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Blackpill The sexual revolution was a good thing

Only if you jam it in right away. That shit happened in Victorian/Christian eras because men weren't educated about foreplay so they weren't warming her up first and getting her excited.

Hygiene probably had something to do with that. We have a lot better access to stuff like soap and hot water, so fingering / oral sex has much less risk of disease since both parties can bathe first.

It also has nothing to do with ownership: if you voluntarily agree to be married, this is a duty. Not fulfilling it should be grounds for divorcing her without alimony.


Blackpill is acknowledging that genetics play a stronger role in partner selection.
Redpill is thinking personality / lifestyle plays a bigger role.

Aside from favouring one approach, these pills are not as far apart as some play at. They both acknowledge the importance of both factors (nature and nurture) but have different perspective on priority.

Obviously redpill/nurture is a more hope-inspiring approach since it makes fate seem more malleable in an age where DNA can't be significantly rewritten.


I don't think that traditionalism necessarily means reverting to the past in all, or even MOST respects. It may just be cherrypicking a few good ideas from there. That's some people's take on religion/philosophy too.


Life is a death sentence unless we deveope super life extension tech or get magical ghost powers.

Inceldom is merely a blue balls sentence combined with other depressing aspects of life which gradually kill us by giving us ulcers or making us more susceptible to cancers, unless someone decides to an hero because they've lost hope due to cognitive distortions like what you spread above ("admit defeat")


Yes, saying it's a workable theory doesn't mean we're necessarily confident we'd know how to put the theory into action.


Wrong: even if given a chance to cheat, some of them would not, for fear of being discovered. They would only act on these chances if they thought they could get away with it.

That is : VERY OFTEN, because women are masters of deception. But not ANY given chance.


That is so fucking RARE, as women barely ever commit suicide. They are masters of coping by spreading for their conquerors.

Whenever this oddity pops up, it's naturally selected against if the woman an-heroines before she breeds.

Besides, in a world with arranged marriages, they wouldn't need to be FORCED ones, so if she really is fixed on handsome-son, she can stay a spinster hoping for his wife to die. As she gradually falls into poverty (because no welfare bux for her, no easy jobs because of thirsty males pretending she contributes) she might be willing to open her legs to a non-chad, and maybe eventually her heart.


You can never stop ALL of them, sure, but you can introduce factors to dissuade SOME. The point is to improve a system, not perfect it.

The problem with the above approach is the lack of equal punishment for Chad, IMO. Whatever the punishment is, which need not be violent.


I think you're shortsighted here if you view 100% regressive traditionalism as the only incarnation of it.

Obviously the past did not work (it led to now) so we'd have to remodel it.


Nature sets the table but it can be steered.

I have a natural impulse to want to beat people to death and I curb it all the time. If I can do that, women can curb their hamster-brained desire to be sluts to chad if we appeal to other Maslow's needs, like for example not paying for their housing/food if they engage in behavior we do not like. Chad only has so many pizzas to share, so eventually he will not share his pizza with pathetic Beckys, and their hunger and shivering coldness will distract her from Chad's cock as she finds some work she can actually do, instead of the fake work that thirsty orbiter bosses hand to women in hopes of a pity-fuck despite being eternally friendzoned.


I must intellectually agree with hopelessness in any system. It's at worst just 99.99% hopeless. It's... hope-deficient. Hypohopeful.

If systemic changes can reduce this to only 99.97% hopeless... well why not talk about it?


It does. You start at a baseline of 0.03% chance of getting sex. Squatting gives you +0.02% chance of sex and drinking gives you -0.01% chance of sex. You can't dispute these facts, fren


That's because Chad has higher baseline chances.

He's got like base 20% chance of pussy, drinking is -2%, squatting is +10%, so he will varry between 18% and 30%, and doesn't have to repeat as often to find someone cooperative.


Except that there is no impartial way of classifying someone's life that way except retroactively. If they don't get laid (like Isaac Newton) they're supposedly incel, but if they do get laid (like Edgar Allen Poe) then you won't acknowledge him.

How far apart were they, really?

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I don't know about you, but to me it looks like Newton had better facial aesthetics than Poe did. Yet Poe is the one who got to fuck a cute teen bride Virginia Clemm for a decade before tuberculosis killed her, who had a cuckquean fetish so she was asking Fanny Osgoode to come over and fuck her husband:
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I realize this is "hey, just be a famous writer" which is an unrealistic aspiration for most guys, but it does prove that doing great accomplishments can help you attain not just a looksmatch but even a woman 1 or 2 points better than you.

It's not 100% over, it's just 99.99% over for most of us who won't be talented enough to reach the top of a specific field to impress a foid.
"It's not 100% over, it's just 99.99% over for most of us who won't be talented enough to reach the top of a specific field to impress a foid."
Oh yeah, i've never denied the status pill. Its very real. But the sad thing is only a few men are gonna make it in the top % of a field, so its over for the rest of us.

