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Blackpill The quantifiability, efficacy and validity of psychology and psychiatry (the truth about and dark side of psychology, psychiatry and "therapy")

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First of all hey everyone, this account is relatively new and I'm fairly new to this specific community but I'm familiar with everything, although this is my first post I have been lurking for a very long time, and I think I made a much older account but I forgot the login info, but so anyways, I feel like the general slew of content here is quite repetitive and lacking, so I thought I'd contribute to this cute "blackpill" philosophy by giving you guys a nice little truth bomb which perhaps some of you may have never heard about or considered, although I can imagine a good amount of you already know this if you are or have been deep into the "redpill" philosophy, specifically on the topic of education. Make a big cup of some piping hot chamomile tea or get some snacks and soda or make a meal and sit down because this is a long one.

The entire fields of psychology and psychiatry are the most ignorantly endorsed pseudo-scientific "science" and practices out there, absolutely none of their claims are founded on medical or even scientific evidence, it's literally all just pure ideology speculation and opinion, these fields are no different than new-age alternative health quackery such as crystal healing and hindu cow-worshipping counselling for the unholy; it's the biggest "scientific" joke in the actual medical, scientific and academic community, it is not a science and it never will be a science because it was literally started by ideologues trying to sell their books and present their own personal philosophical insights and opinions on the nature of the human mind (i.e freud, jung, piaget), which, for the record, NOBODY (that we know of) understands (hopefully yet); and "therapy" is even more of a joke than the already pre-existing pseudo-scientific "sciences" which it derives its practices from. In a way, you could say that psychology and psychiatry is the result of attempting to mix all of the retrospective philosophies and hypothesis of consensus sociology, claiming it as factual and objective, developing general framworks of administering and practicing its respective beliefs as valid treatment (i.e ASA, DSM5, "licensing"), adding sedating medications (anti-anxiolytics i.e alprazolam, anti-"psychotics" i.e clozapine, anti-"depressants" i.e fluoxetine) into said framworks of treatment because a handful of people in a non-placebo controlled trial felt like it helped them, a little bit of deception and then executing all that in conjunction with one another.

Still don't believe me? Ok. Sit down with aNy medical doctor and prompt them to comment on the validity of psychology and psychiatry, and if you really want them to laugh at you, tell them how they should be using it in their day-to-day practice of ACTUALLY CURING people to better improve the livelyhoods of their patents by patronizing and smoothtalking them with prewritten questions and statements from a pre-written checklist and script made by the multi-billion dollar drug company that just so happens will pay you to "promote" their drugs. Or actually, how about this, sit down with an actual psychologist or psychiatrist and ask them 1. how many patients they've "counselled", 2. how many of those they've "cured" from their "mental illness" and 3. what credible scientific research and or clinical trials proves that people have either a "chemical imbalance" in the brain or have the mental illness they've been "diagnosed" with and see if they actually disprove what you're implying. Better yet, conduct a personal experiment to demonstrate the quantifiabliity of this so-called objectively scientfiic and "fact-based" practice. Walk into the office of a psychologist, psychiatrist or "therapist" and lie to them about how you feel, tell them that you experience hallucinations, tell them for example you see dead children that talk to you everywhere you go and hear voices in your head, most likely the psychiatrist will "diagnose" you with schizophrenia and psychosis and "prescribe" you "anti-psychotic medication" in the form of either potent barbiturates benzodiazepens or the like. Now ask them if they can actually confirm your diagnosis with some kind of test or non-subjective administrative measurement, most likely, they will just stare at you and flat out tell you there is no way they can do that. Congratulations, you are now "officially" mentally ill and have a legal supply of highly addictive and potent psychoactive substances usually sold on the street to drug addicts and manufactured by organized crime gangs. Now walk, or limp into an actual medical doctors office in a hospital and say you have a broken bone and cannot walk, immediately the doctor will use proven testing methods and technologies, in this case, he will use energetic high-frequency elcotromagnetic radiation (x-ray) to target the alleged area where you have "broken" your bone and generate a physical representation of that in the form of a picture and not only verify that you do not have a broken bone but show you how and why he came about his conclusion as to why you don't have a broken bone and why you are actually lying. The reason that this is so, is because modern medicine is in fact a valid science and based on numerous credible research experiments and clinical trials which have proven the efficiency and effectiveness of its treatments, whereas psychology, psychiatry and "therapy" is based on pure subjectivity, speculation and is in fact not based on any credible research experiments and clinical trials which do not prove that their "treatments" are either efficient or effective and in most cases actually WORSEN the condition of the "patient", and in nearly every one of these "studies", there is a presence of corporate conglomerate funding and influence.

