The reason sex "work" is expensive ...

[Fancy Alcoholic]

is the reason insurance is a timeless crook. Let me explain.

Clients having sex with the "sex worker" not only pay for her service, they also have to cover the risk of the "sex worker" being subject to some mad man going berserk and kill her during prestation.

But, this is a very subjective matter, and as you know, foids like to emphasize on things, especially when it makes them look like victims, and even more if they can get money out of it, which means that her service is very probably only 10% of the price the client pays, while the resting 90% is just the cost of some irrationnal "feeling" the foid has about her own security.

This is why escortceling is heptacuck, not only because you pay for what Chads get for free with better quality, but because you pay for all dark triad maXxed black mages who had fun dismembering whores before you, making whores irrationally stressful about cucks like you.

Do not escortcel, do not simp, do not get involved in this crazy fucked up system that literaly favors Chad and serial killers over normal men.

 

[starcrapoo]

Cope. If it were not for whores I probably woulda snapped already.

I gave up the far right / alt-right movement after the age of 25. Thats because that was when I started to make money after joining the work force. I had enough discretionary income to pay for whores. And before all of that, I was an extremely depraved, extremely shy, and extremely angry ricecel. I still am every now and then. Just not as extreme when I was younger, broke, and totally depraved.

I was totally clueless about foids before I started regularly escortmaxxing. I finally knew what it was like to talk to foids, suck their tits, and ravage their warm, wet vaginas.

It may be expensive but you don't have to do it all the time. BJs alone are cheaper and even more satisfying imo. Its more humiliating for the whores.

 

[Fight_back]

Based for the part about insurance. Also : increasing demand because of the hypergamy explosion and decreasing supply because foids "work" in other fields.
It will become even more expensive once more of them realize they can make more by being a cam whore or show her asshole on OF.

Cope. If it were not for whores I probably woulda snapped already.

I gave up the far right / alt-right movement after the age of 25. Thats because that was when I started to make money after joining the work force. I had enough discretionary income to pay for whores. And before all of that, I was an extremely depraved, extremely shy, and extremely angry ricecel. I still am every now and then. Just not as extreme when I was younger, broke, and totally depraved.

I was totally clueless about foids before I started regularly escortmaxxing. I finally knew what it was like to talk to foids, suck their tits, and ravage their warm, wet vaginas.

It may be expensive but you don't have to do it all the time. BJs alone are cheaper and even more satisfying imo. Its more humiliating for the whores.

How often do you do it? How much does it cost you?

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Cope. If it were not for whores I probably woulda snapped already.

I gave up the far right / alt-right movement after the age of 25. Thats because that was when I started to make money after joining the work force. I had enough discretionary income to pay for whores. And before all of that, I was an extremely depraved, extremely shy, and extremely angry ricecel. I still am every now and then. Just not as extreme when I was younger, broke, and totally depraved.

I was totally clueless about foids before I started regularly escortmaxxing. I finally knew what it was like to talk to foids, suck their tits, and ravage their warm, wet vaginas.

It may be expensive but you don't have to do it all the time. BJs alone are cheaper and even more satisfying imo. Its more humiliating for the whores.

I'm relatively well off but I can tell you something : I will NEVER buy something any fucking retarded normie can get for free. Better trucel than cuck. My money is better in my pocket than financing the liberal degeneracy destroying the world right now.

 

[based_meme]

Interesting theory. It certainly makes a lot sense.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Interesting theory. It certainly makes a lot sense.

Thanks buddy boyo

It will become even more expensive once more of them realize they can make more by being a cam whore or show her asshole on OF.

This. Sex work has never been work, but somehow it will become EVEN LESS work in the future ... JFL at cucks throwing their money at this non sense.

 

[grondilu]

If you're capable of going through your 20s, 30s and beyond in full celibacy without losing your god damn mind, then all the power to you, OP.

 

[proudweeb]

You're right bro. I'm just gonna fleshlightmaxxxxx

 

[Deleted member 33091]

BJs alone are cheaper and even more satisfying imo. Its more humiliating for the whores.

