The sex act means nothing, being desired is what ascension is

[daydreamER]

If you have ever been desired by a woman, even once in your life, you have ascended. You are not an incel. This may be obvious to some users, but I have met people that HAVE been desired by women yet because they have not had intercourse, they choose to call themselves incel. That is why escortcels are still incels, they have never actually been desired by a woman. That is why, arguably, betabuxx could be considered as incel, because they are not desired for anything but their money.

This is probably a water post for most of you, but I wanted to make it clear what "ascension" is. The very problem with inceldom is that we have never been desired, that is why it is so torturous. We have nobody that wants us except maybe those who are biologically obligated to love us, our family. To add something, this is why ascension is only really possible when foids do not have any monetary incentive to desire you such as in school or university, or if they think you are broke.

 

[Animecel2D]

I will never be desired by a woman

 

[curryboy420]

In university they're pretty big gold diggers bruh maybe in school it's "pure"

 

[daydreamER]

In university they're pretty big gold diggers bruh maybe in school it's "pure"

Are they? You are usually broke in university and if they are doing the same degree they are projected to make the same or more than you anyway.

 

[curryboy420]

Are they? You are usually broke in university and if they are doing the same degree they are projected to make the same or more than you anyway.

Bro are u dumb firstly some people do better degrees and do better at exams from the beginning which is clear indication you will succeed and everyone has parents and some people have very wealthy parents and some are broke as fuck. You do realise the majority of your wealth is dependent on the wealth of your parents.

 

[curryboy420]

Are they? You are usually broke in university and if they are doing the same degree they are projected to make the same or more than you anyway.

I knew this fat obese Arab cunt whos dad was a millionaire doctor and lots of girls hung out with him even though he was objectively really fucking ugly both body and facially. He was a fat mess and rode off his dad's money.

 

[daydreamER]

Bro are u dumb firstly some people do better degrees and do better at exams from the beginning which is clear indication you will succeed and everyone has parents and some people have very wealthy parents and some are broke as fuck. You do realise the majority of your wealth is dependent on the wealth of your parents.

Don't tell me there are girls dating guys in university in the hopes of them doing better in the future, that simply doesn't happen. The betabuxx hunter phase starts after university. Maybe this happens in curryland but not in the west.

 

[curryboy420]

Don't tell me there are girls dating guys in university in the hopes of them doing better in the future, that simply doesn't happen. The betabuxx hunter phase starts after university. Maybe this happens in curryland but not in the west.

Nigger what are u on about and that one was the weaker point the main point is the fags with rich parents and unlimited credit cards and new cars and shit u mong. Which shirhole Indian village university did you go. To where you didn't see rich kids

 

[Enigmaz]

'Showers and therapy will make you more desirable'

 

[KhatcodaiA3]

In university they're pretty big gold diggers bruh maybe in school it's "pure"

Not anymore, since every kid before the age of 11 has unregulated access to the internet

 

[Skyrim]

If you have ever been desired by a woman, even once in your life, you have ascended. You are not an incel. This may be obvious to some users, but I have met people that HAVE been desired by women yet because they have not had intercourse, they choose to call themselves incel. That is why escortcels are still incels, they have never actually been desired by a woman. That is why, arguably, betabuxx could be considered as incel, because they are not desired for anything but their money.

This is probably a water post for most of you, but I wanted to make it clear what "ascension" is. The very problem with inceldom is that we have never been desired, that is why it is so torturous. We have nobody that wants us except maybe those who are biologically obligated to love us, our family. To add something, this is why ascension is only really possible when foids do not have any monetary incentive to desire you such as in school or university, or if they think you are broke.

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

Tbh nobody but the most volcel fuckers is gonna have been desired by a woman and not accepted the opportunity to fuck

 

[Roastie Crusher]

many betabuxxers believe they're desired and get to raw dog and cum in a pussy. all i've gotten is plastic stimulation from paid public toilets.

 

[Grodd]

'Showers and therapy will make you more desirable'

 

[Abacaxi14]

I ve never been desired in my entire life.

And there is nothing that I can do to change this. Nothing.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

I will never be desired by a woman

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the smiley on his cap looks so happy the contrast is rather eerie

 

[Animecel2D]

the smiley on his cap looks so happy the contrast is rather eerie

Now that you mention it yeah it does look eerie

 

[psyop]

High IQ

 

[psyop]

Tbh nobody but the most volcel fuckers is gonna have been desired by a woman and not accepted the opportunity to fuck

I’d imagine it’s mostly Muslims that fit this category. Some remain volcel simply because their devotion to god overpowers their lust

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

I’d imagine it’s mostly Muslims that fit this category. Some remain volcel simply because their devotion to god overpowers their lust

Yeah that much religion is insane, can’t imagine torturing yourself over religion lol.