The very standards of criteria that these so called "doctors" use are actually MADE by the same multi-billion dollar drug manufacturing corporations that they just so coincidentally seem to also be PROMOTING through these "doctors" like poster girls in labcoats and talking banner ads but for "mental health", in many cases "prescribing" them to people who don't actually need them, and if people exhibit any sort of behaviors which goes against consensus reality and conventionally accepted thoughts opinions moods and decisions, say, you show up to work depressed, or heaven forbid you actually be honest to someone about your feelings, they will usually redirect you to a "therapist"; they'll say things like "dude, get help" or, "you seriously need help", or "you're sick, go see a psychiatrist", and in some cases if you disturb people enough they will contact the authorities which will throw you in a mental asylum / ward and force you to attend regular "therapy" sessions once you get out. But guess what, if they "diagnose" you with a mental illness and prescribe you these drugs and you refuse to take them, they will lock you up and, quite literally through the use of brute force force them down your throat. Of course, due to the addictive and psychoactive nature of these substances the use of these "medications" for "treatment" almost always results in the "patient" developing a physical and even psychological dependence on them which is actually reinforced by, again of course, these "doctors", "it's a necessary evil" they may say, or, "it's for the sake of your mental health" they'll add. And who pays for all of this? Who pays for your imprisonment, forceful administration of medication and "therapy"? You, of course. In most cases, these "patients" become severely addicted to these drugs and due to the volatile nature of their behavior will usually start abusing them, and because they abuse them, their tolerance to it increases, and from there, their "doctor" will continue to increase the dose until eventually, you overdose and die or end up homeless and leeching off illegal drug dealers and if it's really bad, robbing pharmacies, which usually ends in your arrest, and then of course you're back to the ward or prison taking the same drugs from these corporations and paying for them with slave (prison) labor or the taxes of other people. So you see, it creates a cycle or slippery slope which most are not prepared to go down, and you'd think that perhaps the people tasked with "treating" you might be not only invulnerable to such outcomes but in fact most of them are hooked on the very drugs that they prescribe and suffer from the same "mental illnesses" that they've created.

But what do these "doctors" promote? what do they actually tell you? Of course, there's the general smooth talking and pre-manufactured statements questions and prompts, but more often than not, and more worryingly, they will enforce consensus reality, the status quo, conventionally accepted dogma and even their own personal beliefs and biases. For example, in communist russia or the USSR, if you were to exhibit traits of a capitalist be them positive or negative, you would most likely be perceived and even diagnosed as mentally ill by psychologists and psychiatrists, similarly, if you were to exist in nazi germany and display traits of one who was in belief of the values of judao-christian morality, or even just be jewish, these "doctors" would diagnose you with mental illness, if you were to exist in the middle east and be homosexual or the like, you would, again, be diagnosed as mentally ill and so on and so forth. Now, i'm not suggesting or endorsing judaism homosexuality or whatever i'm just trying to point out how nations, through the use of propoganda, status quo, dogma and consensus reality influence psychology, psychiatry and "therapy" and turn them into tools to enforce their agenda, be it directly or indirectly, but for some reason, people will not admit that this is in fact a valid possibility of occurrence to date in the late-stage capitalist west.

