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Theory The 'Patriarchy' is a Theodicy

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I would like to preface this by stating this post primarily refers to the mainstream usage of the term 'patriarchy', which is commonly invoked as a catch-all term with the purpose of villainizing men, painting them as inherently privileged, and absolving women of responsibility. This post is quite long-winded, and originally, I was planning to condense all the ideas and topics into a single, large section. However, I have opted against that, since it would have made it overly lengthy and discursive. The post is separated into two sections: the first, primary section — in which I present the central ideas — and the second, in which I offer additional commentary, citations, and interesting things I have come across. The second section is meant to act as supplementary work and is quite lengthy, as I went somewhat overboard.


For the past few months, I have been studying epistemological examination, and one notion that I wanted to delve into is the purported "patriarchy" — the ever-present system that is constantly thrown around to pin the blame on men, and avoid accountability on the part of women—you will see examples of that often, such as 'Who set that system up?' [1]. But the truth is, if patriarchy is everywhere, nowhere, historic, present, abstract, embodied, structural, semantic, and spiritual—then what you call patriarchy is no longer a system. It’s a theodicy. This post will likely be water to many of you, but I still felt like writing it, especially because it's a slightly more in-depth examination of this topic, specifically how the concept of "patriarchy" functions, and how it's used by the masses—not as a social theory, but as a theodicy.

To begin, in theology, a theodicy is a justification for why evil exists in a world supposedly governed by a benevolent God. It exists to preserve belief, not to explain reality—it's often illogical and requires mental gymnastics. And that’s exactly how the modern feminist idea of patriarchy functions.

The "patriarchy" is invoked as this invisible, omnipresent, male-dominated power structure that supposedly explains every "hardship" women face—which are typically made-up, exaggerated, and a result of a deliberate misrepresentation of facts and reality. But when men face disproportionate suffering? Somehow, that too is chalked up to “patriarchy”—as if men built a system to oppress themselves. This, to me, is quite frankly such a hilarious concept, and it goes to show how far they are willing to strive in an attempt to avoid accountability and pin all the blame on men. Just blame every single societal ailment on a mysterious "patriarchy" — I suppose that is much easier than addressing the detrimental problems that plague our society, most notably affecting men in particular.

Originally, patriarchy referred to systems where men held overt, legal power over women—think ancient tribes or literal male property ownership—and such systems didn't emerge with the intention of specifically oppressing anybody; it was simply how humans developed, and the system that functioned well. It was a system that also made sense from an evolutionary perspective, and from a general perspective that considers the innate advantages that women possess due to them being the selective sex, so even if we do concede a patriarchy existed, it certainly wasn't the way feminists like to portray it, and women held many advantages even within it, since human nature is inherently gynocentric. From my observations, I also came to the conclusion a form of presentism is occurring here—a projection of present ideas, beliefs, and values upon the past. Presentism essentially describes the phenomenon of fallacious application of modern lens, and a misrepresentation of the past, which inevitably leads to flawed interpretations of past systems and values. Feminist presentism assumes that modern "egalitarian" values are timeless truths, and therefore all deviation from them in the past was necessarily unjust. But historical cultures had different value systems, and their structures can only be understood relative to the constraints, threats, and technologies of the time—but I digress. The point is, today, patriarchy is a slippery term used to describe anything feminists dislike. A woman is catcalled? Patriarchy. A woman is a CEO? Tokenism—still patriarchy. A man is homeless? Patriarchy made him toxic. It’s tautological.

Now that we got the definitions and the premise out of the way—I want to present the concept of epistemological falsification, which is, as introduced by Karl Popper, the principle that a theory can be considered scientific and epistemically sound only if it is testable and potentially falsifiable through empirical observation. This means that a scientific theory must be able to be proven wrong by evidence, not just confirmed. It's a core concept in the philosophy of science, particularly in distinguishing science from non-science. In the case of the patriarchy, at least as purported by the majority of the populace—it is unfalsifiable.

Try to present any counter-evidence, and you'll get absurd mental gymnastics:

  • Male Genital Mutilation is legal and normalized; female genital mutilation is outlawed globally and condemned. — "Still patriarchy; men normalized their own pain to serve toxic masculinity." [2]
  • Men commit suicide at 3–4x the rate of women. — "That’s because men don’t express their emotions, which is caused by... you guessed it, patriarchy." [3, 4]
  • Men make up the vast majority of the homeless. — Ignored. [5]
  • Men dominate the most dangerous and underpaid jobs. — "Because they don’t let women in!" [6]
  • Men get longer sentences for the same crimes, and are less likely to win custody battles. — "Well, women are better caregivers" (funny how the patriarchy is selective in empowering women only when it benefits them). [7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13]
  • Men are more likely to be victims of violence, but get less support. — Silence. [14, 15, 16, 17]
  • Asymmetrical rape laws exclude "forced to penetrate" cases. If a woman forces a man into sex, she often walks away free. — Must have been the patriarchy! [18, 19, 20, 21]
  • Sexual market disparity? Women control it entirely post-sexual revolution. Hypergamy is rampant. Women chase the top percentage of men, leaving millions completely excluded and at a severe disadvantage. — "Men are entitled!"
  • Women drive 80% of consumer spending through their purchasing power and influence. — "That's just because men made them care about shopping!" [22]

At this point, what would falsify the theory? Nothing. That’s the point.

The problem with the modern feminist conception of “patriarchy” is that it has devolved into a theory that absorbs counter-evidence rather than being challenged by it. Anything that is contradictory to the ideas it purports, simply transforms into evidence for it, which is illogical and preposterous. There is no imaginable state of the world that falsifies the theory. And according to Popper, that means it ceases to be science—it becomes pseudoscience.

I would also add that Thomas Kuhn, in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, introduced the idea of paradigms, which are dominant worldviews that define how scientists interpret data. Within a paradigm, anomalies can build up over time, but the system resists change until a paradigm shift occurs.

If we apply Kuhn’s framework here, feminism operates within a patriarchy-as-paradigm framework. Any data about gender must be filtered through it. Even when mounting anomalies appear—e.g., male suicide, sentencing disparities, educational decline in boys—the paradigm remains intact. These aren’t signs the theory is wrong; they’re interpreted as evidence that the patriarchy is just deeper, more insidious, or more internalized than we thought.

Kuhn argued that revolutions occur when the cost of ignoring anomalies exceeds the cost of changing the paradigm. But with patriarchy theory, the opposite happens: the more anomalies appear, the more elaborate the explanations become.

Imre Lakatos refined Kuhn’s ideas by describing research programs, which are theories with a “hard core” that is protected by an adjustable “protective belt” of auxiliary hypotheses.

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In a progressive program, new data leads to predictions and discoveries. In a degenerating program, data is explained away through ad hoc modifications, just to preserve the core belief.

Patriarchy theory is clearly in the degenerating phase:


When women dominate education? “Still patriarchy—schools teach girls to please authority.”

When women have more reproductive power? “It’s still patriarchy—men fear female sexuality.”


If men are structurally privileged, then they must generally benefit more than they suffer from that privilege. Yet no matter what the data shows, the hard core assumption that men created and benefit from a system that oppresses women—remains untouched. And to me, that does not look like growth; rather, it's theological preservationism masquerading as social science.

Before I move on, I'd like to analyze this from opposing viewpoints, as some may argue that I am engaging in scientism—which is, in and of itself, quite rigid, as it's a framework that argues science and the scientific method are the best or only way to render truth about the world and reality. I see it as an old trope—when one's ideological framework can't meet basic evidentiary standards, accuse the critic of scientism. But the truth is, if a theory makes causal claims about society—about outcomes, distributions, structures—it is pretending to be descriptive. And once you claim to describe, you are making empirical claims. You don’t get to assert causality and then escape falsifiability. I don't necessarily believe a system must be material—but must it be coherent? Yes. If you’re calling “patriarchy” a system, and that system produces observable outcomes, then it is subject to the same scrutiny as any other causal explanation. Furthermore, if multiple frameworks claim to explain modern gender structures, we must evaluate which one has the fewest assumptions, the broadest scope, and the greatest predictive value. 'Patriarchy' increasingly requires ad hoc explanations to survive anomalies, whereas gynocentrism or evolutionary reproductive theory, offer a more parsimonious and falsifiable account.

Lastly, I would like to explain these ideas in more detail and analyze common "patriarchal" ideas—and why they fall apart under scrutiny. The truth is, there is no such thing as a patriarchy in the way it is typically portrayed. The so-called patriarchy is better understood as a manifestation of biological differences between men and women. Furthermore, as previously said, the system is better described through a gynocentric lens—one that emerges from human nature, and is amplified by social, cultural, and technological factors.

Let me explain with some examples. Feminists often criticize the objectification of women, yet men are objectified as well. It may be true that women are objectified more frequently in media and entertainment—but why is that? The answer is simple: men tend to enjoy looking at women more than women enjoy looking at men. Generally speaking, men are more visually attracted to women, which is evident in disparities in physical attractiveness ratings between genders [23]. That’s part of the reason why more men consume pornography—because they are more sexually attracted to women and often experience greater unmet sexual desire, since their access to women is typically limited unless they meet the cartoonishly high standards imposed on them. This dynamic is best explained by supply and demand. I would also add that women still consume a considerable amount of porn, especially through different forms such as erotica, which is not exempt from objectification of men and is arguably worse; they are also the primary buyers of sex toys, which are the most direct form of objectification. Moreover, other forms of objectification—such as being reduced to utility—affect men significantly more.

Now consider the question of why there aren’t more women in STEM fields. This, too, likely has biological roots. The truth is, in highly "egalitarian" and feminist countries like Sweden, where people are free to choose their educational paths, the gender gap in STEM fields is even wider than in less progressive nations. This phenomenon is known as the "gender-equality paradox" — a phenomenon that can be explained by the idea that when people are more free to choose, they follow their interests, which may be influenced by innate preferences. Needless to say, gender differences in general and specific types of intelligence are likely another contributing factor. This suggests that the differences are more biological than cultural.

Another frequently asked question is why there are fewer women in politics. A large-scale study found that women, on average, are less interested in politics than men. Interestingly, the gender gap in political interest was wider in developed, modern societies than in developing ones. This demonstrates that fewer women pursue political careers simply because they are less inclined to engage in political activity, and not because of systemic exclusion.


How the 'Patriarchy' Comes Into Play in the Context of Incels — Analysis​

To illustrate the aforementioned concepts clearly and structurally, I present an infographic I came across online—one that directly pertains to the matters at hand, particularly within the context of incels. It refers to the patriarchy as a catch-all—exactly as I said—and attempts to argue much of the suffering we endure, and the views we hold, are a result of it—which is nonsensical.

Twitter thread Patriarchy incelsoriginal


It's quite absurd and laughable, as it attempts to frame our "views" of women as ones shaped by the so-called patriarchy—a notion which is demonstrably false—since our views stem from scientific observation of human nature, and the countless bad experiences we have endured in this gynocentric society. The list of problems it presents is also ridiculous, as no rational explanation could tie those to a mysterious patriarchy, and if inquired, they would likely resort to the same tautological explanations to preserve their flawed belief, in order to absolve women of blame, and attribute it to men. Furthermore, this infographic is susceptible to the very same unfalsifiability I have previously discussed, for it attributes all ailments to a patriarchy without offering any reasonable explanation.

Now, I will structurally dismantle the ideas conveyed in this image:

1. "Incels see these as problems caused by women" — this is a blatant misrepresentation of the views we hold; the majority of us do not attribute the entirety of the blame to women—despite their responsibility for a predominant number of problems. In truth, we recognize the multifactorial nature of such problems, which emerge due to a variety of reasons, such as the inherently gynocentric nature of humans, technology, globalism, modern decadence, simps, and more. Moreover, when we do attribute blame to women—and rightfully so—we do so based on observations of their actions, as well as their direct responsibility and complicity in our suffering. If women are hypergamous, privileged, and they dismiss male suffering as irrelevant—blame will inevitably be placed upon them, and that blame would be rational, not misplaced.

2. "Pressure to be hypersexual" — this is biological reality, not an ideology imposed by men. Male sexual drive is higher on average, which is related to evolutionary factors. Moreover, this pressure is actually reinforced by women who ridicule low-status men, shame virgins, and selectively reward hypermasculine behavior in dating markets. If anything, the “pressure to be hypersexual” is part of a female-curated sexual economy, not a male-imposed one.

3. "Loneliness and isolation – not asking for help" — men didn’t sit down and decree, “Let’s suffer quietly forever.” This is a product of natural selection and social role stratification, not a conspiratorial system created to oppress women. Furthermore, all one must do is observe the behavior women exhibit when a man shows vulnerability; it typically ends with mockery, humiliation, and cruel indifference.

4. "Body image insecurities" — If they genuinely think men oppress themselves with unrealistic body standards, they are misidentifying the source of influence. Female hypergamy and mate selection are the cause, and they're not driven by the mythical "patriarchy."

5. "Lack of mental health support and resources" — who is in charge of much of the modern health and education bureaucracy? Who do politicians pander to? Women, the demographic that votes more, consumes more, and dominates sectors like psychology and education.

If we lived in a society truly run by men for male benefit, wouldn't these services be better funded and targeted toward us? Instead, men are demonized, neglected, and expected to "man up." To call a society shaped around female priorities a patriarchy is ludicrous. This is a clear case of gynocentrism.

Moving on to the bottom part:

1. "Seeing encounters with women as transactional" — this is a consequence of modern dating markets, not patriarchy. Men are not crazy to notice that effort doesn’t guarantee reciprocation, and women benefit from immense sexual choice. When you reduce men to utility, don’t act surprised when some begin to expect outcomes from that utility.

2. "Victimhood – 'I was a nice guy, hot girls are just bitches'" — true, but the part about "hot girls" is a strawman. This is a legitimate reaction to a system where men are treated as disposable unless they meet ludicrously high standards, and denied of love and pleasure because of immutable physical traits.

3. "Normalizing violence against women" — in reality, however, incels are one of the least violent groups on earth. The men most likely to normalize violence against women, and also act upon it—are the very men women flock to.

It's also worth mentioning that ironically, violence against men, whether in prisons, war, or relationships, is routinely ignored by these people; it's significantly more normalized and is often minimized. That only serves to strengthen my point—that society is gynocentric, not patriarchal. This perfectly exemplifies the paradigm entrenchment which these people engage in; they filter the data selectively in an attempt to fortify their flawed perception, and to maintain the hard core assumptions of their 'research program.'

4. "Think they’re entitled to sex just because they’re men" — another dishonest generalization. Most men don’t feel entitled to sex; they feel despair at total exclusion. There’s a difference. Furthermore, the vast number of men who attempt self-improvement disproves this notion entirely, for self-improvement is conceptually antithetical to the notion of inherent entitlement.

To conclude, this infographic demonstrates precisely the epistemological issues that I have described; it misrepresents our views, and proceeds to pin all of our problems onto a mystical force called the 'patriarchy.' In truth, however, none of these problems necessitate the existence of that system, and can be explained more parsimoniously through gynocentrism and female privilege.


The Patriarchy is a Religious Dogma​

Much like how the religious explain natural disasters with “God’s mysterious plan,” feminists explain male suffering with “patriarchy hurting men too.” It’s circular, emotionally manipulative, and immune to reason. And its primary purpose is to assign the blame to men, and to free women from the burden of accountability, because if everything is the fault of the 'patriarchy' — everything is men's fault. Such logic is obviously nonsensical, even within its own framework, for it also assumes women are merely passive observers incapable of any ill—which is false. As a matter of fact, it's often women who advocate for, and instill harmful behavior in their male children—the very same behavior that contributes to our suffering, and should be labeled as 'gynocentric', not 'patriarchal'. Some may try to reconcile with the fact that women themselves support the very same structures and behaviors that are described as 'patriarchal' by attributing the blame to the patriarchy, which is tautological reasoning, again—no accountability. The whole thing is just absurd.

This idea that “patriarchy hurts men too” is the favorite feminist failsafe—as if that preserves the coherence of the theory. But this is equivalent to saying “God gives you cancer to test your faith.” It’s not a real explanation. It’s a weak reframing that allows them to claim concern while still preserving the central narrative that men are at fault.

If a theory both privileges and victimizes men—without a clear mechanism or consistent pattern—then what exactly is its predictive value?

The truth is: men hurting doesn’t falsify patriarchy in feminist eyes—in truly absurd fashion, it confirms it. That’s how you know it’s a theodicy. Every data point loops back to the same metaphysical blame.

Sometimes they do attempt to offer falsifiability to it, commonly by referring to political representation and positions of power, but that is, in a sense, an apex fallacy—as it ignores the masses of men who are treated as second class citizens. It also ignores the reality that women hold significant influence over politicians—who often cater specifically to women and their needs, as well as the fact that this disparity could also have biological and evolutionary roots. Furthermore, one should not forget that this is merely shining light on a single power structure, which is solely one among many—social, cultural, sexual, etc.

The modern feminist concept of patriarchy no longer functions as a social theory; it functions as a doctrine of collective guilt. All men are born tainted, whether they benefit from the so-called system or not. It is, in effect, a secular version of original sin: men are inherently suspect, and their very presence in the world is tied to oppression—even if they are homeless, mentally ill, or driven to suicide.

The man who works 12-hour shifts in a freezing meat-packing plant to support a family he will lose in a custody battle? Patriarchy. The boy who fails in a feminized education system designed to reward social compliance over curiosity? Patriarchy. The lonely man who will die alone, unloved, discarded by a hyper-selective sexual marketplace? Patriarchy. The woman who capitalizes on men's loneliness and exploits them through platforms such as OnlyFans? Patriarchy.

How convenient. The same invisible force oppresses women by giving them "too little", and men by giving them too much—of pain, expectation, and burden. It is a moral fail-safe, where no matter who suffers, men are to blame.

But anyone with a functioning brain knows that when a belief system becomes so elastic that it explains everything, it ceases to explain anything.

The truth is, if men actually ran society in a self-serving way—would we allow:


Ourselves to be mutilated at birth?


Ourselves to die in wars we’re drafted into while women are protected?


Ourselves to rot in prison for longer sentences?


Ourselves to be discarded in the dating market based on looks and height?


No. A system that consistently sacrifices men is not a patriarchy. It’s a gynocentric social order under the guise of a purported patriarchy.

In short, the patriarchy—at least in the way it's commonly presented—isn’t a testable, rational framework. It’s an unfalsifiable, theodical belief system designed to preserve a worldview where women are always victims and men are always to blame, regardless of reality.


And like all bad religions, it punishes heretics who point this out.


References and Appendices:
[1] While working on this post, I came across a comment section that echoes the ideas I have expressed perfectly—women and intellectually challenged animals pointing the finger of blame at the 'patriarchy' and at men. The behavior is exactly as I described: the blame is pinned on men, and women are freed of the burden of accountability. All the while, feminist ideology and so-called 'anti-patriarchal' values and actions are nothing more than gynocentrism in disguise. The poster himself fails to understand that the system in question isn’t even what he thinks it is, but the comments are the relevant part anyway.


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So, men are benefiting from MGM being legal? From being the majority of the homeless? The majority of suicides? Being disadvantaged in courts? Facing sexual market disparities? Draft laws? Workplace deaths? Custody settlements? And women being responsible for 85% of consumer spending? That totally sounds like a system that benefits men.

The system does not benefit men in any apparent way, and if probed, she would either resort to tautological reasoning or apex fallacies. In fact, I attempted to confront her—and that’s exactly what she did. She also outright denied statistics that contradicted her dogma.

