Blackpill The Porn Industry is a establishment sponsored PSYOP to turn you into a numale SOYBOY

[happiless]

What you're saying makes no sense, most of the men who have accomplished "great things" are sex havers, so how is masturbation stopping you from doing anything, that just sounds like a stupid excuse

Because there's a difference between having sex and watching other men have sex

 

[BodyFat10orRope]

But anti porn is literally a feminist position. Feminists have been raging against porn and sex dolls for years because it takes away their control over mens sexuality.

Most of the nofap arguments are bluepill as fuck "Bro its taking away your energy" is just "bro you just lack confidence" wrapped in a new tradcuck packaging. It's the same dumb sentiment that ignores the fact that looks are the ultimate reason peoples youth gets wasted, not metaphysical energy.

Only rad-fems are against porn, and mostly for different reasons, they see it as abuse.

 

[mental_out]

it was but in the last 10-20 years the jews have given feminists a new directive. pro porn, packaged as 'empowerment'

Not really, feminists have been attacking it a lot recently, same with sexdolls. Removing alternative forms of sexual expression forces you to rely on women for it, which ultimately maximises their control. It would make things like the "sex strike" significantly more effective.

Only rad-fems are against porn, and mostly for different reasons, they see it as abuse.

"Abuse" is the excuse they use, but in reality its because they want to dictate mens sexuality. It's why they want to get rid of free porn and make shit like onlyfans the way to get it.

 

[goydivision]

to be fair, he is one of the actual high quality greycels here, he is only a greycel because he doesn't shitpost/spam

No, that'd be D @dogpill

This guy is just dumb. Masturbation and sex are the same act functionally. Without going in too deep about the spiritual powers of sex, masturbation is just sex minus the emotion. But to your body (not your mind) its the same.

 

[Deleted member 24529]

No fap is 4d chess played by the elited. Yes, degenerates fapping multiple times prr day are in the wrong, but guys doing it twice a week even to some porn may have to do it if they dont have a gf. As someone said, foids and jews alike are afraid that may will be self sufficient this way and wont wageslave for foids to get some toasted meat scrap leftovers. Foids are afraid for obvious reasons while for jews its the end of their socialistic communistic economy systems. Plus, no fap absolutely doesnt give you anything unless you compare it to degenerate 6 time per day fappers

Tldr fuck you op.

 

[goydivision]

Not really, feminists have been attacking it a lot recently, same with sexdolls. Removing alternative forms of sexual expression forces you to rely on women for it, which ultimately maximises their control. It would make things like the "sex strike" significantly more effective.

"Abuse" is the excuse they use, but in reality its because they want to dictate mens sexuality. It's why they want to get rid of free porn and make shit like onlyfans the way to get it.

I mean either way the feminazis are being fucking annoying. One side wants to support prostitutes and porn stars, the other one wants to do away with it entirely. We really need some reasonable middle; porn production is ceased but all existing shit will be left lying around.

 

[BlkPillPres]

For someone who's reportedly "high IQ" you seem to forget that different brain chemicals get released whenever you have sex

1. Give me a source for this please

2. There are women who masturbate a lot (they use sex toys though) why isn't this a problem for them?

Women can have multiple orgasms and masturbate for hours (and many do), where are all these female nofap forums to "reclaim lost energy"

All of these "benefits" you guys claim you get are nothing but placebos, nofap is driven by male shame of not getting an orgasm "the manly way", and all the "benefits" you feel are the result of a placebo induced by "not feeling guilty"

I've never felt any increase in energy when I stopped masturbating for a while BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL SHAME OR GUILT ABOUT IT

You guys are your own worst enemy

Also last time I checked masturbation (not the act itself, but the resulting orgasm) helps boost your immune system, increases your white blood cell count and with men reduces risk of prostate cancer

But nah, starve yourself of a sexual release for "muh invisible energy reserves" which don't exist

Either way if you have a porn addiction like me then nofap/noporn is absolutely necessary

You see it as an addiction because you don't see sexual satisfaction as a NEED

You have to eat food everyday, do you consider it an addiction because you can't go a few hours without feeling hungry?

Your next response: "You can't die from lack of sexual satisfaction"

True, but you'll want to die, and many have killed themselves because they can't get the sexual satisfaction they desire, not all NEEDS result in death due to lack of fulfilling it, people "go mad" without human contact (solitary confinement), so by your logic "mental health" is not a NEED - "Just be crazy bro, only cravings associated with death are needs"

 

[Leblid]

Cope, you still would be.