Here's some more content you should check out if you would like to investigate this further or learn more about it




 
The Daniel Mackler video is a must watch for anyone thinking about therapy.
 
The hard thing is though how do you treat mental illness? I agree most psychologists are pulling shit out of their ass but you can't deny that crazy people exist.
 
TLDR, but as a dude with a psychology diploma: psychology is bullshit.
 
TL;DR Drugs are bad, nazis are bad, communists are bad, mmkay

Seriously though, was an enjoyable and informative read. It articulated thoughts I've already had in a lucid manner
 
What did you expect? Every psychologist is either a stoner, or wanted to be something else, but didnt meet the grade cut.
 
The Daniel Mackler video is a must watch for anyone thinking about therapy.
indeed
The hard thing is though how do you treat mental illness? I agree most psychologists are pulling shit out of their ass but you can't deny that crazy people exist.
First of all, you are presenting a loaded question by assuming that the concept of "mental illness" which is derived from modern psychology and psychiatry is valid thus commiting a loaded question fallacy, but anyways, to this i would give you a simple example of an argument pertaining to the subjective nature of human sociology, logic, morality and reality: somewhere far away in the amazon rain forest today there are tribes and cultures which practice cannibalism, when someone dies, they will lay out the corpse chop it up into little pieces cook it up and eat it, relatively, hundreds of years ago in the western world, witch burning, exorcism, and mysticism was practiced, if you exhibited traits which fell in line with the logical framwork developed at the time which mainly consisted of teachings from the old testament and folklore, you were deemed possessed by demons or satan himself, or a witch and burned at the stake or severely beaten many times to death as you were "unwell", similarly, in certain places today in for example, the middle east, this is a reality, islam is the only reality which exists and the modern concept of "mental illness" is not even recognized as something worthy of consideration, and as such, anyone who, again, exhibits traits which falls in line with the logical framework they have, say, if you are a homosexual, or a non-muslim or even just live as regular western people do will be deemed as possessed, or "deceived by satan", or even just mentally sick / insane, in certain ancient tribes it was completely normal to yell and yap about and scream and shout with no reason, today, if a contemporary modern psychologist or even a regular modern westerner were to observe someone like that, they would deem them as psychotic and administering the "treatments" to these things is completely normal, because everyone else does it, because everyone else recognizes that those people are mentally unwell, because it is the consensus reality, so in relation to what you were saying, the only real reason we call people crazy is because their philosophy, morality, background, culture and essentially their reality either does not fall in line with ours at all or directly conflicts with it, so to your statement as to how one cannot deny that "crazy people exist", why not? can you explain why crazy people do in fact exist?


for the record i'm not trying to be "that guy", i'm just trying to show you my point, we all have our own perceptions of reality and function conjunctively to support our collective subconscious, and when people go against that, we attack them, i'm not saying this is or isn't justified, just pointing it out, an obscure truth of sorts, it's how we function as a species
IQ mogs me
lol

TLDR, but as a dude with a psychology diploma: psychology is bullshit.
double lol

Which video is that?
the one that says "Why I Quit Being a Therapist -- Six Reasons by Daniel Mackler". That's the main one, but there's also "Former Therapist critiques process of becoming a psychotherapist: Daniel Mackler speaks"

TL;DR Drugs are bad, nazis are bad, communists are bad, mmkay

Seriously though, was an enjoyable and informative read. It articulated thoughts I've already had in a lucid manner
haha thanks, yeah these are thoughts i've also had from personal observations i've made along with of course external sources of information which validated them and i just felt like venting / expressing some of them because i was bored and slightly annoyed thinking about this video i saw of someone going on in depth on "depression" and therapy and psychologists and whatnot, it's actually pretty messy and didn't really concluded "everything" or articulated all the thoughts you've had but eh, i tried reorganizing it after i typed it out to the best of my (motivational) ability and it was more of a "rant-vent" that i re-organized into a "blackpill philosophy" contribution, which i suppose it kind of is for those who haven't put much thought on the matter lol