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It's hilarious how the existence of a patriarchy is automatically assumed yet never questioned. Discarding that flawed assumption, one must understand that women are not merely passive observers incapable of inflicting deleterious harm; in fact, they are dangerous creatures who possess the capability to corrupt society and drive it toward decadence and degradation. This is especially true given their group cohesion and hive-mind behavioral tendencies [24]. The truth is, women are a major force in shaping the current rotten state of affairs, and they hold significant responsibility—which, unfortunately, they will not suffer for. Also, as I have previously stated: this person is utilizing the term patriarchy in a malicious manner with the goal of absolving women of responsibility, for women can't possibly be in the wrong; it must be the patriarchy.

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This is truly the peak of women's logic here.

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You heard her, guys! These are the actions we must take to dismantle the so-called 'patriarchy.' Seriously, this is downright laughable, and I find it hard to believe someone wrote this list seriously. All of the things listed here are merely ways to reinforce an already gynocentric society, and it would be foolish to engage in any of these cucked activities. Furthermore, the last part is not just naïve—it’s utterly delusional.

Let me be perfectly clear: no amount of pandering or self-sacrifice will make women “advocate for men” in any meaningful, systemic way. The idea that women will return favors simply because men support their ridiculous causes is a fantasy rooted in wishful thinking and delusion. This reply is exactly what I previously described: advocacy for further gynocentrism and female supremacy under the guise of fighting "patriarchal values" — and unfortunately, many men fall victim to this nonsense.
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[2] To me, male genital mutilation, also known as circumcision, is truly one of the most detestable, abhorrent, and barbaric practices which persists in modern society. It is nothing short of appalling that a society that preaches morality, civility, and so-called empathy allows such a morally repugnant violation of human rights to occur. How anyone can justify the purposeless mutilation of a body part that evolved for a reason and serves multiple biological functions is beyond me. Studies have been conducted regarding the downsides of circumcision, most notably, reduced penile sensitivity—caused by the removal of special nerve endings and the keratinization of the mucous membrane. Keratinization refers to the natural reaction of the sensitive inner skin and glans of the penis to exposure to air, and friction with underwear—which is caused by the lack of protection that the foreskin is meant to offer.
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Intact men enjoy four times more penile sensitivity than circumcised men, according to the "Fine-touch Pressure Thresholds in the Adult Penis" article published today in the British Journal of Urology International. The study was conducted to map fine-touch pressure thresholds of the adult penis in circumcised and noncircumcised males to compare the two populations.

Researchers measured fine-touch sensitivity of the penis at 17 specific sites on the intact (non-circumcised) penis and the remaining 9 sites plus two scar sites on the circumcised penis. The results surprised the research team, according to Morris Sorrells, MD, lead researcher, who said, "The most sensitive part of the penis is the preputial opening. The results confirmed that the frenulum and ridged band of the inner foreskin are highly erogenous structures that are routinely removed by circumcision, leaving the penis with one-fourth the fine-touch sensitivity it originally possessed." Five sites on the penis-all regularly removed by circumcision-are more sensitive than the most sensitive site remaining on the circumcised penis. Researcher pediatrician and statistician Robert Van Howe said, "Oddly, the most sensitive site on the circumcised penis is the circumcision scar itself."

Previous studies documented that circumcised penises are shorter; now researchers have compared and found them lacking in sensitivity, too. From their findings, researchers of this study conclude that circumcision ablates the most sensitive parts of the penis. These findings come several decades after Masters & Johnson said there is no sensitivity difference in a circumcised and a non-circumcised penis. Now their questionable findings have been disproved and the results of this study provide additional evidence about the importance of preserving the protective, sensitive foreskin.
[3] WISQARS Leading Causes of Death
[4] Freeman, A., Mergl, R., Kohls, E. et al. A cross-national study on gender differences in suicide intent. BMC Psychiatry 17, 234 (2017). https://doi.org/10.1186/s12888-017-1398-8
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I cited the study about suicidal intent, as it demonstrates a pattern of behavior which many of us were likely aware of: that women's intent is generally not as serious as men's, and is typically a result of attention seeking behavior. Furthermore, these findings poke holes in the feminist notion that women attempt suicide at higher rates, since it is based on the erroneous assertion that intent is equivalent in all cases, and it doesn't take into account the effectiveness of the chosen method.
Suicide intent data from 5212 participants was included in the analysis. A significant association between suicide intent and gender was found, where ‘Serious Suicide Attempts’ (SSA) were rated significantly more frequently in males than females (p < .001). There was a statistically significant gender difference in intent and age groups (p < .001) and between countries (p < .001). Furthermore, within the most utilised method, intentional drug overdose, ‘Serious Suicide Attempt’ (SSA) was rated significantly more often for males than females (p < .005).
[5] Annual Homeless Assessment Report (AHAR)
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In addition to the disparity in the number of homeless people—men are unfortunately more likely to be unsheltered, which further exemplifies the apparent female advantage in the modern gynocentric landscape:

Unsheltered

[6] Worker Injuries and Illnesses by Sex
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[7] 2023 Demographic Differences in Federal Sentencing
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When examining all sentences imposed, females received sentences 29.2 percent shorter than males. Females of all races were 39.6 percent more likely to receive a probation sentence than males. When examining only sentences of incarceration, females received lengths of incarceration 11.3 percent shorter than males.
[8] Gender Differences in the Sentencing of Felony Offenders
Of all cases, 98.1 percent were resolved through pleas. Females were more likely to have outcomes determined by pleas to reduced charges than were males. Fewer women (17 percent) than men (28 percent) were incarcerated, but sentence dispositions varied greatly across the eight major offense categories. While the percentage of males incarcerated for each category always exceeded that of women, women were more likely to be sentenced to jail for robbery and assault than were men; men were more likely than women to be incarcerated for property crime. This suggests that women may be sanctioned more harshly when their behavior violates sex-role stereotypes. Finally, comparisons of sentence lengths indicates that prison terms of males and females did not differ, the terms of probation for males were significantly longer than for females, and males also received significantly longer jail terms. 5 tables and 40 references.
[9] 5/6 Male UK Prisoners would be free if they were Women
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This came to my attention after @GeckoBus made his fantastic thread about the topic, and is particularly relevant to the issues I have discussed. If you have yet to read it, I'd highly advise you do so, as it breaks down many issues that plague the modern societal landscape, while also being pertinent to further matters I will go over:
[10] Embry, R., & Lyons, P. M. (2012). Sex‑based sentencing: Sentencing discrepancies between male and female sex offenders. Feminist Criminology, 7(2), 146–162. https://doi.org/10.1177/1557085111430214
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The current research examines the utility of the evil woman hypothesis by examining sentencing discrepancies between male and female sex offenders. National Corrections Reporting Program data are used to identify sex offenders for the years 1994 to 2004 and the sentences they received for specific sex offenses. Statistical analyses reveal a significant difference in sentence length between men and women, but not in the expected direction. The evil woman hypothesis would assume women are sentenced more harshly, but data show men receive longer sentences for sex offenses than women. Support is provided for the chivalry hypothesis to explain immediate sentencing disparity.
[11] Nearly 80% of custodial parents are mothers, while fathers make up only about 20%
[12] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/womens-justice-board-begins-plans-to-send-fewer-women-to-prison
[13] Sánchez, Pina, and Louise Harris. Sentencing Gender? Investigating the Presence of Gender Disparities in Crown Court Sentences. University of Leeds, 2020. https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/154388/
We explore the presence of gender sentencing disparities using large samples of assault, burglary and drugs offences from the Crown Court Sentencing Survey. We find significantly harsher sentences imposed on male offenders even after controlling for most case characteristics, including mitigating factors such as 'caring responsibilities'. Specifically, the odds ratios of receiving a custodial sentence for offences of assault, burglary and drugs committed by a man as opposed to a woman are 2.84, 1.89 and 2.72. To put it in context, with the exception of offences 'with intent to commit serious harm', the gender effect was stronger than any other 'harm and culpability' factor for offences of assault. These disparities do not seem to stem primarily from differential interpretations of offender dangerousness. It is possible that they might be due to lower rates of reoffending amongst female offenders, or to the higher punitive effect of custodial sentences on women. What seems clear is that sentencing is not gender neutral. If gender-specific sentencing guidelines are to be developed in the future it would be important that the noted disparities are taken in consideration.
[14] Homicide Statistics by Gender
According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, males experienced higher victimization rates than females for all types of violent crime except rape or other sexual assault.
[15] While looking into this topic, I came across this ludicrous feminist drivel, which is a hallmark of what I discussed in this post:

Why do we say domestic abuse is gendered?

Whilst both men and women may experience incidents of inter-personal violence and abuse, there are important differences between male violence against women and female violence against men, namely the amount, severity and impact. Women experience higher rates of repeated victimisation and are much more likely to be seriously hurt (Walby and Towers, 2018; Walby and Allen, 2004) or killed than male victims of domestic abuse (ONS, 2023a).

Further to that, women are more likely to experience higher levels of fear and are more likely to be subjected to coercive and controlling behaviours (Dobash and Dobash, 2004; Hester, 2013; Myhill, 2015). It is particularly important to understand that men do not experience domestic abuse as part of embedded, structural inequalities against their sex. For women, however, domestic abuse is deeply rooted in inequalities between women and men. Other forms of inequality (such as racism, ageism, discrimination against disabled women and women who self-define as LGBT+) also intersect with sexual inequality to affect a woman’s experiences of domestic abuse.

Domestic abuse perpetrated by men against women is rooted in women’s unequal status in society and is part of the wider social problem of male violence against women and girls. We found in our research with the University of Bristol that sexism and misogyny set the scene for male abusive partners’ coercive and controlling behaviours. Sexism and misogyny serve to excuse abusive behaviour by men in intimate relationships with women and put up barriers to female survivors being believed and supported to leave abusive men (Women’s Aid et al, 2021). Read the blog about this research here.
First off, the claim that women experience more repeated and severe abuse is based on police reports and survey data, which are flawed due to underreporting bias—especially when it comes to male victims. Multiple studies show that male victims often underreport abuse due to societal stigma, disbelief, or fear of being mocked. When men do report, they are less likely to be taken seriously or supported. It is only a natural outcome that a disparity in the statistics would emerge, since we live in a highly gynocentric landscape.

And what I really wanted to mention is the nonsensical claim that male violence against women is different because it is “rooted in structural inequality”. This is not an empirical argument; it is a circular ideological assertion. It does not withstand epistemological scrutiny, particularly under Popperian falsifiability. They define the structure as male-dominated, then attribute all male misbehavior to it, and then use that behavior as evidence for the structure. It's the very same tautological reasoning I have previously discussed.

You cannot empirically test whether coercion arises from "patriarchal structure" unless you first demonstrate that such a structure exists, in material terms, and show causality. But as I already argued, feminists do not demonstrate causal mechanisms between societal power structures and individual acts of abuse. They instead assert it axiomatically, which is pseudoscientific by definition.

Furthermore, the claim that “men do not experience domestic abuse as part of embedded, structural inequalities against their sex” is demonstrably false if we look at institutional responses:

  • Shelters for male victims are nearly nonexistent, while many exist for women.
  • Police often arrest the man even when he is the victim, due to “primary aggressor” policies.
  • Legal bias in courts overwhelmingly favors women in abuse allegations and custody.
  • Societal perception ridicules male victims or denies their experiences outright.

If this isn’t embedded inequality, what is?

This system not only ignores male suffering; rather, it actively invalidates and delegitimizes it. In other words: the system is structurally anti-male. That directly contradicts the claim of a “patriarchal” system that advantages men at women's expense.

And just as previously outlined: the argument assumes female innocence and male guilt—akin to the original sin doctrine.
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[16] Statistics on Male Victims of Domestic Abuse
[17] Women Match or Exceed Men in Relationship Aggression
[18] https://www.justice.gov/archives/ovw/blog/updated-definition-rape
“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
I’m sure many of you are well aware of the asymmetry in the legal definition of rape, which excludes made-to-penetrate cases. This leads to a statistical disparity that is frequently used to demonize men while minimizing their experiences. Putting aside my personal views on the subject, it’s clear there is an ongoing injustice and a lack of fairness in determining who is recognized as a victim. Those of you who read the Wiki are likely aware of the CDC’s findings on this issue, which show that under fair definitions, men and women both rape and are raped at similar rates—at least within the past 12 months. The lifetime figures reveal a disparity, though that may be due to generational changes such as the millennial shift and other contributing factors. Furthermore, lifetime prevalence statistics have been challenged because of their susceptibility to inaccuracies:


I must emphasize just how malicious the use of the skewed statistics of rape truly is—utilized to vilify men, and to paint them as animalistic simians that are the primary perpetrators of rape, when ironically, this misrepresentation of facts only serves to prove the gynocentrism within our society, and the immense privilege women hold. It is quite telling that very few studies on made-to-penetrate rape exist, as that would significantly undermine the narrative they cling to.
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[19] Stemple, L., Flores, A., & Meyer, I. H. (2017). Sexual victimization perpetrated by women: Federal data reveal surprising prevalence. Aggression and Violent Behavior, 34, 302–311.
[20] Caricati, L., Baldini, S., & Bonetti, C. (2023). Female‑to‑Male Sexual Assault: The Role of the Perpetrator’s Attractiveness and Attributed Emotional States on Victim Blame. Violence and Victims, 38(3), 396–413.
[21] https://gwern.net/doc/sociology/2021-dimarco.pdf
[22] Statistics on the Purchasing Power of Women Women and Global Spending

Women and U.S. Spending

  • Women make up more than half of the U.S. population, and control or influence 85% of consumer spending
    (Source: Forbes 2019)
  • The purchasing power of women in the U.S. ranges from $5 trillion to $15 trillion annually. (Source: Nielsen Consumer, 2013)
  • Women control more than 60% of all personal wealth in the U.S. (Source: Federal Reserve, MassMutual Financial Group, BusinessWeek, Gallup)
  • Women purchase over 50% of traditional male products, including automobiles, home improvement products, and consumer electronics. (Source: Andrea Learned, “Don’t Think Pink”)
  • Approximately 40% of U.S. working women now out-earn their husbands. (Source: U.S Bureau of Labor Statistics)
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So women basically dictate the economy, control the narrative, hold the purse strings, and still somehow men are "privileged"? This is what a gynocentric society looks like. And yet they still play the victim card like they’re oppressed. How do you control most of the spending and wealth in a country and still act like society is stacked against you?
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[23] Costa, M., & Maestripieri, D. (2023). Physical and psychosocial correlates of facial attractiveness. Evolutionary Behavioral Sciences, 19(2), 165–176. https://doi.org/10.1037/ebs0000331
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[24] The in-group bias of women is another topic I would like to bring forth, as it is a crucial aspect of the subject of gynocentrism, and it grants us the opportunity to better understand female nature, as well as the inherent advantages they possess, and the biases inherent to their psychology. To put it simply, the minds of women are governed by an in-group bias that is 4.5 times stronger than that of men, which is truly disturbing—albeit not surprising. These findings demonstrate a perspicuous reality: women are more likely to favor each other and show increased preference for the well-being of other women—as opposed to men, who do not exhibit a similar bias. In fact, men are more likely to favor women, extol them, and idealize them. This dynamic can clearly be seen in the intrasexual behavior of both sexes, where men are in a perpetual state of competing with each other vehemently, while women exhibit such behavior noticeably less.
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To quote @GeckoBus, who put it very nicely:
1. women are the only group in society that has innate in-group preference for their own gender
2. this means women naturally form a "herd" or "hive"
3. women trust women; men trust women; men fight men; ->society

That means, society is only women. Men fighting to get female validation is an attempt to get BACK into society.
ALL men are viewed as and out-group by both men and women. Every man is a stranger effectively.
The only way to get away from this, is by being accepted by women. If one woman accepts you, all do and thus, you are part of society (which is only women).
That's why people always act suspicious around single males, but not around men with women.
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I must admit—this post is far longer than I originally intended for it to be (even after trimming it significantly), and I highly doubt many of you will read it, but for what it's worth, I enjoyed writing about this topic.

Requested tag: @Stupid Clown
 
Jannies Must Read rn. Do it. It was amazing. I think?
 
This is so high effort that I'm sort of afraid to read it
 
Nigga ur a kike I thought you loved getting circumraped :forcedsmile:

Jokes aside, I'll read it later, seems botb-worthy
 
High IQ thread. Belongs in Must Read Content.
 
Feminism is the cult they often accuse us of being, as shown in this thread feminists blame everything bad that has every happened to anybody in the modern world as result of the "Patriarchy". Instead of worshipping a god they worship an idea and they do so because that idea gives them an excuse for all their failings. But isn't that the blackpill? No! because the blackpill only explains our failings when it comes to relationships/sex not our entire lives, the blackpill is also often "battle tested" by it's users Many incels including myself have spoken about our genuine attempts to get into relationships but still failing to do so, There is not a single feminist who is well versed feminist theory that has for example may a genuine attempt to climb the corporate leader to become a CEO.
 
bro I'm gonna read it.

I am a chronic coomer and my prefrontal cortex has been destroyed by coom, but I'm gonna read it because it's interesting, already read the first paragraphs
 
I would like to preface this by stating this post primarily refers to the mainstream usage of the term 'patriarchy', which is commonly invoked as a catch-all term with the purpose of villainizing men, painting them as inherently privileged, and absolving women of responsibility. This post is quite long-winded, and originally, I was planning to condense all the ideas and topics into a single, large section. However, I have opted against that, since it would have made it overly lengthy and discursive. The post is separated into two sections: the first, primary section — in which I present the central ideas — and the second, in which I offer additional commentary, citations, and interesting things I have come across. The second section is meant to act as supplementary work and is quite lengthy, as I went somewhat overboard.


For the past few months, I have been studying epistemological examination, and one notion that I wanted to delve into is the purported "patriarchy" — the ever-present system that is constantly thrown around to pin the blame on men, and avoid accountability on the part of women—you will see examples of that often, such as 'Who set that system up?' [1]. But the truth is, if patriarchy is everywhere, nowhere, historic, present, abstract, embodied, structural, semantic, and spiritual—then what you call patriarchy is no longer a system. It’s a theodicy. This post will likely be water to many of you, but I still felt like writing it, especially because it's a slightly more in-depth examination of this topic, specifically how the concept of "patriarchy" functions, and how it's used by the masses—not as a social theory, but as a theodicy.

To begin, in theology, a theodicy is a justification for why evil exists in a world supposedly governed by a benevolent God. It exists to preserve belief, not to explain reality—it's often illogical and requires mental gymnastics. And that’s exactly how the modern feminist idea of patriarchy functions.

The "patriarchy" is invoked as this invisible, omnipresent, male-dominated power structure that supposedly explains every "hardship" women face—which are typically made-up, exaggerated, and a result of a deliberate misrepresentation of facts and reality. But when men face disproportionate suffering? Somehow, that too is chalked up to “patriarchy”—as if men built a system to oppress themselves. This, to me, is quite frankly such a hilarious concept, and it goes to show how far they are willing to strive in an attempt to avoid accountability and pin all the blame on men. Just blame every single societal ailment on a mysterious "patriarchy" — I suppose that is much easier than addressing the detrimental problems that plague our society, most notably affecting men in particular.

