Theory The Rise of Affluence is What Causes Hypergamy

[Intellectual]

When everyone is rich, the only thing that differentiates people is height and looks. If you live in North America, you can live an upper class life just by working at a minimum wage job. Thanks to automation, technology, and general increase in capital stock, a minimum wage worker today lives better than a Doctor in the 1990s.

Why do you think there's so many currycel doctors and programmers who are saying they're incel now? But not in the 90s? In the 90s, earning a good living MEANT something, it meant you are part of an exclusive group, now the standard of living is so high that everyone lives like that, so having additional money means less.

 

[Restart80]

Thanks to automation, technology, and general increase in capital stock, a minimum wage worker today lives better than a Doctor in the 1990s.

What are you talking about? The cost of living and especially housing has risen faster than wages.

People across the board live worse today than in the 1990s, except for the rich.

 

[based_meme]

If you live in North America, you can live an upper class life just by working at a minimum wage job.

 

[Osman279]

Geomaxxing is going to take off as a result.

 

[Intellectual]

What are you talking about? The cost of living

Cost of living has not risen as fast as wages.

We Work Less, Have More Leisure Time and Earn More - HumanProgress

www.humanprogress.org

and especially housing has risen faster than wages.

And lots of things have risen a lot slower than wages or have fallen in nominal value.

Microsoft stock just reached it's peak that it hit in 1999. Meaning in 2018 you could buy Microsoft stock for CHEAPER than you could in the 1990s. Microsoft stock is a much better asset than a house.

People across the board live worse today than in the 1990s, except for the rich.

The rich have gotten hurt the most over the last 20 years, exceptions of course for the 4 years Trump was in office where he helped with the tax cuts. Biden and Obama have been taxing the rich and their companies into oblivion and giving it to welfare singlemothers who shit out 9 kids.

 

[IncelGolem]

The first paragraph is definitely not true.

But I agree with your central argument as it pertains to toilets (even they say so): the rise of their educational or professional success (even if just means $$$ from onlyfans) means money isn't as big of a draw unless you are REALLY wealthy. But nobody looks at a $100k/yr man and thinks he's a catch just for that.

 

[Intellectual]

The first paragraph is definitely not true.

But I agree with your central argument as it pertains to toilets (even they say so): the rise of their educational or professional success (even if just means $$$ from onlyfans) means money isn't as big of a draw unless you are REALLY wealthy.

Agreed

But nobody looks at a $100k/yr man and thinks he's a catch just for that.

Wait, but that is really wealthy. It's just that earning that kind of money is so incredibly rare that it doens't happen.

 

[wereq]

This is pretty spot on. With automation and affluence, women don't need ordinary men to provide for them. They don't have to pretend to love sub-6 men anymore. They are now free to focus all of their primal lust onto Chads.

 

[IncelGolem]

Agreed

Wait, but that is really wealthy. It's just that earning that kind of money is so incredibly rare that it doens't happen.

More than a third of households make more than that in the US. $100k/yr hasn't been impressive since 1995.

$300k/yr is when you start to be a little special now. But even then, almost every woman will pick a $150k/yr 8/10 man over a $300k 5/10 men.

 

[Intellectual]

More than a third of households make more than that in the US. $100k/yr hasn't been impressive since 1995.

I'd look into those stats on how they survey them. I know disgustingly rich people who don't come close to $100k a year.

$300k/yr is when you start to be a little special now. But even then, almost every woman will pick a $150k/yr 8/10 man over a $300k 5/10 men.

Because 150k a year and 300k a year are both extremely rich. Once you hit 85k, you're basically in the ultra-rich class. There's nothing you can't afford besides "abstract wealth"

 

[IncelGolem]

I'd look into those stats on how they survey them. I know disgustingly rich people who don't come close to $100k a year.

Because 150k a year and 300k a year are both extremely rich. Once you hit 85k, you're basically in the ultra-rich class. There's nothing you can't afford besides "abstract wealth"

Where do you live? If in the US, what is the population you live around?

Here's a 2021 census report straight from the US gov website:

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2022/demo/p60-276.pdf

On page 16, add up the brackets above $100k/yr: 15.9+8.3+11.6 = 35.8%

- And this was 2 years ago during a pandemic
- And it includes all races (if just white or just asian it'd be higher)
- And it includes the entirety of the US - if you live in a big city it's going to be higher

 

[Intellectual]

Where do you live? If in the US, what is the population you live around?

Here's a 2021 census report straight from the US gov website:

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2022/demo/p60-276.pdf

On page 16, add up the brackets above $100k/yr: 15.9+8.3+11.6 = 35.8%

- And this was 2 years ago during a pandemic
- And it includes all races (if just white or just asian it'd be higher)
- And it includes the entirety of the US - if you live in a big city it's going to be higher than the midwest

I live in Canada, specifically Toronto. I just find that hard to believe because even the people I know who also went to prestigious colleges are earning no where close to that. Even my friends who went to regular colleges are basically going to food banks and eating from dumpsters ,and they have average jobs.