Honestly I would be content with paying for BJs without the sex. And the fact that it's "more humiliating" for them is a big win.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

You're right bro. I'm just gonna fleshlightmaxxxxx

High IQ

If you're capable of going through your 20s, 30s and beyond in full celibacy without losing your god damn mind, then all the power to you, OP.

There are really only two kind of people who don't have to pay "sex workers", as I explained. I fear most of the growing demographic of frustrated males could fall in the category that is precisely not Chad ...

 

[starcrapoo]

If you're capable of going through your 20s, 30s and beyond in full celibacy without losing your god damn mind, then all the power to you, OP.

Yep. I most likely woulda snapped. I don't know about others, I just know about myself.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

is the reason insurance is a timeless crook. Let me explain.

Clients having sex with the "sex worker" not only pay for her service, they also have to cover the risk of the "sex worker" being subject to some mad man going berserk and kill her during prestation.

But, this is a very subjective matter, and as you know, foids like to emphasize on things, especially when it makes them look like victims, and even more if they can get money out of it, which means that her service is very probably only 10% of the price the client pays, while the resting 90% is just the cost of some irrationnal "feeling" the foid has about her own security.

This is why escortceling is heptacuck, not only because you pay for what Chads get for free with better quality, but because you pay for all dark triad maXxed black mages who had fun dismembering whores before you, making whores irrationally stressful about cucks like you.

Do not escortcel, do not simp, do not get involved in this crazy fucked up system that literaly favors Chad and serial killers over normal men.

The only amount of money I'm willing to spend on hookers is $20 at most.

BJs alone are cheaper and even more satisfying imo. Its more humiliating for the whores.

Honestly I would be content with paying for BJs without the sex. And the fact that it's "more humiliating" for them is a big win.

BJs are still costly, tbh. And it’s not like if you pay, say, $100 for an hour, that she's gonna split the time for 15 minutes or even a quickie for $30. These bitches still want at least $80 or even full price, even if you're just sticking your dick and cumming in her for just less than 5 minutes.

 

[watcher]

No.

Prostitution is expensive because women hate having sex with men who do not look like Henry Cavill

 

[Fight_back]

No.

Prostitution is expensive because women hate having sex with men who do not look like Henry Cavill

One doesn't exclude the other. This is actually the reason they fear their clients, because in their minds ugly=undersexed=dangerous

 

[Deleted member 33091]

BJs are still costly, tbh. And it’s not like if you pay, say, $100 for an hour, that she's gonna split the time for 15 minutes or even a quickie for $30. These bitches still want at least $80 or even full price, even if you're just sticking your dick and cumming in her for just less than 5 minutes.

Can't I make it last and get the most bang for the buck(pun unintentional)?

 

[grondilu]

The only amount of money I'm willing to spend on hookers is $20 at most.

No matter how good looking she is ? If so you're either poor or dumb.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

No matter how good looking she is ? If so you're either poor or dumb.

I could go for a crackwhore if I'm that desperate.

But either way, it shouldn't be that expensive. $20-$40 is justified.

 

[InvisibleCel]

Brb about to sucks the farts out of a hooker’s anus

 

[Mystic]

The only amount of money I'm willing to spend on hookers is $20 at most.

No matter how good looking she is ? If so you're either poor or dumb.

They don't deserve anymore than 20... People fucking starving and dumb cunts get paid 1000s for a basic biological act, FUCK THAT!

But either way, it shouldn't be that expensive. $20-$40 is justified.

Yep... That and we should demand our freedom dumb whores sexuality have been let off the leash 100%, while paying a hooker for transactional consensual agreement can get a man arrested??? LIke What?? meanwhile no one gives a fuck about how hypergamy and divorce courts have RUINED any prospects of having a family for most men which has A MUCH WORSE affect on society as a whole than men just trying to relieve some fucking frustration...

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

the reason sex work is expensive is that women are queens and deserve their expensive beauty treatments and fashion accessories

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

They don't deserve anymore than 20... People fucking starving and dumb cunts get paid 1000s for a basic biological act, FUCK THAT!

