Blackpill The real reason why hitler lost the war!!!

[HighTGymcel]

Stalin looks like an ethnic but like a high tier normie but he was a turbo manlet only 5'5

Hitler whitemoggs him but stalin has the better face and hitler was height mogging stalin with his 175cms.

This war was about looks not something else.

 

[Napoleon de Jizzbal]

Hitler lost because of his love for aryan chads

 

[Marquis de Sade]

His shitty leadership lost him the war.

 

[gnomen1]

Hitler lost the war because Germany was a democracy.

 

[Sammy]

His shitty leadership lost him the war.

Yeah, Stalin and Hitler were kinda like opposites mentally, Hitler started out mentally well but over the course of the war become more and more unhinged, he took direct control of the military and didn't allowed his generals autonomy. Stalin on the other hand started out mentally unhinged, he trusted no-one and killed anyone he suspected of being disloyal, but because of many defeats he eventually become more trusting and started allowing his generals the freedom to do what they wanted.

 

[FinnCel]

Hitler was a manlet chad

 

[CuriousG]

Nice post bro

 

[AutisticCopecel]

attacking the soviets was a mistake. inb4 hur the soviets would have attacked anyway!
commies had shit eqipment and tanks germany could have won a defensive position

 

[HighTGymcel]

Hitler was a manlet chad

He still heightmogged stalin

 

[Hikikomori]

He wanted too much too fast was his problem. Also to state the obvious, attacking the ruskies wasn't the best idea at that time ... he had enough on his plate as it was.

 

[Deleted member 16023]

Hitler lost because Russia no 1 muthafucka

 

[Sammy]

attacking the soviets was a mistake. inb4 hur the soviets would have attacked anyway!
commies had shit eqipment and tanks germany could have won a defensive position

A world ruled by the Nazis and Soviets would be actually good.

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

Germany's military strategy went to absolute shit after the initial success of taking over Europe.

Blitzkrieg was fine for taking Europe, but they should of consolidated those gains, and then switched to divide and conquer strategy over the following decades. They could of eventually got the English on their side, and then taken out the Russians, and then turned on the English. Germany and the US would have ended up as the current 2 super powers.

 

[AutisticCopecel]

A world ruled by the Nazis and Soviets would be actually good.

it would be good that both of them held on the molotov-ribrentov pact and actually didnt try to kill eachother
and start a devastating war for both

 

[HighTGymcel]

Hitler lost because Russia no 1 muthafucka

cope

 

[reeve23]

had hitler won, he would be modern day hero and praise by everyone and Stalin would be the most evil man in history

 

[oldcel75]

He killed all of his Jews instead of using them.
USA and USSR used them.
In USA they built the atomic bomb that save the life of millions american and japanese. In USSR they were running the weapons industry and built t-34 like crazy.

 

[HighTGymcel]

He killed all of his Jews instead of using them.
USA and USSR used them.
In USA they built the atomic bomb that save the life of millions american and japanese. In USSR they were running the weapons industry and built t-34 like crazy.

 

[Sammy]

I honestly don't get some incels being fascists/natsocs, Nazi Germany was the most Chad worshipping country that has ever existed, they literally had statues of nude Chad men everywhere, Chad officers had regular orgies with 10/10 Aryan women while the ugly men were used as meat shields in the wars.

 

[Footmat]

I honestly don't get some incels being fascists/natsocs, Nazi Germany was the most Chad worshipping country that has ever existed, they literally had statues of nude Chad men everywhere, Chad officers had regular orgies with 10/10 Aryan women while the ugly men were used as meat shields in the wars.

Correct. Nothing else to say

 

[StaroRavager]

attacking the soviets was a mistake

 

[Marquis de Sade]

All of Germany knew the pitfalls from fighting on two fronts from ww1. Hitler attacked Russia before securing the western front.
He declared war on America, while i don't doubt they'd eventually join the war against him, it was a massive blunder on his part.
His insistence to constantly bail out his shitty ally - yes you Italy - committing troops to africa was also a mistake, stretching his forces and supplies.
He never allowed his forces to retreat an regroup causing massive amounts of soldiers being taken prisoner. Overall he was a terrible commander, if he'd left the military to decide its own strategic course of actions i believe they'd of done a lot better an the war would of lasted longer, probably ending with a nuke being dropped on Germany.