 

[IncelGolem]

I live in Canada, specifically Toronto. I just find that hard to believe because even the people I know who also went to prestigious colleges are earning no where close to that. Even my friends who went to regular colleges are basically going to food banks and eating from dumpsters ,and they have average jobs.

Well that might make some sense. In the US, the median household income is $102k. In just Toronto, it's $84k. But Toronto is also Canada's largest (?) and I think 2nd most expensive(?) city. The cost of living in Toronto is definitely higher than the average cost in the US which includes plenty of affordable towns, small cities, and suburbs. So it might feel more like $102k vs. 60k.

 

[Intellectual]

Well that might make some sense. In the US, the median household income is $102k. In just Toronto, it's $84k. But Toronto is also Canada's largest (?) and I think 2nd most expensive(?) city. The cost of living in Toronto is definitely higher than the average cost in the US which includes plenty of affordable towns, small cities, and suburbs. So it might feel more like $102k vs. 60k.

No way it's 84k. I feel like one of the wealthiest people in the city and i don't make that much.

 

[IncelGolem]

No way it's 84k. I feel like one of the wealthiest people in the city and i don't make that much.

I don't know what to tell you. Either you are surrounded by a poorer community in Toronto or the $84k stat I found online is inaccurate.

But living in the US all my life in several places from big cities to smaller ones- the $102k median household income seems very reasonable to me.

 

[Intellectual]

I don't know what to tell you. Either you are surrounded by a poorer community in Toronto or the $84k stat I found online is inaccurate.

I think it's inaccurate. The vast majority of people either don't have jobs or work a gig job. Lucky people get minimum wage at 30k a year.

But living in the US all my life in several places from big cities to smaller ones- the $102k median household income seems very reasonable to me.

To me that would be like the richest person in the city lol.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

it's more that now it's socially acceptable for birthing toilets to be NEET-- so they can just indolently do whatever unproductive leisure activity they want, and they seek specifically men that can afford to have the same lifestyle, while being good looking--

NOT some wagie betabuxx making 200K, but does not have the freedom to get a face tattoo without being scolded by his clients, or take a 3 week vacation on 1 days notice.

This is what curries and chinks get wrong about true wealth-- its not a dollar number. You aren't impressive if you pass 6 figures, and have a 401K. What's impressive is if you are a trust fundy that can live in Manhattan, walk a dog for 3 hours a day, and then spend most of your time working out, writing books, and shooting selfies.

 

[Intellectual]

it's more that now it's socially acceptable for birthing toilets to be NEET-- so they can just indolently do whatever unproductive leisure activity they want, and they seek specifically men that can afford to have the same lifestyle, while being good looking--

Wasn't this more of a thing in the past? The Stay-at-home Wife?

NOT some wagie betabuxx making 200K, but does not have the freedom to get a face tattoo without being scolded by his clients

Look, i know i said wealthmaxxing doesn't work, but that was for most people, if you're making over 6 figures you are 100% ascending, that's God-tier money.

This is what curries and chinks get wrong about true wealth-- its not a dollar number. You aren't impressive if you pass 6 figures, and have a 401K. What's impressive is if you are a trust fundy that can live in Manhattan, walk a dog for 3 hours a day, and then spend most of your time working out, writing books, and shooting selfies.

I'd say making 80k or year and above.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

Wasn't this more of a thing in the past? The Stay-at-home Wife?

Look, i know i said wealthmaxxing doesn't work, but that was for most people, if you're making over 6 figures you are 100% ascending, that's God-tier money.

I'd say making 80k or year and above.

making 100K in SF relegates you into a shared apartment with 6 other curries sweating code and tandoori

 

[blackpillednigga]

uhhhh what? do u really think it's easy to get rich here? kek

 

[frmentalcel]

People across the board live worse today than in the 1990s, except for the rich.

dont let his name fool you, hes one of the most retarded GrAYfags ive ever seen here

 

[SlayerSlayer]

Once you hit 85k, you're basically in the ultra-rich class. There's nothing you can't afford besides "abstract wealth"

you cant even afford a country club memberhip or a Porsche on 85K. Most importantly, you can't afford to give them the sugar baby life + basic child daycare + extracurriculars +private college tuition + vacations on a whim. These are all very important to holes-- and are all things expected of the upper middle class. Im not even talking ultra-rich, who need to afford staff, customized cocaine, $6000 loro piana hats, and international polo lessons

 

[Restart80]

it's more that now it's socially acceptable for birthing toilets to be NEET-- so they can just indolently do whatever unproductive leisure activity they want, and they seek specifically men that can afford to have the same lifestyle, while being good looking--

NOT some wagie betabuxx making 200K, but does not have the freedom to get a face tattoo without being scolded by his clients

This is what curries and chinks get wrong about true wealth-- its not a dollar number. You aren't impressive if you pass 6 figures, and have a 401K. What's impressive is if you are a trust fundy that can live in Manhattan, walk a dog for 3 hours a day, and then spend most of your time working out, writing books, and shooting selfies.

