug hormones" that invade your mind and make you think the way you think (me too, everyone really). Here's some sources

Testosterone and cognitive function: current clinical evidence of a relationship - PubMed

Low endogenous levels of testosterone may be related to reduced cognitive ability, and testosterone substitution may improve some aspects of cognitive ability. Measurement of serum testosterone should be considered in older men with cognitive dysfunction. For men with both cognitive impairment...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The presence of a woman increases testosterone in aggressive dominant men - PubMed

In line with the challenge hypothesis, this study investigated the effects of the presence of a woman on the testosterone (T) levels of young men. An informal contact with a woman of approximately 5 min resulted in an increase in salivary T among men. These effects occurred particularly in men...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Testosterone and dominance in men - PubMed

In men, high levels of endogenous testosterone (T) seem to encourage behavior intended to dominate--to enhance one's status over--other people. Sometimes dominant behavior is aggressive, its apparent intent being to inflict harm on another person, but often dominance is expressed...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Chasteberry is the fruit of the chaste tree, which is native to Central Asia and the Mediterranean region. The plant was believed to promote chastity (hence its name). Monks in the Middle Ages reportedly used it to decrease sexual desire. - Source: https://nccih.nih.gov/health/chasteberry

Though the issue is the fact that low T is a double edged sword. But you just need to figure out how much u want these "foids" and how low you can go without effecting your mood or something
And don't count this as a shill or something. I have no idea if this shit would even work but it's an idea. I would also try to just not wank off to foids I heard that you get to a point where your brain "adapts" and doesn't give a fuck about foids anymore

up to u

 

[Saung-Hui Cho]

It’s funny when I went to a psychiatrist he said I should go out and meet people. Bro you don’t think I’ve tried that? No one wants to hang out with an ugly dude. If they do, it’s simply to bleed resources in some way.

My man, i appreciate your kind of reasoning, but the problem is that i wanna fuck those women and, THEN, stay with a woman which i like to be with.

How do you suppress this instinct?

Escorteclling? I tried, but aside from an exception (i'm kinda addicted to this 23-years old model girl) it's really sad after i empty my ballsack. Also, i fear STD's.

You can’t. Even castration won’t take away desire for foids.