Originally, patriarchy referred to systems where men held overt, legal power over women—think ancient tribes or literal male property ownership—and such systems didn't emerge with the intention of specifically oppressing anybody; it was simply how humans developed, and the system that functioned well. It was a system that also made sense from an evolutionary perspective, and from a general perspective that considers the innate advantages that women possess due to them being the selective sex, so even if we do concede a patriarchy existed, it certainly wasn't the way feminists like to portray it, and women held many advantages even within it, since human nature is inherently gynocentric. From my observations, I also came to the conclusion a form of presentism is occurring here—a projection of present ideas, beliefs, and values upon the past. Presentism essentially describes the phenomenon of fallacious application of modern lens, and a misrepresentation of the past, which inevitably leads to flawed interpretations of past systems and values. Feminist presentism assumes that modern "egalitarian" values are timeless truths, and therefore all deviation from them in the past was necessarily unjust. But historical cultures had different value systems, and their structures can only be understood relative to the constraints, threats, and technologies of the time—but I digress. The point is, today, patriarchy is a slippery term used to describe anything feminists dislike. A woman is catcalled? Patriarchy. A woman is a CEO? Tokenism—still patriarchy. A man is homeless? Patriarchy made him toxic. It’s tautological.

Now that we got the definitions and the premise out of the way—I want to present the concept of epistemological falsification, which is, as introduced by Karl Popper, the principle that a theory can be considered scientific and epistemically sound only if it is testable and potentially falsifiable through empirical observation. This means that a scientific theory must be able to be proven wrong by evidence, not just confirmed. It's a core concept in the philosophy of science, particularly in distinguishing science from non-science. In the case of the patriarchy, at least as purported by the majority of the populace—it is unfalsifiable.

Try to present any counter-evidence, and you'll get absurd mental gymnastics:

  • Male Genital Mutilation is legal and normalized; female genital mutilation is outlawed globally and condemned. — "Still patriarchy; men normalized their own pain to serve toxic masculinity." [2]
  • Men commit suicide at 3–4x the rate of women. — "That’s because men don’t express their emotions, which is caused by... you guessed it, patriarchy." [3, 4]
  • Men make up the vast majority of the homeless. — Ignored. [5]
  • Men dominate the most dangerous and underpaid jobs. — "Because they don’t let women in!" [6]
  • Men get longer sentences for the same crimes, and are less likely to win custody battles. — "Well, women are better caregivers" (funny how the patriarchy is selective in empowering women only when it benefits them). [7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13]
  • Men are more likely to be victims of violence, but get less support. — Silence. [14, 15, 16, 17]
  • Asymmetrical rape laws exclude "forced to penetrate" cases. If a woman forces a man into sex, she often walks away free. — Must have been the patriarchy! [18, 19, 20, 21]
  • Sexual market disparity? Women control it entirely post-sexual revolution. Hypergamy is rampant. Women chase the top percentage of men, leaving millions completely excluded and at a severe disadvantage. — "Men are entitled!"
  • Women drive 80% of consumer spending through their purchasing power and influence. — "That's just because men made them care about shopping!" [22]

At this point, what would falsify the theory? Nothing. That’s the point.

The problem with the modern feminist conception of “patriarchy” is that it has devolved into a theory that absorbs counter-evidence rather than being challenged by it. Anything that is contradictory to the ideas it purports, simply transforms into evidence for it, which is illogical and preposterous. There is no imaginable state of the world that falsifies the theory. And according to Popper, that means it ceases to be science—it becomes pseudoscience.

I would also add that Thomas Kuhn, in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, introduced the idea of paradigms, which are dominant worldviews that define how scientists interpret data. Within a paradigm, anomalies can build up over time, but the system resists change until a paradigm shift occurs.

If we apply Kuhn’s framework here, feminism operates within a patriarchy-as-paradigm framework. Any data about gender must be filtered through it. Even when mounting anomalies appear—e.g., male suicide, sentencing disparities, educational decline in boys—the paradigm remains intact. These aren’t signs the theory is wrong; they’re interpreted as evidence that the patriarchy is just deeper, more insidious, or more internalized than we thought.

Kuhn argued that revolutions occur when the cost of ignoring anomalies exceeds the cost of changing the paradigm. But with patriarchy theory, the opposite happens: the more anomalies appear, the more elaborate the explanations become.

Imre Lakatos refined Kuhn’s ideas by describing research programs, which are theories with a “hard core” that is protected by an adjustable “protective belt” of auxiliary hypotheses.

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In a progressive program, new data leads to predictions and discoveries. In a degenerating program, data is explained away through ad hoc modifications, just to preserve the core belief.

Patriarchy theory is clearly in the degenerating phase:


When women dominate education? “Still patriarchy—schools teach girls to please authority.”

When women have more reproductive power? “It’s still patriarchy—men fear female sexuality.”


If men are structurally privileged, then they must generally benefit more than they suffer from that privilege. Yet no matter what the data shows, the hard core assumption that men created and benefit from a system that oppresses women—remains untouched. And to me, that does not look like growth; rather, it's theological preservationism masquerading as social science.

Before I move on, I'd like to analyze this from opposing viewpoints, as some may argue that I am engaging in scientism—which is, in and of itself, quite rigid, as it's a framework that argues science and the scientific method are the best or only way to render truth about the world and reality. I see it as an old trope—when one's ideological framework can't meet basic evidentiary standards, accuse the critic of scientism. But the truth is, if a theory makes causal claims about society—about outcomes, distributions, structures—it is pretending to be descriptive. And once you claim to describe, you are making empirical claims. You don’t get to assert causality and then escape falsifiability. I don't necessarily believe a system must be material—but must it be coherent? Yes. If you’re calling “patriarchy” a system, and that system produces observable outcomes, then it is subject to the same scrutiny as any other causal explanation. Furthermore, if multiple frameworks claim to explain modern gender structures, we must evaluate which one has the fewest assumptions, the broadest scope, and the greatest predictive value. 'Patriarchy' increasingly requires ad hoc explanations to survive anomalies, whereas gynocentrism or evolutionary reproductive theory, offer a more parsimonious and falsifiable account.

Lastly, I would like to explain these ideas in more detail and analyze common "patriarchal" ideas—and why they fall apart under scrutiny. The truth is, there is no such thing as a patriarchy in the way it is typically portrayed. The so-called patriarchy is better understood as a manifestation of biological differences between men and women. Furthermore, as previously said, the system is better described through a gynocentric lens—one that emerges from human nature, and is amplified by social, cultural, and technological factors.

Let me explain with some examples. Feminists often criticize the objectification of women, yet men are objectified as well. It may be true that women are objectified more frequently in media and entertainment—but why is that? The answer is simple: men tend to enjoy looking at women more than women enjoy looking at men. Generally speaking, men are more visually attracted to women, which is evident in disparities in physical attractiveness ratings between genders [23]. That’s part of the reason why more men consume pornography—because they are more sexually attracted to women and often experience greater unmet sexual desire, since their access to women is typically limited unless they meet the cartoonishly high standards imposed on them. This dynamic is best explained by supply and demand. I would also add that women still consume a considerable amount of porn, especially through different forms such as erotica, which is not exempt from objectification of men and is arguably worse; they are also the primary buyers of sex toys, which are the most direct form of objectification. Moreover, other forms of objectification—such as being reduced to utility—affect men significantly more.

Now consider the question of why there aren’t more women in STEM fields. This, too, likely has biological roots. The truth is, in highly "egalitarian" and feminist countries like Sweden, where people are free to choose their educational paths, the gender gap in STEM fields is even wider than in less progressive nations. This phenomenon is known as the "gender-equality paradox" — a phenomenon that can be explained by the idea that when people are more free to choose, they follow their interests, which may be influenced by innate preferences. Needless to say, gender differences in general and specific types of intelligence are likely another contributing factor. This suggests that the differences are more biological than cultural.

Another frequently asked question is why there are fewer women in politics. A large-scale study found that women, on average, are less interested in politics than men. Interestingly, the gender gap in political interest was wider in developed, modern societies than in developing ones. This demonstrates that fewer women pursue political careers simply because they are less inclined to engage in political activity, and not because of systemic exclusion.


How the 'Patriarchy' Comes Into Play in the Context of Incels — Analysis​

To illustrate the aforementioned concepts clearly and structurally, I present an infographic I came across online—one that directly pertains to the matters at hand, particularly within the context of incels. It refers to the patriarchy as a catch-all—exactly as I said—and attempts to argue much of the suffering we endure, and the views we hold, are a result of it—which is nonsensical.

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It's quite absurd and laughable, as it attempts to frame our "views" of women as ones shaped by the so-called patriarchy—a notion which is demonstrably false—since our views stem from scientific observation of human nature, and the countless bad experiences we have endured in this gynocentric society. The list of problems it presents is also ridiculous, as no rational explanation could tie those to a mysterious patriarchy, and if inquired, they would likely resort to the same tautological explanations to preserve their flawed belief, in order to absolve women of blame, and attribute it to men. Furthermore, this infographic is susceptible to the very same unfalsifiability I have previously discussed, for it attributes all ailments to a patriarchy without offering any reasonable explanation.

Now, I will structurally dismantle the ideas conveyed in this image:

1. "Incels see these as problems caused by women" — this is a blatant misrepresentation of the views we hold; the majority of us do not attribute the entirety of the blame to women—despite their responsibility for a predominant number of problems. In truth, we recognize the multifactorial nature of such problems, which emerge due to a variety of reasons, such as the inherently gynocentric nature of humans, technology, globalism, modern decadence, simps, and more. Moreover, when we do attribute blame to women—and rightfully so—we do so based on observations of their actions, as well as their direct responsibility and complicity in our suffering. If women are hypergamous, privileged, and they dismiss male suffering as irrelevant—blame will inevitably be placed upon them, and that blame would be rational, not misplaced.

2. "Pressure to be hypersexual" — this is biological reality, not an ideology imposed by men. Male sexual drive is higher on average, which is related to evolutionary factors. Moreover, this pressure is actually reinforced by women who ridicule low-status men, shame virgins, and selectively reward hypermasculine behavior in dating markets. If anything, the “pressure to be hypersexual” is part of a female-curated sexual economy, not a male-imposed one.

3. "Loneliness and isolation – not asking for help" — men didn’t sit down and decree, “Let’s suffer quietly forever.” This is a product of natural selection and social role stratification, not a conspiratorial system created to oppress women. Furthermore, all one must do is observe the behavior women exhibit when a man shows vulnerability; it typically ends with mockery, humiliation, and cruel indifference.

4. "Body image insecurities" — If they genuinely think men oppress themselves with unrealistic body standards, they are misidentifying the source of influence. Female hypergamy and mate selection are the cause, and they're not driven by the mythical "patriarchy."

5. "Lack of mental health support and resources" — who is in charge of much of the modern health and education bureaucracy? Who do politicians pander to? Women, the demographic that votes more, consumes more, and dominates sectors like psychology and education.

If we lived in a society truly run by men for male benefit, wouldn't these services be better funded and targeted toward us? Instead, men are demonized, neglected, and expected to "man up." To call a society shaped around female priorities a patriarchy is ludicrous. This is a clear case of gynocentrism.

Moving on to the bottom part:

1. "Seeing encounters with women as transactional" — this is a consequence of modern dating markets, not patriarchy. Men are not crazy to notice that effort doesn’t guarantee reciprocation, and women benefit from immense sexual choice. When you reduce men to utility, don’t act surprised when some begin to expect outcomes from that utility.

2. "Victimhood – 'I was a nice guy, hot girls are just bitches'" — true, but the part about "hot girls" is a strawman. This is a legitimate reaction to a system where men are treated as disposable unless they meet ludicrously high standards, and denied of love and pleasure because of immutable physical traits.

3. "Normalizing violence against women" — in reality, however, incels are one of the least violent groups on earth. The men most likely to normalize violence against women, and also act upon it—are the very men women flock to.

It's also worth mentioning that ironically, violence against men, whether in prisons, war, or relationships, is routinely ignored by these people; it's significantly more normalized and is often minimized. That only serves to strengthen my point—that society is gynocentric, not patriarchal. This perfectly exemplifies the paradigm entrenchment which these people engage in; they filter the data selectively in an attempt to fortify their flawed perception, and to maintain the hard core assumptions of their 'research program.'

4. "Think they’re entitled to sex just because they’re men" — another dishonest generalization. Most men don’t feel entitled to sex; they feel despair at total exclusion. There’s a difference. Furthermore, the vast number of men who attempt self-improvement disproves this notion entirely, for self-improvement is conceptually antithetical to the notion of inherent entitlement.

To conclude, this infographic demonstrates precisely the epistemological issues that I have described; it misrepresents our views, and proceeds to pin all of our problems onto a mystical force called the 'patriarchy.' In truth, however, none of these problems necessitate the existence of that system, and can be explained more parsimoniously through gynocentrism and female privilege.


The Patriarchy is a Religious Dogma​

Much like how the religious explain natural disasters with “God’s mysterious plan,” feminists explain male suffering with “patriarchy hurting men too.” It’s circular, emotionally manipulative, and immune to reason. And its primary purpose is to assign the blame to men, and to free women from the burden of accountability, because if everything is the fault of the 'patriarchy' — everything is men's fault. Such logic is obviously nonsensical, even within its own framework, for it also assumes women are merely passive observers incapable of any ill—which is false. As a matter of fact, it's often women who advocate for, and instill harmful behavior in their male children—the very same behavior that contributes to our suffering, and should be labeled as 'gynocentric', not 'patriarchal'. Some may try to reconcile with the fact that women themselves support the very same structures and behaviors that are described as 'patriarchal' by attributing the blame to the patriarchy, which is tautological reasoning, again—no accountability. The whole thing is just absurd.

This idea that “patriarchy hurts men too” is the favorite feminist failsafe—as if that preserves the coherence of the theory. But this is equivalent to saying “God gives you cancer to test your faith.” It’s not a real explanation. It’s a weak reframing that allows them to claim concern while still preserving the central narrative that men are at fault.

If a theory both privileges and victimizes men—without a clear mechanism or consistent pattern—then what exactly is its predictive value?

The truth is: men hurting doesn’t falsify patriarchy in feminist eyes—in truly absurd fashion, it confirms it. That’s how you know it’s a theodicy. Every data point loops back to the same metaphysical blame.

Sometimes they do attempt to offer falsifiability to it, commonly by referring to political representation and positions of power, but that is, in a sense, an apex fallacy—as it ignores the masses of men who are treated as second class citizens. It also ignores the reality that women hold significant influence over politicians—who often cater specifically to women and their needs, as well as the fact that this disparity could also have biological and evolutionary roots. Furthermore, one should not forget that this is merely shining light on a single power structure, which is solely one among many—social, cultural, sexual, etc.

The modern feminist concept of patriarchy no longer functions as a social theory; it functions as a doctrine of collective guilt. All men are born tainted, whether they benefit from the so-called system or not. It is, in effect, a secular version of original sin: men are inherently suspect, and their very presence in the world is tied to oppression—even if they are homeless, mentally ill, or driven to suicide.

The man who works 12-hour shifts in a freezing meat-packing plant to support a family he will lose in a custody battle? Patriarchy. The boy who fails in a feminized education system designed to reward social compliance over curiosity? Patriarchy. The lonely man who will die alone, unloved, discarded by a hyper-selective sexual marketplace? Patriarchy. The woman who capitalizes on men's loneliness and exploits them through platforms such as OnlyFans? Patriarchy.

How convenient. The same invisible force oppresses women by giving them "too little", and men by giving them too much—of pain, expectation, and burden. It is a moral fail-safe, where no matter who suffers, men are to blame.

But anyone with a functioning brain knows that when a belief system becomes so elastic that it explains everything, it ceases to explain anything.

The truth is, if men actually ran society in a self-serving way—would we allow:


Ourselves to be mutilated at birth?


Ourselves to die in wars we’re drafted into while women are protected?


Ourselves to rot in prison for longer sentences?


Ourselves to be discarded in the dating market based on looks and height?


No. A system that consistently sacrifices men is not a patriarchy. It’s a gynocentric social order under the guise of a purported patriarchy.

In short, the patriarchy—at least in the way it's commonly presented—isn’t a testable, rational framework. It’s an unfalsifiable, theodical belief system designed to preserve a worldview where women are always victims and men are always to blame, regardless of reality.


And like all bad religions, it punishes heretics who point this out.


References and Appendices:
[1] While working on this post, I came across a comment section that echoes the ideas I have expressed perfectly—women and intellectually challenged animals pointing the finger of blame at the 'patriarchy' and at men. The behavior is exactly as I described: the blame is pinned on men, and women are freed of the burden of accountability. All the while, feminist ideology and so-called 'anti-patriarchal' values and actions are nothing more than gynocentrism in disguise. The poster himself fails to understand that the system in question isn’t even what he thinks it is, but the comments are the relevant part anyway.


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So, men are benefiting from MGM being legal? From being the majority of the homeless? The majority of suicides? Being disadvantaged in courts? Facing sexual market disparities? Draft laws? Workplace deaths? Custody settlements? And women being responsible for 85% of consumer spending? That totally sounds like a system that benefits men.

The system does not benefit men in any apparent way, and if probed, she would either resort to tautological reasoning or apex fallacies. In fact, I attempted to confront her—and that’s exactly what she did. She also outright denied statistics that contradicted her dogma.

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It's hilarious how the existence of a patriarchy is automatically assumed yet never questioned. Discarding that flawed assumption, one must understand that women are not merely passive observers incapable of inflicting deleterious harm; in fact, they are dangerous creatures who possess the capability to corrupt society and drive it toward decadence and degradation. This is especially true given their group cohesion and hive-mind behavioral tendencies [24]. The truth is, women are a major force in shaping the current rotten state of affairs, and they hold significant responsibility—which, unfortunately, they will not suffer for. Also, as I have previously stated: this person is utilizing the term patriarchy in a malicious manner with the goal of absolving women of responsibility, for women can't possibly be in the wrong; it must be the patriarchy.

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This is truly the peak of women's logic here.

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You heard her, guys! These are the actions we must take to dismantle the so-called 'patriarchy.' Seriously, this is downright laughable, and I find it hard to believe someone wrote this list seriously. All of the things listed here are merely ways to reinforce an already gynocentric society, and it would be foolish to engage in any of these cucked activities. Furthermore, the last part is not just naïve—it’s utterly delusional.

Let me be perfectly clear: no amount of pandering or self-sacrifice will make women “advocate for men” in any meaningful, systemic way. The idea that women will return favors simply because men support their ridiculous causes is a fantasy rooted in wishful thinking and delusion. This reply is exactly what I previously described: advocacy for further gynocentrism and female supremacy under the guise of fighting "patriarchal values" — and unfortunately, many men fall victim to this nonsense.
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[2] To me, male genital mutilation, also known as circumcision, is truly one of the most detestable, abhorrent, and barbaric practices which persists in modern society. It is nothing short of appalling that a society that preaches morality, civility, and so-called empathy allows such a morally repugnant violation of human rights to occur. How anyone can justify the purposeless mutilation of a body part that evolved for a reason and serves multiple biological functions is beyond me. Studies have been conducted regarding the downsides of circumcision, most notably, reduced penile sensitivity—caused by the removal of special nerve endings and the keratinization of the mucous membrane. Keratinization refers to the natural reaction of the sensitive inner skin and glans of the penis to exposure to air, and friction with underwear—which is caused by the lack of protection that the foreskin is meant to offer.
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[3] WISQARS Leading Causes of Death
[4] Freeman, A., Mergl, R., Kohls, E. et al. A cross-national study on gender differences in suicide intent. BMC Psychiatry 17, 234 (2017). https://doi.org/10.1186/s12888-017-1398-8
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I cited the study about suicidal intent, as it demonstrates a pattern of behavior which many of us were likely aware of: that women's intent is generally not as serious as men's, and is typically a result of attention seeking behavior. Furthermore, these findings poke holes in the feminist notion that women attempt suicide at higher rates, since it is based on the erroneous assertion that intent is equivalent in all cases, and it doesn't take into account the effectiveness of the chosen method.

