I don't need to cope about something i know i can't change anymore because time travel isn't a think. I know looking the circumstances during my youth the things that i should have done and not.
Blackpill The Porn Industry is a establishment sponsored PSYOP to turn you into a numale SOYBOY
I don't need to cope about something i know i can't change anymore because time travel isn't a think. I know looking the circumstances during my youth the things that i should have done and not.
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yeah, you totally would have been a Slayer. For sure man
Not a slayer, but at least not a virgin. A normie or failed normie.
Normies don't masturbate 4-5 times EVERY day with hentai and porn from every game you play.
Normies have less time to masturbate and watch porn, because they did sports and socialize. Or have parents that won't allow them to go full autism in their rooms.
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Do I need to take you through the basics all over again? Man is a failed animal, human consciousness is primordially the awareness of limitation and finitude, this ontological gap emerges with humanity. Unlike other animals, we are caught up in the lure of spatial identification by absorbing the identity as a image which represents a fundamental aspect of the structure of subjectivity . Animals communicate in codes, with humans you get language which is be learned and is cultural, animals have a instinctual mating life, with humans sexuality can become a deadly passion that obsesses you to the point of disturbing the 'natural' daily rythm.
This thread is IS NOT about arguing whether NoFap gives you methaphysical powers JFL, if you're trying to debate whether you become a Chad monk after a month of abstinence from porn this is not the thread for you -- this is about deconstructing the liberal reaction to the NoFap community -- the way liberals react to men who refuse to consume ever more porn is obviously pathological.
Getting the easy dopamine from videogames and porn will increase your % chance of being social inept.
But also, i lost all of my school nerd friends in high school (They left), and making new ones was impossible, copes did help to feel better, but they made me forget all my anger and sadness, made me soy.
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Literally nothing you said has anything to do with why someone shouldn't masturbate lol, you are exhibit A of someone who strings together "big words" in "long sentences" and still manages to not even make a point, you use "big words" for the wrong purpose, its like you aren't even trying to get a point across, you aren't trying to convey any meaning, you are just trying to "sound smart"
How does anything you just said equal - "and that's why you shouldn't masturbate"
I wasted my time reading that long drawn out sentence expecting some kind of argument
Also JFL at "natural daily rhythm", imagine try to hold some kind of naturalist position on the most unnatural species on the planet, how natural is it for us to be communicating via pulses of light sent all around the world through the "internet"?
Our entire existence is unnatural, there's no point in imposing limitations on yourself based on some supposed standard of "natural living"
I have seen no such reaction and it seems like you have to seek it out so I'd ask which sites you are visiting, every interaction I've had with normies they are speaking about masturbation like it something normal to do or not to do, nobody is trying to push anyone to do it or tell them that they should
I really don't know where you're getting this
Ok........ then don't do that then
Nigga you expect me to read all this?
Did you use the Psy-ops that says "You can get prostrate cancer if you don't fap!" too?
LITERALLY THE FIRST LINE:
Nigga you expect me to read all this?
JFL dude you are the biggest fucking retard on the site, why even try to hold a position you don't intend on defending, you don't even believe in anything you say
Keep crying for me retard, you're being praised on anti-incel circles, you are the biggest fucktard on here lmfao. If incels in denial praise you, you know you're a cuck faggot.LITERALLY THE FIRST LINE:
JFL dude you are the biggest fucking retard on the site, why even try to hold a position you don't intend on defending, you don't even believe in anything you said
I don't understand how people don't get this, they aren't "masterminds" they are just conflict and chaos incarnate as a group
Feminists - "Gender is a social construct"
Transgenders - "You can be born the wrong gender with respect to your body"
Homosexuals - "Sexual attraction is on a spectrum (Kinsey Scale) and nobody is 100% only attracted to any one sex"
These three factions exist under the liberal umbrella and all of their world views conflict with or complicate each others world views, they can't even decide on the simplest shit like the nature of sexuality
JFL I get praised period for my writings, and that's because they are well thought out and I'm open minded, so my points I never just "muh woman bad" which is what appeals to low IQ types like yourself, sorry I'm not going to dumb down my posts for those unwilling to read and understand
I'll be waiting for that source for that nonsense claim of yours lol
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Well what else am I supposed to do? Just be frustrated all the time and feel even worse than I already do? Granted some people fap way too much, but I don't see how once a day or less is harmful.