What did you expect? Every psychologist is either a stoner, or wanted to be something else, but didnt meet the grade cut.
heh, well i wouldn't say they're all stoners, i'd say that's more in line with the *recent* influx of psychology majors and maybe some of the hippies but i see what you're saying. and lol i wasn't expecting anything, i've already known this for quite some time i just felt like typing some of it out and getting it out of my system because i'm bored and annoyed and have nothing to do and no-one to talk to and thought this may broaden some people's horizons and freshen up the usual "reee fuck wymen" threads that are so prevalent and maybe even "contribute" to the "blackpill" philosophy but well...yeah lol i'm on a fucking internet incel forum...what did yOu expect? ;d kek
 
Just a quick tip: when posting in online forums, brevity is important. You don't have to dumb things down, but at least use paragraphs and try not to be overly descriptive.
 
Quick answer: yes, but like every science.
 
No wonder women have such an interest in psychology. It's all bullshit.
 
Just a quick tip: when posting in online forums, brevity is important. You don't have to dumb things down, but at least use paragraphs and try not to be overly descriptive.
lol, thanks yeah i get what you're saying, this isn't my first rodeo on forums / online except for of course this one, but i was just trying to articulate myself to the best of my ability and made sure people understood what i was saying also it was a nice way to vent some more by throwing all the "descriptions" in kek. Like i said though it was more like a vent re-organized / structured and modified into a "blackpill" post (i realized after typing it out that it kind of fit the profile for one). I suppose i could've just went "ree fuking (((shrinks))) are just corporation shills and brainwashed fagits" or something but where's the engagement and lucidity in that

Quick answer: yes, but like every science.
no, psychology and psychiatry are not sciences, they are liberal arts

No wonder women have such an interest in psychology. It's all bullshit.
LOL. Misogyny on point my friend
 
First of all, you are presenting a loaded question by assuming that the concept of "mental illness" which is derived from modern psychology and psychiatry is valid thus commiting a loaded question fallacy, but anyways, to this i would give you a simple example of an argument pertaining to the subjective nature of human sociology, logic, morality and reality: somewhere far away in the amazon rain forest today there are tribes and cultures which practice cannibalism, when someone dies, they will lay out the corpse chop it up into little pieces cook it up and eat it, relatively, hundreds of years ago in the western world, witch burning, exorcism, and mysticism was practiced, if you exhibited traits which fell in line with the logical framwork developed at the time which mainly consisted of teachings from the old testament and folklore, you were deemed possessed by demons or satan himself, or a witch and burned at the stake or severely beaten many times to death as you were "unwell", similarly, in certain places today in for example, the middle east, this is a reality, islam is the only reality which exists and the modern concept of "mental illness" is not even recognized as something worthy of consideration, and as such, anyone who, again, exhibits traits which falls in line with the logical framework they have, say, if you are a homosexual, or a non-muslim or even just live as regular western people do will be deemed as possessed, or "deceived by satan", or even just mentally sick / insane, in certain ancient tribes it was completely normal to yell and yap about and scream and shout with no reason, today, if a contemporary modern psychologist or even a regular modern westerner were to observe someone like that, they would deem them as psychotic and administering the "treatments" to these things is completely normal, because everyone else does it, because everyone else recognizes that those people are mentally unwell, because it is the consensus reality, so in relation to what you were saying, the only real reason we call people crazy is because their philosophy, morality, background, culture and essentially their reality either does not fall in line with ours at all or directly conflicts with it, so to your statement as to how one cannot deny that "crazy people exist", why not? can you explain why crazy people do in fact exist?

