In real life, most incels will lie and claim they have (or at least had) a girlfriend. It's one of the reasons there's this illusion of "plenty of ugly guys with girlfriends". As a general rule you can assume that any sub5 you know that you've never seen with a woman and have never seen hard evidence of the fact they've been with a woman is a truecel no matter what they claim. But most normies aren't this blackpilled.
That said, most normies at least suspect the blackpill is true, so they'll be skeptical about an ugly guy claiming to have had experience with women, even if they'd never admit to thinking this. This is why the blackpill elicits such a strong emotional response, most people subconsciously at least suspect it to be true. That's why they don't get emotional over absurd conspiracy theories like flat earth.
I've known a lot of incels who lied about being with women and I caught some of them because details/names would change, or there were inconsistencies. In some cases, other's pointed out these inconsistencies and casted doubt behind the guy's back. Even if he didn't get caught in a lie, often their claims were met with silent skepticism or skepticism that was vocalized only when the guy wasn't around. Most people aren't confrontational enough to call out a liar if they don't have a dog in the race, especially these days where most people are high inhib as fuck.
First I'll tell you the WRONG way to go about it. Here's a post from someone on here from another thread:
This is the polar opposite of how you should do it for a multitude of reasons. For one, the more details you give, the more you have to remember. Secondly, there's a phenomenon where the more vocal someone is that something is/isn't true, the more it looks like they're lying. There's a name for this phenomenon (or maybe an idiom or some shit) but I can't think of it. "thou protest too much" is the closest thing I can think of, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
Instead, what you should do is casually mention you have an ex a small handful of times. Don't go into detail. In my case I'm old, so I LARP as being divorced. But I've only mentioned it a handful of times and I certainly don't bring it up out of the blue. You have to be organic with it.
A few things to note:
1) Don't claim to have a CURRENT wife/girlfriend. That will raise a lot more suspicion
2) Don't try this if someone at your job has known you for all your life.
3) Don't try this if you've lived in some small town your whole life where everyone else knows each other
4) Don't try this if you're genuinely autistic. If you're NT or just some self-diagnosed meme "autist" (I'm autistic because I like anime! I'm a very speshul boi!
) I'm sure you have the social skills to pull this off. But if you're sincerely autistic just don't bother.
5) Don't say anything explicitly sexual. In fact don't even allude to anything sexual. For starters, this will invoke the aforementioned "thou protest too much" effect. But more importantly a sub5 guy saying anything remotely sexual = gigacreep = complaints to HR. Don't worry, if you claim you had a girlfriend/wife in the past, they'll just assume you must not be a KHHV or whatever, assuming they believe you.
Personally, while I'm low IQ, i'm relatively NT. Obviously I have a few screws loose in the old noggin (Being a sub5 lifelong truecel would fuck with anyone's brain) but I have decent social skills so I come off as normal in public.
Another thing to note is that lying in general is something that should be kept to an absolute minimum. Not because of some morality bullshit, but the more you lie the more likely you are to get caught. Don't lie about stupid shit. But this is just one of those things you need to lie about in life. That said it won't make people like you, especially not women. Many will have their doubts but if you play your cards right you'll at least have some plausible deniability in their mind. You'll still be a creep for existing as a sub5....but you won't be perceived as being AS "creepy" as you would have. Just keep your head down around women as a sub5, but unless you're severely autistic you know that much already.
That said, most normies at least suspect the blackpill is true, so they'll be skeptical about an ugly guy claiming to have had experience with women, even if they'd never admit to thinking this. This is why the blackpill elicits such a strong emotional response, most people subconsciously at least suspect it to be true. That's why they don't get emotional over absurd conspiracy theories like flat earth.
I've known a lot of incels who lied about being with women and I caught some of them because details/names would change, or there were inconsistencies. In some cases, other's pointed out these inconsistencies and casted doubt behind the guy's back. Even if he didn't get caught in a lie, often their claims were met with silent skepticism or skepticism that was vocalized only when the guy wasn't around. Most people aren't confrontational enough to call out a liar if they don't have a dog in the race, especially these days where most people are high inhib as fuck.
First I'll tell you the WRONG way to go about it. Here's a post from someone on here from another thread:
This is the polar opposite of how you should do it for a multitude of reasons. For one, the more details you give, the more you have to remember. Secondly, there's a phenomenon where the more vocal someone is that something is/isn't true, the more it looks like they're lying. There's a name for this phenomenon (or maybe an idiom or some shit) but I can't think of it. "thou protest too much" is the closest thing I can think of, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
Instead, what you should do is casually mention you have an ex a small handful of times. Don't go into detail. In my case I'm old, so I LARP as being divorced. But I've only mentioned it a handful of times and I certainly don't bring it up out of the blue. You have to be organic with it.
A few things to note:
1) Don't claim to have a CURRENT wife/girlfriend. That will raise a lot more suspicion
2) Don't try this if someone at your job has known you for all your life.
3) Don't try this if you've lived in some small town your whole life where everyone else knows each other
4) Don't try this if you're genuinely autistic. If you're NT or just some self-diagnosed meme "autist" (I'm autistic because I like anime! I'm a very speshul boi!
) I'm sure you have the social skills to pull this off. But if you're sincerely autistic just don't bother.5) Don't say anything explicitly sexual. In fact don't even allude to anything sexual. For starters, this will invoke the aforementioned "thou protest too much" effect. But more importantly a sub5 guy saying anything remotely sexual = gigacreep = complaints to HR. Don't worry, if you claim you had a girlfriend/wife in the past, they'll just assume you must not be a KHHV or whatever, assuming they believe you.
Personally, while I'm low IQ, i'm relatively NT. Obviously I have a few screws loose in the old noggin (Being a sub5 lifelong truecel would fuck with anyone's brain) but I have decent social skills so I come off as normal in public.
Another thing to note is that lying in general is something that should be kept to an absolute minimum. Not because of some morality bullshit, but the more you lie the more likely you are to get caught. Don't lie about stupid shit. But this is just one of those things you need to lie about in life. That said it won't make people like you, especially not women. Many will have their doubts but if you play your cards right you'll at least have some plausible deniability in their mind. You'll still be a creep for existing as a sub5....but you won't be perceived as being AS "creepy" as you would have. Just keep your head down around women as a sub5, but unless you're severely autistic you know that much already.
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