Lava temperature IQ

 

[nystagmuscel]

What are you talking about? The cost of living and especially housing has risen faster than wages.

People across the board live worse today than in the 1990s, except for the rich.

 

[Intellectual]

making 100K in SF relegates you into a shared apartment with 6 other curries sweating code and tandoori

I looked up SF and it's not that much higher in COL than Toronto, and earning even 50k in Toronto puts you into an elite class where you can afford whatever you want, when you want, where you want. So I am very skeptical of that claim.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

I looked up SF and it's not that much higher in COL than Toronto, and earning even 50k in Toronto puts you into an elite class where you can afford whatever you want, when you want, where you want. So I am very skeptical of that claim.

you are stupid, because you are thinking of your minimal needs lifestyle in your 20s. Can you actually afford shit that foids NEED

Can you afford premium dog grooming/ dog walking???
Can you afford to pay a nanny $15 an hour 40 hrs a week?
Can you afford private training at $250/hr??
Can you afford $80 of food per day?

 

[Intellectual]

you are stupid, because you are thinking of your minimal needs lifestyle in your 20s. Can you actually afford shit that foids NEED

I personally know Chads, via friends of friends, and they are totally broke, I earn way more.

Can you afford premium dog grooming/ dog walking???

Chad doesn't have any of this shit

Can you afford to pay a nanny $15 an hour 40 hrs a week?
Can you afford private training at $250/hr??
Can you afford $80 of food per day?

Even normies or normgroids who have girlfriends can't do this shit.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

I personally know Chads, via friends of friends, and they are totally broke, I earn way more.

Chad doesn't have any of this shit

Even normies or normgroids who have girlfriends can't do this shit.

also you are dead wrong in the col comparison:

Cost of Living Comparison Between San Francisco, CA, United States And Toronto, Canada

www.numbeo.com

rent for a 1 bedroom is 43% more in SF

you can't backtrack and brag you are rich, when you'd be straight up poor in San Francisco. I know people that make well over 100K in SF, and their kids qualify as "low income scholarship" pity party kids for sometrust fund school people with real money can easily afford.

 

[Balding Subhuman]

I honestly think social media created it. Teen boys dream about the hottie in their class, teen girls dream about the super famous pretty boys in a pop band. That's the difference. Women are unhappy if they can't get the best of the best and social media only heightens all of this. They are bombarded with images of Chads and lavish lifestyles and then they think that men somehow owe them all of this, and if he can't give it to her then he's a bum.

 

[Travis Bickle]

When everyone is rich, the only thing that differentiates people is height and looks. If you live in North America, you can live an upper class life just by working at a minimum wage job. Thanks to automation, technology, and general increase in capital stock, a minimum wage worker today lives better than a Doctor in the 1990s.

Why do you think there's so many currycel doctors and programmers who are saying they're incel now? But not in the 90s? In the 90s, earning a good living MEANT something, it meant you are part of an exclusive group, now the standard of living is so high that everyone lives like that, so having additional money means less.

getting easy for CHAD every passing day.
eugenics will be law in next 30 years

 

[IceStorm]

What are you talking about? The cost of living and especially housing has risen faster than wages.

People across the board live worse today than in the 1990s, except for the rich.

 

[Intellectual]

@IceStorm You are ignorant, wages have skyrocketed past cost of living

 

[pyromancer1234]

I honestly think social media created it. Teen boys dream about the hottie in their class, teen girls dream about the super famous pretty boys in a pop band. That's the difference. Women are unhappy if they can't get the best of the best and social media only heightens all of this. They are bombarded with images of Chads and lavish lifestyles and then they think that men somehow owe them all of this, and if he can't give it to her then he's a bum.

This is the high IQ take. It's all about pool size. A man can be satisfied with any woman who meets the bar in absolute terms; there's no limit on how many women can qualify. Women, however, are only satisfied with the one best man relative to all others, and in particular, this comparison scales over small town to big city to global stage.

It was bad with the invention of radio and television: the first time when the most attractive men could scale their image and celebrity to have women nationwide swoon over them. It got worse with internet and cheap travel removing barriers to entry: there is now no physical reason why any attractive woman can't have a shot at the top men they see on their phones. This makes things worse for virtually everyone but those top 0.01% of men — women included. For 99.99% of men, there is nothing; any local hottie they could have had access to is now part of the global pool. For 100% of women, there is unlimited competition for those top men from other women; at that level, the number of available women that cap out the dime scale far exceeds the supply of international celebrity men.