 

[psyop]

Yeah that much religion is insane, can’t imagine torturing yourself over religion lol.

It’s respectable to not be be a slave to your desires. The rule doesn’t forbid you from having sex altogether, instead it forbids intercourse before marriage. Society would be much better if this rule was implemented with the appropriate punishments:

- For unmarried individuals - 100 lashes and exile for a year
- For married individuals - stoning to death

 

[daydreamER]

I’d imagine it’s mostly Muslims that fit this category. Some remain volcel simply because their devotion to god overpowers their lust

Let's be honest though this is pretty rare. The vast majority of the time they cannot control their lust. Every muslim guy I know who can get girls, does. I think that of those men the majority don't do sex before marriage, but I could be wrong.

 

[psyop]

Let's be honest though this is pretty rare. The vast majority of the time they cannot control their lust. Every muslim guy I know who can get girls, does. I think that of those men the majority don't do sex before marriage, but I could be wrong.

Yes very rare. I only know 2 guys that are waiting for my marriage. But they still chat to girls and know they’re desired - that’s their ascension sorted

 

[TheAbsoluteMaximum]

You know those gifs and videos of girls looking at guys all dreamily? I’ll never have that hehehe

 

[B33troot]

There's no such thing as "ascension" for incels.

There's no such thing as "ascension" for incels. Simply finding a GF and having sex with her does not count as "ascension". It just means you lucked out. And given your looks, there's an extremely high chance that she'll leave you and that you'll go back to being an incel. Your time with the GF...

incels.is

 

[Pikacel]

Agreed. You can’t say you’re incel if a woman actually showed desire for and interest in you. I couldn’t even conceive of that ever happening to me.

It’s just too unrealistic, like me winning a meaningful confrontation or riding a unicorn pony to harry potter land while killing green jew devils with a magical laser fleshlight

All of us actual incels have recieved nothing but disgust or indifference from foid

 

[KillNiggers]

Never desired in my life.

 

[fullofchagrin]

If you have ever been desired by a woman, even once in your life, you have ascended. You are not an incel. This may be obvious to some users, but I have met people that HAVE been desired by women yet because they have not had intercourse, they choose to call themselves incel. That is why escortcels are still incels, they have never actually been desired by a woman. That is why, arguably, betabuxx could be considered as incel, because they are not desired for anything but their money.

This is probably a water post for most of you, but I wanted to make it clear what "ascension" is. The very problem with inceldom is that we have never been desired, that is why it is so torturous. We have nobody that wants us except maybe those who are biologically obligated to love us, our family. To add something, this is why ascension is only really possible when foids do not have any monetary incentive to desire you such as in school or university, or if they think you are broke.

weak post. I've never been desired by a female, but if an obese sheboon wanted me and I rejected her, that would not mean I am not an incel or tha I am a volcel

 

[daydreamER]

weak post. I've never been desired by a female, but if an obese sheboon wanted me and I rejected her, that would not mean I am not an incel or tha I am a volcel

I don't believe that an actual incel would even have the capacity to attract an obese sheboon. If that happened, your incel status is revoked and you would be a standardcel or volcel. But to an extent I agree, true ascension is being desired by a foid around your looks level.

 

[AntoCel]

The feeling of being wanted by a woman, you knowing that the she genuinly wants you and wants to spend time with you and touch you and do stuff together and bare your children it must be so blisfull, i can barely imagine it, let alone fully comprehend. I hate it, man

 

[D. B. Gooner]

That is why escortcels are still incels, they have never actually been desired by a woman. That is why, arguably, betabuxx could be considered as incel, because they are not desired for anything but their money.

By definition they can't be considered an incel, but I agree they are no better than incels, just as miserable, if not even more.

 

[based_meme]

Correct. Ascension is when you're desired, which is why it's a fucking meme, because we're the undesirables.

 

[starystulejarz]

I will never be desired by a woman

 

[starystulejarz]

We are the untermensch

while Chad is

 

[oldNgreycel]

I will never be desired by a woman

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[OutcompetedByRoomba]

If you have ever been desired by a woman, even once in your life, you have ascended. You are not an incel. This may be obvious to some users, but I have met people that HAVE been desired by women yet because they have not had intercourse, they choose to call themselves incel. That is why escortcels are still incels, they have never actually been desired by a woman. That is why, arguably, betabuxx could be considered as incel, because they are not desired for anything but their money.

This is probably a water post for most of you, but I wanted to make it clear what "ascension" is. The very problem with inceldom is that we have never been desired, that is why it is so torturous. We have nobody that wants us except maybe those who are biologically obligated to love us, our family. To add something, this is why ascension is only really possible when foids do not have any monetary incentive to desire you such as in school or university, or if they think you are broke.