 

[Deleted member 17724]

Nazi Germany was the most Chad worshipping country that has ever existed, they literally had statues of nude Chad men everywhere

It was more about worship of looksmaxxing.
Also, me being incel does not mean that I cannot feel admiration for such a great nation even if I may have been an outcast had I actually lived there.

 

[IamLost]

Hitler lost because germans are pussies. It's a scientific fact.

 

[Deleted member 17599]

He killed all of his Jews

In USA they built the atomic bomb that save the life of millions american and japanese.

 

[Sammy]

It was more about worship of looksmaxxing.
Also, me being incel does not mean that I cannot feel admiration for such a great nation even if I may have been an outcast had I actually lived there.

Great in what way? They literally went from a highly-industrialized modern country to a literal pile of rubble in a bit over 10 years.

 

[AutisticCopecel]

All of Germany knew the pitfalls from fighting on two fronts from ww1. Hitler attacked Russia before securing the western front.
He declared war on America, while i don't doubt they'd eventually join the war against him, it was a massive blunder on his part.
His insistence to constantly bail out his shitty ally - yes you Italy - committing troops to africa was also a mistake, stretching his forces and supplies.
He never allowed his forces to retreat an regroup causing massive amounts of soldiers being taken prisoner. Overall he was a terrible commander, if he'd left the military to decide its own strategic course of actions i believe they'd of done a lot better an the war would of lasted longer, probably ending with a nuke being dropped on Germany.

i dont think the meme that hitler was a bad general and his millitary advisors were good is true
attacking the soviets was a big time mistake but he had the right idea of it
he wanted to take the oil fields from the caucases from army group south while his generals wanted a massive attack on moscow like that was gona make the soviets capitulate(therefore was the big failure on moscow) the commanders defyied him and got destroyed outside of moscow
now it was too late to get the oil so they lost

 

[The Abyss]

Hitler lost 'cos he took on too many sides at once, numbers game. Openly trying to change shit gets a lot of pushback from ppl, the Jews run the long con working from behind the scenes putting ppl into the right places building strength slowly over time & by the time ppl realize what's happened it's too late. Gradual change gets a lot better results than a lightning bolt, the next generation born into less freedom know not of what they have lost as it was lost before they existed therefore this is normal to them but a step backwards from the perspective of those that came before.

 

[gnomen1]

i dont think the meme that hitler was a bad general and his millitary advisors were good is true
attacking the soviets was a big time mistake but he had the right idea of it
he wanted to take the oil fields from the caucases from army group south while his generals wanted a massive attack on moscow like that was gona make the soviets capitulate(therefore was the big failure on moscow) the commanders defyied him and got destroyed outside of moscow
now it was too late to get the oil so they lost

Yes. Franz Halder created the postwar narrative that Hitler lost the war because he was not focusing on Moscow. Hitler was a geostrategist and understood that the war was ultimately about resources.

But the war was essentially lost when the blitzkrieg in the east bled out the german army in 1941. The soviet union had a much larger population to draw manpower from.

 

[AutisticCopecel]

But the war was essentially lost when the blitzkrieg in the east bled out the german army in 1941. The soviet union had a much larger population to draw manpower from.

in the start of barbarossa germany had good fresh equipment(tanks etc) but it was usseles without oil soviets had old shit tanks and guns and were unprepared thats why he managed to push were he did who knows what could have been if the german army got the oil first ,made use of it and then attack on moscow it would be an different outcome im certain

 

[Marquis de Sade]

in the start of barbarossa germany had good fresh equipment(tanks etc) but it was usseles without oil soviets had old shit tanks and guns and were unprepared thats why he managed to push were he did who knows what could have been if the german army got the oil first ,made use of it and then attack on moscow it would be an different outcome im certain

The Germans were burning precious diesel for heat. They couldn't operate their panzers in the cold. The soldiers rifles would also jam because of the cold. They didn't have adequate winter gear.
When japan attacked America it allowed Russia to move its Siberian regiments away from eastern border with Japan to fight the germans in the west. These troops were experienced in arctic warfare and were a big part in the turn of the war.
The germans weren't prepared to fight in the winter conditions. Like napoleon before them, it accelerated their downfall.