for the record i'm not trying to be "that guy", i'm just trying to show you my point, we all have our own perceptions of reality and function conjunctively to support our collective subconscious, and when people go against that, we attack them, i'm not saying this is or isn't justified, just pointing it out, an obscure truth of sorts, it's how we function as a species

I see where you're coming from but I still think mental illness exists. You have to admit that physical deformities happen naturally so mental illness is just a deformity of the mind. A brain can develop wrong and not be able to perceive things correctly just like a man can be born blind and not be able to see. Yes reality is subjective but that doesn't mean every interpretation is valid. IT has an idea of how the world works but that doesn't make it right. No matter how much they believe the blue pill it doesn't make it true. Also when you look at mental illness definitions it specifically mentions that it has to go against the culture. So a cannibal in the Amazon might not be mentally ill but a cannibal from the US probably is. I do admit, psychology is not a perfect field and I think they're wrong on a lot but mental illness most likely does exist. If not how do you explain people like schizophrenics? I refuse to take the "its demons" answer since thats obvious religious bullshit that most likely isn't actually real.

tbh even though we disagree its nice having a legit conversation on here. I feel like its rare to actually get a long, thought out response.
 
I see where you're coming from but I still think mental illness exists. You have to admit that physical deformities happen naturally so mental illness is just a deformity of the mind. A brain can develop wrong and not be able to perceive things correctly just like a man can be born blind and not be able to see. Yes reality is subjective but that doesn't mean every interpretation is valid. IT has an idea of how the world works but that doesn't make it right. No matter how much they believe the blue pill it doesn't make it true. Also when you look at mental illness definitions it specifically mentions that it has to go against the culture. So a cannibal in the Amazon might not be mentally ill but a cannibal from the US probably is. I do admit, psychology is not a perfect field and I think they're wrong on a lot but mental illness most likely does exist. If not how do you explain people like schizophrenics? I refuse to take the "its demons" answer since thats obvious religious bullshit that most likely isn't actually real.

tbh even though we disagree its nice having a legit conversation on here. I feel like its rare to actually get a long, thought out response.
Hmm, ok. So, yes it's possible for one to be conceived with a congenital neurological deformity, however, I believe that, from the way and manner that you refer to this as "a deformity of the mind" as opposed to "a deformity of the brain" that you may have the wrong idea of what that might look like and perhaps an incorrect view of how biology and "the mind" works. Neurological disorders are structural, biochemical or electrical abnormalities in the brain, spinal cord, or other nerves can result in a range of symptoms, this could range anywhere from peripheral neuropathy to seizure disorders such as epilepsy, that is what would be, as I believe you were trying to say, "a deformity of the mind", whereby "mind" is used to refer to brain. However, I believe that you are insinuating that it is possible for one to be born with an "impaired mind" in the conventional sense referring to ones behavior, actions worldview etc, and to that i would say, that I don't believe that is possible without some sort of specific religious / creationist theory of conception, because, as I said before, the nature of reality and our perceptions is subjective to our own individual interpretations; as you said, a tribe that practices cannibalism to the detriment of their own physical health is seen as mentally sane and healthy wheras someone in the contemporary west would be arrested, thrown in a psychiatric ward etc. The "mind", is "the element of a person that enables them to be aware of the world and their experiences, to think, and to feel; the faculty of consciousness and thought." and/or "a person's ability to think and reason; the intellect.", which is much different than the brain, which is simply: "an organ of soft nervous tissue contained in the skull of vertebrates, functioning as the coordinating centre of sensation and intellectual and nervous activity.", the stark difference here is that we are not born with pre-disposed perceptions of reality, philosophy, morality, personality and behavior, rather, we formulate them over time based on our individual experiences and perceptions thereof, indeed, it is one of the quackorial frauds of psychology and psychiatry to prove that people are actually born with these so-called "mental illnesses", but it has never been proven. Why? Because that's just not how it works, our mind is separate from our brain, as the brain, which we are born with, is not a conscious actor, but rather, a vessel for which the mind operates from, a "neutral biological platform" so to speak, and so of course, elements of that platform may be dysfunctional, such as say the search function, or the executive scripts, and those things may in turn influence or even determine certain aspects of the platform, most specially the way it is perceived, but the whole platform is not inherently anything other than a functioning platform for which the mind operates on. A blind man can be blind, but that does not mean that he is insane, because he is blind, it just means he's blind, similarly, someone with, say, downs syndrome is not inherently insane or wrong about everything or not, they just have downs syndrome, the platform by which they operate on (their brain) is simply dysfunctional in certain areas, sure, that may influence, maybe even determine certain aspects of their behavior, world view etc, but it doesn't mean that they're this or that, they're just them.