Think this is partly correct but, as always on this site, it lacks nuance. If I can find a 105 year old granny who thinks your a good catch, are your incel-days now over? Have you left behind your past life and ascended to a better plane of existence? Why not?

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There should be no shame in wanting to be desired by a girl who is at least a little bit desirable in your eyes as well. Some Incels don't dare to ask for this openly because they are afraid having standards of any kind isn't allowed for them, which is nonsense. It would be absurdly stupid, even for us, to argue for such a position, just so we can claim that we aren't "fakecels" or something similar.

To be desired is key. Women are desired constantly, by men who are above them in terms of looks, money, personality, you name it. They have easy access to sex, intimacy, love and all these other experiences which make life worth living.

Ascending makes no sense to me as a concept, because w/e you have done to get a girl to fuck you, you likely are still towards the very bottom of the sexual hierarchy. You will not be able to reliably make women desire you, neither ugly nor pretty ones. The whole idea of "ascending" doesn't exist because it makes sense or works well for us, it exists because most incels would find it intolerable to share spaces with men who got laid without paying for it.

Yes, desire is what it's all about, but ascending isn't that important as a milestone. Most men who ascend still have no real power on the sexual market, are still desperate, still fucked for life. We make a big deal out of it, but you could ascend tomorrow and, if you don't get into a relationship with that same girl afterwards, that might end up being the one and only time you get laid.

Women are nobles, we are beggars on the street. Does the beggar dream of eating food exactly once? No, he dreams of being so rich, he can eat whenever and whatever he wants.

 

[kcarrots]

If you have ever been desired by a woman, even once in your life, you have ascended. You are not an incel. This may be obvious to some users, but I have met people that HAVE been desired by women yet because they have not had intercourse, they choose to call themselves incel. That is why escortcels are still incels, they have never actually been desired by a woman. That is why, arguably, betabuxx could be considered as incel, because they are not desired for anything but their money.

This is probably a water post for most of you, but I wanted to make it clear what "ascension" is. The very problem with inceldom is that we have never been desired, that is why it is so torturous. We have nobody that wants us except maybe those who are biologically obligated to love us, our family. To add something, this is why ascension is only really possible when foids do not have any monetary incentive to desire you such as in school or university, or if they think you are broke.

I agree

 

[daydreamER]

Think this is partly correct but, as always on this site, it lacks nuance. If I can find a 105 year old granny who thinks your a good catch, are your incel-days now over? Have you left behind your past life and ascended to a better plane of existence? Why not?

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There should be no shame in wanting to be desired by a girl who is at least a little bit desirable in your eyes as well. Some Incels don't dare to ask for this openly because they are afraid having standards of any kind isn't allowed for them, which is nonsense. It would be absurdly stupid, even for us, to argue for such a position, just so we can claim that we aren't "fakecels" or something similar.

I touched on this in a comment on this post, true ascension would be being desired at someone around your own level.

I don't believe that an actual incel would even have the capacity to attract an obese sheboon. If that happened, your incel status is revoked and you would be a standardcel or volcel. But to an extent I agree, true ascension is being desired by a foid around your looks level.

Ascending makes no sense to me as a concept, because w/e you have done to get a girl to fuck you, you likely are still towards the very bottom of the sexual hierarchy. You will not be able to reliably make women desire you, neither ugly nor pretty ones. The whole idea of "ascending" doesn't exist because it makes sense or works well for us, it exists because most incels would find it intolerable to share spaces with men who got laid without paying for it.

Yes, desire is what it's all about, but ascending isn't that important as a milestone. Most men who ascend still have no real power on the sexual market, are still desperate, still fucked for life. We make a big deal out of it, but you could ascend tomorrow and, if you don't get into a relationship with that same girl afterwards, that might end up being the one and only time you get laid.

It is an important milestone because you have proof that you can be desired at least once in your life, that you are not completely worthless. Getting lucky and ascending would do wonders for me and completely change my life in that I would believe I am not worthless anymore and that someone other than my family desires me, even it is just luck. You are right that only getting it once isn't ideal and that you should be in a relationship with her.

Women are nobles, we are beggars on the street. Does the beggar dream of eating food exactly once? No, he dreams of being so rich, he can eat whenever and whatever he wants.

I disagree with this analogy. The beggar dreams of a stable life. A normal life is all he wants. I don't dream of being a chad, I dream of being a normal socially adjusted guy who has a normal amount of interaction with women or other humans in general.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

It is an important milestone because you have proof that you can be desired at least once in your life, that you are not completely worthless. Getting lucky and ascending would do wonders for me and completely change my life in that I would believe I am not worthless anymore and that someone other than my family desires me, even it is just luck. You are right that only getting it once isn't ideal and that you should be in a relationship with her.