Cooming is natural, porn isn't. If anything, just stop watching porn

I don't need to cope about something i know i can't change anymore because time travel isn't a think. I know looking the circumstances during my youth the things that i should have done and not.

 

[ionlycopenow]

I don't need to cope about something i know i can't change anymore because time travel isn't a think. I know looking the circumstances during my youth the things that i should have done and not.

yeah, you totally would have been a Slayer. For sure man

 

[Leblid]

yeah, you totally would have been a Slayer. For sure man

Not a slayer, but at least not a virgin. A normie or failed normie.

 

[mental_out]

Not a slayer, but at least not a virgin. A normie or failed normie.

Most normies jerk off, that's clearly not the issue. If you think chad is doing nofap then just lol

 

[Leblid]

Most normies jerk off, that's clearly not the issue. If you think chad is doing nofap then just lol

Normies don't masturbate 4-5 times EVERY day with hentai and porn from every game you play.

Normies have less time to masturbate and watch porn, because they did sports and socialize. Or have parents that won't allow them to go full autism in their rooms.

 

[mental_out]

Normies don't masturbate 4-5 times EVERY day with hentai and porn from every game you play.

That sounds more like a symptom of being incel than a cause tbh, people end up like that because they have nothing better to do. If you'd had normie tier looks you'd have found other things to do with your time naturally.

 

[B.O.G.A.R.T.]

Retard, that's literally what animals do all day every day, you are an animal



Statements like this just sound like coping

What energy or masculinity do you have as an incel?

What are you doing with all your new found energy?



Ironically media like movies, TV, music, etc are known PSYOPS, known forms of indoctrination and manipulation, and like an orgasm you won't die from lack of it

So I'll wait for when one of you idiots to start doing "no entertainment", just be bored for the rest of your fucking life because of a psyop you can choose to not be influenced by

Ironically by saying you will avoid something because its a psyop, you are admitting that you are WEAK MINDED and afraid it will influence you

Do I need to take you through the basics all over again? Man is a failed animal, human consciousness is primordially the awareness of limitation and finitude, this ontological gap emerges with humanity. Unlike other animals, we are caught up in the lure of spatial identification by absorbing the identity as a image which represents a fundamental aspect of the structure of subjectivity . Animals communicate in codes, with humans you get language which is be learned and is cultural, animals have a instinctual mating life, with humans sexuality can become a deadly passion that obsesses you to the point of disturbing the 'natural' daily rythm.

But anti porn is literally a feminist position. Feminists have been raging against porn and sex dolls for years because it takes away their control over mens sexuality.

Most of the nofap arguments are bluepill as fuck "Bro its taking away your energy" is just "bro you just lack confidence" wrapped in a new tradcuck packaging. It's the same dumb sentiment that ignores the fact that looks are the ultimate reason peoples youth gets wasted, not metaphysical energy.

This thread is IS NOT about arguing whether NoFap gives you methaphysical powers JFL, if you're trying to debate whether you become a Chad monk after a month of abstinence from porn this is not the thread for you -- this is about deconstructing the liberal reaction to the NoFap community -- the way liberals react to men who refuse to consume ever more porn is obviously pathological.

 

[Leblid]

That sounds more like a symptom of being incel than a cause tbh, people end up like that because they have nothing better to do. If you'd had normie tier looks you'd have found other things to do with your time naturally.

Getting the easy dopamine from videogames and porn will increase your % chance of being social inept.

But also, i lost all of my school nerd friends in high school (They left), and making new ones was impossible, copes did help to feel better, but they made me forget all my anger and sadness, made me soy.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Do I need to take you through the basics all over again? Man is a failed animal, human consciousness is primordially the awareness of limitation and finitude, this ontological gap emerges with humanity. Unlike other animals, we are caught up in the lure of spatial identification by absorbing the identity as a image which represents a fundamental aspect of the structure of subjectivity . Animals communicate in codes, with humans you get language which is be learned and is cultural, animals have a instinctual mating life, with humans sexuality can become a deadly passion that obsesses you to the point of disturbing the 'natural' daily rythm.