Exactly, and even then she's using most of that money to supply her vanity, iPhones and drugs. Women like that can't secure a husband to afford for her shit because no one wants to keep overused goods, so they turn to prostitution. But the prices have to be high somehow because m'lady has needs and she deserves that new iPhone or for her kids, in which case she should've gotten her uterus removed before working that life, and should be taken away by CPS anyways.

Whores and sluts have no right to reproduce, and curse their wages that should be void.

Some people work, and yet these bitches thing that they deserve more. Doesn't cost much to use your body.

Yep... That and we should demand our freedom dumb whores sexuality have been let off the leash 100%, while paying a hooker for transactional consensual agreement can get a man arrested??? LIke What?? meanwhile no one gives a fuck about how hypergamy and divorce courts have RUINED any prospects of having a family which has A MUCH WORSE affect on society as a whole than men just trying to relieve some fucking frustration... FUCK THIS SOCIETY

We have to pay just to relieve our sexual frustration with a woman, whereas even a below average chubby foid with low self-esteem can still get cock for free.

 

[RollD20]

The only amount of money I'm willing to spend on hookers is $20 at most

Based $20 is reasonable, I think white knights and cucks have inflated the market to stupid proportions. Whores could still make above minimum wage.

 

[Deleted member 32037]

I was totally clueless about foids before I started regularly escortmaxxing. I finally knew what it was like to talk to foids, suck their tits, and ravage their warm, wet vaginas.

It may be expensive but you don't have to do it all the time. BJs alone are cheaper and even more satisfying imo. Its more humiliating for the whores.

Wait how is it more humuliating for the whores if u just do BJs alone? and how much cheaper would it be?

Also what's the average price of an Escort you pay? Can you hug them tightly?

 

[Emba]

Probably right

 

[BlkPillPres]

Interesting theory. It certainly makes a lot sense.

It makes no sense at all, he got the first half right, but like all the retards on this site he has to drift off in to meme land and ruin any appearance of sanity or common sense, this entire thread just feels like a troll thread now

@Fancy Alcoholic
Prostitution is expensive for two simple reasons:
1. Its illegal, and it being illegal means the John is paying to cover the risk of the whore and himself, like people say "it's the price of doing business".

2. Supply and demand. In places where prostitution is legal, it is much cheaper, especially since there's more competition due to the legality (so whores have to price their assess competitively). More competition with the same demand, means that whores have to lower their prices to compete with eachother

The male demand for sex is always high, it never goes down, so when the supply increases, it benefits men not women

I'm relatively well off but I can tell you something

You are a retard then, what are you doing on this forum, the moment I'm finished wealthmaxxing I'm gone

I will NEVER buy something any fucking retarded normie can get for free.

No such thing as "free" sex:

[Hard To Swallow Edition] There Is No Such Thing As Free Sex (Stop Perpetuating The "Free Sex" Lie As An Excuse To Not Escortcel)

This is related to a past thread (in fact parts of it are used in this thread): https://incels.is/threads/every-interaction-is-a-transaction-of-resources.125273/ I am fed up of seeing incels saying they won't pay for sex because - "I don't want to pay for something I SHOULD be getting for free"...

incels.is

Better trucel than cuck.

You retards don't apply this logic consistently, it would be the logical equivalent of saying because there are people who are born rich and they inherent land, property, houses, etc, you will refuse to buy a house or even rent and you'd rather be homeless (that's how retarded your logic is for this scenario)

"Better homeless than tenant"

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

like all the retards on this site he has to drift off in to meme land and ruin any appearance of sanity or common sense

Unless you're a normie cuck, common sense is shit.

Prostitution is expensive for two simple reasons:
1. Its illegal, and it being illegal means the John is paying to cover the risk of the whore and himself, like people say "it's the price of doing business".

Fake news. Even in countries where it's legal, you have to pay a lot, and by a lot I mean hookers can make as much as high ranked salary men, which is degenerate af and the sign of a non functionning society. Even if it's legal, most based or traditionalist ppl will still see sex work as a meme, thus creating tensions and aggressivity against it, regardless of what the law has to say.