I tried nofap and it made me feel worse. The only thing that's actually helped me has been avoiding 'real' porn, as fapping to it always made me feel awful afterwards.
I tried nofap and it made me feel worse. The only thing that's actually helped me has been avoiding 'real' porn, as fapping to it always made me feel awful afterwards.
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Lol sure thing
you feel worse around 2 month mark and get flatlined but past that point everything slowly becomes more fun. dopamine receptors reset and Vidya becomes enjoyable again
All you did was trade one vice for another, so what was the point
I'll keep it simple: The same thing that made the human animal develop language and computers is the thing that fundamentally alienated the human animal (to an extent) from the animal world of codes and instincts. Desire is what happens when 'animalistic' instincts get alienated. The model for this is are addictions with their endless cycle of withdrawal, craving and consumption -- Being a compulsory mastrubator porn addict whilst claiming 'I'm just satisfying my animal instincts bro' is like a 600lb landwhale claiming it's only her instinct for hunger making her stuff herself with chocolate cakes all day long -- the fast food eater doesn’t derive the satisfaction only when the cake hits and dissolves in their stomach and provides necessary nutrition, they got obese because they are addicted to the process of repetition and overriding the oral drives with stimulation, by looking, smelling and tasting chocolate cake, over and over again. So the pleasure you coomers and landwhales seek is not that of merely satisfying a 'animalistic' instinct for sex and hunger, it goes way beyond that as you keep stimulating the drives trough intense repetition to the point of addiction only to extract that sweet surplus pleasure.
This is not a anti-fap thread. It's a critique of a msm attempt to link NoFap to white supremacism.
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How about I keep it simple, your comparison is completely false because If I masturbate 5 times today, nothing happens, a 600lb land whale will have impeded her ability to walk, to breathe, limited the kinds of clothes she can wear, she will always be tired, she's extremely prone to dying of heart disease, etc, she basically cannot function as a regular human being at all
If me or anyone masturbates 5 times a day, as long as we take a damn multivitamin and keep our electrolytes and hydration up, we'll be completely fine, literally nothing will happen to us, in the same way that if Chad fucks 5 different women the same day it won't make a difference
Its like you don't seem to get my point, THERE ARE NO SIDE EFFECTS
The only possible side effect is erectile dysfunction WHICH IS ONLY A SIDE EFFECT IF YOU HAVE A SEX LIFE (and incels will never have that)
You guys are treating a non-issue as if it is an issue - "you can't get strong erections"
Oh, so i'll need those strong erections for those women I won't be fucking?
I've even made a thread about how stupid these kinds of arguments are:
If You Are Going To Be Indefinitely Incel From This Point Forward (No Future Prospects For Sex) Then There Is No Reason Not To Be A Porn Addict
Seriously think about it There are no side effects to masturbation, there are none, its all placebo "muh energy, confidence and virility" BS, and ironically you only need said confidence and virility if you plan on pursuing women, so nofap boosts traits you don't tend on utilizing JFL (what...
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@B.O.G.A.R.T.
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Lmao, now you're just mixing up causes and effects, I was discussing causes, or underlying motivations of complusive behavior -- by showing you how animal instincts are relatively invariable when compared to humans which are governed by drives that do not solely aim at a biological function. The fact that being a coomer doesn't have the same effects as being a compulsive eater, or compuslive gambler for that matter, is self evident and does not change the fact that I just wrecked your 'we're just like animals bro' reductionist schtick.How about I keep it simple, your comparison is completely false because If I masturbate 5 times today, nothing happens, a 600lb land whale will have impeded her ability to walk, to breathe, limited the kinds of clothes she can wear, she will always be tired, she's extremely prone to dying of heart disease, etc, she basically cannot function as a regular human being at all
If me or anyone masturbates 5 times a day, as long as we take a damn multivitamin and keep our electrolytes and hydration up, we'll be completely fine, literally nothing will happen to us, in the same way that if Chad fucks 5 different women the same day it won't make a difference
Its like you don't seem to get my point, THERE ARE NO SIDE EFFECTS
The only possible side effect is erectile dysfunction WHICH IS ONLY A SIDE EFFECT IF YOU HAVE A SEX LIFE (and incels will never have that)
You guys are treating a non-issue as if it is an issue - "you can't get strong erections"
Oh, so i'll need those strong erections for those women I won't be fucking?