 

[gnomen1]

in the start of barbarossa germany had good fresh equipment(tanks etc) but it was usseles without oil soviets had old shit tanks and guns and were unprepared thats why he managed to push were he did who knows what could have been if the german army got the oil first ,made use of it and then attack on moscow it would be an different outcome im certain

Most german landsers marched into Russia on foot. Just like Napolon did in 1812. The mechanized Wehrmacht is a myth, they depended on 750 000 horses in 1941.

Many would say that german losses around Moscow in the autumn and winter of 1941 destroyed the wehrmacht core. The experienced soldiers that captured Poland, France and the Balkans where destroyed in Vyazma, Vitebsk and Rzhev. These losses were irreplaceable.

Even if Germany had captured the Caucasus in 1942, it would be to late.

 

[AutisticCopecel]

The Germans were burning precious diesel for heat. They couldn't operate their panzers in the cold. The soldiers rifles would also jam because of the cold. They didn't have adequate winter gear.
When japan attacked America it allowed Russia to move its Siberian regiments away from eastern border with Japan to fight the germans in the west. These troops were experienced in arctic warfare and were a big part in the turn of the war.
The germans weren't prepared to fight in the winter conditions. Like napoleon before them, it accelerated their downfall.

true japan fucked up, germany had the worst allies anyone could ever imagine

Most german landsers marched into Russia on foot. Just like Napolon did in 1812. The mechanized Wehrmacht is a myth, they depended on 750 000 horses in 1941.

Many would say that german losses around Moscow in the autumn and winter of 1941 destroyed the wehrmacht core. The experienced soldiers that captured Poland, France and the Balkans where destroyed in Vyazma, Vitebsk and Rzhev. These losses were irreplaceable.

Even if Germany had captured the Caucasus in 1942, it would be to late.

yeah they didnt had a lot of tanks but the ones that they did have were good
what if germanys FIRST goal was to take the oil in 1941 and not 1942 just throw everything on south and hope for the best that is a better plan than they initialy had

 

[BlkPillPres]

Man this is too low IQ.

 

[gnomen1]

yeah they didnt had a lot of tanks but the ones that they did have were good
what if germanys FIRST goal was to take the oil in 1941 and not 1942 just throw everything on south and hope for the best that is a better plan than they initialy had

Hitler wanted to strike south, but the military high command worked against him. Hitler overruled his generals when he diverted troops south from Moscow and encircled over 1 million russian soldiers around Kiev. This weakened the thrust into Moscow, but Hitler thought that the war could only be won by capturing eastern Ukraine and Donbass(The same area that is experiencing a limited civil war today because of resources).

Hitler was probably right in his idea to strike south, but Franz Halder and the general staff wanted to imitate Napoleon.

This video explains much of the army movements of 1941.

 

[LDARBuddah]

Also anthem mogged Hitler ngl

 

[AutisticCopecel]

Hitler wanted to strike south, but the military high command worked against him. Hitler overruled his generals when he diverted troops south from Moscow and encircled over 1 million russian soldiers around Kiev. This weakened the thrust into Moscow, but Hitler thought that the war could only be won by capturing eastern Ukraine and Donbass(The same area that is experiencing a limited civil war today because of resources).

Hitler was probably right in his idea to strike south, but Franz Halder and the general staff wanted to imitate Napoleon.

This video explains much of the army movements of 1941.

how is this even possible? millitary generals not following orders from the leader?
stuff like this make me think that hitler should have purged his generals like stalin did

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

how is this even possible? millitary generals not following orders from the leader?
stuff like this make me think that hitler should have purged his generals like stalin did

you're starting to get it, hitler was nowhere near as brutal as other dictators, there was plenty of power sharing.

tbh all the arguments are pretty up in the air, truth is the germans were making the impossible work with very limited equipment and troops, again and again and again.
this or that resource or troop disadvantage seem utterly meaningless in light of this.
they only started losing when their communication codes were stolen, allies began betraying them, and their hubris made them ignore numerous warnings that came from 'inferior' armies like the eastern europeans watching their back.
they ignored those warnings until the russians were able to thrust straight into the core of eastern europe, forcing the eastern europeans to switch sides and the romanians to give their oil to the soviets instead of the national socialists, damning germany to lose.

up until then it didn't matter that they were reckless, underequipped and outnumbered, they won the battle x10000 times in a row in those same conditions.