". Also when you look at mental illness definitions it specifically mentions that it has to go against the culture. So a cannibal in the Amazon might not be mentally ill but a cannibal from the US probably is. I do admit, psychology is not a perfect field and I think they're wrong on a lot but mental illness most likely does exist" I don't know where you got this from, which definitions? the definitions of "mental illnesses" from the DSM5 simply describe the general "symptoms" which one who might have this "illness" would exhibit. But either way, in that regard, indeed it may very well be a common truth within the field as we have already agreed that the nature of reality is subjective and therefore the actions of people and their intentions thereof determine the mental wellbeing of an individual through the lens of this liberal art, but on that note i'd like to use that to further my case as per the un-quantifiable nature and validity of this "scientific field" and as another critique of its practices, if someone, who was for example, born and raised in ISIS by other people who were born and raised in ISIS were to slaughter, rape and torture "the infidels", by their logic, they're mentally well since they're simply carrying out the expected duties of the consensus reality which surrounds them and so are the people who taught them the things they've learnt, but what does that tell you? Well, to me, it tells me that this liberal art field trying so hard to be seen as a medical science is no more than a powerful existential tool to push whatever status-quo and consensus reality may exist: "oh, you don't murder the infidels and rape their corpses? what are you, mentally ill? why don't you want to get up in the morning, why do you think there's something wrong with this? nothing is wrong you're just mentally ill! here take these drugs and go to the therapist", a less religious version might be "...what? guys, comrade vladimorokovich is talking about killing himiself, he says we should all be given equal opportunity but not equal outcome and how he wants to amass great wealth and power and that the world we live in isn't worth living, i'm gonna call the psychologist and have him put in the ward just incase he doesn't do anything weird", similarly today "guys, did you see eric? he's like, super weird, he calls himself an "incel" and goes on this weird website and talks to these internet people all day, all he does is talk about how horrible women are, how terrible the government and the world is and why reality isn't worth living, and he keeps mentioning this "blackpill" thing and yapping about all these numbers and statistics and research studies to like...justify it or whatever....gosh, he's just...sick, anyways, i told the school nurse to get him into therapy or something because he seriously needs help!". Do you see what i'm trying to get at? It's a tool, and it's almost always used for branding those who do not comply with consensus reality insane, and so of course, all of the people in these scenarios would 9/10 be deemed to "suffer" from some sort of "mental illness", be given highly potent psychoactive drugs and sedated.