2. Supply and demand.

JFL at this meme. Supply and demand doesn't explain shit.

For instance, it doesn't explain the masochistic tendencies of cucks, willing to pay far too much to feel less guilt about fucking a "sex worker", and the entitlement of the whores who will systematically over value themselves. There's too much sociological issues involved here to bring back the old meme of "how much pounds to buy cabbage during 18th century England" JFL

the moment I'm finished wealthmaxxing I'm gone

You're a retard if you think a few grands in the bank is life changing for anyone. As long as you have to sell your work force to someone else in order to eat, you're among the lowest strata, even if you have millions. Rich people never ever have to consider working or figuring out how to become rich in the first place. Now imagine being a wageslave, plus being an incel. A few grands doesn't mean shit, except that merchants will gladly sell you expensive copes in exchange of your paper scheckels. You(ll be gone nowhere.

"Better homeless than tenant"

Giga based.

 

[BlkPillPres]

JFL at this meme. Supply and demand doesn't explain shit.

Seems rather disingenuous to quote two words and leave out the explanation part, and then say "it doesn't explain shit"

Supply and demand. In places where prostitution is legal, it is much cheaper, especially since there's more competition due to the legality (so whores have to price their assess competitively). More competition with the same demand, means that whores have to lower their prices to compete with eachother

The male demand for sex is always high, it never goes down, so when the supply increases, it benefits men not women

For instance, it doesn't explain the masochistic tendencies of cucks, willing to pay far too much to feel less guilt about fucking a "sex worker", and the entitlement of the whores who will systematically over value themselves.

None of that has anything to do with the expense of prostitution itself

Your response is like asking why people pay $500 for the fucking word "supreme" in a red rectangle on a regular t-shirt, there's always gonna be people who spend their money like retards on clothing items, that has nothing to do with the general pricing of clothing

You're a retard if you think a few grands in the bank is life changing for anyone. As long as you have to sell your work force to someone else in order to eat, you're among the lowest strata, even if you have millions

The "even if you have millions" part is what just proved you to be retarded

Its as if you don't even know people with millions can just give their money to banks and get paid a percentage on their investment, monthly or yearly, depends on the plan

Also if you have millions you could just live off of those millions, living doesn't cost much, if you lived the life you do now (same kind of expenses) but you had millions you would not have to work, so I don't think you are even using your brain right now to think about the bullshit you are saying

How much do you spend a month?

Now imagine if you just stuck to that amount (or moderately above it) while having millions, how the fuck are you among the "lowest" strata?

Why would you even bother "selling your work"?

A few grands doesn't mean shit

That I agree with, but a million is something

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Seems rather disingenuous to quote two words and leave out the explanation part, and then say "it doesn't explain shit"



None of that has anything to do with the expense of prostitution itself

Your response is like asking why people pay $500 for the fucking word "supreme" in a red rectangle on a regular t-shirt, there's always gonna be people who spend their money like retards on clothing items, that has nothing to do with the general pricing of clothing


The "even if you have millions" part is what just proved you to be retarded

Its as if you don't even know people with millions can just give their money to banks and get paid a percentage on their investment, monthly or yearly, depends on the plan

Also if you have millions you could just live off of those millions, living doesn't cost much, if you lived the life you do now (same kind of expenses) but you had millions you would not have to work, so I don't think you are even using your brain right now to think about the bullshit you are saying

How much do you spend a month?

Now imagine if you just stuck to that amount (or moderately above it) while having millions, how the fuck are you among the "lowest" strata?

Why would you even bother "selling your work"?


That I agree with, but a million is something

Prostitution is as if every single T shirt was sold the price of a "Supreme" T shirt even if the precious "Supreme" buzzword isn't even written on it. That's my point.

Also, you seem to be unaware of the problems a fortune brings : taxes, new expanses, low interest rate (banks are a crook), even more taxes, inflation, poor investment choices ... All those things will progressively eat your millions. At first you won't realize it, but then ... It's the reason most lottery winners are too retarded to keep their millions more than a year. Everything disappears magically, because they don't know how to keep it in the first place.