I've even made a thread about how stupid these kinds of arguments are:
If You Are Going To Be Indefinitely Incel From This Point Forward (No Future Prospects For Sex) Then There Is No Reason Not To Be A Porn Addict
Seriously think about it There are no side effects to masturbation, there are none, its all placebo "muh energy, confidence and virility" BS, and ironically you only need said confidence and virility if you plan on pursuing women, so nofap boosts traits you don't tend on utilizing JFL (what...
@B.O.G.A.R.T.
Again, nothing you've said is a reason as to why an incel should avoid porn addiction
If you are never going to have sex in your entire life, there's no reason not to be addicted to porn, just like if you are going to be in a wheel chair your entire life, there's no reason to waste time picking out running shoes lol
You didn't wreck anything, we are animals lol, you can't wreck observable reality, were more self aware but were still animals, just like a calculator, video game, and artificial intelligence are all just code, one being more "self aware" than the other doesn't make it any less what it is at its core
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Let me tell you an anecdote I had, unfortunately I had given up on porn a while back, but I had a relapse. I was watching a interracial porn video (probably white male + black female) and in the comments I saw someone that had "blackcel" in their name commenting cuck + white superiority shit. One time I'll have to make a thread on all these absurd coincidences sometimes I wonder if my world is just a prison of my own making.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was someone on this forum. The commercial porn industry is an evil one that preys on people's minds and especially their insecurities and promotes paraphiliac activity. It definitely puts people on this forum especially at risk for delving head-first into paraphilias.
It's far better to just jerk it to your imagination or maybe 2D stuff.
1. Ridiculous logic, if you had never watched porn and never had sex, WHAT THE FUCK WOULD YOU MASTURBATE TO? (do you guys even think about what you're saying)
If a man is born blind what "visuals" would arouse him?
Are you getting my point?
So by your logic, first one has to expose themselves to what they want to masturbate to, only to then avoid that thing and instead masturbate to whatever low quality degraded rendition their minds can muster of that very thing?
2. If you are still masturbating to depictions of sexual intercourse how are you really doing anything different?
Is your argument seriously that since its less arousing because its your imagination that makes it "healthier", that doesn't make any sense, just don't masturbate at all then, if you are going to do something do it, don't half ass it
The point of where it starts is irrelevant , after you're exposed to it you can indeed visualize it. Almost everyone is exposed to porn before they even think about it (around 12 for me).
Furthermore, you can just jack off to thought of girls in general. I remember when I was in school I did that quite a few times with just imaging girls in their normal school outfits.
You can see for yourself what will be trending on pornhub in 30 years time. Not all people were into those things from the beginning. They were exposed it to it and it was pushed to the front and their minds were corrupted over time.
The point is when you imagine stuff you're directly envisioning you yourself doing sexual acts (or at least I do) not watching someone else do them.
This is why I only like 2D exclusively. Whenever I'd fap to 3D I'd feel like such a pathetic cuck, and I don't think it's emotionally healthy for adult virgins, or at least it isn't for me.
2years? Just how did you go that far my best were only 30+days
Indeed. I also consume 2D stuff.
Do cold showers. Fill up your day with work and Productivity to do and eventually it will be come the default to not fap
I will be entering the army next week so i will be forced to do nofap forcefully
I really could just stick to fapping twice a week
I am not strong minded like you
I failed around 20-30 times before I was able to pull this current streak. You have to take step by step.
I had some nice female interaction, but things like ,them finding futanari elf porn in my phone didn't help
. I was already a retarded coomer in that moment.
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I think the part of your post I underlined has to do with how the refractory period is typically longer for men than for women and how it is impossible for men to have multiple orgasms unlike women.
Yeah, I already know this, why did you quote me?
My point is because they don't have that limitation they can expend even more energy and "resources" of their body masturbating, so where are all the tired women complaining in female nofap forums?