Literally nothing you said has anything to do with why someone shouldn't masturbate lol, you are exhibit A of someone who strings together "big words" in "long sentences" and still manages to not even make a point, you use "big words" for the wrong purpose, its like you aren't even trying to get a point across, you aren't trying to convey any meaning, you are just trying to "sound smart"

How does anything you just said equal - "and that's why you shouldn't masturbate"

I wasted my time reading that long drawn out sentence expecting some kind of argument

Also JFL at "natural daily rhythm", imagine try to hold some kind of naturalist position on the most unnatural species on the planet, how natural is it for us to be communicating via pulses of light sent all around the world through the "internet"?

Our entire existence is unnatural, there's no point in imposing limitations on yourself based on some supposed standard of "natural living"

this is about deconstructing the liberal reaction to the NoFap community -- the way liberals react to men who refuse to consume ever more porn is obviously pathological.

I have seen no such reaction and it seems like you have to seek it out so I'd ask which sites you are visiting, every interaction I've had with normies they are speaking about masturbation like it something normal to do or not to do, nobody is trying to push anyone to do it or tell them that they should

I really don't know where you're getting this

Normies don't masturbate 4-5 times EVERY day with hentai and porn from every game you play

Ok........ then don't do that then

 

[mental_out]

This thread is IS NOT about arguing whether NoFap gives you methaphysical powers JFL, if you're trying to debate whether you become a Chad monk after a month of abstinence from porn this is not the thread for you -- this is about deconstructing the liberal reaction to the NoFap community -- the way liberals react to men who refuse to consume ever more porn is obviously pathological.

You become Chad by having Chad looks, unless nofap can cure bone structure somehow and make people taller then the answer is a solid no.

Only a handful of liberals actually care about nofap, and their views flipflop all the time. One minute they'll defend porn, the next they'll be calling for a sex doll ban. There's no consistency to liberal views these days so trying to divine some sort of master plan from them is a fools errand. The only way to look at it is to reason on what would ultimately benefit women the most, and in this case sexually frustrated men who can be bent to whatever women want through the carrot of sex would suggest that nofap benefits women in the end.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

1. Give me a source for this please

2. There are women who masturbate a lot (they use sex toys though) why isn't this a problem for them?

Women can have multiple orgasms and masturbate for hours (and many do), where are all these female nofap forums to "reclaim lost energy"

All of these "benefits" you guys claim you get are nothing but placebos, nofap is driven by male shame of not getting an orgasm "the manly way", and all the "benefits" you feel are the result of a placebo induced by "not feeling guilty"

I've never felt any increase in energy when I stopped masturbating for a while BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL SHAME OR GUILT ABOUT IT

You guys are your own worst enemy

Also last time I checked masturbation (not the act itself, but the resulting orgasm) helps boost your immune system, increases your white blood cell count and with men reduces risk of prostate cancer

But nah, starve yourself of a sexual release for "muh invisible energy reserves" which don't exist



You see it as an addiction because you don't see sexual satisfaction as a NEED

You have to eat food everyday, do you consider it an addiction because you can't go a few hours without feeling hungry?

Your next response: "You can't die from lack of sexual satisfaction"

True, but you'll want to die, and many have killed themselves because they can't get the sexual satisfaction they desire, not all NEEDS result in death due to lack of fulfilling it, people "go mad" without human contact (solitary confinement), so by your logic "mental health" is not a NEED - "Just be crazy bro, only cravings associated with death are needs"

Nigga you expect me to read all this? Did you use the Psy-ops that says "You can get prostrate cancer if you don't fap!" too?

 

[BlkPillPres]

For someone who's reportedly "high IQ" you seem to forget that different brain chemicals get released whenever you have sex.

LITERALLY THE FIRST LINE:

1. Give me a source for this please

Nigga you expect me to read all this? Did you use the Psy-ops that says "You can get prostrate cancer if you don't fap!" too?

JFL dude you are the biggest fucking retard on the site, why even try to hold a position you don't intend on defending, you don't even believe in anything you say

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

LITERALLY THE FIRST LINE:



JFL dude you are the biggest fucking retard on the site, why even try to hold a position you don't intend on defending, you don't even believe in anything you said

Keep crying for me retard, you're being praised on anti-incel circles, you are the biggest fucktard on here lmfao. If incels in denial praise you, you know you're a cuck faggot.