[5] Annual Homeless Assessment Report (AHAR)
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In addition to the disparity in the number of homeless people—men are unfortunately more likely to be unsheltered, which further exemplifies the apparent female advantage in the modern gynocentric landscape:

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[6] Worker Injuries and Illnesses by Sex
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[7] 2023 Demographic Differences in Federal Sentencing
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[8] Gender Differences in the Sentencing of Felony Offenders

[9] 5/6 Male UK Prisoners would be free if they were Women
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This came to my attention after @GeckoBus made his fantastic thread about the topic, and is particularly relevant to the issues I have discussed. If you have yet to read it, I'd highly advise you do so, as it breaks down many issues that plague the modern societal landscape, while also being pertinent to further matters I will go over:
[10] Embry, R., & Lyons, P. M. (2012). Sex‑based sentencing: Sentencing discrepancies between male and female sex offenders. Feminist Criminology, 7(2), 146–162. https://doi.org/10.1177/1557085111430214
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[11] Nearly 80% of custodial parents are mothers, while fathers make up only about 20%
[12] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/womens-justice-board-begins-plans-to-send-fewer-women-to-prison
[13] Sánchez, Pina, and Louise Harris. Sentencing Gender? Investigating the Presence of Gender Disparities in Crown Court Sentences. University of Leeds, 2020. https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/154388/

[14] Homicide Statistics by Gender

[15] While looking into this topic, I came across this ludicrous feminist drivel, which is a hallmark of what I discussed in this post:


First off, the claim that women experience more repeated and severe abuse is based on police reports and survey data, which are flawed due to underreporting bias—especially when it comes to male victims. Multiple studies show that male victims often underreport abuse due to societal stigma, disbelief, or fear of being mocked. When men do report, they are less likely to be taken seriously or supported. It is only a natural outcome that a disparity in the statistics would emerge, since we live in a highly gynocentric landscape.

And what I really wanted to mention is the nonsensical claim that male violence against women is different because it is “rooted in structural inequality”. This is not an empirical argument; it is a circular ideological assertion. It does not withstand epistemological scrutiny, particularly under Popperian falsifiability. They define the structure as male-dominated, then attribute all male misbehavior to it, and then use that behavior as evidence for the structure. It's the very same tautological reasoning I have previously discussed.

You cannot empirically test whether coercion arises from "patriarchal structure" unless you first demonstrate that such a structure exists, in material terms, and show causality. But as I already argued, feminists do not demonstrate causal mechanisms between societal power structures and individual acts of abuse. They instead assert it axiomatically, which is pseudoscientific by definition.

Furthermore, the claim that “men do not experience domestic abuse as part of embedded, structural inequalities against their sex” is demonstrably false if we look at institutional responses:

  • Shelters for male victims are nearly nonexistent, while many exist for women.
  • Police often arrest the man even when he is the victim, due to “primary aggressor” policies.
  • Legal bias in courts overwhelmingly favors women in abuse allegations and custody.
  • Societal perception ridicules male victims or denies their experiences outright.

If this isn’t embedded inequality, what is?

This system not only ignores male suffering; rather, it actively invalidates and delegitimizes it. In other words: the system is structurally anti-male. That directly contradicts the claim of a “patriarchal” system that advantages men at women's expense.

And just as previously outlined: the argument assumes female innocence and male guilt—akin to the original sin doctrine.
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[16] Statistics on Male Victims of Domestic Abuse
[17] Women Match or Exceed Men in Relationship Aggression
[18] https://www.justice.gov/archives/ovw/blog/updated-definition-rape

I’m sure many of you are well aware of the asymmetry in the legal definition of rape, which excludes made-to-penetrate cases. This leads to a statistical disparity that is frequently used to demonize men while minimizing their experiences. Putting aside my personal views on the subject, it’s clear there is an ongoing injustice and a lack of fairness in determining who is recognized as a victim. Those of you who read the Wiki are likely aware of the CDC’s findings on this issue, which show that under fair definitions, men and women both rape and are raped at similar rates—at least within the past 12 months. The lifetime figures reveal a disparity, though that may be due to generational changes such as the millennial shift and other contributing factors. Furthermore, lifetime prevalence statistics have been challenged because of their susceptibility to inaccuracies:


I must emphasize just how malicious the use of the skewed statistics of rape truly is—utilized to vilify men, and to paint them as animalistic simians that are the primary perpetrators of rape, when ironically, this misrepresentation of facts only serves to prove the gynocentrism within our society, and the immense privilege women hold. It is quite telling that very few studies on made-to-penetrate rape exist, as that would significantly undermine the narrative they cling to.
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[19] Stemple, L., Flores, A., & Meyer, I. H. (2017). Sexual victimization perpetrated by women: Federal data reveal surprising prevalence. Aggression and Violent Behavior, 34, 302–311.
[20] Caricati, L., Baldini, S., & Bonetti, C. (2023). Female‑to‑Male Sexual Assault: The Role of the Perpetrator’s Attractiveness and Attributed Emotional States on Victim Blame. Violence and Victims, 38(3), 396–413.
[21] https://gwern.net/doc/sociology/2021-dimarco.pdf
[22] Statistics on the Purchasing Power of Women Women and Global Spending

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So women basically dictate the economy, control the narrative, hold the purse strings, and still somehow men are "privileged"? This is what a gynocentric society looks like. And yet they still play the victim card like they’re oppressed. How do you control most of the spending and wealth in a country and still act like society is stacked against you?
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[23] Costa, M., & Maestripieri, D. (2023). Physical and psychosocial correlates of facial attractiveness. Evolutionary Behavioral Sciences, 19(2), 165–176. https://doi.org/10.1037/ebs0000331
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[24] The in-group bias of women is another topic I would like to bring forth, as it is a crucial aspect of the subject of gynocentrism, and it grants us the opportunity to better understand female nature, as well as the inherent advantages they possess, and the biases inherent to their psychology. To put it simply, the minds of women are governed by an in-group bias that is 4.5 times stronger than that of men, which is truly disturbing—albeit not surprising. These findings demonstrate a perspicuous reality: women are more likely to favor each other and show increased preference for the well-being of other women—as opposed to men, who do not exhibit a similar bias. In fact, men are more likely to favor women, extol them, and idealize them. This dynamic can clearly be seen in the intrasexual behavior of both sexes, where men are in a perpetual state of competing with each other vehemently, while women exhibit such behavior noticeably less.
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To quote @GeckoBus, who put it very nicely:

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I must admit—this post is far longer than I originally intended for it to be (even after trimming it significantly), and I highly doubt many of you will read it, but for what it's worth, I enjoyed writing about this topic.

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must-read now, for effort and presentation alone. If I could edit my old masculinity thread after the fact, I would have also added much more data to the 4.5 claim, because since them multiple other studies confirming it have entered my radar screen. Most recently this one, which I got from the shield for men YT channel, credit where credit is due.: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202503.1307/v1

All in all a bombshell thread, the type of shit that me me join here in the first place. I also love the inclusion of kuhnian paradigm thinking and would also encourage you to look into things like "the two dogmas of empiricism," the duhem-quine thesis and wilfrid sellars "myth of the given." Not for intellectual masturbation but because I think these are genuinely helpful in analyzing texts and perception. The is/ought distinction also is a massive one. Just look into all the perennial problems of philosophy and apply them in daily life, like problem of induction and deduction, problem of the criterion, problem of epistemic bootstrapping, munchhausen trilemma, problem of universals, problem of identity over time etc. Also, try to avoid nihilism, I don't think it makes a lot of sense for one and is self-contraditory. There are pre-conditions for experience and intelligibility and these are identical across all worldviews, by impossibility of the contrary

(denying the existence of numbers for example as mind-independent universals leads to destruction of entire worldview, since you need at least once and two to make distinctions between anything, and without distinction, no evaluation -> everything is one -> modal collapse -> self contradiction. Ethically too - why ought we value truth and be truthful? why should we do anything at all? Without objective grounding, you can't defend your worldview. Appealing to consequentalism just begs question why the consequences you define matter etc)

Here ae some links. The first one is an intelligent fellow who highlights evidence that brains can not be storing memory, with empirical reference. The second link is to the website of an orthodox christian deacon, professor ananias sorem, who teaches logic at a university. I am not trying to convert you, I just think that studying presuppositional appologetics on a high level gets you super in touch with meta-level philosophical reasoning, which is helpful across the board. The last link is a paper critiquing the uncritical use of statistics as a measure of scientific validity and how it has gotten out of hand in the last 70 years, contributing to issues such as the decline effect and the replication crisis.

carroll.academia.edu/ErikSorem

All of this is tremendously helpful in understanding how people think, why arguments don't work and how to dissect their claims, which are full of fallacies, even in published papers, such as conflations of is and ought claims (fact-value collapse), category errors, reification of constructs like patriarchy, supposed incel violence etc. For example in one paper stupid clown asked me to review, they came up with a quantitative measure to determine the danger level of online manosphere persons. Completely absurd, since quantification and ethics are different categories, so this is a clear violaton of the is-ought distinction and a blatant category error.


These people literally think they are describing reality in a neutral way, which is completely retarded and naive realism at its finest. There is no such thing as a value neutral description of reality. The very idea presupposes "reality" as this independent category aside from human perception that is just self affirming and obvious. How would you know this though, epistemically? You can't, you immediately run into classic humian skepticism. So their claims really default to soft power and violence, they just assert their view of reality as objective using some macguffin as justification, backed by their own authority (academic credential for example). This is no different than a priest reading the entrails of a goat and interpreting a peasants dream for him. The authority of the priest mixed with the pseudo-methodology of reading the entrails provides the justification. But ultimately the priest is just appealing to himself as mediator between the "higher reality" which the peasant can not know, and the foggy, messy reality of the peasant.

The priests also make sure to remind the peasants all the time that they do not have the ability to reason for themselves because they "are not priests" and therefore can not read the entrails of goats correctly. In a similar fashion, people that critique incels often do so from an ivory throne, never stooping to the level of the incels they study. We are like rats, to be distantly observed, but never directly confronted, engaged with. They look at us like noble fucks peeking through their gawdy spectacles at the stage and exchanging whispered nothings with fellow elites, while the performers sweat dribbles from their underfed bodies and seeps into the grimy stage boards. We are subjects, not human beings.

Oh sure, they will tell you, we let the evidence guide us, or some humbug like that. It's no different from some religious scholar sayng the text speaks for itself. As if the evidence is self-interpreting. Again, all of this is just a circular appeal to their own authority. Incels are violent, because we define violence a certain way, and then we interpret what we define as incels to fit what we define as violence and terrorism, therefore incels are objectively violent and dangerous. This is academic schizophrenia, like the psychotic, they listen to the white noise of a radio and hear what they want. Oh Charles, the voices, the voices! They tell me these eeeevil men want to kill all wommen! Oh the humanity!

Such is the gynocrat in his deluded head, fashioning himself a cage and calling it a palace while mischievously oogling anyone who dare disagree.
 
Feminism is a dogmatic religion. Bonobos practice child molestation and aggressive males (aka the complete opposite of high inhibition incels) are still more likely to reproduce in their matriarchical societies. Aggression is still rewarded in non patriarchies or at the very least heavily incentivized. If they knew basic facts about anthropology then they'd know their ideology premised on blaming men for everything wrong with the world is blatantly false and not supported by any cursory glance of the available evidence and data. But these people live in echochambers and will never step outside of their cult.
 
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@Fat Link @SlayerSlayer fantastic post. Arguably the best on this site. Needs to be pinned asap and added to the best of section
 
This is a phenomenal thread. A very eloquent and insightful read. :feelsautistic:
 
I would like to preface this by stating this post primarily refers to the mainstream usage of the term 'patriarchy', which is commonly invoked as a catch-all term with the purpose of villainizing men, painting them as inherently privileged, and absolving women of responsibility. This post is quite long-winded, and originally, I was planning to condense all the ideas and topics into a single, large section. However, I have opted against that, since it would have made it overly lengthy and discursive. The post is separated into two sections: the first, primary section — in which I present the central ideas — and the second, in which I offer additional commentary, citations, and interesting things I have come across. The second section is meant to act as supplementary work and is quite lengthy, as I went somewhat overboard.


For the past few months, I have been studying epistemological examination, and one notion that I wanted to delve into is the purported "patriarchy" — the ever-present system that is constantly thrown around to pin the blame on men, and avoid accountability on the part of women—you will see examples of that often, such as 'Who set that system up?' [1]. But the truth is, if patriarchy is everywhere, nowhere, historic, present, abstract, embodied, structural, semantic, and spiritual—then what you call patriarchy is no longer a system. It’s a theodicy. This post will likely be water to many of you, but I still felt like writing it, especially because it's a slightly more in-depth examination of this topic, specifically how the concept of "patriarchy" functions, and how it's used by the masses—not as a social theory, but as a theodicy.

To begin, in theology, a theodicy is a justification for why evil exists in a world supposedly governed by a benevolent God. It exists to preserve belief, not to explain reality—it's often illogical and requires mental gymnastics. And that’s exactly how the modern feminist idea of patriarchy functions.

The "patriarchy" is invoked as this invisible, omnipresent, male-dominated power structure that supposedly explains every "hardship" women face—which are typically made-up, exaggerated, and a result of a deliberate misrepresentation of facts and reality. But when men face disproportionate suffering? Somehow, that too is chalked up to “patriarchy”—as if men built a system to oppress themselves. This, to me, is quite frankly such a hilarious concept, and it goes to show how far they are willing to strive in an attempt to avoid accountability and pin all the blame on men. Just blame every single societal ailment on a mysterious "patriarchy" — I suppose that is much easier than addressing the detrimental problems that plague our society, most notably affecting men in particular.

Originally, patriarchy referred to systems where men held overt, legal power over women—think ancient tribes or literal male property ownership—and such systems didn't emerge with the intention of specifically oppressing anybody; it was simply how humans developed, and the system that functioned well. It was a system that also made sense from an evolutionary perspective, and from a general perspective that considers the innate advantages that women possess due to them being the selective sex, so even if we do concede a patriarchy existed, it certainly wasn't the way feminists like to portray it, and women held many advantages even within it, since human nature is inherently gynocentric. From my observations, I also came to the conclusion a form of presentism is occurring here—a projection of present ideas, beliefs, and values upon the past. Presentism essentially describes the phenomenon of fallacious application of modern lens, and a misrepresentation of the past, which inevitably leads to flawed interpretations of past systems and values. Feminist presentism assumes that modern "egalitarian" values are timeless truths, and therefore all deviation from them in the past was necessarily unjust. But historical cultures had different value systems, and their structures can only be understood relative to the constraints, threats, and technologies of the time—but I digress. The point is, today, patriarchy is a slippery term used to describe anything feminists dislike. A woman is catcalled? Patriarchy. A woman is a CEO? Tokenism—still patriarchy. A man is homeless? Patriarchy made him toxic. It’s tautological.

Now that we got the definitions and the premise out of the way—I want to present the concept of epistemological falsification, which is, as introduced by Karl Popper, the principle that a theory can be considered scientific and epistemically sound only if it is testable and potentially falsifiable through empirical observation. This means that a scientific theory must be able to be proven wrong by evidence, not just confirmed. It's a core concept in the philosophy of science, particularly in distinguishing science from non-science. In the case of the patriarchy, at least as purported by the majority of the populace—it is unfalsifiable.

Try to present any counter-evidence, and you'll get absurd mental gymnastics:

  • Male Genital Mutilation is legal and normalized; female genital mutilation is outlawed globally and condemned. — "Still patriarchy; men normalized their own pain to serve toxic masculinity." [2]
  • Men commit suicide at 3–4x the rate of women. — "That’s because men don’t express their emotions, which is caused by... you guessed it, patriarchy." [3, 4]
  • Men make up the vast majority of the homeless. — Ignored. [5]
  • Men dominate the most dangerous and underpaid jobs. — "Because they don’t let women in!" [6]
  • Men get longer sentences for the same crimes, and are less likely to win custody battles. — "Well, women are better caregivers" (funny how the patriarchy is selective in empowering women only when it benefits them). [7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13]
  • Men are more likely to be victims of violence, but get less support. — Silence. [14, 15, 16, 17]
  • Asymmetrical rape laws exclude "forced to penetrate" cases. If a woman forces a man into sex, she often walks away free. — Must have been the patriarchy! [18, 19, 20, 21]
  • Sexual market disparity? Women control it entirely post-sexual revolution. Hypergamy is rampant. Women chase the top percentage of men, leaving millions completely excluded and at a severe disadvantage. — "Men are entitled!"
  • Women drive 80% of consumer spending through their purchasing power and influence. — "That's just because men made them care about shopping!" [22]

At this point, what would falsify the theory? Nothing. That’s the point.

The problem with the modern feminist conception of “patriarchy” is that it has devolved into a theory that absorbs counter-evidence rather than being challenged by it. Anything that is contradictory to the ideas it purports, simply transforms into evidence for it, which is illogical and preposterous. There is no imaginable state of the world that falsifies the theory. And according to Popper, that means it ceases to be science—it becomes pseudoscience.

I would also add that Thomas Kuhn, in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, introduced the idea of paradigms, which are dominant worldviews that define how scientists interpret data. Within a paradigm, anomalies can build up over time, but the system resists change until a paradigm shift occurs.

If we apply Kuhn’s framework here, feminism operates within a patriarchy-as-paradigm framework. Any data about gender must be filtered through it. Even when mounting anomalies appear—e.g., male suicide, sentencing disparities, educational decline in boys—the paradigm remains intact. These aren’t signs the theory is wrong; they’re interpreted as evidence that the patriarchy is just deeper, more insidious, or more internalized than we thought.

Kuhn argued that revolutions occur when the cost of ignoring anomalies exceeds the cost of changing the paradigm. But with patriarchy theory, the opposite happens: the more anomalies appear, the more elaborate the explanations become.

Imre Lakatos refined Kuhn’s ideas by describing research programs, which are theories with a “hard core” that is protected by an adjustable “protective belt” of auxiliary hypotheses.

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In a progressive program, new data leads to predictions and discoveries. In a degenerating program, data is explained away through ad hoc modifications, just to preserve the core belief.

Patriarchy theory is clearly in the degenerating phase:


When women dominate education? “Still patriarchy—schools teach girls to please authority.”

When women have more reproductive power? “It’s still patriarchy—men fear female sexuality.”


If men are structurally privileged, then they must generally benefit more than they suffer from that privilege. Yet no matter what the data shows, the hard core assumption that men created and benefit from a system that oppresses women—remains untouched. And to me, that does not look like growth; rather, it's theological preservationism masquerading as social science.