 

[radishman]

Only expensive in certain regions it seems.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Prostitution is as if every single T shirt was sold the price of a "Supreme" T shirt even if the precious "Supreme" buzzword isn't even written on it. That's my point.

Also, you seem to be unaware of the problems a fortune brings : taxes, new expanses, low interest rate (banks are a crook), even more taxes, inflation, poor investment choices ... All those things will progressively eat your millions. At first you won't realize it, but then ... It's the reason most lottery winners are too retarded to keep their millions more than a year. Everything disappears magically, because they don't know how to keep it in the first place.

My point is : owning a million doesn't mean shit. Real rich ppl have "old money", they know, from generation to generation, how to perpetuate it.

 

[Pain And Hatred]

I think it's because it's illegal. If they have a risk of getting caught and put in jail, you might as well cash out while you can.

 

[based_meme]

It makes no sense at all, he got the first half right, but like all the retards on this site he has to drift off in to meme land and ruin any appearance of sanity or common sense, this entire thread just feels like a troll thread now

@Fancy Alcoholic
Prostitution is expensive for two simple reasons:
1. Its illegal, and it being illegal means the John is paying to cover the risk of the whore and himself, like people say "it's the price of doing business".

That doesn't make any sense. You, as a purchaser, don't pay more for something because it's illegal. The seller has to increase their price for that reason. If anything, the purchaser should be paying far less, because the cost to them getting arrested is so high. That's part of why pimps are a thing (sure they exploit the women, but they have to protect their source of income). You could fuck a whore, and instead of paying her, you beat her up. If she doesn't have a pimp, what's she realistically going to do, call the police? No, she's going to eat the loss just like she ate your dick.

It can get worse for Johns in countries with the Nordic model, which favor the whores, because the costs for Johns are up the ass (for doing it up the ass, KEK) and the whores know they have the advantage. They could, in theory, just take your money, do literally nothing, and call the police and lie about you, if you don't fuck off when they tell you to. You would take all of the legal risk. It's not illegal for the whores to sell their holes under the cucked Nordic model, yet they still charge high, relative to the cost of living.

2. Supply and demand. In places where prostitution is legal, it is much cheaper, especially since there's more competition due to the legality (so whores have to price their assess competitively). More competition with the same demand, means that whores have to lower their prices to compete with eachother

The male demand for sex is always high, it never goes down, so when the supply increases, it benefits men not women

This is false. In the Netherlands, for example, whores charge 50 euros for 15 minutes. She could see eight men a day, one an hour, and make a comfortable living for "working" only two hours a day. But let's make it easier for her, because life isn't easy enough for women, and cut that in half. That's still almost 6000 Euros a month.

The costs for purchasing sex isn't as simple as the intro to microeconomics supply-demand curve you're making it out to be.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

That doesn't make any sense. You, as a purchaser, don't pay more for something because it's illegal. The seller has to increase their price for that reason. If anything, the purchaser should be paying far less, because the cost to them getting arrested is so high. That's part of why pimps are a thing (sure they exploit the women, but they have to protect their source of income). You could fuck a whore, and instead of paying her, you beat her up. If she doesn't have a pimp, what's she realistically going to do, call the police? No, she's going to eat the loss just like she ate your dick.

It can get worse for Johns in countries with the Nordic model, which favor the whores, because the costs for Johns are up the ass (for doing it up the ass, KEK) and the whores know they have the advantage. They could, in theory, just take your money, do literally nothing, and call the police and lie about you, if you don't fuck off when they tell you to. You would take all of the legal risk. It's not illegal for the whores to sell their holes under the cucked Nordic model, yet they still charge high, relative to the cost of living.


This is false. In the Netherlands, for example, whores charge 50 euros for 15 minutes. She could see eight men a day, one an hour, and make a comfortable living for "working" only two hours a day. But let's make it easier for her, because life isn't easy enough for women, and cut that in half. That's still almost 6000 Euros a month.

The costs for purchasing sex isn't as simple as the intro to microeconomics supply-demand curve you're making it out to be.

astute observations

 

[BlkPillPres]

You, as a purchaser, don't pay more for something because it's illegal

The seller has to increase their price for that reason.