 

[BlkPillPres]

There's no consistency to liberal views these days so trying to divine some sort of master plan from them is a fools errand

I don't understand how people don't get this, they aren't "masterminds" they are just conflict and chaos incarnate as a group

Feminists - "Gender is a social construct"

Transgenders - "You can be born the wrong gender with respect to your body"

Homosexuals - "Sexual attraction is on a spectrum (Kinsey Scale) and nobody is 100% only attracted to any one sex"

These three factions exist under the liberal umbrella and all of their world views conflict with or complicate each others world views, they can't even decide on the simplest shit like the nature of sexuality

Keep crying for me retard, you're being praised on anti-incel circles, you are the biggest fucktard on here lmfao. If incels in denial praise you, you know you're a cuck faggot.

JFL I get praised period for my writings, and that's because they are well thought out and I'm open minded, so my points I never just "muh woman bad" which is what appeals to low IQ types like yourself, sorry I'm not going to dumb down my posts for those unwilling to read and understand

I'll be waiting for that source for that nonsense claim of yours lol

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Well what else am I supposed to do? Just be frustrated all the time and feel even worse than I already do? Granted some people fap way too much, but I don't see how once a day or less is harmful.

I tried nofap and it made me feel worse. The only thing that's actually helped me has been avoiding 'real' porn, as fapping to it always made me feel awful afterwards.

 

[ionlycopenow]

Not a slayer, but at least not a virgin. A normie or failed normie.

Lol sure thing

 

[Transcended Trucel]

did you really feel anything from it? I tried nofap and I felt worse tbh

you feel worse around 2 month mark and get flatlined but past that point everything slowly becomes more fun. dopamine receptors reset and Vidya becomes enjoyable again

 

[BlkPillPres]

dopamine receptors reset and Vidya becomes enjoyable again

All you did was trade one vice for another, so what was the point

 

[B.O.G.A.R.T.]

Literally nothing you said has anything to do with why someone shouldn't masturbate lol, you are exhibit A of someone who strings together "big words" in "long sentences" and still manages to not even make a point, you use "big words" for the wrong purpose, its like you aren't even trying to get a point across, you aren't trying to convey any meaning, you are just trying to "sound smart"

How does anything you just said equal - "and that's why you shouldn't masturbate"

I wasted my time reading that long drawn out sentence expecting some kind of argument

Also JFL at "natural daily rhythm", imagine try to hold some kind of naturalist position on the most unnatural species on the planet, how natural is it for us to be communicating via pulses of light sent all around the world through the "internet"?

Our entire existence is unnatural, there's no point in imposing limitations on yourself based on some supposed standard of "natural living"



I have seen no such reaction and it seems like you have to seek it out so I'd ask which sites you are visiting, every interaction I've had with normies they are speaking about masturbation like it something normal to do or not to do, nobody is trying to push anyone to do it or tell them that they should

I really don't know where you're getting this



Ok........ then don't do that then

I'll keep it simple: The same thing that made the human animal develop language and computers is the thing that fundamentally alienated the human animal (to an extent) from the animal world of codes and instincts. Desire is what happens when 'animalistic' instincts get alienated. The model for this is are addictions with their endless cycle of withdrawal, craving and consumption -- Being a compulsory mastrubator porn addict whilst claiming 'I'm just satisfying my animal instincts bro' is like a 600lb landwhale claiming it's only her instinct for hunger making her stuff herself with chocolate cakes all day long -- the fast food eater doesn’t derive the satisfaction only when the cake hits and dissolves in their stomach and provides necessary nutrition, they got obese because they are addicted to the process of repetition and overriding the oral drives with stimulation, by looking, smelling and tasting chocolate cake, over and over again. So the pleasure you coomers and landwhales seek is not that of merely satisfying a 'animalistic' instinct for sex and hunger, it goes way beyond that as you keep stimulating the drives trough intense repetition to the point of addiction only to extract that sweet surplus pleasure.

Well what else am I supposed to do? Just be frustrated all the time and feel even worse than I already do? Granted some people fap way too much, but I don't see how once a day or less is harmful.

I tried nofap and it made me feel worse. The only thing that's actually helped me has been avoiding 'real' porn, as fapping to it always made me feel awful afterwards.

This is not a anti-fap thread. It's a critique of a msm attempt to link NoFap to white supremacism.