Before I move on, I'd like to analyze this from opposing viewpoints, as some may argue that I am engaging in scientism—which is, in and of itself, quite rigid, as it's a framework that argues science and the scientific method are the best or only way to render truth about the world and reality. I see it as an old trope—when one's ideological framework can't meet basic evidentiary standards, accuse the critic of scientism. But the truth is, if a theory makes causal claims about society—about outcomes, distributions, structures—it is pretending to be descriptive. And once you claim to describe, you are making empirical claims. You don’t get to assert causality and then escape falsifiability. I don't necessarily believe a system must be material—but must it be coherent? Yes. If you’re calling “patriarchy” a system, and that system produces observable outcomes, then it is subject to the same scrutiny as any other causal explanation. Furthermore, if multiple frameworks claim to explain modern gender structures, we must evaluate which one has the fewest assumptions, the broadest scope, and the greatest predictive value. 'Patriarchy' increasingly requires ad hoc explanations to survive anomalies, whereas gynocentrism or evolutionary reproductive theory, offer a more parsimonious and falsifiable account.

Lastly, I would like to explain these ideas in more detail and analyze common "patriarchal" ideas—and why they fall apart under scrutiny. The truth is, there is no such thing as a patriarchy in the way it is typically portrayed. The so-called patriarchy is better understood as a manifestation of biological differences between men and women. Furthermore, as previously said, the system is better described through a gynocentric lens—one that emerges from human nature, and is amplified by social, cultural, and technological factors.

Let me explain with some examples. Feminists often criticize the objectification of women, yet men are objectified as well. It may be true that women are objectified more frequently in media and entertainment—but why is that? The answer is simple: men tend to enjoy looking at women more than women enjoy looking at men. Generally speaking, men are more visually attracted to women, which is evident in disparities in physical attractiveness ratings between genders [23]. That’s part of the reason why more men consume pornography—because they are more sexually attracted to women and often experience greater unmet sexual desire, since their access to women is typically limited unless they meet the cartoonishly high standards imposed on them. This dynamic is best explained by supply and demand. I would also add that women still consume a considerable amount of porn, especially through different forms such as erotica, which is not exempt from objectification of men and is arguably worse; they are also the primary buyers of sex toys, which are the most direct form of objectification. Moreover, other forms of objectification—such as being reduced to utility—affect men significantly more.

Now consider the question of why there aren’t more women in STEM fields. This, too, likely has biological roots. The truth is, in highly "egalitarian" and feminist countries like Sweden, where people are free to choose their educational paths, the gender gap in STEM fields is even wider than in less progressive nations. This phenomenon is known as the "gender-equality paradox" — a phenomenon that can be explained by the idea that when people are more free to choose, they follow their interests, which may be influenced by innate preferences. Needless to say, gender differences in general and specific types of intelligence are likely another contributing factor. This suggests that the differences are more biological than cultural.

Another frequently asked question is why there are fewer women in politics. A large-scale study found that women, on average, are less interested in politics than men. Interestingly, the gender gap in political interest was wider in developed, modern societies than in developing ones. This demonstrates that fewer women pursue political careers simply because they are less inclined to engage in political activity, and not because of systemic exclusion.


How the 'Patriarchy' Comes Into Play in the Context of Incels — Analysis​

To illustrate the aforementioned concepts clearly and structurally, I present an infographic I came across online—one that directly pertains to the matters at hand, particularly within the context of incels. It refers to the patriarchy as a catch-all—exactly as I said—and attempts to argue much of the suffering we endure, and the views we hold, are a result of it—which is nonsensical.

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It's quite absurd and laughable, as it attempts to frame our "views" of women as ones shaped by the so-called patriarchy—a notion which is demonstrably false—since our views stem from scientific observation of human nature, and the countless bad experiences we have endured in this gynocentric society. The list of problems it presents is also ridiculous, as no rational explanation could tie those to a mysterious patriarchy, and if inquired, they would likely resort to the same tautological explanations to preserve their flawed belief, in order to absolve women of blame, and attribute it to men. Furthermore, this infographic is susceptible to the very same unfalsifiability I have previously discussed, for it attributes all ailments to a patriarchy without offering any reasonable explanation.

Now, I will structurally dismantle the ideas conveyed in this image:

1. "Incels see these as problems caused by women" — this is a blatant misrepresentation of the views we hold; the majority of us do not attribute the entirety of the blame to women—despite their responsibility for a predominant number of problems. In truth, we recognize the multifactorial nature of such problems, which emerge due to a variety of reasons, such as the inherently gynocentric nature of humans, technology, globalism, modern decadence, simps, and more. Moreover, when we do attribute blame to women—and rightfully so—we do so based on observations of their actions, as well as their direct responsibility and complicity in our suffering. If women are hypergamous, privileged, and they dismiss male suffering as irrelevant—blame will inevitably be placed upon them, and that blame would be rational, not misplaced.

2. "Pressure to be hypersexual" — this is biological reality, not an ideology imposed by men. Male sexual drive is higher on average, which is related to evolutionary factors. Moreover, this pressure is actually reinforced by women who ridicule low-status men, shame virgins, and selectively reward hypermasculine behavior in dating markets. If anything, the “pressure to be hypersexual” is part of a female-curated sexual economy, not a male-imposed one.

3. "Loneliness and isolation – not asking for help" — men didn’t sit down and decree, “Let’s suffer quietly forever.” This is a product of natural selection and social role stratification, not a conspiratorial system created to oppress women. Furthermore, all one must do is observe the behavior women exhibit when a man shows vulnerability; it typically ends with mockery, humiliation, and cruel indifference.

4. "Body image insecurities" — If they genuinely think men oppress themselves with unrealistic body standards, they are misidentifying the source of influence. Female hypergamy and mate selection are the cause, and they're not driven by the mythical "patriarchy."

5. "Lack of mental health support and resources" — who is in charge of much of the modern health and education bureaucracy? Who do politicians pander to? Women, the demographic that votes more, consumes more, and dominates sectors like psychology and education.

If we lived in a society truly run by men for male benefit, wouldn't these services be better funded and targeted toward us? Instead, men are demonized, neglected, and expected to "man up." To call a society shaped around female priorities a patriarchy is ludicrous. This is a clear case of gynocentrism.

Moving on to the bottom part:

1. "Seeing encounters with women as transactional" — this is a consequence of modern dating markets, not patriarchy. Men are not crazy to notice that effort doesn’t guarantee reciprocation, and women benefit from immense sexual choice. When you reduce men to utility, don’t act surprised when some begin to expect outcomes from that utility.

2. "Victimhood – 'I was a nice guy, hot girls are just bitches'" — true, but the part about "hot girls" is a strawman. This is a legitimate reaction to a system where men are treated as disposable unless they meet ludicrously high standards, and denied of love and pleasure because of immutable physical traits.

3. "Normalizing violence against women" — in reality, however, incels are one of the least violent groups on earth. The men most likely to normalize violence against women, and also act upon it—are the very men women flock to.

It's also worth mentioning that ironically, violence against men, whether in prisons, war, or relationships, is routinely ignored by these people; it's significantly more normalized and is often minimized. That only serves to strengthen my point—that society is gynocentric, not patriarchal. This perfectly exemplifies the paradigm entrenchment which these people engage in; they filter the data selectively in an attempt to fortify their flawed perception, and to maintain the hard core assumptions of their 'research program.'

4. "Think they’re entitled to sex just because they’re men" — another dishonest generalization. Most men don’t feel entitled to sex; they feel despair at total exclusion. There’s a difference. Furthermore, the vast number of men who attempt self-improvement disproves this notion entirely, for self-improvement is conceptually antithetical to the notion of inherent entitlement.

To conclude, this infographic demonstrates precisely the epistemological issues that I have described; it misrepresents our views, and proceeds to pin all of our problems onto a mystical force called the 'patriarchy.' In truth, however, none of these problems necessitate the existence of that system, and can be explained more parsimoniously through gynocentrism and female privilege.


The Patriarchy is a Religious Dogma​

Much like how the religious explain natural disasters with “God’s mysterious plan,” feminists explain male suffering with “patriarchy hurting men too.” It’s circular, emotionally manipulative, and immune to reason. And its primary purpose is to assign the blame to men, and to free women from the burden of accountability, because if everything is the fault of the 'patriarchy' — everything is men's fault. Such logic is obviously nonsensical, even within its own framework, for it also assumes women are merely passive observers incapable of any ill—which is false. As a matter of fact, it's often women who advocate for, and instill harmful behavior in their male children—the very same behavior that contributes to our suffering, and should be labeled as 'gynocentric', not 'patriarchal'. Some may try to reconcile with the fact that women themselves support the very same structures and behaviors that are described as 'patriarchal' by attributing the blame to the patriarchy, which is tautological reasoning, again—no accountability. The whole thing is just absurd.

This idea that “patriarchy hurts men too” is the favorite feminist failsafe—as if that preserves the coherence of the theory. But this is equivalent to saying “God gives you cancer to test your faith.” It’s not a real explanation. It’s a weak reframing that allows them to claim concern while still preserving the central narrative that men are at fault.

If a theory both privileges and victimizes men—without a clear mechanism or consistent pattern—then what exactly is its predictive value?

The truth is: men hurting doesn’t falsify patriarchy in feminist eyes—in truly absurd fashion, it confirms it. That’s how you know it’s a theodicy. Every data point loops back to the same metaphysical blame.

Sometimes they do attempt to offer falsifiability to it, commonly by referring to political representation and positions of power, but that is, in a sense, an apex fallacy—as it ignores the masses of men who are treated as second class citizens. It also ignores the reality that women hold significant influence over politicians—who often cater specifically to women and their needs, as well as the fact that this disparity could also have biological and evolutionary roots. Furthermore, one should not forget that this is merely shining light on a single power structure, which is solely one among many—social, cultural, sexual, etc.

The modern feminist concept of patriarchy no longer functions as a social theory; it functions as a doctrine of collective guilt. All men are born tainted, whether they benefit from the so-called system or not. It is, in effect, a secular version of original sin: men are inherently suspect, and their very presence in the world is tied to oppression—even if they are homeless, mentally ill, or driven to suicide.

The man who works 12-hour shifts in a freezing meat-packing plant to support a family he will lose in a custody battle? Patriarchy. The boy who fails in a feminized education system designed to reward social compliance over curiosity? Patriarchy. The lonely man who will die alone, unloved, discarded by a hyper-selective sexual marketplace? Patriarchy. The woman who capitalizes on men's loneliness and exploits them through platforms such as OnlyFans? Patriarchy.

How convenient. The same invisible force oppresses women by giving them "too little", and men by giving them too much—of pain, expectation, and burden. It is a moral fail-safe, where no matter who suffers, men are to blame.

But anyone with a functioning brain knows that when a belief system becomes so elastic that it explains everything, it ceases to explain anything.

The truth is, if men actually ran society in a self-serving way—would we allow:


Ourselves to be mutilated at birth?


Ourselves to die in wars we’re drafted into while women are protected?


Ourselves to rot in prison for longer sentences?


Ourselves to be discarded in the dating market based on looks and height?


No. A system that consistently sacrifices men is not a patriarchy. It’s a gynocentric social order under the guise of a purported patriarchy.

In short, the patriarchy—at least in the way it's commonly presented—isn’t a testable, rational framework. It’s an unfalsifiable, theodical belief system designed to preserve a worldview where women are always victims and men are always to blame, regardless of reality.


And like all bad religions, it punishes heretics who point this out.


References and Appendices:
[1] While working on this post, I came across a comment section that echoes the ideas I have expressed perfectly—women and intellectually challenged animals pointing the finger of blame at the 'patriarchy' and at men. The behavior is exactly as I described: the blame is pinned on men, and women are freed of the burden of accountability. All the while, feminist ideology and so-called 'anti-patriarchal' values and actions are nothing more than gynocentrism in disguise. The poster himself fails to understand that the system in question isn’t even what he thinks it is, but the comments are the relevant part anyway.


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So, men are benefiting from MGM being legal? From being the majority of the homeless? The majority of suicides? Being disadvantaged in courts? Facing sexual market disparities? Draft laws? Workplace deaths? Custody settlements? And women being responsible for 85% of consumer spending? That totally sounds like a system that benefits men.

The system does not benefit men in any apparent way, and if probed, she would either resort to tautological reasoning or apex fallacies. In fact, I attempted to confront her—and that’s exactly what she did. She also outright denied statistics that contradicted her dogma.

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It's hilarious how the existence of a patriarchy is automatically assumed yet never questioned. Discarding that flawed assumption, one must understand that women are not merely passive observers incapable of inflicting deleterious harm; in fact, they are dangerous creatures who possess the capability to corrupt society and drive it toward decadence and degradation. This is especially true given their group cohesion and hive-mind behavioral tendencies [24]. The truth is, women are a major force in shaping the current rotten state of affairs, and they hold significant responsibility—which, unfortunately, they will not suffer for. Also, as I have previously stated: this person is utilizing the term patriarchy in a malicious manner with the goal of absolving women of responsibility, for women can't possibly be in the wrong; it must be the patriarchy.

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This is truly the peak of women's logic here.

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You heard her, guys! These are the actions we must take to dismantle the so-called 'patriarchy.' Seriously, this is downright laughable, and I find it hard to believe someone wrote this list seriously. All of the things listed here are merely ways to reinforce an already gynocentric society, and it would be foolish to engage in any of these cucked activities. Furthermore, the last part is not just naïve—it’s utterly delusional.

Let me be perfectly clear: no amount of pandering or self-sacrifice will make women “advocate for men” in any meaningful, systemic way. The idea that women will return favors simply because men support their ridiculous causes is a fantasy rooted in wishful thinking and delusion. This reply is exactly what I previously described: advocacy for further gynocentrism and female supremacy under the guise of fighting "patriarchal values" — and unfortunately, many men fall victim to this nonsense.
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[2] To me, male genital mutilation, also known as circumcision, is truly one of the most detestable, abhorrent, and barbaric practices which persists in modern society. It is nothing short of appalling that a society that preaches morality, civility, and so-called empathy allows such a morally repugnant violation of human rights to occur. How anyone can justify the purposeless mutilation of a body part that evolved for a reason and serves multiple biological functions is beyond me. Studies have been conducted regarding the downsides of circumcision, most notably, reduced penile sensitivity—caused by the removal of special nerve endings and the keratinization of the mucous membrane. Keratinization refers to the natural reaction of the sensitive inner skin and glans of the penis to exposure to air, and friction with underwear—which is caused by the lack of protection that the foreskin is meant to offer.
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[3] WISQARS Leading Causes of Death
[4] Freeman, A., Mergl, R., Kohls, E. et al. A cross-national study on gender differences in suicide intent. BMC Psychiatry 17, 234 (2017). https://doi.org/10.1186/s12888-017-1398-8
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I cited the study about suicidal intent, as it demonstrates a pattern of behavior which many of us were likely aware of: that women's intent is generally not as serious as men's, and is typically a result of attention seeking behavior. Furthermore, these findings poke holes in the feminist notion that women attempt suicide at higher rates, since it is based on the erroneous assertion that intent is equivalent in all cases, and it doesn't take into account the effectiveness of the chosen method.

[5] Annual Homeless Assessment Report (AHAR)
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In addition to the disparity in the number of homeless people—men are unfortunately more likely to be unsheltered, which further exemplifies the apparent female advantage in the modern gynocentric landscape:

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[6] Worker Injuries and Illnesses by Sex
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[7] 2023 Demographic Differences in Federal Sentencing
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[8] Gender Differences in the Sentencing of Felony Offenders

[9] 5/6 Male UK Prisoners would be free if they were Women
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This came to my attention after @GeckoBus made his fantastic thread about the topic, and is particularly relevant to the issues I have discussed. If you have yet to read it, I'd highly advise you do so, as it breaks down many issues that plague the modern societal landscape, while also being pertinent to further matters I will go over:
[10] Embry, R., & Lyons, P. M. (2012). Sex‑based sentencing: Sentencing discrepancies between male and female sex offenders. Feminist Criminology, 7(2), 146–162. https://doi.org/10.1177/1557085111430214
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[11] Nearly 80% of custodial parents are mothers, while fathers make up only about 20%
[12] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/womens-justice-board-begins-plans-to-send-fewer-women-to-prison
[13] Sánchez, Pina, and Louise Harris. Sentencing Gender? Investigating the Presence of Gender Disparities in Crown Court Sentences. University of Leeds, 2020. https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/154388/

[14] Homicide Statistics by Gender

[15] While looking into this topic, I came across this ludicrous feminist drivel, which is a hallmark of what I discussed in this post:


First off, the claim that women experience more repeated and severe abuse is based on police reports and survey data, which are flawed due to underreporting bias—especially when it comes to male victims. Multiple studies show that male victims often underreport abuse due to societal stigma, disbelief, or fear of being mocked. When men do report, they are less likely to be taken seriously or supported. It is only a natural outcome that a disparity in the statistics would emerge, since we live in a highly gynocentric landscape.

And what I really wanted to mention is the nonsensical claim that male violence against women is different because it is “rooted in structural inequality”. This is not an empirical argument; it is a circular ideological assertion. It does not withstand epistemological scrutiny, particularly under Popperian falsifiability. They define the structure as male-dominated, then attribute all male misbehavior to it, and then use that behavior as evidence for the structure. It's the very same tautological reasoning I have previously discussed.

You cannot empirically test whether coercion arises from "patriarchal structure" unless you first demonstrate that such a structure exists, in material terms, and show causality. But as I already argued, feminists do not demonstrate causal mechanisms between societal power structures and individual acts of abuse. They instead assert it axiomatically, which is pseudoscientific by definition.

Furthermore, the claim that “men do not experience domestic abuse as part of embedded, structural inequalities against their sex” is demonstrably false if we look at institutional responses:

  • Shelters for male victims are nearly nonexistent, while many exist for women.
  • Police often arrest the man even when he is the victim, due to “primary aggressor” policies.
  • Legal bias in courts overwhelmingly favors women in abuse allegations and custody.
  • Societal perception ridicules male victims or denies their experiences outright.

If this isn’t embedded inequality, what is?

This system not only ignores male suffering; rather, it actively invalidates and delegitimizes it. In other words: the system is structurally anti-male. That directly contradicts the claim of a “patriarchal” system that advantages men at women's expense.