Its a placebo, and only men are shamed about it, there is no energy boost from nofap, you just feel better about yourself because you feel less shame
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I was saying the reason there might be a male nofap and not a female nofap is because for males after masturbating you feel drained and weak because of the longer refractory period for males compared to females and inability to get multiple orgasms, but that doesn't happen to females so they can afford to masturbate more regularly without as many side effects as males may experience.
And imo if you masturbate too regularly as a male you feel lethargic and drowsy after sometime. Not immediately, but if you do it too many times regularly there comes a point where you can't do it more than once a day without feeling so tired and exhausted that you fall asleep.
Yeah well obviously, think about what an orgasm is, its supposed to be done during sex, there is no natural circumstance in which a male would have fucked 3+ different random women a few hours apart in the same day (some Chads can't even make those numbers due to time constraints mostly), so anyone who masturbates that amount of times, is pushing their body past the limits of what it was even expecting to do
Either way nofap makes no sense to me at all
Its like having a practice called "nofast" (no fast food) because "obese people exist", nobody needs to eat 3+ fast food meals a day, just like nobody needs to masturbate 3+ times a day
The existence of other people lacking self control and not enjoying something in moderation, does not justify rejecting that enjoyable thing entirely
If the refractory period made these men so tired, they would not have the energy to masturbate then lol, that's the irony of this reasoning, I get what you're saying, but it makes no sense for nofappers to argue that masturbation drains them of so much energy that they have to stop completely, yet if they did masturbate they'd just keep going all day for hours, why not stop after the first bout of drowsiness and just go to sleep, are they doing "nosleep" too? lol
Its a good thing I only masturbate at night time and I usually just go to bed immediately after
This is also what confuses me about the whole "energy" thing, if I masturbate 2 or 3 times in a row (I've done this sometimes)
I'd simply just sleep a few more hours and wake up feeling just as energetic as if I masturbated once the night before and slept the regular 8 hours
So are nofappers just not getting enough sleep?
Think I'll ask this in a thread
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That makes sense but it isn't something a lot of guys take into account when they are masturbating in their younger years. I think it's partly because masturbating multiple times in a day feels really good the second or third time partly because it completely gets rids of the uncomfortable feeling of having cum that has not been ejaculated in the first round of jacking off.
Taking nofap seriously seems like an autistic trait ngl
Autistic people are known for not being able to do things in moderation and doing things/thinking about things excessively.
The reason some of them don't stop after the first bout of drowsiness is probably because as tiring as it feels afterwards, the temporary sensation they get from ejaculating is too good to pass up and wait another full day and they do it again as soon as they feel up to it within 30 minutes to an hour after the first ejaculation.
The thing is even when doing this a lot of guys feel tired when waking up and require extra sleep. I can't explain why this is but it has definitely gotten more common for me as I become older.
It's the need for sleeping a few more hours that is key there. The thing is a lot of guys overdo masturbating multiple times a day when young because it seemingly has no effect, but once they get into their 20s doing that makes them feel more exhausted and need to make up for even ejaculating once with many hours of sleep, sometimes on the order of 5 to 10 extra hours of sleep. Apparently it might have to do with the fact that the male body is most virile and ready to sire offspring in the teenage years after puberty and how horniness declines with age afterward.
I've heard a lot of older guys don't ejaculate as much and only do it once every week or so at most. It definitely defeats the purpose of getting an onahole or sexdoll for masturbating if you are that age imo.
Nofappers have probably fapped excessively for too long that they require a lot more sleep after fapping just once.
There is a lot of stories in eastern mysticism about fapping being tied to energy levels. I didn't used to believe this in my teens but after experiencing this extreme lack of energy after fapping around my early 20s it makes a lot more sense.
How dare you improving goyim
@TheBasedCel
Let This Be the Last No Nut November
The ‘No Nut November’ movement, a challenge of orgasm denial, has been co-opted by misogynists, and the far-right.www.vice.com
tbh
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You usually make high quality posts but this is not one of them. You're messing up the cause and effects. Porn addiction is an EFFECT of hypergamy and male inceldom, not its CAUSE.
More men are watching porn because sex is much harder to get.
