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There are taboos in place to deny our evolutionary nature, and these taboos are, by order of increasing strength:
1) Taboo on mental traits that each sex finds attractive: strong in mixed social settings (hypocrisy and delusion dominate), strong in universities and places of learning, weak in specific social settings (friends of same age and gender), weak in media (literature, internet...)
What I mean exactly by this: there is strong evidence, notably in romance novels (chick-lit), that women desire assertive men who do not necessarily respect them. This truth is mostly avoided or denied in most social situations.
2) Taboo on sexual intercourse: strong in mixed social settings, moderately strong in specific social settings, weak in universities and places of learning, weak in media
What I mean exactly by this: talking in precise terms rather than allusions about coitus is still taboo nowadays. Only media and research papers allow more freedom of expression.
3) Taboo on sexual acts associated with domination (aka sodomy, which used to include both oral and anal sex): very strong in mixed social settings, strong in specific social settings (nobody truly is comfortable discussing sodomy), moderately strong in universities and places of learning (yeah, I know Harvard did a class on anal sex, but they were pretty much outliers), moderately strong in media (even on this forum, "anal" is kind of a loaded word and discussions on sodomy are frowned upon)
What I mean exactly by this: self-explanatory.
4) Taboo on the importance of looks: very strong in mixed social settings, moderately strong in specific social settings (the ones most likely to freely discuss the importance of looks are groups of young female friends, but even then, the discussion is not totally free, and implies a lot of willful delusion about one's own level on the looks hierarchy, and the level of close friends or enemies), very strong in universities and places of learning (the reason I'm forced to expose all of this on a forum rather than in a university thesis is because it would have trouble getting approved), moderately strong in media (almost absent of literature and movies, and taboo subject on most internet forums).
What I mean exactly by this: self-explanatory.
As to the reason these taboos exist, my guess is that they evolved over the course of millions of years to improve social stability and decrease strife. Chads running around in a village, fucking every girl they can find, and laughing in the face of virgin ugly men, probably wasn't very conducive to social cooperation and brotherly love. Taboos evolved on sex to convince men and women that another conception of love and matrimonial life was possible, one not based on raw domination/dubmission. In essence, it was about lying to them on their true nature, attempting to hide their true nature. The taboos, at some point, were judged unsufficient and were then reinforced by increasingly threatening religious systems.
Incels are resented mostly because they break a taboo. I am not convinced that this taboo is still useful, though, in the absence of a religion to back it and now that plastic surgery exists.
1) Taboo on mental traits that each sex finds attractive: strong in mixed social settings (hypocrisy and delusion dominate), strong in universities and places of learning, weak in specific social settings (friends of same age and gender), weak in media (literature, internet...)
What I mean exactly by this: there is strong evidence, notably in romance novels (chick-lit), that women desire assertive men who do not necessarily respect them. This truth is mostly avoided or denied in most social situations.
2) Taboo on sexual intercourse: strong in mixed social settings, moderately strong in specific social settings, weak in universities and places of learning, weak in media
What I mean exactly by this: talking in precise terms rather than allusions about coitus is still taboo nowadays. Only media and research papers allow more freedom of expression.
3) Taboo on sexual acts associated with domination (aka sodomy, which used to include both oral and anal sex): very strong in mixed social settings, strong in specific social settings (nobody truly is comfortable discussing sodomy), moderately strong in universities and places of learning (yeah, I know Harvard did a class on anal sex, but they were pretty much outliers), moderately strong in media (even on this forum, "anal" is kind of a loaded word and discussions on sodomy are frowned upon)
What I mean exactly by this: self-explanatory.
4) Taboo on the importance of looks: very strong in mixed social settings, moderately strong in specific social settings (the ones most likely to freely discuss the importance of looks are groups of young female friends, but even then, the discussion is not totally free, and implies a lot of willful delusion about one's own level on the looks hierarchy, and the level of close friends or enemies), very strong in universities and places of learning (the reason I'm forced to expose all of this on a forum rather than in a university thesis is because it would have trouble getting approved), moderately strong in media (almost absent of literature and movies, and taboo subject on most internet forums).
What I mean exactly by this: self-explanatory.
As to the reason these taboos exist, my guess is that they evolved over the course of millions of years to improve social stability and decrease strife. Chads running around in a village, fucking every girl they can find, and laughing in the face of virgin ugly men, probably wasn't very conducive to social cooperation and brotherly love. Taboos evolved on sex to convince men and women that another conception of love and matrimonial life was possible, one not based on raw domination/dubmission. In essence, it was about lying to them on their true nature, attempting to hide their true nature. The taboos, at some point, were judged unsufficient and were then reinforced by increasingly threatening religious systems.
Incels are resented mostly because they break a taboo. I am not convinced that this taboo is still useful, though, in the absence of a religion to back it and now that plastic surgery exists.
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