And just as previously outlined: the argument assumes female innocence and male guilt—akin to the original sin doctrine.
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[16] Statistics on Male Victims of Domestic Abuse
[17] Women Match or Exceed Men in Relationship Aggression
[18] https://www.justice.gov/archives/ovw/blog/updated-definition-rape

I’m sure many of you are well aware of the asymmetry in the legal definition of rape, which excludes made-to-penetrate cases. This leads to a statistical disparity that is frequently used to demonize men while minimizing their experiences. Putting aside my personal views on the subject, it’s clear there is an ongoing injustice and a lack of fairness in determining who is recognized as a victim. Those of you who read the Wiki are likely aware of the CDC’s findings on this issue, which show that under fair definitions, men and women both rape and are raped at similar rates—at least within the past 12 months. The lifetime figures reveal a disparity, though that may be due to generational changes such as the millennial shift and other contributing factors. Furthermore, lifetime prevalence statistics have been challenged because of their susceptibility to inaccuracies:


I must emphasize just how malicious the use of the skewed statistics of rape truly is—utilized to vilify men, and to paint them as animalistic simians that are the primary perpetrators of rape, when ironically, this misrepresentation of facts only serves to prove the gynocentrism within our society, and the immense privilege women hold. It is quite telling that very few studies on made-to-penetrate rape exist, as that would significantly undermine the narrative they cling to.
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[19] Stemple, L., Flores, A., & Meyer, I. H. (2017). Sexual victimization perpetrated by women: Federal data reveal surprising prevalence. Aggression and Violent Behavior, 34, 302–311.
[20] Caricati, L., Baldini, S., & Bonetti, C. (2023). Female‑to‑Male Sexual Assault: The Role of the Perpetrator’s Attractiveness and Attributed Emotional States on Victim Blame. Violence and Victims, 38(3), 396–413.
[21] https://gwern.net/doc/sociology/2021-dimarco.pdf
[22] Statistics on the Purchasing Power of Women Women and Global Spending

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So women basically dictate the economy, control the narrative, hold the purse strings, and still somehow men are "privileged"? This is what a gynocentric society looks like. And yet they still play the victim card like they’re oppressed. How do you control most of the spending and wealth in a country and still act like society is stacked against you?
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[23] Costa, M., & Maestripieri, D. (2023). Physical and psychosocial correlates of facial attractiveness. Evolutionary Behavioral Sciences, 19(2), 165–176. https://doi.org/10.1037/ebs0000331
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[24] The in-group bias of women is another topic I would like to bring forth, as it is a crucial aspect of the subject of gynocentrism, and it grants us the opportunity to better understand female nature, as well as the inherent advantages they possess, and the biases inherent to their psychology. To put it simply, the minds of women are governed by an in-group bias that is 4.5 times stronger than that of men, which is truly disturbing—albeit not surprising. These findings demonstrate a perspicuous reality: women are more likely to favor each other and show increased preference for the well-being of other women—as opposed to men, who do not exhibit a similar bias. In fact, men are more likely to favor women, extol them, and idealize them. This dynamic can clearly be seen in the intrasexual behavior of both sexes, where men are in a perpetual state of competing with each other vehemently, while women exhibit such behavior noticeably less.
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To quote @GeckoBus, who put it very nicely:

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I must admit—this post is far longer than I originally intended for it to be (even after trimming it significantly), and I highly doubt many of you will read it, but for what it's worth, I enjoyed writing about this topic.

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I would like to preface this by stating this post primarily refers to the mainstream usage of the term 'patriarchy', which is commonly invoked as a catch-all term with the purpose of villainizing men, painting them as inherently privileged, and absolving women of responsibility. This post is quite long-winded, and originally, I was planning to condense all the ideas and topics into a single, large section. However, I have opted against that, since it would have made it overly lengthy and discursive. The post is separated into two sections: the first, primary section — in which I present the central ideas — and the second, in which I offer additional commentary, citations, and interesting things I have come across. The second section is meant to act as supplementary work and is quite lengthy, as I went somewhat overboard.


For the past few months, I have been studying epistemological examination, and one notion that I wanted to delve into is the purported "patriarchy" — the ever-present system that is constantly thrown around to pin the blame on men, and avoid accountability on the part of women—you will see examples of that often, such as 'Who set that system up?' [1]. But the truth is, if patriarchy is everywhere, nowhere, historic, present, abstract, embodied, structural, semantic, and spiritual—then what you call patriarchy is no longer a system. It’s a theodicy. This post will likely be water to many of you, but I still felt like writing it, especially because it's a slightly more in-depth examination of this topic, specifically how the concept of "patriarchy" functions, and how it's used by the masses—not as a social theory, but as a theodicy.

To begin, in theology, a theodicy is a justification for why evil exists in a world supposedly governed by a benevolent God. It exists to preserve belief, not to explain reality—it's often illogical and requires mental gymnastics. And that’s exactly how the modern feminist idea of patriarchy functions.

The "patriarchy" is invoked as this invisible, omnipresent, male-dominated power structure that supposedly explains every "hardship" women face—which are typically made-up, exaggerated, and a result of a deliberate misrepresentation of facts and reality. But when men face disproportionate suffering? Somehow, that too is chalked up to “patriarchy”—as if men built a system to oppress themselves. This, to me, is quite frankly such a hilarious concept, and it goes to show how far they are willing to strive in an attempt to avoid accountability and pin all the blame on men. Just blame every single societal ailment on a mysterious "patriarchy" — I suppose that is much easier than addressing the detrimental problems that plague our society, most notably affecting men in particular.

Originally, patriarchy referred to systems where men held overt, legal power over women—think ancient tribes or literal male property ownership—and such systems didn't emerge with the intention of specifically oppressing anybody; it was simply how humans developed, and the system that functioned well. It was a system that also made sense from an evolutionary perspective, and from a general perspective that considers the innate advantages that women possess due to them being the selective sex, so even if we do concede a patriarchy existed, it certainly wasn't the way feminists like to portray it, and women held many advantages even within it, since human nature is inherently gynocentric. From my observations, I also came to the conclusion a form of presentism is occurring here—a projection of present ideas, beliefs, and values upon the past. Presentism essentially describes the phenomenon of fallacious application of modern lens, and a misrepresentation of the past, which inevitably leads to flawed interpretations of past systems and values. Feminist presentism assumes that modern "egalitarian" values are timeless truths, and therefore all deviation from them in the past was necessarily unjust. But historical cultures had different value systems, and their structures can only be understood relative to the constraints, threats, and technologies of the time—but I digress. The point is, today, patriarchy is a slippery term used to describe anything feminists dislike. A woman is catcalled? Patriarchy. A woman is a CEO? Tokenism—still patriarchy. A man is homeless? Patriarchy made him toxic. It’s tautological.

Now that we got the definitions and the premise out of the way—I want to present the concept of epistemological falsification, which is, as introduced by Karl Popper, the principle that a theory can be considered scientific and epistemically sound only if it is testable and potentially falsifiable through empirical observation. This means that a scientific theory must be able to be proven wrong by evidence, not just confirmed. It's a core concept in the philosophy of science, particularly in distinguishing science from non-science. In the case of the patriarchy, at least as purported by the majority of the populace—it is unfalsifiable.

Try to present any counter-evidence, and you'll get absurd mental gymnastics:

  • Male Genital Mutilation is legal and normalized; female genital mutilation is outlawed globally and condemned. — "Still patriarchy; men normalized their own pain to serve toxic masculinity." [2]
  • Men commit suicide at 3–4x the rate of women. — "That’s because men don’t express their emotions, which is caused by... you guessed it, patriarchy." [3, 4]
  • Men make up the vast majority of the homeless. — Ignored. [5]
  • Men dominate the most dangerous and underpaid jobs. — "Because they don’t let women in!" [6]
  • Men get longer sentences for the same crimes, and are less likely to win custody battles. — "Well, women are better caregivers" (funny how the patriarchy is selective in empowering women only when it benefits them). [7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13]
  • Men are more likely to be victims of violence, but get less support. — Silence. [14, 15, 16, 17]
  • Asymmetrical rape laws exclude "forced to penetrate" cases. If a woman forces a man into sex, she often walks away free. — Must have been the patriarchy! [18, 19, 20, 21]
  • Sexual market disparity? Women control it entirely post-sexual revolution. Hypergamy is rampant. Women chase the top percentage of men, leaving millions completely excluded and at a severe disadvantage. — "Men are entitled!"
  • Women drive 80% of consumer spending through their purchasing power and influence. — "That's just because men made them care about shopping!" [22]

At this point, what would falsify the theory? Nothing. That’s the point.

The problem with the modern feminist conception of “patriarchy” is that it has devolved into a theory that absorbs counter-evidence rather than being challenged by it. Anything that is contradictory to the ideas it purports, simply transforms into evidence for it, which is illogical and preposterous. There is no imaginable state of the world that falsifies the theory. And according to Popper, that means it ceases to be science—it becomes pseudoscience.

I would also add that Thomas Kuhn, in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, introduced the idea of paradigms, which are dominant worldviews that define how scientists interpret data. Within a paradigm, anomalies can build up over time, but the system resists change until a paradigm shift occurs.

If we apply Kuhn’s framework here, feminism operates within a patriarchy-as-paradigm framework. Any data about gender must be filtered through it. Even when mounting anomalies appear—e.g., male suicide, sentencing disparities, educational decline in boys—the paradigm remains intact. These aren’t signs the theory is wrong; they’re interpreted as evidence that the patriarchy is just deeper, more insidious, or more internalized than we thought.

Kuhn argued that revolutions occur when the cost of ignoring anomalies exceeds the cost of changing the paradigm. But with patriarchy theory, the opposite happens: the more anomalies appear, the more elaborate the explanations become.

Imre Lakatos refined Kuhn’s ideas by describing research programs, which are theories with a “hard core” that is protected by an adjustable “protective belt” of auxiliary hypotheses.

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In a progressive program, new data leads to predictions and discoveries. In a degenerating program, data is explained away through ad hoc modifications, just to preserve the core belief.

Patriarchy theory is clearly in the degenerating phase:


When women dominate education? “Still patriarchy—schools teach girls to please authority.”

When women have more reproductive power? “It’s still patriarchy—men fear female sexuality.”


If men are structurally privileged, then they must generally benefit more than they suffer from that privilege. Yet no matter what the data shows, the hard core assumption that men created and benefit from a system that oppresses women—remains untouched. And to me, that does not look like growth; rather, it's theological preservationism masquerading as social science.

Before I move on, I'd like to analyze this from opposing viewpoints, as some may argue that I am engaging in scientism—which is, in and of itself, quite rigid, as it's a framework that argues science and the scientific method are the best or only way to render truth about the world and reality. I see it as an old trope—when one's ideological framework can't meet basic evidentiary standards, accuse the critic of scientism. But the truth is, if a theory makes causal claims about society—about outcomes, distributions, structures—it is pretending to be descriptive. And once you claim to describe, you are making empirical claims. You don’t get to assert causality and then escape falsifiability. I don't necessarily believe a system must be material—but must it be coherent? Yes. If you’re calling “patriarchy” a system, and that system produces observable outcomes, then it is subject to the same scrutiny as any other causal explanation. Furthermore, if multiple frameworks claim to explain modern gender structures, we must evaluate which one has the fewest assumptions, the broadest scope, and the greatest predictive value. 'Patriarchy' increasingly requires ad hoc explanations to survive anomalies, whereas gynocentrism or evolutionary reproductive theory, offer a more parsimonious and falsifiable account.

Lastly, I would like to explain these ideas in more detail and analyze common "patriarchal" ideas—and why they fall apart under scrutiny. The truth is, there is no such thing as a patriarchy in the way it is typically portrayed. The so-called patriarchy is better understood as a manifestation of biological differences between men and women. Furthermore, as previously said, the system is better described through a gynocentric lens—one that emerges from human nature, and is amplified by social, cultural, and technological factors.

Let me explain with some examples. Feminists often criticize the objectification of women, yet men are objectified as well. It may be true that women are objectified more frequently in media and entertainment—but why is that? The answer is simple: men tend to enjoy looking at women more than women enjoy looking at men. Generally speaking, men are more visually attracted to women, which is evident in disparities in physical attractiveness ratings between genders [23]. That’s part of the reason why more men consume pornography—because they are more sexually attracted to women and often experience greater unmet sexual desire, since their access to women is typically limited unless they meet the cartoonishly high standards imposed on them. This dynamic is best explained by supply and demand. I would also add that women still consume a considerable amount of porn, especially through different forms such as erotica, which is not exempt from objectification of men and is arguably worse; they are also the primary buyers of sex toys, which are the most direct form of objectification. Moreover, other forms of objectification—such as being reduced to utility—affect men significantly more.

Now consider the question of why there aren’t more women in STEM fields. This, too, likely has biological roots. The truth is, in highly "egalitarian" and feminist countries like Sweden, where people are free to choose their educational paths, the gender gap in STEM fields is even wider than in less progressive nations. This phenomenon is known as the "gender-equality paradox" — a phenomenon that can be explained by the idea that when people are more free to choose, they follow their interests, which may be influenced by innate preferences. Needless to say, gender differences in general and specific types of intelligence are likely another contributing factor. This suggests that the differences are more biological than cultural.

Another frequently asked question is why there are fewer women in politics. A large-scale study found that women, on average, are less interested in politics than men. Interestingly, the gender gap in political interest was wider in developed, modern societies than in developing ones. This demonstrates that fewer women pursue political careers simply because they are less inclined to engage in political activity, and not because of systemic exclusion.


How the 'Patriarchy' Comes Into Play in the Context of Incels — Analysis​

To illustrate the aforementioned concepts clearly and structurally, I present an infographic I came across online—one that directly pertains to the matters at hand, particularly within the context of incels. It refers to the patriarchy as a catch-all—exactly as I said—and attempts to argue much of the suffering we endure, and the views we hold, are a result of it—which is nonsensical.

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It's quite absurd and laughable, as it attempts to frame our "views" of women as ones shaped by the so-called patriarchy—a notion which is demonstrably false—since our views stem from scientific observation of human nature, and the countless bad experiences we have endured in this gynocentric society. The list of problems it presents is also ridiculous, as no rational explanation could tie those to a mysterious patriarchy, and if inquired, they would likely resort to the same tautological explanations to preserve their flawed belief, in order to absolve women of blame, and attribute it to men. Furthermore, this infographic is susceptible to the very same unfalsifiability I have previously discussed, for it attributes all ailments to a patriarchy without offering any reasonable explanation.

Now, I will structurally dismantle the ideas conveyed in this image:

1. "Incels see these as problems caused by women" — this is a blatant misrepresentation of the views we hold; the majority of us do not attribute the entirety of the blame to women—despite their responsibility for a predominant number of problems. In truth, we recognize the multifactorial nature of such problems, which emerge due to a variety of reasons, such as the inherently gynocentric nature of humans, technology, globalism, modern decadence, simps, and more. Moreover, when we do attribute blame to women—and rightfully so—we do so based on observations of their actions, as well as their direct responsibility and complicity in our suffering. If women are hypergamous, privileged, and they dismiss male suffering as irrelevant—blame will inevitably be placed upon them, and that blame would be rational, not misplaced.

2. "Pressure to be hypersexual" — this is biological reality, not an ideology imposed by men. Male sexual drive is higher on average, which is related to evolutionary factors. Moreover, this pressure is actually reinforced by women who ridicule low-status men, shame virgins, and selectively reward hypermasculine behavior in dating markets. If anything, the “pressure to be hypersexual” is part of a female-curated sexual economy, not a male-imposed one.

3. "Loneliness and isolation – not asking for help" — men didn’t sit down and decree, “Let’s suffer quietly forever.” This is a product of natural selection and social role stratification, not a conspiratorial system created to oppress women. Furthermore, all one must do is observe the behavior women exhibit when a man shows vulnerability; it typically ends with mockery, humiliation, and cruel indifference.

4. "Body image insecurities" — If they genuinely think men oppress themselves with unrealistic body standards, they are misidentifying the source of influence. Female hypergamy and mate selection are the cause, and they're not driven by the mythical "patriarchy."

5. "Lack of mental health support and resources" — who is in charge of much of the modern health and education bureaucracy? Who do politicians pander to? Women, the demographic that votes more, consumes more, and dominates sectors like psychology and education.

If we lived in a society truly run by men for male benefit, wouldn't these services be better funded and targeted toward us? Instead, men are demonized, neglected, and expected to "man up." To call a society shaped around female priorities a patriarchy is ludicrous. This is a clear case of gynocentrism.

Moving on to the bottom part:

1. "Seeing encounters with women as transactional" — this is a consequence of modern dating markets, not patriarchy. Men are not crazy to notice that effort doesn’t guarantee reciprocation, and women benefit from immense sexual choice. When you reduce men to utility, don’t act surprised when some begin to expect outcomes from that utility.

2. "Victimhood – 'I was a nice guy, hot girls are just bitches'" — true, but the part about "hot girls" is a strawman. This is a legitimate reaction to a system where men are treated as disposable unless they meet ludicrously high standards, and denied of love and pleasure because of immutable physical traits.

3. "Normalizing violence against women" — in reality, however, incels are one of the least violent groups on earth. The men most likely to normalize violence against women, and also act upon it—are the very men women flock to.

It's also worth mentioning that ironically, violence against men, whether in prisons, war, or relationships, is routinely ignored by these people; it's significantly more normalized and is often minimized. That only serves to strengthen my point—that society is gynocentric, not patriarchal. This perfectly exemplifies the paradigm entrenchment which these people engage in; they filter the data selectively in an attempt to fortify their flawed perception, and to maintain the hard core assumptions of their 'research program.'

4. "Think they’re entitled to sex just because they’re men" — another dishonest generalization. Most men don’t feel entitled to sex; they feel despair at total exclusion. There’s a difference. Furthermore, the vast number of men who attempt self-improvement disproves this notion entirely, for self-improvement is conceptually antithetical to the notion of inherent entitlement.

To conclude, this infographic demonstrates precisely the epistemological issues that I have described; it misrepresents our views, and proceeds to pin all of our problems onto a mystical force called the 'patriarchy.' In truth, however, none of these problems necessitate the existence of that system, and can be explained more parsimoniously through gynocentrism and female privilege.


The Patriarchy is a Religious Dogma​

Much like how the religious explain natural disasters with “God’s mysterious plan,” feminists explain male suffering with “patriarchy hurting men too.” It’s circular, emotionally manipulative, and immune to reason. And its primary purpose is to assign the blame to men, and to free women from the burden of accountability, because if everything is the fault of the 'patriarchy' — everything is men's fault. Such logic is obviously nonsensical, even within its own framework, for it also assumes women are merely passive observers incapable of any ill—which is false. As a matter of fact, it's often women who advocate for, and instill harmful behavior in their male children—the very same behavior that contributes to our suffering, and should be labeled as 'gynocentric', not 'patriarchal'. Some may try to reconcile with the fact that women themselves support the very same structures and behaviors that are described as 'patriarchal' by attributing the blame to the patriarchy, which is tautological reasoning, again—no accountability. The whole thing is just absurd.

This idea that “patriarchy hurts men too” is the favorite feminist failsafe—as if that preserves the coherence of the theory. But this is equivalent to saying “God gives you cancer to test your faith.” It’s not a real explanation. It’s a weak reframing that allows them to claim concern while still preserving the central narrative that men are at fault.

If a theory both privileges and victimizes men—without a clear mechanism or consistent pattern—then what exactly is its predictive value?

The truth is: men hurting doesn’t falsify patriarchy in feminist eyes—in truly absurd fashion, it confirms it. That’s how you know it’s a theodicy. Every data point loops back to the same metaphysical blame.

Sometimes they do attempt to offer falsifiability to it, commonly by referring to political representation and positions of power, but that is, in a sense, an apex fallacy—as it ignores the masses of men who are treated as second class citizens. It also ignores the reality that women hold significant influence over politicians—who often cater specifically to women and their needs, as well as the fact that this disparity could also have biological and evolutionary roots. Furthermore, one should not forget that this is merely shining light on a single power structure, which is solely one among many—social, cultural, sexual, etc.

The modern feminist concept of patriarchy no longer functions as a social theory; it functions as a doctrine of collective guilt. All men are born tainted, whether they benefit from the so-called system or not. It is, in effect, a secular version of original sin: men are inherently suspect, and their very presence in the world is tied to oppression—even if they are homeless, mentally ill, or driven to suicide.

The man who works 12-hour shifts in a freezing meat-packing plant to support a family he will lose in a custody battle? Patriarchy. The boy who fails in a feminized education system designed to reward social compliance over curiosity? Patriarchy. The lonely man who will die alone, unloved, discarded by a hyper-selective sexual marketplace? Patriarchy. The woman who capitalizes on men's loneliness and exploits them through platforms such as OnlyFans? Patriarchy.