 

[Uglychincel]

 

[BlkPillPres]

I'll keep it simple: Being a compulsory mastrubator porn addict whilst claiming 'I'm just satisfying my animal instincts bro' is like a 600lb landwhale claiming it's only her instinct for hunger making her stuff herself with chocolate cakes all day long

How about I keep it simple, your comparison is completely false because If I masturbate 5 times today, nothing happens, a 600lb land whale will have impeded her ability to walk, to breathe, limited the kinds of clothes she can wear, she will always be tired, she's extremely prone to dying of heart disease, etc, she basically cannot function as a regular human being at all

If me or anyone masturbates 5 times a day, as long as we take a damn multivitamin and keep our electrolytes and hydration up, we'll be completely fine, literally nothing will happen to us, in the same way that if Chad fucks 5 different women the same day it won't make a difference

Its like you don't seem to get my point, THERE ARE NO SIDE EFFECTS

The only possible side effect is erectile dysfunction WHICH IS ONLY A SIDE EFFECT IF YOU HAVE A SEX LIFE (and incels will never have that)

You guys are treating a non-issue as if it is an issue - "you can't get strong erections"

Oh, so i'll need those strong erections for those women I won't be fucking?

I've even made a thread about how stupid these kinds of arguments are:

If You Are Going To Be Indefinitely Incel From This Point Forward (No Future Prospects For Sex) Then There Is No Reason Not To Be A Porn Addict | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

Seriously think about it There are no side effects to masturbation, there are none, its all placebo "muh energy, confidence and virility" BS, and ironically you only need said confidence and virility if you plan on pursuing women, so nofap boosts traits you don't tend on utilizing JFL (what...

incels.is

@B.O.G.A.R.T.

Seriously think about it

There are no side effects to masturbation, there are none, its all placebo "muh energy, confidence and virility" BS, and ironically you only need said confidence and virility if you plan on pursuing women, so nofap boosts traits you don't tend on utilizing JFL (what kind of retard logic is that, that's like a runner who does more upper body training than lower)

Taking the lack of tangible negatives into account here's a question, why not be "addicted" to porn?

If you think about it entertainment is an "addiction", its something we do and we crave but we DON'T NEED, we could be bored 24/7 and not die of it, yet we pay money to have access to it in a constant supply, more than we ever pay for porn + masturbation (which is just your internet and electricity bill)

Yet nobody is ever talking about "quitting entertainment", where's that "nofun" movement? JFL

"I've been watching too many movies, tv shows, youtube videos, etc and listening to too much music, podcasts, etc. My brain is "overstimulated" with entertainment and that makes day to day regular interactions and activities feel less than, so I need to cut back on entertainment. Also being entertained takes up free time and keeps me from being forced to pursue other things I could be doing rather than being entertained"

Nobody ever says this shit, but because sex and sexual pleasure is something taboo, we have these weird standards applied to it, where its like you treated as if you are "cheating the system" by gaining access to sexual pleasure and not "paying the toll", its really all about shame, it has nothing to do with any improvement magically caused by not ejaculating, ironically if you aren't going to be having sex, masturbation reduces your risk of testicular cancer, as its your only release and use of your testes (remember this thread is directed towards men who plan to or know they won't get laid ever again or at all)

 

[B.O.G.A.R.T.]

How about I keep it simple, your comparison is completely false because If I masturbate 5 times today, nothing happens, a 600lb land whale will have impeded her ability to walk, to breathe, limited the kinds of clothes she can wear, she will always be tired, she's extremely prone to dying of heart disease, etc, she basically cannot function as a regular human being at all

If me or anyone masturbates 5 times a day, as long as we take a damn multivitamin and keep our electrolytes and hydration up, we'll be completely fine, literally nothing will happen to us, in the same way that if Chad fucks 5 different women the same day it won't make a difference

Its like you don't seem to get my point, THERE ARE NO SIDE EFFECTS

The only possible side effect is erectile dysfunction WHICH IS ONLY A SIDE EFFECT IF YOU HAVE A SEX LIFE (and incels will never have that)

You guys are treating a non-issue as if it is an issue - "you can't get strong erections"

Oh, so i'll need those strong erections for those women I won't be fucking?

I've even made a thread about how stupid these kinds of arguments are:

If You Are Going To Be Indefinitely Incel From This Point Forward (No Future Prospects For Sex) Then There Is No Reason Not To Be A Porn Addict | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

Seriously think about it There are no side effects to masturbation, there are none, its all placebo "muh energy, confidence and virility" BS, and ironically you only need said confidence and virility if you plan on pursuing women, so nofap boosts traits you don't tend on utilizing JFL (what...

incels.is

@B.O.G.A.R.T.