I agree that ascending would improve your life massively by restoring your self-worth and your capability to hope for a better future. But humans get used to new heights fairly quickly.

The first girl probably wouldn't be the perfect partner. Maybe after you have gotten used to having somewhat regular access to sex, you start becoming less and less attached to the girl, because you realize she isn't actually fun to have in your life outside of just having sex with her.

So you two break apart and now you need to find a new girl. If men were as privileged as women, that would be no problem. You could try the next girl, with an honest intention to hopefully find a viable long term partner, and you could keep going until you find the right one.

After reaching your milestone you will want to start progressing towards the next. And then the one after that. You might want to find a girl you can stand living with, start a family with her, become a dad and a granddad afterwards.

Ascending is great for your well-being, no doubt. But the fundamental issue plaguing us would remain, even if we get laid.

I disagree with this analogy. The beggar dreams of a stable life. A normal life is all he wants. I don't dream of being a chad, I dream of being a normal socially adjusted guy who has a normal amount of interaction with women or other humans in general.

I think we might differ in how we fantasies then. I autistically optimize my fantasies for the best that is possible and I don't dream of being chad either, simply because that's not the best thing I can think of.

 

[BPJ]

High IQ

 

[Lonelyus]

We all desire sex, Quit hiding it!

 

[Fortress Resolution]

I will never be desired by a woman

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[Rapistcel]

If you have ever been desired by a woman, even once in your life, you have ascended. You are not an incel. This may be obvious to some users, but I have met people that HAVE been desired by women yet because they have not had intercourse, they choose to call themselves incel. That is why escortcels are still incels, they have never actually been desired by a woman. That is why, arguably, betabuxx could be considered as incel, because they are not desired for anything but their money.

This is probably a water post for most of you, but I wanted to make it clear what "ascension" is. The very problem with inceldom is that we have never been desired, that is why it is so torturous. We have nobody that wants us except maybe those who are biologically obligated to love us, our family. To add something, this is why ascension is only really possible when foids do not have any monetary incentive to desire you such as in school or university, or if they think you are broke.

That's why escortmaxxing doesn't solve everything

 

[Ghost]

betabuxx could be considered as incel, because they are not desired for anything but their money.

So the starfish sex they get monthly (if lucky) doesn't count?

 

[DarkStar]

Good thread, this is "water" in a sense however it is quite nuanced & also somewhat circumstantial which is where the controversy arises.

Betabuxx imo is kind of a grey-area, because there are guys who may have the cash but possibly do not have the means to attract a betabuxx because they are that ugly and/or ND.

And yeah ofc, escortcels are still Incels but should refrain at times imo since not all of us can afford it/have connections.

Imo, the true & ultimate form of ascension would mean you also ascend with a foid who can improve your genetics & give you better offspring. Now ofc you still "ascended" even if the only foid attracted to you was some fat 3/10 femcel autist, but I think you see my point here. Ascension means you go to a higher plane, you uplifted yourself in someway, shape, or form.

Think this is partly correct but, as always on this site, it lacks nuance. If I can find a 105 year old granny who thinks your a good catch, are your incel-days now over? Have you left behind your past life and ascended to a better plane of existence? Why not?

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There should be no shame in wanting to be desired by a girl who is at least a little bit desirable in your eyes as well. Some Incels don't dare to ask for this openly because they are afraid having standards of any kind isn't allowed for them, which is nonsense. It would be absurdly stupid, even for us, to argue for such a position, just so we can claim that we aren't "fakecels" or something similar.

I do agree, now ofc she definitely has to be a legit granny, actual landwhale with body hair & a triple chin, or some foid with Down syndrome who is also a cripple.

To be desired is key. Women are desired constantly, by men who are above them in terms of looks, money, personality, you name it. They have easy access to sex, intimacy, love and all these other experiences which make life worth living.

This is a valid point, and it also correlates with what I said above.

Ascending makes no sense to me as a concept, because w/e you have done to get a girl to fuck you, you likely are still towards the very bottom of the sexual hierarchy. You will not be able to reliably make women desire you, neither ugly nor pretty ones. The whole idea of "ascending" doesn't exist because it makes sense or works well for us, it exists because most incels would find it intolerable to share spaces with men who got laid without paying for it.

Yes, desire is what it's all about, but ascending isn't that important as a milestone. Most men who ascend still have no real power on the sexual market, are still desperate, still fucked for life. We make a big deal out of it, but you could ascend tomorrow and, if you don't get into a relationship with that same girl afterwards, that might end up being the one and only time you get laid.

Women are nobles, we are beggars on the street. Does the beggar dream of eating food exactly once? No, he dreams of being so rich, he can eat whenever and whatever he wants.