How convenient. The same invisible force oppresses women by giving them "too little", and men by giving them too much—of pain, expectation, and burden. It is a moral fail-safe, where no matter who suffers, men are to blame.

But anyone with a functioning brain knows that when a belief system becomes so elastic that it explains everything, it ceases to explain anything.

The truth is, if men actually ran society in a self-serving way—would we allow:


Ourselves to be mutilated at birth?


Ourselves to die in wars we’re drafted into while women are protected?


Ourselves to rot in prison for longer sentences?


Ourselves to be discarded in the dating market based on looks and height?


No. A system that consistently sacrifices men is not a patriarchy. It’s a gynocentric social order under the guise of a purported patriarchy.

In short, the patriarchy—at least in the way it's commonly presented—isn’t a testable, rational framework. It’s an unfalsifiable, theodical belief system designed to preserve a worldview where women are always victims and men are always to blame, regardless of reality.


And like all bad religions, it punishes heretics who point this out.


References and Appendices:
[1] While working on this post, I came across a comment section that echoes the ideas I have expressed perfectly—women and intellectually challenged animals pointing the finger of blame at the 'patriarchy' and at men. The behavior is exactly as I described: the blame is pinned on men, and women are freed of the burden of accountability. All the while, feminist ideology and so-called 'anti-patriarchal' values and actions are nothing more than gynocentrism in disguise. The poster himself fails to understand that the system in question isn’t even what he thinks it is, but the comments are the relevant part anyway.


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So, men are benefiting from MGM being legal? From being the majority of the homeless? The majority of suicides? Being disadvantaged in courts? Facing sexual market disparities? Draft laws? Workplace deaths? Custody settlements? And women being responsible for 85% of consumer spending? That totally sounds like a system that benefits men.

The system does not benefit men in any apparent way, and if probed, she would either resort to tautological reasoning or apex fallacies. In fact, I attempted to confront her—and that’s exactly what she did. She also outright denied statistics that contradicted her dogma.

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It's hilarious how the existence of a patriarchy is automatically assumed yet never questioned. Discarding that flawed assumption, one must understand that women are not merely passive observers incapable of inflicting deleterious harm; in fact, they are dangerous creatures who possess the capability to corrupt society and drive it toward decadence and degradation. This is especially true given their group cohesion and hive-mind behavioral tendencies [24]. The truth is, women are a major force in shaping the current rotten state of affairs, and they hold significant responsibility—which, unfortunately, they will not suffer for. Also, as I have previously stated: this person is utilizing the term patriarchy in a malicious manner with the goal of absolving women of responsibility, for women can't possibly be in the wrong; it must be the patriarchy.

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This is truly the peak of women's logic here.

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You heard her, guys! These are the actions we must take to dismantle the so-called 'patriarchy.' Seriously, this is downright laughable, and I find it hard to believe someone wrote this list seriously. All of the things listed here are merely ways to reinforce an already gynocentric society, and it would be foolish to engage in any of these cucked activities. Furthermore, the last part is not just naïve—it’s utterly delusional.

Let me be perfectly clear: no amount of pandering or self-sacrifice will make women “advocate for men” in any meaningful, systemic way. The idea that women will return favors simply because men support their ridiculous causes is a fantasy rooted in wishful thinking and delusion. This reply is exactly what I previously described: advocacy for further gynocentrism and female supremacy under the guise of fighting "patriarchal values" — and unfortunately, many men fall victim to this nonsense.
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[2] To me, male genital mutilation, also known as circumcision, is truly one of the most detestable, abhorrent, and barbaric practices which persists in modern society. It is nothing short of appalling that a society that preaches morality, civility, and so-called empathy allows such a morally repugnant violation of human rights to occur. How anyone can justify the purposeless mutilation of a body part that evolved for a reason and serves multiple biological functions is beyond me. Studies have been conducted regarding the downsides of circumcision, most notably, reduced penile sensitivity—caused by the removal of special nerve endings and the keratinization of the mucous membrane. Keratinization refers to the natural reaction of the sensitive inner skin and glans of the penis to exposure to air, and friction with underwear—which is caused by the lack of protection that the foreskin is meant to offer.
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[3] WISQARS Leading Causes of Death
[4] Freeman, A., Mergl, R., Kohls, E. et al. A cross-national study on gender differences in suicide intent. BMC Psychiatry 17, 234 (2017). https://doi.org/10.1186/s12888-017-1398-8
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I cited the study about suicidal intent, as it demonstrates a pattern of behavior which many of us were likely aware of: that women's intent is generally not as serious as men's, and is typically a result of attention seeking behavior. Furthermore, these findings poke holes in the feminist notion that women attempt suicide at higher rates, since it is based on the erroneous assertion that intent is equivalent in all cases, and it doesn't take into account the effectiveness of the chosen method.

[5] Annual Homeless Assessment Report (AHAR)
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In addition to the disparity in the number of homeless people—men are unfortunately more likely to be unsheltered, which further exemplifies the apparent female advantage in the modern gynocentric landscape:

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[6] Worker Injuries and Illnesses by Sex
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[7] 2023 Demographic Differences in Federal Sentencing
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[8] Gender Differences in the Sentencing of Felony Offenders

[9] 5/6 Male UK Prisoners would be free if they were Women
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This came to my attention after @GeckoBus made his fantastic thread about the topic, and is particularly relevant to the issues I have discussed. If you have yet to read it, I'd highly advise you do so, as it breaks down many issues that plague the modern societal landscape, while also being pertinent to further matters I will go over:
[10] Embry, R., & Lyons, P. M. (2012). Sex‑based sentencing: Sentencing discrepancies between male and female sex offenders. Feminist Criminology, 7(2), 146–162. https://doi.org/10.1177/1557085111430214
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[11] Nearly 80% of custodial parents are mothers, while fathers make up only about 20%
[12] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/womens-justice-board-begins-plans-to-send-fewer-women-to-prison
[13] Sánchez, Pina, and Louise Harris. Sentencing Gender? Investigating the Presence of Gender Disparities in Crown Court Sentences. University of Leeds, 2020. https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/154388/

[14] Homicide Statistics by Gender

[15] While looking into this topic, I came across this ludicrous feminist drivel, which is a hallmark of what I discussed in this post:


First off, the claim that women experience more repeated and severe abuse is based on police reports and survey data, which are flawed due to underreporting bias—especially when it comes to male victims. Multiple studies show that male victims often underreport abuse due to societal stigma, disbelief, or fear of being mocked. When men do report, they are less likely to be taken seriously or supported. It is only a natural outcome that a disparity in the statistics would emerge, since we live in a highly gynocentric landscape.

And what I really wanted to mention is the nonsensical claim that male violence against women is different because it is “rooted in structural inequality”. This is not an empirical argument; it is a circular ideological assertion. It does not withstand epistemological scrutiny, particularly under Popperian falsifiability. They define the structure as male-dominated, then attribute all male misbehavior to it, and then use that behavior as evidence for the structure. It's the very same tautological reasoning I have previously discussed.

You cannot empirically test whether coercion arises from "patriarchal structure" unless you first demonstrate that such a structure exists, in material terms, and show causality. But as I already argued, feminists do not demonstrate causal mechanisms between societal power structures and individual acts of abuse. They instead assert it axiomatically, which is pseudoscientific by definition.

Furthermore, the claim that “men do not experience domestic abuse as part of embedded, structural inequalities against their sex” is demonstrably false if we look at institutional responses:

  • Shelters for male victims are nearly nonexistent, while many exist for women.
  • Police often arrest the man even when he is the victim, due to “primary aggressor” policies.
  • Legal bias in courts overwhelmingly favors women in abuse allegations and custody.
  • Societal perception ridicules male victims or denies their experiences outright.

If this isn’t embedded inequality, what is?

This system not only ignores male suffering; rather, it actively invalidates and delegitimizes it. In other words: the system is structurally anti-male. That directly contradicts the claim of a “patriarchal” system that advantages men at women's expense.

And just as previously outlined: the argument assumes female innocence and male guilt—akin to the original sin doctrine.
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[16] Statistics on Male Victims of Domestic Abuse
[17] Women Match or Exceed Men in Relationship Aggression
[18] https://www.justice.gov/archives/ovw/blog/updated-definition-rape

I’m sure many of you are well aware of the asymmetry in the legal definition of rape, which excludes made-to-penetrate cases. This leads to a statistical disparity that is frequently used to demonize men while minimizing their experiences. Putting aside my personal views on the subject, it’s clear there is an ongoing injustice and a lack of fairness in determining who is recognized as a victim. Those of you who read the Wiki are likely aware of the CDC’s findings on this issue, which show that under fair definitions, men and women both rape and are raped at similar rates—at least within the past 12 months. The lifetime figures reveal a disparity, though that may be due to generational changes such as the millennial shift and other contributing factors. Furthermore, lifetime prevalence statistics have been challenged because of their susceptibility to inaccuracies:


I must emphasize just how malicious the use of the skewed statistics of rape truly is—utilized to vilify men, and to paint them as animalistic simians that are the primary perpetrators of rape, when ironically, this misrepresentation of facts only serves to prove the gynocentrism within our society, and the immense privilege women hold. It is quite telling that very few studies on made-to-penetrate rape exist, as that would significantly undermine the narrative they cling to.
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[19] Stemple, L., Flores, A., & Meyer, I. H. (2017). Sexual victimization perpetrated by women: Federal data reveal surprising prevalence. Aggression and Violent Behavior, 34, 302–311.
[20] Caricati, L., Baldini, S., & Bonetti, C. (2023). Female‑to‑Male Sexual Assault: The Role of the Perpetrator’s Attractiveness and Attributed Emotional States on Victim Blame. Violence and Victims, 38(3), 396–413.
[21] https://gwern.net/doc/sociology/2021-dimarco.pdf
[22] Statistics on the Purchasing Power of Women Women and Global Spending

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So women basically dictate the economy, control the narrative, hold the purse strings, and still somehow men are "privileged"? This is what a gynocentric society looks like. And yet they still play the victim card like they’re oppressed. How do you control most of the spending and wealth in a country and still act like society is stacked against you?
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[23] Costa, M., & Maestripieri, D. (2023). Physical and psychosocial correlates of facial attractiveness. Evolutionary Behavioral Sciences, 19(2), 165–176. https://doi.org/10.1037/ebs0000331
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[24] The in-group bias of women is another topic I would like to bring forth, as it is a crucial aspect of the subject of gynocentrism, and it grants us the opportunity to better understand female nature, as well as the inherent advantages they possess, and the biases inherent to their psychology. To put it simply, the minds of women are governed by an in-group bias that is 4.5 times stronger than that of men, which is truly disturbing—albeit not surprising. These findings demonstrate a perspicuous reality: women are more likely to favor each other and show increased preference for the well-being of other women—as opposed to men, who do not exhibit a similar bias. In fact, men are more likely to favor women, extol them, and idealize them. This dynamic can clearly be seen in the intrasexual behavior of both sexes, where men are in a perpetual state of competing with each other vehemently, while women exhibit such behavior noticeably less.
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To quote @GeckoBus, who put it very nicely:

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I must admit—this post is far longer than I originally intended for it to be (even after trimming it significantly), and I highly doubt many of you will read it, but for what it's worth, I enjoyed writing about this topic.

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The author critiques the mainstream feminist use of the term patriarchy, arguing it functions more like a theodicy (a belief system that explains all suffering) than a falsifiable social theory. They claim the term is used to blame men universally while absolving women of responsibility, often ignoring or dismissing male suffering. Referencing philosophers like Karl Popper, Thomas Kuhn, and Imre Lakatos, the author argues that modern feminism’s concept of patriarchy lacks scientific rigor and cannot be falsified, making it pseudoscientific. They propose that biological, evolutionary, and gynocentric explanations provide more coherent accounts of gender dynamics and inequalities.




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The author argues that the contemporary feminist idea of “patriarchy” has become a catch-all explanation for every social issue, especially those affecting women, while ignoring or reframing issues that affect men. They compare the term to a theological theodicy—an unfalsifiable belief system used to justify suffering rather than to describe reality.


They assert that whenever data contradicts the idea of patriarchy (e.g., higher male suicide rates, harsher sentencing for men, homelessness, education gaps), feminists either ignore the data, reinterpret it as further evidence of patriarchy, or blame men for their own suffering. This, according to the author, makes the theory tautological and immune to falsification, violating Popper’s principle of scientific falsifiability.


Using Kuhn’s theory of paradigms and Lakatos' research programs, the author claims that patriarchy theory is a degenerating research program that keeps adding ad hoc explanations to protect its core assumptions, rather than adjusting in light of evidence.


They also critique the feminist interpretation of history as presentist, arguing that historical gender roles were adaptive, not oppressive. Finally, they offer alternative frameworks—like evolutionary psychology, biological sex differences, and gynocentrism—to explain phenomena such as objectification, gender gaps in STEM, and political interest, which they claim are better supported by data and logic.

Thank u mr gpt
 
Feminism is the cult they often accuse us of being, as shown in this thread feminists blame everything bad that has every happened to anybody in the modern world as result of the "Patriarchy". Instead of worshipping a god they worship an idea and they do so because that idea gives them an excuse for all their failings. But isn't that the blackpill? No! because the blackpill only explains our failings when it comes to relationships/sex not our entire lives, the blackpill is also often "battle tested" by it's users Many incels including myself have spoken about our genuine attempts to get into relationships but still failing to do so, There is not a single feminist who is well versed feminist theory that has for example may a genuine attempt to climb the corporate leader to become a CEO.
:yes:

Exactly—feminism is a cult, and the modern conception of “patriarchy” is its sacred text. Ironically, these people often pride themselves on being individualists who reject religion, yet their beliefs are not that different from religious dogma. The entire function of patriarchy theory in mainstream discourse is to offload every personal or systemic shortcoming onto an invisible male boogeyman.

I would also add that the blackpill offers far more avenues for falsifiability, unlike their unfalsifiable narrative, thus making it more practical and predictive.
 
must-read now, for effort and presentation alone. If I could edit my old masculinity thread after the fact, I would have also added much more data to the 4.5 claim, because since them multiple other studies confirming it have entered my radar screen. Most recently this one, which I got from the shield for men YT channel, credit where credit is due.: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202503.1307/v1
Appreciate that, truly. Threads like yours laid the groundwork for what I wanted this post to be. And thanks for sharing that; I am always interested in new data about this topic. It should be front-page news, yet not a whisper. Funny how only our side even looks at this stuff.

All in all a bombshell thread, the type of shit that me me join here in the first place. I also love the inclusion of kuhnian paradigm thinking and would also encourage you to look into things like "the two dogmas of empiricism," the duhem-quine thesis and wilfrid sellars "myth of the given." Not for intellectual masturbation but because I think these are genuinely helpful in analyzing texts and perception. The is/ought distinction also is a massive one. Just look into all the perennial problems of philosophy and apply them in daily life, like problem of induction and deduction, problem of the criterion, problem of epistemic bootstrapping, munchhausen trilemma, problem of universals, problem of identity over time etc.
I’ve touched on some in passing, and you’re right that their strength lies in applying them to daily life; ever since I delved into this topic, my perception of life and of the things I come across has shifted significantly. Even the “problem of universals” ties into the whole patriarchy debate if you treat “male privilege” as a universal abstraction, then every particular counterexample just gets waved off as “still part of the system.”

Also, try to avoid nihilism, I don't think it makes a lot of sense for one and is self-contraditory. There are pre-conditions for experience and intelligibility and these are identical across all worldviews, by impossibility of the contrary

(denying the existence of numbers for example as mind-independent universals leads to destruction of entire worldview, since you need at least once and two to make distinctions between anything, and without distinction, no evaluation -> everything is one -> modal collapse -> self contradiction. Ethically too - why ought we value truth and be truthful? why should we do anything at all? Without objective grounding, you can't defend your worldview. Appealing to consequentalism just begs question why the consequences you define matter etc)

Here ae some links. The first one is an intelligent fellow who highlights evidence that brains can not be storing memory, with empirical reference. The second link is to the website of an orthodox christian deacon, professor ananias sorem, who teaches logic at a university. I am not trying to convert you, I just think that studying presuppositional appologetics on a high level gets you super in touch with meta-level philosophical reasoning, which is helpful across the board. The last link is a paper critiquing the uncritical use of statistics as a measure of scientific validity and how it has gotten out of hand in the last 70 years, contributing to issues such as the decline effect and the replication crisis.

carroll.academia.edu/ErikSorem
I will certainly look into these.

All of this is tremendously helpful in understanding how people think, why arguments don't work and how to dissect their claims, which are full of fallacies, even in published papers, such as conflations of is and ought claims (fact-value collapse), category errors, reification of constructs like patriarchy, supposed incel violence etc. For example in one paper stupid clown asked me to review, they came up with a quantitative measure to determine the danger level of online manosphere persons. Completely absurd, since quantification and ethics are different categories, so this is a clear violaton of the is-ought distinction and a blatant category error.
Exactly. "Patriarchy," "toxic masculinity," "incel violence"—all reified constructs. They treat these abstract labels as if they’re natural phenomena, then retroactively invent metrics to "measure" them. It's academic cargo cultism.

This shit is absurd :feelskek:

These people literally think they are describing reality in a neutral way, which is completely retarded and naive realism at its finest. There is no such thing as a value neutral description of reality. The very idea presupposes "reality" as this independent category aside from human perception that is just self affirming and obvious. How would you know this though, epistemically? You can't, you immediately run into classic humian skepticism. So their claims really default to soft power and violence, they just assert their view of reality as objective using some macguffin as justification, backed by their own authority (academic credential for example). This is no different than a priest reading the entrails of a goat and interpreting a peasants dream for him. The authority of the priest mixed with the pseudo-methodology of reading the entrails provides the justification. But ultimately the priest is just appealing to himself as mediator between the "higher reality" which the peasant can not know, and the foggy, messy reality of the peasant.

The priests also make sure to remind the peasants all the time that they do not have the ability to reason for themselves because they "are not priests" and therefore can not read the entrails of goats correctly. In a similar fashion, people that critique incels often do so from an ivory throne, never stooping to the level of the incels they study. We are like rats, to be distantly observed, but never directly confronted, engaged with. They look at us like noble fucks peeking through their gawdy spectacles at the stage and exchanging whispered nothings with fellow elites, while the performers sweat dribbles from their underfed bodies and seeps into the grimy stage boards. We are subjects, not human beings.
Couldn't have said it better.

Oh sure, they will tell you, we let the evidence guide us, or some humbug like that. It's no different from some religious scholar sayng the text speaks for itself. As if the evidence is self-interpreting. Again, all of this is just a circular appeal to their own authority. Incels are violent, because we define violence a certain way, and then we interpret what we define as incels to fit what we define as violence and terrorism, therefore incels are objectively violent and dangerous. This is academic schizophrenia, like the psychotic, they listen to the white noise of a radio and hear what they want. Oh Charles, the voices, the voices! They tell me these eeeevil men want to kill all wommen! Oh the humanity!
It's an epistemic ouroboros.

Such is the gynocrat in his deluded head, fashioning himself a cage and calling it a palace while mischievously oogling anyone who dare disagree.
Beautifully worded. These people dress up their ideological prisons in gold filigree and call it enlightenment.
 
This is great debooooonk boyo :feelsstudy: more truthful and pertinent than decades of academia all over the world :feelskek:
 
Feminism is a reoccurence of gnosticism, stripped down to the abstract and then injected into sex and gender like a virus, with the demiurge and the prison world it created being replaced with the label of "patriarchy".
 