I agree that watching porn is a form of cuckold, so ideally men should only masturbatw without it, but that's wishful thinking in practice.
If pornography is banned, most normie men will just simp women for nudes and just lewd photos, and fap to toilets on social media even more, which will increase hypergamy even more.
Lastly, foids won't get less degenerate if pornography is banned. They'll keep on riding the cock carousel.
More men are watching porn because sex is much harder to get.
I agree that watching porn is a form of cuckold, so ideally men should only masturbatw without it, but that's wishful thinking in practice.
If pornography is banned, most normie men will just simp women for nudes and just lewd photos, and fap to toilets on social media even more, which will increase hypergamy even more.
Lastly, foids won't get less degenerate if pornography is banned. They'll keep on riding the cock carousel.
dood, Is this even up for debate? I'm talking about a sophisticated industry feeding off lonely men, not magic powers of nofap.
good ol' positivist optimism... Nothing quite like 'I'm like an animal bro, just following instinct' than a 600lbs porn addicted coomer incel poster with type 3 diabetes , a uniquely human condition and a observable reality.
The 'cause and effect' post I made in response to the other guy and was in a different context, he claims that it's mere animalistic instinct that makes coomers be porn addicts, I then pointed out to a distinction between instincts and drives and desires, how drives will articulate our desires, and especially how human desires (although triggered by instinct) differ from animalistic instinct, since they can become passionate obsessions and addictions that supersede mere biological function to the point of distorting your daily rhythm.
If you ask me if the rise of coomers is also an effect of hypergamy, then in this context, this is correct -- I already articulate it here:
I like how there is no inbetween for a retard like you, you are a special kind of stupid, you are either pointlessly stringing together big words with no clear point or message, or pointlessly stringing together memes into incoherent sentences as if its an argument
Its as if you are literally incapable of just doing something as simple as making a straightforward argument
At this point I have to assume you are trolling because all of this seems on purpose like you are trying to be a "persona", it can't be that hard to just make an argument that actually has meaning, maybe being a greycel should have been an immediate indicator for me
I never made that claim, please learn to read you moron
You said:
My response to that was:
How the fuck did you interpret that as me arguing that animal instincts is what makes men into porn addicts?
Its obvious to anyone who isn't an idiot what I was simply saying
That the actions that you are trying to paint in a negative light (cooming and consooming) is what all animals do, and you are kidding yourself thinking that you don't do it too and its a "bad thing", its what all biological creatures live for, to be satisfied and entertained, you are denying your very nature
I'll ask again, when are you idiots going to start "no entertainment" so you can pair it up with your "no fap", stop watching tv, movies, etc, stop listening to music, stop "consooming" media and stay bored all day like a retard because a meme told you to
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Porn and cooming is pretty much a drug, making nofap more similar to quitting a drug than "no-entertainment".
Start here: Evolution has not prepared your brain for today's porn
This article is a short synopsis of some key concepts. For the science behind today's porn, please follow all the links and read this page
www.yourbrainonporn.com
1. In the same way that porn keeps you satisfied and makes you less likely to approach women and be outgoing (something often said by nofappers)
Entertainment makes you less likely to go out and interact with people as your brain can process the "people" you see in tv, movies, etc as "faux-communication" (just as your brain interprets masturbation as you having sex) and makes you feel "less starved" for social interaction, which is why there are men who can stay at home all day playing games and watching anime and feel no need to talk to people
So stop with the nonsense, entertainment does the same thing as porn
In your link there is a chart showing that sexual stimulation in the brain goes down over time when its induced by the same woman and goes up a lot when its a new instance of a new woman
Same thing with entertainment, if all you have to do all day is watch nature, play some boring ass game with a stick, you'd socialize more, but because you can just torrent endless seasons of shows (or stream them), watch endless seasons of anime, play countless hours of games, you don't feel as bored as you would in a "natural world"
Like I said in my thread:
That's all you are doing right now, making excuse for one addiction and demonizing the other, you don't NEED (as in lack of it can lead to death) to be entertained just like you don't NEED to orgasm, but lacking both will make you hate your existence and want to die
2. You guys seem to be missing the point, so I'll refer you to my thread:
If You Are Going To Be Indefinitely Incel From This Point Forward (No Future Prospects For Sex) Then There Is No Reason Not To Be A Porn Addict
Seriously think about it There are no side effects to masturbation, there are none, its all placebo "muh energy, confidence and virility" BS, and ironically you only need said confidence and virility if you plan on pursuing women, so nofap boosts traits you don't tend on utilizing JFL (what...