Lmao, now you're just mixing up causes and effects, I was discussing causes, or underlying motivations of complusive behavior -- by showing you how animal instincts are relatively invariable when compared to humans which are governed by drives that do not solely aim at a biological function. The fact that being a coomer doesn't have the same effects as being a compulsive eater, or compuslive gambler for that matter, is self evident and does not change the fact that I just wrecked your 'we're just like animals bro' reductionist schtick.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Lmao, now you're just mixing up causes and effects, I was discussing causes, or underlying motivations of complusive behavior -- by showing you how animal instincts are relatively invariable when compared to humans which are governed by drives that do not solely aim at a biological function

Again, nothing you've said is a reason as to why an incel should avoid porn addiction

If you are never going to have sex in your entire life, there's no reason not to be addicted to porn, just like if you are going to be in a wheel chair your entire life, there's no reason to waste time picking out running shoes lol

does not change the fact that I just wrecked your 'we're just like animals bro' reductionist schtick.

You didn't wreck anything, we are animals lol, you can't wreck observable reality, were more self aware but were still animals, just like a calculator, video game, and artificial intelligence are all just code, one being more "self aware" than the other doesn't make it any less what it is at its core

 

[GoffSystemQB]

Again, nothing you've said is a reason as to why an incel should avoid porn addiction

If you are never going to have sex in your entire life, there's no reason not to be addicted to porn, just like if you are going to be in a wheel chair your entire life, there's no reason to waste time picking out running shoes lol

Let me tell you an anecdote I had, unfortunately I had given up on porn a while back, but I had a relapse. I was watching a interracial porn video (probably white male + black female) and in the comments I saw someone that had "blackcel" in their name commenting cuck + white superiority shit. One time I'll have to make a thread on all these absurd coincidences sometimes I wonder if my world is just a prison of my own making.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was someone on this forum. The commercial porn industry is an evil one that preys on people's minds and especially their insecurities and promotes paraphiliac activity. It definitely puts people on this forum especially at risk for delving head-first into paraphilias.

It's far better to just jerk it to your imagination or maybe 2D stuff.

 

[BlkPillPres]

It's far better to just jerk it to your imagination or maybe 2D stuff.

1. Ridiculous logic, if you had never watched porn and never had sex, WHAT THE FUCK WOULD YOU MASTURBATE TO? (do you guys even think about what you're saying)

If a man is born blind what "visuals" would arouse him?

Are you getting my point?

So by your logic, first one has to expose themselves to what they want to masturbate to, only to then avoid that thing and instead masturbate to whatever low quality degraded rendition their minds can muster of that very thing?

2. If you are still masturbating to depictions of sexual intercourse how are you really doing anything different?

Is your argument seriously that since its less arousing because its your imagination that makes it "healthier", that doesn't make any sense, just don't masturbate at all then, if you are going to do something do it, don't half ass it

 

[GoffSystemQB]

1. Ridiculous logic, if you had never watched porn and never had sex, WHAT THE FUCK WOULD YOU MASTURBATE TO? (do you guys even think about what you're saying)

If a man is born blind what "visuals" would arouse him?

Are you getting my point?

So by your logic, first one has to expose themselves to what they want to masturbate to, only to then avoid that thing and instead masturbate to whatever low quality degraded rendition their minds can muster of that very thing?

2. If you are still masturbating to depictions of sexual intercourse how are you really doing anything different?

Is your argument seriously that since its less arousing because its your imagination that makes it "healthier", that doesn't make any sense, just don't masturbate at all then, if you are going to do something do it, don't half ass it

The point of where it starts is irrelevant , after you're exposed to it you can indeed visualize it. Almost everyone is exposed to porn before they even think about it (around 12 for me).

Furthermore, you can just jack off to thought of girls in general. I remember when I was in school I did that quite a few times with just imaging girls in their normal school outfits.

You can see for yourself what will be trending on pornhub in 30 years time. Not all people were into those things from the beginning. They were exposed it to it and it was pushed to the front and their minds were corrupted over time.

The point is when you imagine stuff you're directly envisioning you yourself doing sexual acts (or at least I do) not watching someone else do them.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

The point is when you imagine stuff you're directly envisioning you yourself doing sexual acts (or at least I do) not watching someone else do them.

This is why I only like 2D exclusively. Whenever I'd fap to 3D I'd feel like such a pathetic cuck, and I don't think it's emotionally healthy for adult virgins, or at least it isn't for me.