Now, onto "how i explain schizophrenics". First of all, the very word "schizophrenia" was invented by the swiss psychiatrist Eugen Bleuler, note psychiatrist, a "medical doctor" or practitioner of the liberal art of psychology, which, in my thread, i have already shown to be nothing more than pseudo-scientific ideological factories and glorified corporate shills, for the record anyone can become a "medical doctor" in almost anything, you can become a "medical doctor" in "naturopathic medicine" and diagnose people with whatever you want and "treat" them with ground up horse shit with basil leaves, it's pseudo-scientific. Anyways, so here you are assuming again that the concept of "mental illness" (which was, by the way, also made up by another practitioner of this liberal art) is in fact valid or has any scientific verifiability at all, which it actually does not, but regardless, let's just go through with the nature of this "mental illness" for the sake of discussion. So schizophrenia is "a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behaviour, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation." note the very definition of the term and the sheer subjectivity it carries, faulty perception? inappropriate actions and feelings? what does that even mean? what is a non-faulty perception? what are appropriate actions and feelings?is there a standard or "correct" perception you're supposed to have? of course hahah, it's guess what, consensus reality and status quo and pertains solely to the cultural context of the individual. We do not even understand reality (yet). Using this definition i could brand anyone as a "schizophrenic" and thus mentally ill because it is so vague and subjective that it's open to interpretation by anyone, and according to the American Psychiatric Association (note, association, .org. not .gov, not federal, just an association, or group of people, in this case, practitioners of this "medical" "science"), there is no actual "cure" for "schizophrenia"...don't you think that's just a little bit odd? In many societies and cultures around the world, namely tribes in tibet and kenya, people who, through the lens of contemporary consensus reality, psychology and psychiatry, are schizophrenic, or even psychotic, are actually not only seen as mentally healthy, but believed to be spiritually awakened and gifted, and are actually encouraged to "hone" this "gift" for the benefit of their community, i'm not suggesting that that is the case or that any of that is true or valid or whatever, in fact i'd say those tribes are pretty retarded, but anyways, my point is that what you or some psychology "doctor" thinks is "mental illness" is in fact not to someone else and vice versa. Place you or a modern psychologist in any other environment or reality other than the one which you or they exist in and you will see how even you or they may exhibit behaviors which the local population may deem as schizophrenic!: "Imbalances in the brain? Why? Therapy? We're all delusional and psychotic? What are they talking about? They're just crazy people"

So you see, the whole thing is just an unquantifiable pseudo-scientific interpretive subjective mess which completely depends on the perceptions, opinions and such of others, absolutely nothing more. There is no scientific evidence which proves that these "illnesses" exist, there is no scientific evidence which proves that there are "chemical imbalances in the brain", there isn't even any scientific evidence which proves "psychosis" and "schizophrenia" exist, even brain scan profiling research is completely inconclusive and conflicting. The only reason "schizophrenia" exists is because some liberal art person 100+ years ago named Eugen Bleuler watched some people do things he thought was weird and invented this "illness" and said it does. No research or scientific evidence has shown that this does in fact actually exist. It's all just speculation and fraudulent quackery, like a religion saying disbelievers are sick or something

Also please tell me why you refuse to take the "it's demons" answer? Can you actually present a counter-argument to show why you are in fact not mentally ill and are deserving of treatment via stoning and burning at the stake because you do not believe in jesus christ ;)? lol, it's baffling to think that something as culturally endorsed and psychology and psychiatry is not very different. Electro shock therapy, drugging and sedation, "therapy" a.k.a patronization, until just a few years ago lobotomy etc etc, these things are real and they happen under the guise of being medical and scientific when in fact they are not, it's all a massive cult-like ideological factory and scientific fraud which has no medical or scientific basis whatsoever
 
Here is another good video
 
These are some other good ones, first one the guy casually drops one of the main pillars of the red/blackpill using some of sapolsky's research as well



Essentially what I've tried to do in this thread is present a reasonably, albeit much more anecdotally but in the context of this site, an adequate case for depressive realism. So I say, the reason that you feel as though you are "depressed", that you are "anxious", that something is wrong not just with you but with our surroundings be it sociologically, economically, even existentially, is because it's true, there is something wrong, there's many things wrong with everything, and the worst part about it all is there's nothing you or anyone else can do about it because it's already set, you can't stop the collective unconscious of 7+ billion people once they're all moving in the same direction, can of course try to subvert the direction they are going in, you may even be able to force some to go the other way, but this is futile, because you will never amass the necessary numbers and support in order to move them all. "Depression" and "Anxiety" and these personality disorders is in fact a deep socio-economic indicator of failure
 

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