High iq post tho ngl
 
Their tastes in partners are influenced massively by movies, the fashion industry, trends, social media, even their friends crircle.
Yet amazingly the idea of what a chad should look like has remained relatively stable in the west for the past 2000 years. See Greek statues and gods concerning the ideal male form. Roman gladiators and gods in roman art. See how Jesus was painted in paintings during the medieval period. Its almost as if female and male ideas of beauty are genetically inbuilt and effect broader culture. Its like we are designed to prefer facial symmetry and strong facial bone growth in men. Have you ever wondered why they don't put truecels in movie roles?
 
I would not mind being chaste until marriage, if it meant I was able to meet a virgin woman who could potentially be my wife. . . but that is an impossibility in today's world.
 
Well thought out post OP. It is true that arranged marriages are a big cope. Most foids get sold off to the highest bidder and there is no chemistry/attraction. Where i live, this is still common practice and this arrangement seems to produce a lot of children but comes at the cost of validation/love.

But having said that, hypergamy has been a terrible side effect of the sexual revolution. Noone could have predicted that things would get this bad for most men. If only whores were attracted to their looksmatch, things wouldnt suck so much for non-chad men.
 
Well thought out post OP. It is true that arranged marriages are a big cope. Most foids get sold off to the highest bidder and there is no chemistry/attraction. Where i live, this is still common practice and this arrangement seems to produce a lot of children but comes at the cost of validation/love.

But having said that, hypergamy has been a terrible side effect of the sexual revolution. Noone could have predicted that things would get this bad for most men. If only whores were attracted to their looksmatch, things wouldnt suck so much for non-chad men.
There is no such thing as love. "Love" is a male fiction. We want it to exist, but it doesn't. The reality isn't love, but lust. Females lust for certain kinds of males. Males want to "love" their female partners, but females partners simply want to use their male partners. You can observe this in females when they are liberated. They are never happy with one man, even gigachad. They must cheat.
 
There is no such thing as love. "Love" is a male fiction. We want it to exist, but it doesn't. The reality isn't love, but lust. Females lust for certain kinds of males. Males want to "love" their female partners, but females partners simply want to use their male partners. You can observe this in females when they are liberated. They are never happy with one man, even gigachad. They must cheat.

Like i said, hypergamy was an undesirable consequence and we (sub-6 men) are paying the price. Love and lust can, for the most part, be used interchangeably today. Blind or unconditional love is a blue pilled myth and most here who believe a foid should love them unconditionally when they bring nothing to the table (either genetic value or monetary) are nothing but entitled delusional children.
 
patriarchal society didn't mean neither arranged marriages nor cousin marriage. Just marrying a girl from your village or a village nearby you like when she's 18.
 
Yet amazingly the idea of what a chad should look like has remained relatively stable in the west for the past 2000 years. See Greek statues and gods concerning the ideal male form. Roman gladiators and gods in roman art. See how Jesus was painted in paintings during the medieval period. Its almost as if female and male ideas of beauty are genetically inbuilt and effect broader culture. Its like we are designed to prefer facial symmetry and strong facial bone growth in men. Have you ever wondered why they don't put truecels in movie roles?

The epitome of beauty during one period in ancient greece was having a small penis and zero lips, they said it made you look like a lion, which is what they were aiming for. Cultures around the world literally disfigure their necks, feet, mouths and asses to appear beautiful in their own standards JFL. A lot of European ideals came out of the post 15.century and shaped up in the romanticist era, as did the pervailing depiction of Christ as a white blue eyed dude. There is no major evolutionary advantage in prefering blue eyes, the same goes with blonde hair or light skin. Yet women disproportionately go for white men.

But having said that, hypergamy has been a terrible side effect of the sexual revolution. Noone could have predicted that things would get this bad for most men. If only whores were attracted to their looksmatch, things wouldnt suck so much for non-chad men.

Unless you're one of the oldcels your chances really ended with social media, not sexual revolution.
 
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For accelerationism, yes. We need to reach and pass the last stages of primitive human interaction and male-sex- female dependance along with singularity.
 
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Unless you're one of the oldcels your chances really ended with social media, not sexual revolution.

Social media only exacerbated an already existing problem.
 
The fuck this has to be the lowest IQ post on the entire site :lul: This post literally says that instead sexually repressing women we should allow them to fuck chads daily jfl. OP here is a suggestion if you want to appear as high IQ by conflicting with a general opinion at least try not to sound like a complete braindead cuck.
 
The fuck this has to be the lowest IQ post on the entire site :lul: This post literally says that instead sexually repressing women we should allow them to fuck chads daily jfl. OP here is a suggestion if you want to appear as high IQ by conflicting with a general opinion at least try not to sound like a complete braindead cuck.

Look around you, you're already living under a partriarchy, women are fucking alpha males like they did throughout history. In the olden times you'd be toiling under KING CHAD who'd demand to fuck your virgin bride on YOUR wedding night, and he'd do it by the divine right of the crown.
 
This is retarded beyond words.

Who let this guy in here?
 
OP is wrong and has been debunked in the comments. Sexual revolution has been a problem in massive levels of inceldom, and promiscuity between chad and foids.
 
If there's anything worse than being an incel, is being a tradcel.
married couples started sleeping in separate beds after their first child was born
Husbands who don't get regular sex from their wives are also incels.

Why are you treating them like a separate group?
 

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