 

[gnomen1]

how is this even possible? millitary generals not following orders from the leader?
stuff like this make me think that hitler should have purged his generals like stalin did

He probably should have purged them. Hitler was very suspicious about the officer corps loyalty. They tried to kill him many times. The 20th of July plot is one of many failed attempts.

Germany was weakened by democratic traditions and liberal ideas, especially from the jewish leadership of the Weimar Republic. Hitler gave the officer corps jobs and resources but they never had any loyalties. This is why the Nazis created ideological soldiers(the SS) to replace the ossified army overclass.

 

[BrendioEEE]

>This entire thread

 

[Mainländer]

That pic is a double, it isn't the real Stalin. They got a Chad that kinda looked like Stalin and photographed him to use as propaganda.

This is the real Stalin:

Hitler mogged him hard.

 

[littlemanhikicel]

Yeah, Stalin and Hitler were kinda like opposites mentally, Hitler started out mentally well but over the course of the war become more and more unhinged, he took direct control of the military and didn't allowed his generals autonomy. Stalin on the other hand started out mentally unhinged, he trusted no-one and killed anyone he suspected of being disloyal, but because of many defeats he eventually become more trusting and started allowing his generals the freedom to do what they wanted.

This. Hitler fucked up when betray Stalin. If not a diferent world we could have now.

 

[StoicNihilist]

Germany's military strategy went to absolute shit after the initial success of taking over Europe.

Blitzkrieg was fine for taking Europe, but they should of consolidated those gains, and then switched to divide and conquer strategy over the following decades. They could of eventually got the English on their side, and then taken out the Russians, and then turned on the English. Germany and the US would have ended up as the current 2 super powers.

Exactly. They should have taken the European continent in its entirety first, and over the next few decades slowly build thier power to invade Russia. Nazi Germany didn't stand a chance with the numbers they had.

 

[littlemanhikicel]

That pic is a double, it isn't the real Stalin. They got a Chad that kinda looked like Stalin and photographed it to use as propaganda.

This is the real Stalin:

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Hitler mogged him hard.

Makes more sense this pic tbh

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

That pic is a double, it isn't the real Stalin. They got a Chad that kinda looked like Stalin and photographed it to use as propaganda.

This is the real Stalin:

View attachment 119182

Hitler mogged him hard.

not surprised
even if you hate hitler you can't deny there was a strong air of authenticity, directness and a spirit of 'we're all in this together' about his movement
none of the cult of personality and faking and photo-retouchings and statesman statue-making and hidden voice-only megaphone public addresses of the soviets

 

[littlemanhikicel]

Exactly. They should have taken the European continent in its entirety first, and over the next few decades slowly build thier power to invade Russia. Nazi Germany didn't stand a chance with the numbers they had.

Yes Russians breeding was huge. The problem with the nazis was that search of improvement as society. Germans reproduce a lot with hitler ages but was forced by the political racial experiment. In the other hand soviet union was more chaotic. Russians been more ignorants breeding and fucking like rabbits. Even in the long run soviets would won because of his big breeding.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

He probably should have purged them. Hitler was very suspicious about the officer corps loyalty. They tried to kill him many times. The 20th of July plot is one of many failed attempts.

Germany was weakened by democratic traditions and liberal ideas, especially from the jewish leadership of the Weimar Republic. Hitler gave the officer corps jobs and resources but they never had any loyalties. This is why the Nazis created ideological soldiers(the SS) to replace the ossified army overclass.

yeah, hitler allowed a lot of contrarians to live and kneecap him, this is because he didn't despise his people like stalin did, simple as that. not even when he went totally nuts in 1945.

 

[starystulejarz]

Hitler lost because he was against (((them))) even tho he was backed by (((them))) for a while, they sacrificed him to create Israel.

 

[Deleted member 16455]

Hitler lost because of his love for aryan chads

 

[DaveBuster]

I honestly don't get some incels being fascists/natsocs, Nazi Germany was the most Chad worshipping country that has ever existed, they literally had statues of nude Chad men everywhere, Chad officers had regular orgies with 10/10 Aryan women while the ugly men were used as meat shields in the wars.

Sounds like a less extreme version of what we have today, plus at least it's open rather than papered over with "I can see Chad's aura and that's why I want to fuck him, you need to work on your personality inkel".