Serious The patriarchy isn’t a thing.

[BrettyBoy]

Like the topic title says, the patriarchy isn’t a thing because the term patriarchy implies men are in charge of society which is far beyond the truth and here is why:

Many men are in betabux relationships.

Without counting the betabux type of relationships, women are in charge of which local men do and don’t get to have a girlfriend.

Women are the ones in charge of which local men do and don’t get sexual pleasure.

By society logic, you can be misandrist but you can’t be misogyny by society logic.

Women are worshipped.

Many simps exist.

Women have the power to crime rape and get a man sent to prison even if the rape didn’t happen.


So there you have it. The supposed patriarchy doesn’t exist and the fact many men still post on this forum is enough proof of it, well, I mean, some men still post here even after they become locally desired but at the same time many men are posting as a result of being locally undesired due to feminism.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

According to them it's patriarchy backfiring on you

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/comments/m4hg9i/just_found_out_i_cant_complain_anymore_ironic/gqv6asv/?context=3

 

[Deleted member 33557]

Holes speak about patriarchy because there are lots of moneymaxxed guys and others percieve them as successful. Men are more intelligent on average, richer on average and more determined. The fact that men do something isn't a proof of "patriarchy existance" - they are in the place where they are due to things they did. What would a hole be proud of? Inheritting money after her husband? Having a child? That's why they scream about equality, because they do and mean nothing

 

[BrettyBoy]

Holes speak about patriarchy because there are lots of moneymaxxed guys and others percieve them as successful. Men are more intelligent on average, richer on average and more determined. The fact that men do something isn't a proof of "patriarchy existance" - they are in the place where they are due to things they did. What would a hole be proud of? Inheritting money after her husband? Having a child? That's why they scream about equality, because they do and mean nothing

They just want to play the victim card and get everyone to see them as ‘oppressed’ despite being privileged.

 

[grondilu]

Holes speak about patriarchy because there are lots of moneymaxxed guys and others percieve them as successful.

it's called apex fallacy FYI

Apex fallacy

An apex fallacy (also semantic apex fallacy) occurs when someone evaluates a group based on the performance of best group members, not a representative sample of the group members (e.g., evaluating how well women are doing by looking only at national leaders). Conversely, the nadir fallacy...

rationalwiki.org

 

[Deleted member 27204]

it's called apex fallacy FYI

Apex fallacy

An apex fallacy (also semantic apex fallacy) occurs when someone evaluates a group based on the performance of best group members, not a representative sample of the group members (e.g., evaluating how well women are doing by looking only at national leaders). Conversely, the nadir fallacy...

rationalwiki.org

Fuck RationalWiki.

This statement is true: The existence of powerful groups of men does not prove that the average man is more powerful than the average woman.

Unfortunately, this position is a strawman against feminism. Feminists often point to systematic sexism (eg, the gender wage gap), rather than merely saying "hey look, the wealthiest/most-powerful people are men". Thus, they don't fall prey to the apex fallacy — because they aren't just looking at the apex, but rather the rest of the pyramid, too. Ultimately, this abuse of the apex fallacy denies the relative privilege of males over females.

This view appears to be widely held by MRAs[4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13] and by one Dr. Helen Smith,[4][14] friend of Paul Elam. In fact, the term "apex fallacy" is so popular among the manosphere that is almost singularly used by MRAs or their critics. (With a few exceptions.[15])

Frontman Fallacy[edit]​

In the 1990s, New Zealand MRA Peter Zohrab created the Frontman Fallacy, defined as:[16][17][18]

“”the mistaken belief that people (men, specifically) who are in positions of authority in democratic systems use their power mainly to benefit the categories of people (the category of “men”, in particular) that they belong to themselves.

Again, "frontman fallacy" appears to only be used on MRA websites. Zohrab himself has written that Marc Lepine, school shooter of 14 women, was "not only not sexist, as the media stated – he was actually fighting sexism" and was "protesting against various issues which are aspects of Feminist sexism".[18] Perhaps as a result, MRAs rarely cite Zohrab as the intellectual forefather of one of their favorite talking points.

Wikipedia[edit]​

The idea was laughed off Wikipedia, the encyclopedia where anything is "notable" if you try hard enough.[18][19] MRAs were butthurt that Wikipedia did not recognize the two (!) reputable sources they could find; immediately, they cried censorship.[18]

 

[Deleted member 27204]

urban dictionary then ?

Urban Dictionary: Apex Fallacy

The assumption that because very few members of a group are powerful, therefore the rest of them must necessarily share that power too.

www.urbandictionary.com

As a stand alone source for that term it's okay. But you know the bias against "neckbeards" prevalent on that site too.
At the very least though unlike the RationalWiki article the definition doesn't editorialize about MRA wrong or MRA bad but simply lays out the concept of apex fallacy as it applies to how men are seen.

 

[Deleted member 29115]

I know what you mean. To forge a bond is the only reason to exist.

So the arguments about the patriarchy came rough to me, but I won’t deny there is large amounts of oppression.

Some people are genetic exemptions, I don’t think arguments of incel apply. See LGBTQ

You have people coming from slavery and sexual exploitation.

The last thing they want to hear about is some lonely first world problem.

We must suffer because the world was shit. We can only hope to make the world a better place for others

 

[Deleted member 27161]

They use the patriarchy bullshit to play victim and act like they're oppressed
Even though Foids are the most privileged in soyciety

 

[Thouxanchowder]

they jus play the victim and want ppl to feel bad for them dont give into their shit

 

[Mainländer]

It used to be, but it's long dead in the west. It's a ghost the left and feminists pretend is still alive so that they can have a scapegoat for the shit they themselves cause.

 

[Deleted member 33464]

You could make an argument that the patriarchy existed a hundred years ago, but it's gone now. Women can get jobs and aren't confined to the home anymore. It is socially acceptable now for them to go childless and unmarried and they have been liberated sexually. All the "theory" about feminism is from the 60s at the latest and social changes have made pretty much all of it obsolete. The overarching ethos in Western society now is that women are our equals, the concept of patriarchy is outdated.

 

[BITG]

You could make an argument that the patriarchy existed a hundred years ago, but it's gone now. Women can get jobs and aren't confined to the home anymore. It is socially acceptable now for them to go childless and unmarried and they have been liberated sexually. All the "theory" about feminism is from the 60s at the latest and social changes have made pretty much all of it obsolete. The overarching ethos in Western society now is that women are our equals, the concept of patriarchy is outdated.

Patriarchy never fucking existed dude. It’s a fucking myth feminists got the entire west to believe in. Patriarchy assumes men are in tyrannical power which gives men better lives over women, WHICH HAS NEVER EXISTED. Men (generally speaking) have ALWAYS done EVERYTHING they could to protect and provide for their women and children. It was ALWAYS to their women and children’s benefit. Men have always loved women, again generally speaking. Of course anyone can nitpick a tyrannical king from history, but the reality is that we love women and always have, and what do we get in return? They spit in our faces, disrespect us, and turn their backs on us, and now want all non chads dead.

 

[Deleted member 29033]

Patriarchy. Society. Logic.