incels.is
DO YOU SEE HOW YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT
The negatives nofap causes are things incels don't need as positives, if you are never going to have a sex life, then you don't need strong erections
lmao, The coomer cried out in pain. Don't tell me you were interpreting this thread as a intrusive attack on your little fapping sessions this whole time? Are you that self-centered, don't I say, narcissistic? Well, at least now I know your ego is still there, defensive of it's jouissance and certainly triggered. But in all seriousness... what flew above your thick crusted cumbrain was the fact that this thread isn't a anti-masturbation health column, I'm taking on something bigger that you pathetic wank. I'm interested in structural phenomena, involving production and mass consumption, hierarchies and hegemonic ideologies. I'm interested in observing the socio-political climate of an a era where porn consumption is surging. There is little epistemological or ontological value in invoking the reductionist comparison "it is what animals do" when what we are really attesting to is the radicality of the distinction between us being observed in the existence of consumption-based mass media productions.
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Leftist cunt, get cancer and die.
I'm starting to wonder if you are in fact a woman larping right now, because you respond like a drama queen, like this is high school or something, also JFL again at how you switch from speaking like an immature child to going on a spiel pointlessly stringing together "big words" as if it means something, like below:
Are you bipolar or something?
Nobody can take you seriously if you keep acting like this, so hopefully your intention isn't to be taken seriously, because you just come off as if you are trolling lol
Lastly I'll say it again you idiot, why are you only applying this "psyop" theory when it comes to sex (porn), why aren't you applying it to entertainment?:
Yes, and entertainment without social interaction, which in a "natural world" is and should be your only source of entertainment, there's no tv, no internet, etc in the natural world just like there is no porn, so ARE YOU GOING TO START "NO ENTERTAINMENT" and go out and SOCIALIZE more?
NO
That's my point, you are just SELECTIVELY APPLYING YOUR LOGIC
You are asserting that sexual satisfaction not attained through the "proper channels" is detrimental to someone because of some "natrualist" standard that men should be:
Rather than being:
But YOU MAKE A PASS FOR ENTERTAINMENT WHEN ITS THE SAME THING
You don't apply the same logic to entertainment, when men should be out and about to be entertained too based on your logic, rather than being glued to their monitors watching tv shows and playing video games
One should do "no entertainment" for the same reason they do "no fap"
Keep coping moron, you are on the same level as those cucks. As for a source, google it.
I did google it, for a while, no source lists the bullshit you say, even oxytocin (the bonding hormone) is released when you masturbate (even when no one is there)
Your claim was that:
Everything I've found indicates that's complete bullshit, the SAME brain chemicals are released no matter what, its just that since you are being satisfied so often you require more and more dopamine to really enjoy yourself in the act, but even that maximum capacity flatlines, it doesn't get endlessly increasingly hard to enjoy an orgasm
Again, I don't think this even applies to someone who just masturbates once a day, its the guys who are doing it 3+ a day are killing their dopamine receptors, but no harm is even done, they can "reset" if they want by staying away for a few months, but if you are an incel there's no reason to stop, literally no reason at all
There is a difference between once a day and multiple times a day everyday. I have developed PIED from masturbating too much. If you are a truecel, you have to stop a couple of times unless you want to render yourself physically unable. It is a trade-off so you can keep masturbating years from now, not because you think it attracts women when you stop, that is just nonsense.
I just made an plea for the nietzscheian sovereign alpha type, dismantling liberal talking points, while you accused me of leftism? The absolute state....of your reading comprehension.
>you are a woman
>you are an idiot
>you are a schizo
High iq comebacks.
btw, binge watching Friends reruns on netflix is a consoomer trait, not to be find in the animal kingdon otherwise, but I'm dedicating this thread to PornHub. And you're taking it... badly.
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Then why spending money on a whore?
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