 

[waste matter]

based and NoFap pilled. it's why I have 2 years streak. They want to deprive men of their energy, their masculinity and turn them into soy Cucks and it is working unfortunately

2years? Just how did you go that far my best were only 30+days

 

[GoffSystemQB]

This is why I only like 2D exclusively. Whenever I'd fap to 3D I'd feel like such a pathetic cuck, and I don't think it's emotionally healthy for adult virgins, or at least it isn't for me.

Indeed. I also consume 2D stuff.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

2years? Just how did you go that far my best were only 30+days

Do cold showers. Fill up your day with work and Productivity to do and eventually it will be come the default to not fap

 

[waste matter]

Do cold showers. Fill up your day with work and Productivity to do and eventually it will be come the default to not fap

I will be entering the army next week so i will be forced to do nofap forcefully
I really could just stick to fapping twice a week
I am not strong minded like you

 

[Transcended Trucel]

I will be entering the army next week so i will be forced to do nofap forcefully
I really could just stick to fapping twice a week
I am not strong minded like you

I failed around 20-30 times before I was able to pull this current streak. You have to take step by step.

 

[Azaylias]

And the whores too. They're also guilty

I said the actors, you donut

 

[Leblid]

Lol sure thing

I had some nice female interaction, but things like ,them finding futanari elf porn in my phone didn't help . I was already a retarded coomer in that moment.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I said the actors, you donut

 

[Azaylias]

 

[your personality]

1. Give me a source for this please

2. There are women who masturbate a lot (they use sex toys though) why isn't this a problem for them?

Women can have multiple orgasms and masturbate for hours (and many do), where are all these female nofap forums to "reclaim lost energy"

All of these "benefits" you guys claim you get are nothing but placebos, nofap is driven by male shame of not getting an orgasm "the manly way", and all the "benefits" you feel are the result of a placebo induced by "not feeling guilty"

I've never felt any increase in energy when I stopped masturbating for a while BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL SHAME OR GUILT ABOUT IT

You guys are your own worst enemy

Also last time I checked masturbation (not the act itself, but the resulting orgasm) helps boost your immune system, increases your white blood cell count and with men reduces risk of prostate cancer

But nah, starve yourself of a sexual release for "muh invisible energy reserves" which don't exist

I think the part of your post I underlined has to do with how the refractory period is typically longer for men than for women and how it is impossible for men to have multiple orgasms unlike women.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I think the part of your post I underlined has to do with how the refractory period is typically longer for men than for women and how it is impossible for men to have multiple orgasms unlike women.

Yeah, I already know this, why did you quote me?

My point is because they don't have that limitation they can expend even more energy and "resources" of their body masturbating, so where are all the tired women complaining in female nofap forums?

Its a placebo, and only men are shamed about it, there is no energy boost from nofap, you just feel better about yourself because you feel less shame

 

[your personality]

Yeah, I already know this, why did you quote me?

My point is because they don't have that limitation they can expend even more energy and "resources" of their body masturbating, so where are all the tired women complaining in female nofap forums?

Its a placebo, and only men are shamed about it, there is no energy boost from nofap, you just feel better about yourself because you feel less shame

I was saying the reason there might be a male nofap and not a female nofap is because for males after masturbating you feel drained and weak because of the longer refractory period for males compared to females and inability to get multiple orgasms, but that doesn't happen to females so they can afford to masturbate more regularly without as many side effects as males may experience.

And imo if you masturbate too regularly as a male you feel lethargic and drowsy after sometime. Not immediately, but if you do it too many times regularly there comes a point where you can't do it more than once a day without feeling so tired and exhausted that you fall asleep.

 

[BlkPillPres]

And imo if you masturbate too regularly as a male you feel lethargic and drowsy after sometime

Yeah well obviously, think about what an orgasm is, its supposed to be done during sex, there is no natural circumstance in which a male would have fucked 3+ different random women a few hours apart in the same day (some Chads can't even make those numbers due to time constraints mostly), so anyone who masturbates that amount of times, is pushing their body past the limits of what it was even expecting to do

Either way nofap makes no sense to me at all

Its like having a practice called "nofast" (no fast food) because "obese people exist", nobody needs to eat 3+ fast food meals a day, just like nobody needs to masturbate 3+ times a day

The existence of other people lacking self control and not enjoying something in moderation, does not justify rejecting that enjoyable thing entirely

I was saying the reason there might be a male nofap and not a female nofap is because for males after masturbating you feel drained and weak because of the longer refractory period for males compared to females and inability to get multiple orgasms