Isn't that essentially the same thing?

If the seller increases the price "for that reason" doesn't that result in you paying more "for that same reason"

I think you need to read over what you said, you are literally agreeing with me lol

If anything, the purchaser should be paying far less, because the cost to them getting arrested is so high

Nope

If you get caught you probably get charged for a misdemeanor (solicitation), the whore instead will be arrested and kept from working for "her own safety", so you can go back to your job after you pay your own bail or someone else pays it, she can't work for a few days or months, however long it takes to "process" her

Not only that, now the police has her on record as a prostitute and are keeping their eyes on her, that makes her job harder from that point on and that makes her a target from dirty cops looking for "freebies"

The person on the other side of the law always has way more to worry about, what I told you was just off the top of my head, there's definitely way more problems that come out of being arrested for prostitution

Oh here's another one I just thought of, if she has children and she's a single parent, she will lose custody of them, whereas your wife won't even hear what you are arrested for if you call your lawyer first and have him do his job

It can get worse for Johns in countries with the Nordic model, which favor the whores, because the costs for Johns are up the ass (for doing it up the ass, KEK) and the whores know they have the advantage. They could, in theory, just take your money, do literally nothing, and call the police and lie about you, if you don't fuck off when they tell you to. You would take all of the legal risk. It's not illegal for the whores to sell their holes under the cucked Nordic model, yet they still charge high, relative to the cost of living.

I know about the Nordic model and I would never even visit a country like that lol

This is false. In the Netherlands, for example, whores charge 50 euros for 15 minutes.

You are pretty much ignoring the topic here, here's a simple question:

If it was illegal in the Netherlands would they be charging more than $50 euros for 15 minutes?

If your answer is yes then you still agree with my only point, that sex becomes cheaper due to legality, because whores have to price competitively since there will be more women doing it, as it is now "safer"

I never said anything about "how cheap" or what is a "reasonable base rate" or anything like that, you are pretty much arguing against a strawman

If it would be more expensive when its illegal then my point still stands, and if you are going to say it will be cheaper I'd really like to see you explain that nonsense lol

Also, you seem to be unaware of the problems a fortune brings : taxes, new expanses, low interest rate (banks are a crook), even more taxes, inflation, poor investment choices ... All those things will progressively eat your millions

I'm not like you guys, I do research, and just like there are new taxes for the rich there are new tax loopholes for the rich too

Also JFL at "poor investment choices", you say that like its inevitable and has nothing to do with your own bad choices, a lot of you guys take this determinism shit too far, you are literally speaking about an intentional choice as if its an inevitability, does the concept of planning and research not exist to you?

If someone has the competence to become rich, why is it you can't comprehend that they have the competence to stay rich?

 

[based_meme]

Isn't that essentially the same thing?

If the seller increases the price "for that reason" doesn't that result in you paying more "for that same reason"

I think you need to read over what you said, you are literally agreeing with me lol

Our conclusions are the same, but not the reasoning. The John would realistically want to pay as little as possible, precisely because of the legal risk (which you're arguing is minimal, ok I'll concede, since I don't know the US law and its proceedings surrounding this issue that well), while the whore would want to increase it. So the price meets some middle ground that satisfies the risk-reward for both parties.

I'm sure we're both simplifying it to a far greater degree than even a partially rigorous analysis would demand.

Nope

If you get caught you probably get charged for a misdemeanor (solicitation), the whore instead will be arrested and kept from working for "her own safety", so you can go back to your job after you pay your own bail or someone else pays it, she can't work for a few days or months, however long it takes to "process" her

Not only that, now the police has her on record as a prostitute and are keeping their eyes on her, that makes her job harder from that point on and that makes her a target from dirty cops looking for "freebies"

The person on the other side of the law always has way more to worry about, what I told you was just off the top of my head, there's definitely way more problems that come out of being arrested for prostitution

Oh here's another one I just thought of, if she has children and she's a single parent, she will lose custody of them, whereas your wife won't even hear what you are arrested for if you call your lawyer first and have him do his job

OK, but you're proving my point here. She has a ton to lose (arguably more than John, by your reasoning), so since the risk to her is great, she has to charge higher (this is including the risk of violence) to compensate for the overall risk.