If the refractory period made these men so tired, they would not have the energy to masturbate then lol, that's the irony of this reasoning, I get what you're saying, but it makes no sense for nofappers to argue that masturbation drains them of so much energy that they have to stop completely, yet if they did masturbate they'd just keep going all day for hours, why not stop after the first bout of drowsiness and just go to sleep, are they doing "nosleep" too? lol

Its a good thing I only masturbate at night time and I usually just go to bed immediately after

This is also what confuses me about the whole "energy" thing, if I masturbate 2 or 3 times in a row (I've done this sometimes)

I'd simply just sleep a few more hours and wake up feeling just as energetic as if I masturbated once the night before and slept the regular 8 hours

So are nofappers just not getting enough sleep?

Think I'll ask this in a thread

 

[your personality]

Yeah well obviously, think about what an orgasm is, its supposed to be done during sex, there is no natural circumstance in which a male would have fucked 3+ different random women a few hours apart in the same day (some Chads can't even make those numbers due to time constraints mostly), so anyone who masturbates that amount of times, is pushing their body past the limits of what it was even expecting to do

That makes sense but it isn't something a lot of guys take into account when they are masturbating in their younger years. I think it's partly because masturbating multiple times in a day feels really good the second or third time partly because it completely gets rids of the uncomfortable feeling of having cum that has not been ejaculated in the first round of jacking off.

The existence of other people lacking self control and not enjoying something in moderation, does not justify rejecting that enjoyable thing entirely

Taking nofap seriously seems like an autistic trait ngl
Autistic people are known for not being able to do things in moderation and doing things/thinking about things excessively.

If the refractory period made these men so tired, they would not have the energy to masturbate then lol, that's the irony of this reasoning, I get what you're saying, but it makes no sense for nofappers to argue that masturbation drains them of so much energy that they have to stop completely, yet if they did masturbate they'd just keep going all day for hours, why not stop after the first bout of drowsiness and just go to sleep, are they doing "nosleep" too? lol

The reason some of them don't stop after the first bout of drowsiness is probably because as tiring as it feels afterwards, the temporary sensation they get from ejaculating is too good to pass up and wait another full day and they do it again as soon as they feel up to it within 30 minutes to an hour after the first ejaculation.

Its a good thing I only masturbate at night time and I usually just go to bed immediately after

The thing is even when doing this a lot of guys feel tired when waking up and require extra sleep. I can't explain why this is but it has definitely gotten more common for me as I become older.

This is also what confuses me about the whole "energy" thing, if I masturbate 2 or 3 times in a row (I've done this sometimes)

I'd simply just sleep a few more hours and wake up feeling just as energetic as if I masturbated once the night before and slept the regular 8 hours

It's the need for sleeping a few more hours that is key there. The thing is a lot of guys overdo masturbating multiple times a day when young because it seemingly has no effect, but once they get into their 20s doing that makes them feel more exhausted and need to make up for even ejaculating once with many hours of sleep, sometimes on the order of 5 to 10 extra hours of sleep. Apparently it might have to do with the fact that the male body is most virile and ready to sire offspring in the teenage years after puberty and how horniness declines with age afterward.

I've heard a lot of older guys don't ejaculate as much and only do it once every week or so at most. It definitely defeats the purpose of getting an onahole or sexdoll for masturbating if you are that age imo.

So are nofappers just not getting enough sleep?

Think I'll ask this in a thread

Nofappers have probably fapped excessively for too long that they require a lot more sleep after fapping just once.
There is a lot of stories in eastern mysticism about fapping being tied to energy levels. I didn't used to believe this in my teens but after experiencing this extreme lack of energy after fapping around my early 20s it makes a lot more sense.

 

[Uglymuggly]

How dare you improving goyim

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@TheBasedCel

I'm unable to fulfill my primitive natural desires being having sex so I must fap

tbh

 

[SUH]

You usually make high quality posts but this is not one of them. You're messing up the cause and effects. Porn addiction is an EFFECT of hypergamy and male inceldom, not its CAUSE.
More men are watching porn because sex is much harder to get.

I agree that watching porn is a form of cuckold, so ideally men should only masturbatw without it, but that's wishful thinking in practice.

If pornography is banned, most normie men will just simp women for nudes and just lewd photos, and fap to toilets on social media even more, which will increase hypergamy even more.

Lastly, foids won't get less degenerate if pornography is banned. They'll keep on riding the cock carousel.