I know about the Nordic model and I would never even visit a country like that lol


You are pretty much ignoring the topic here, here's a simple question:

If it was illegal in the Netherlands would they be charging more than $50 euros for 15 minutes?

If your answer is yes then you still agree with my only point, that sex becomes cheaper due to legality, because whores have to price competitively since there will be more women doing it, as it is now "safer"

I never said anything about "how cheap" or what is a "reasonable base rate" or anything like that, you are pretty much arguing against a strawman

If it would be more expensive when its illegal then my point still stands, and if you are going to say it will be cheaper I'd really like to see you explain that nonsense lol

That would be an interesting question in general. That is, the question of would you increase your prices if your services or wares were made illegal. I don't know the answer, and don't know if there has been work done on answering this question (probably has been). I would guess and say yes, for the same reasons.

I didn't argue that the price is unfair or unreasonable. I don't care, because I don't buy sex, just like I don't care how costly some painting is because I don't care about buying art. My point was that supply-demand is not always the only factors that are reflective of the prices you get, and is an oversimplification. I used Netherlands as an example of how it's still expensive, regardless of supply and demand. I'd be curious to know the average cost of a whore in the Netherlands before it became legal, but I can't seem to find anything.

Something could be cheaper, but still expensive. A Toyota Corolla is cheaper than a Mercedes Benz, but still expensive because it's a vehicle. Here with this analogy, the OP is trying to say that vehicles are too expensive for xyz reasons. If you compare the average costs of whores in the Netherlands with whores in the US from "escort" sites, it's about the same.

There's two separate arguments here. One is that the cost of sex is high (relative to income and cost of living), which is what the OP is saying for the reason he stated (I'm disregarding the cuck commentary, because it's just commentary and doesn't add to the initial point he's making). The other argument is that legality affects the price of prostitution.

With the first, I agree that it's high, but that's my opinion that has little to zero value because I don't use them. An hour of sex shouldn't cost the same as a high-class restaurant meal, but that's just like my opinion, man. With the second, I do think that illegality increases the price for the consumer, but the problem here is comparing apples and oranges. In the US it's illegal and in the Netherlands it isn't. You'd have to look at the costs within a country pre and post-legalization.

We could be the world's top economists and still get it wrong, because the data might show otherwise.

 

[BlkPillPres]

OK, but you're proving my point here. She has a ton to lose (arguably more than John, by your reasoning), so since the risk to her is great, she has to charge higher (this is including the risk of violence) to compensate for the overall risk.

JFL

DUDE, THAT'S MY POINT

Its illegal, and it being illegal means the John is paying to cover the risk of the whore and himself, like people say "it's the price of doing business".

Prostitution is expensive because you are paying to primarily cover the risk a sex worker faces and also your risk, but your risk is obviously minimal in comparison to her with the "line of work" she's in and the side of the law she's on, that's why "it's the price of doing business", its the extra you pay just to be able to have a chance to pay her for sex

Like I said in my last response, you are agreeing with me, why are we arguing?

There's two separate arguments here.

The only one I was arguing is that prostitution being legal makes it cheaper, you saying what X price is in X country is a red herring, it literally has nothing to do with the point I was arguing at all

The price could be $1000 for 5 minutes in Uzbekistan and my point would still stand, if it was illegal men would likely have to pay more, that's how it always works. Legality makes a practice more common and makes more people take part in it as "service providers", which means more competition, which means more deals and competitive pricing which benefits customers (like I said, supply and demand)

Anything else you are talking about has nothing to do with what I was arguing

If there's one brothel in the area they can charge $50 for 15 minutes, but let another one nearby pop up and charge $45 for 15 minute and watch how quickly that same brothel starts changing its pricing once its starts losing consistent customers to their competition

That isn't the only thing they can do, they can instead up the quality of the women they have to make the price worth it and then the men will stay, but that may actually cost them more, as the more beautiful the woman the more she expects to be paid, so they'll keep their customers, but they'll lose a bit of profit, these whores will know they have some leverage under those circumstances

 

[Tenshi]

I'm relatively well off but I can tell you something : I will NEVER buy something any fucking retarded normie can get for free. Better trucel than cuck. My money is better in my pocket than financing the liberal degeneracy destroying the world right now.

cope if you think only incels pay hookers

idk in the US but where I'm from I'd say most normies will go to brothels now and then, even some chadlites I know have told me they have paid for sex at least once

sometimes you just don't want to go through the bs and to be quite honest when you're paying you can fuck way better looking girls even when you're not particulary ugly

 

[The Abyss]

Can't I make it last and get the most bang for the buck(pun unintentional)?

I hear in sea you pay for time but in West you're done once you cum even if you're still able to go.

 

[Deleted member 33091]

I hear in sea you pay for time but in West you're done once you cum even if you're still able to go.

Never began for PEcels here in the West

 

[BlkPillPres]

I hear in sea you pay for time but in West you're done once you cum even if you're still able to go.

Maybe it works like that in a few places, but nah, that doesn't sound accurate at all

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

cope if you think only incels pay hookers

idk in the US but where I'm from I'd say most normies will go to brothels now and then, even some chadlites I know have told me they have paid for sex at least once

sometimes you just don't want to go through the bs and to be quite honest when you're paying you can fuck way better looking girls even when you're not particulary ugly

Cucks are everywhere in the look department, who would have thought. That doesn't make me want to be one

 

[AlexAnguish]

supply demand and if she has a pimp he's taking his Chad profits

 

[BlkPillPres]

Cucks are everywhere in the look department, who would have thought. That doesn't make me want to be one

Pretty much all men pay for sex, if the word cuck now covers such a large majority, the word loses all meaning

Have you ever worked as a cashier, if so then you already know that even Chad has to buy his bitch a bunch of bullshit and waste his money to keep fucking her, you can see the look on his face as he hands you his credit card or the cash ("I don't want to buy this makeup, but I have too")

All men pay at the end of the day (if they are in a relationship)

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Pretty much all men pay for sex, if the word cuck now covers such a large majority, the word loses all meaning

Have you ever worked as a cashier, if so then you already know that even Chad has to buy his bitch a bunch of bullshit and waste his money to keep fucking her, you can see the look on his face as he hands you his credit card or the cash ("I don't want to buy this makeup, but I have too")

All men pay at the end of the day (if they are in a relationship)

Well, call me volcel if you want, but I guarantee you no foid will ever consider me like a walking purse.
I'm too poor anyway JFL

 

[BlkPillPres]

Well, call me volcel if you want, but I guarantee you no foid will ever consider me like a walking purse.
I'm too poor anyway JFL

You mean no woman would consider you a walking purse NOW

Being born poor isn't your fault, dying poor is definitely your fault

There's a lot of wiggle room from age 18 to age 50, if you can't get rich by then, you weren't really trying all that much

 

[AutisticMonstrosity]

Prostitution is expensive for two simple reasons:
1. Its illegal, and it being illegal means the John is paying to cover the risk of the whore and himself, like people say "it's the price of doing business".

2. Supply and demand. In places where prostitution is legal, it is much cheaper

Bullshit. Prices are the same between Sweden and Finland, even though in the other it's legal and in the other illegal.

Also, 100 US dollars per hour is very good price in the US, is that even real? Prices are cheaper in the USA (where GDP per capita (= living standards) is much higher than in Finland) than in Sweden or Finland, despite it being illegal in the USA and police actually actively trying to enforce the law. 250 euros is the minimum price here for an hour, some foreigners do 220 and even 200, but no-one under 200 euros an hour. 200 euros = 250 dollars

EDIT: in Sweden of course "prostitution is illegal" but the escorts don't break any laws, only the customers. But in the USA, where both selling and buying are illegal, prices are much lower than in Sweden, especially compared to average monthly salary (circa 5500 US dollars).