Good thread bro, normies would never touch this it genuinely fucking pisses me off that if we were to state these facts irl we'd be shutdown and censored.
 
bro I'm gonna read it.

I am a chronic coomer and my prefrontal cortex has been destroyed by coom, but I'm gonna read it because it's interesting, already read the first paragraphs
I appreciate it :feelscomfy:
 
Feminism is a dogmatic religion. Bonobos practice child molestation and aggressive males (aka the complete opposite of high inhibition incels) are still more likely to reproduce in their matriarchical societies. Aggression is still rewarded in non patriarchies or at the very least heavily incentivized. If they knew basic facts about anthropology then they'd know their ideology premised on blaming men for everything wrong with the world is blatantly false and not supported by any cursory glance of the available evidence and data. But these people live in echochambers and will never step outside of their cult.
:yes:

Their entire ideology is built to blame men for everything, and women for nothing; they don't care at all about facts, and how reality contradicts their dogmatic narrative.
 
This is a phenomenal thread. A very eloquent and insightful read. :feelsautistic:
:feelsYall:

This is great debooooonk boyo :feelsstudy: more truthful and pertinent than decades of academia all over the world :feelskek:
Thanks man. Academia, peer-reviewed or not, has essentially become a cathedral of self-reinforcing ideology at this point.

:yes::yes::yes: Put it in must read.

I just finished it, had to read in parts cause i'm busy and it's so long :ha..feels: but not a single letter is superfluous
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Good thread bro, normies would never touch this it genuinely fucking pisses me off that if we were to state these facts irl we'd be shutdown and censored.
Thanks brocel. Unfortunately they don't care about truth; it’s all about preserving the narrative at all costs.
 
Feminism is a reoccurence of gnosticism, stripped down to the abstract and then injected into sex and gender like a virus, with the demiurge and the prison world it created being replaced with the label of "patriarchy".
Yep, that's a good comparison. Feminism is just secularized and reframed through the lens of gender :bigbrain:
 
Thanks man. Academia, peer-reviewed or not, has essentially become a cathedral of self-reinforcing ideology at this point.
:yes: That's why i find your thread to be legit groundbreaking, how tf could feminist interlocutors deny that you made very good points here ? And how is it possible that generations of men in academia or in higher echelons of society in general left us completely defenseless against such a toxic cultural force ?

I'm always disgusted at the collusion of acacemic feminism, pop feminism and average women in between. I cant believe that even smart women in academia or average women without a horse in the race lack the insight or the good faith to see how malicious it all is, that's why i lost a lot of respect for women.

Sure some will play the moderate and scold those "radical" feminists but they'll act as if they were limited to some 70's harpies or the ukrainian Femen, meanwhile it's the whole mainstream culture (social institutions, enterntainment institutions, government institutions) that promote this bullshit in unison. :feelspuke:
 
@SmhChan Great read but brace yourself for the lenght :feelsstudy:
 
Seems like a great thread, I will be reading later!
 
IT will never touch this. They will instead make a post on some shizo here saying he wants to shoot up a school or something
 
Apparently, this guy is some sort of a whistleblower. I don't know how to feel about this article. By the end, in the following two sections, The Deep Biological Basis of the High Salience in Implicit Bias of Sex and of This Being Anti-Male and Pro-Female and Anti-Male Prejudice Is Mediated by Male Hierarchy, he ends up justifying anti-male bias because muh genes. In the end, it just devolved into pretentious evo-psycho bs and advocacy for polygyny, which ironically increases the likelihood of genetic disorders.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170726-the-polygamous-town-facing-genetic-disaster
Here ae some links. The first one is an intelligent fellow who highlights evidence that brains can not be storing memory, with empirical reference.
I went through several blogs on this site. Very interesting stuff. Basically, it argues (with irrefutable examples) the brain has very little (if anything) to do with our cognitive abilities. If you so choose to respond, I'd like to know how this fits in the grander narrative of your comment about how people think.
 
@SmhChan Great read but brace yourself for the lenght :feelsstudy:
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...hool-admits-changing-results-to-exclude-women

I found this the other day. You know just an example like this by feminists is enough to counter all the debunking high-effort users do of patriarchy and oppression of foids. Such a quality post does validate our sufferings, feels cathartic to read, and we can boast about having community members with such literary flairs, but nothing beyond that.
 
I went through several blogs on this site. Very interesting stuff. Basically, it argues (with irrefutable examples) the brain has very little (if anything) to do with our cognitive abilities. If you so choose to respond, I'd like to know how this fits in the grander narrative of your comment about how people think.
Same guy also runs this blog:

This is also interesting IMO:

In terms of how people think and how that blog contributes to my view on people.
I grew up with unstable people. This instilled me with distrust in pretty much anything. I am not intelligent, I failed academically, was homeless and need social workers to assist me. I have been on a search for stable foundations for years now. On that journey I discovered philosophical stuff and ways of questioning things. This helped a lot at first and made it easier to sift through claims and worldviews at rapid speed. The blog is part of that ongoing development. I am interested in worldviews and blogs like that undermine specific worldviews that are taken for granted, like the naturalistic-materiallistic presuppositional worldview, where everything is assumed to be matter in motion, resulting from accident. I always look for evidence and arguments that undermine positions, either ones I hold myself or ones I encounter. That's how I found that blog.


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I can not say completely how people think. In order to say that concretly I would have to make high confidence claims about the origin and function of knowledge. I can't not say how we acquire or retain knowledge. That blog suggests that it is not stored materially, which is an easy case to make even absent the examples he gave. Physical things do not store information, that's a classic philosophy freshman lesson. If I exterminate all representations of the number seven, the number seven does not cease to exist. So there is information that exists mind indepently and also independtly of it's infinite possible representations. Even if we could identify neural structures in the brain that represent the number seven, these would merely be representations and not identical to the number seven.

Numbers, as I mentioned in my other reply, have to exist mind independently, or the universe would not be possible. There could not be ONE universe or any categories, since you need at least TWO things to have distinction, individuation at all. So even finding representations of numbers in the brain would not imply that numbers are in the brain. In fact the idea that ideas only exist in brains would lead to the impossibility of knowing anything at all, since the entire external world is dependent on mind-independent concepts, and if all concepts are merely in the mind, then you can not know the external world anymore.

And if you are consistent with the idea that conceptual representations in the brain are merely imprints of sensory experiences, as neurologists claim, then you have a big problem now. If you can not know whether the external world isn't just your imagination, then how can you know your internal world is true, if you claim it is informed by the external world. Thus we end up with humian skepticism.
As it says in one of the PDF's I linked ("The Contingency of Knowledge and Revelatory Theism"):

Hume took Berkeley ’s rigorous empiricism a step further and demonstrated that just as there is no
empirical basis for belief in an external material world as the cause of our perceptions, there is no empirical
basis for belief in an internal mental world either. He pointed out that since our experience is limited to our
perceptions, there is nothing in our experience to indicate that the origin of our perceptions is either a
material substance or a mental substance.

Therefore, any substantive affirmation beyond perception is
empirically unjustified. The external world, whether mental or material, is empirically un-demonstrable a
nd analytically unnecessary. It is a mere metaphysical speculation. As a matter of habit we may continue to
believe in it, but it is nothing more than an unjustified dogma. He destroys here all naturalistic justification
for belief in an external world.

He then turns his empirical gun on the internal world. He points out that our notion of our selves as a
substance that continues to receive perceptions is yet another unsubstantiated postulation. Among our
perceptions we never perceive the self as the perceiver of our perceptions. He destroys here all
autonomous rational justification for the notion of the self as an entity independent of a collection of
perceptions.

Skepticism of this kind is petty simple to get, it does not explain however, how humans understand reality or operate at all. I can only say, as Aristotle and Kant did (I have read neither), that there are essential presuppositions, transcendental categories, that have to exist out of necessity, the proof being the impossibility of the contrary. A simple one is "being." Something has to exist, the contrary is impossible and self refuting ("nothing exists"). There are many such categories and they correspond to the perrenial problems of philosophy, which have never been solved. These transcendental categories also undermine worldviews that auto-terminate in brute monism, such as strong materialism. The blog touches on that when he points out that thoughts, ideas and concepts can not be grounded in matter.

Kant famously said that it was Hume who "woke him from his dogmatic slumber." He subsequently tried to answer hume and solve all the issues Hume raised, unsuccessfuly. In fact the entire philosophical tradition of the last 300 years can roughly be understood as a series of unsuccessful responses to Humes criticisms of autonomous epistemology. Some go as far as saying that Hume killed epistemology.

In their attempts to escape the traps of total skepticism, philosophers just found more and more reasons to be skeptical and critique everything, while never finding any concrete answers. One recent attempt, and this is the main charge of the PDF I quoted, is that you can escape the pit by abandoning autonomous epistemology altogether and instead reverting to theonmous epistemology. Basically modified Platonism. I was partial to this for many years but at this point idk anymore. There are issues there too.

The things I have read and, if I understood them correctly, help me to understand people more, how they operate, form judgements. I see people holistically now, everyone is a sort of self-contained worldview operating system, complete with epistemological views, a metaphysic, an ethical framework and so forth. People self-determine internally their standards for coherency, valdity, what they accept as evidence in what contexts etc. I can look at them and myself like I am studying a religion now. Everyone is religious to the maximum degree, we are all zealots and none have answers. For example when you look at women, they have certain worldview presuppositions about truth, meaning, when something is important and when not (value judgements). Some of these seem innate, some of them seem acquired through social conditioning of values through basic pain-pleasure experiences (neotenous faces are more pleasurale to look at, which then causes shit like the notorious female auto-eroticism, where they are attracted to their own fucking face and gender).

So that's roughly where that blog finds itself in my head. It is a node in a network of interconnected data points. I keep adding to that network, hoping to somehow arrive at a solid foundation that isn't just will to power and impressing myself onto a reality I can not even know exists. If reality is just my interpretation, then my impressing of myself really would just be me impressing myself onto myself, which is hilarious. Total self-fuck while thinking I am somehow enlightened. Anyway, so far adding more nodes to the network has only increased my ability to be skeptical of nearly everything ever. I am somewhat certain of an afterlife, continuation of personhood after death, but I have zero justifications for ethical claims, specific historic traditions etc. At this point I probaly have to start my own mystery religion.

I am not the first to arrive here either. Historically, christianity (in particualr orthodox christianity), platonism and others reached the point where rational investigation became impossible and then continued through apophatic and cataphatic theology. Describing that which is beyond rationality via dialetical affirmations and negations (i.e. "god is the ground of all being, but god is also beyond being"). This is the basis for many mystery religions. When you reach the end of rationaliization, all that's left is participation, knowledge beyond words that can only be understood through experience. Hence they developed methodologies like meditation, trance inductions, hesychasm (repeatetive prayer and rythmic breathing) etc.

They usually combine this with some sort of ethical system, which they just pull out of their ass, since ethical laws can not be arrived at on any level intellectually (like dietary rules for example). Aside maybe from the most basic shit like "truth is valuable." I really don't know where to go from here. I am just trapped in a cage where I can gradually see more and more of the bars (my own presuppositions), but I can't get out. I can only gain more awareness of the cage bars and then meditate on how I am fucked and never getting out of this. I will not committ suicide either, it would be pointless. My issue is not limited to this world, it would just continue in the next. I woul just turn into a ghost that breaks his head over 3000 year old philosophical riddles that can not be answered. Good riddance.

The primary reason, as I said in the beginning of this reply, why this matters to me is not logical. Not that there are logical reasons for value judgements anyway, but its rather just that I grew up with instability and hence I am instable, like an apple without a core. Most people live and die just fine never thinking about any of this shit, which is also a question I asked myself, how they do that. It's basically just experience. They get treated better their entire life, hence they have less existential fear and so they don't ask existential questions. When I realized this, I began exploring value judgements more and more, behaviorist psychology etc. That is where I am currently at. I want to know how people acquire values, defend them and if people can change their own values at all, myself included. Could I make myself hate something or love something on command? What about this whole existential journey, which is likely to lead nowhere? Can I alter my own values and just give it up?

The blog, see, I have not forgotten about you kek, the blog is part of that. Most worldviews are self-conforming feedback loops, some shit straight out of cybernetic theory. We just seek out stuff that confirms what we already believe, value wise. Everything we focus attention on is confirmation bias driven. Nothing is not confirmation bias. There is always a multitude of options we can focus on mentally and in the world, and we pick only a few out of the many options. Based on what criteria and where did we get those criteria? I think we already have them, from experience. So we just get stuck in these self-confirmatory loops for decades until we die.

For me is skepticism, constant skepticism. It confirms to me this inherented belief that nothing is trustworthy, which paradoxically gives me a feeling of saftey, which is a cope I developed because my family was instable and so I became comfortable not trusting anything. The blog is part of that. When I found it, it gave me profound joy. I keep coming back to it every so often, because it affirms my existing values, makes me feel good. In behaviorist psychology they identified this behavior pattern. Like animals returning to a waterhole, we return to sources of value-affirmation. We re-watch movies or listen to the same music. When we dont do that for a while, the associated feeling or value undergoes attriction, they call it extinction. This is painful and reminds us to go back and top off our feelings. Similar to hunger and eating. We try to get back to internal homeostasis, physically and mentally.

When an extinction has progressed far, there is this thing called exctinction outbursts. We all know this. Its when you go on a diet and on day three, you have this outburst of binge eating shit food. This also happens with other values we have. In management for companies they apply these ideas too, for example they teach managers about "change curves." Basically when you make changes, employees will go through stages like I already described. First there is resistance, then fighting back, then negotiation and so forth, concluding in acceptance.

Like I said, for me, it's things like that blog, or this incels.is. I have no business being here, it adds nothing to my life, I want to move on. But I keep coming back, fully aware of what I am doing, like an addict. It gives me comfort, even though I know it is illogical. I want to break out of this loop, not be a victim of my own value framework anymore. But this is hard. You essentially have to become a pseudo-psychopath who uses his own values instrumentally. Idk if I can do that.

Regardless, all of this applies to other people as well of course. I mentioned earlier, everyone is a zealot. Everyone I interact with, including myself, is stuck in this little religous system with dogmatic axioms, ethics, values, rituals, modes of worship and so forth. As was alluded to in my old thread on why you can not blackpill people, it is not so much an intellectual issue as it is a worldview issue. They understand our arguments and acknowledge them perfectly if the context is changed ("pretty privilige," "racism"). So values are more important than the information itself. The reason why they cant engage with us and give our side a fair shot is simply a conflict of value judgements, and since value judgements are not rationally justifable without appealing to faith, circular reasoning or infinite regress, the entire thing defaults to will to power and violence, soft and hard power. So they are basically just bashing us while claiming moral superiority lmao. When you start seeing people like that, you stop making arguments. You start thinking more as if you are talking to a committed moslem or some cult member. How would you talk to them? By making arguments? Pointless.

At this point you arrive at another conclusion: Values are always transmitted by coercion, violence, force, authority, and always top down, never sideways or bottom up. The people that attack us get their values from authority above them. This authority can be group consensus, academic superior, parents, listening to their wife or girlfriend, employer etc. It can even be natural forced imposing values on people like the rain making you wet and cold, which is uncomfortable, so you adopt a new value, which is to avoid rain next time.

So in terms of values, there is always a hierachy. But only people or things (like the rain in my example) that are above others in terms of power can define rules and regulations for those below, while not being bound by the same rules they make up ("do as I say, not as I do," "rules for thee but not for me"). This applies in all hierachies. The values are then enforced on the people lower in the hierachy through coercion, soft power or hard power. Censoring incels off the internet is such an example. They do it not because they are right - remember there are no logically right or wrong values, just as numbers can not be right or wrong - they just do it because they have certain values and they have the power to enforce them, so they do. People only punch down, never up.

This whole thing brings up really interesting questions, such as, why does the placebo effect only work if its a doctor giving the patient a pill? Why can the patient not indude the placebo effect in himself, absent an authority figure telling him what to believe? I mentioned this in my other reply, there has to be an authority, a sort of pseudo-methodology like entrail reading, and then the victim will believe it. But people are afraid of making up their own values and then sticking to them. They have to get them from authorities. They cant just go, hmm, how about I think I feel better, so I feel better, no placebo pills or doctors needed. Even when people get benefits from meditation or similar practises, they often outsource the benefits to some external thing, like oh, I feel the warm light, or, I feel this connection to the world energy bla bla bla. Very fascinating stuff.

I arrived at all of this after thinking about the consequences of being strict with the is/ought distinction issue that Hume raised. If no values, or prescriptions can be arrived at from descriptions, if pulling an "is" from and "ought" is like drawing water from a stone, then people are literally just running around like its the bronze age, there is literally no difference - "and there was no king in israel in this time, and every man did what was right in his own eyes." There is no functional difference betwen monarchy, demoracy, anarchy. They are all identical on a value level. People just have feelings and then preach them to the world through coercion, violence against themselves and others. I do it, we do it. We all do it all the time. I am doing it right now. I write this super long text, and I expect you to read it. Why? I felt bad not responding. That's violence against myself. I am subjugating myself to an arbitrary rule I picked up experientially at some point my life, probably because my dad would get violent if I didnt respond in time to him and shit. It gave me duty mindset where I have to serve others and it translates into making posts online.

Similarility, why should I be skeptical of everything? Why should I care about what happens after death? Why should I be afraid? There is a tribe that does not believe in a negative afterlife, so they primarily die by suicide. Examples like this hint that even things like fear of death are culturally mediated. This is what I mean by the cage bars I mentioned. I can see more and more, like the Apostle Paul in the bible, "now we see through a glass darkly, but then face to face." But the more I see the more I realize my own shortcomings. All I have left is submission and hope - and that's where that mystery religoin stuff comes in I mentioned earlier. What's left? I walk through a world that is no different than the land of Canaan in the old testament. Iron chariots deliver wares to the house across at 3AM. There are prostitutes. Technology changes nothing, everything is just a reiteration of some old shit. I used to carve with stylus on wax, now I type pictograms representing sounds and they appear on a tablet in front of me, chissled onto LCD crystal that instant.

That's where I stand right now. I listen to people, let them talk. I quietly analyze their thoughts and mine at the same time. Everything falls so neatly into categories. People always bring the same beliefs to the table. Eschatology ("ww3 is coming"), some story of a golden age, a silver and a bronze age (thx ovid, piece of shit). Stories of the dark ages, or the coming utopia. People pick up words and concepts, like in ancient times when they refered to concepts by anthropological representations. Even ancient historians knew the gods were just names for principles:

Plutarch writes: "The wiser of the priests call not only the Nile Osiris and the sea Typhon, but they simply give the name of Osiris to the whole source and faculty creative of moisture, believing this to be the cause of generation and the substance of life- producing seed; and the name of Typhon they give to all that is dry, fiery, and arid, in general, and antagonistic to moisture. 9"

This is just one example of dozens where Plutarch makes the argument that these gods were never meant to be seen as actual beings, but were symbols of social significance. To “worship” them is tantamount to expressing loyalty to one's civilizational constitution. The human mind seems to have a natural inclination to personalize everything.

What Gods do we have now? The DSM-5 could rightly be called a whole pantheon of make-believe entities, reified into concrete objects to be adored, respected ("you are an abelist reeee" "dont kink shame mee"). I don't care if they call it Zeus or Borderline Personality Disorder, same shit to me. Out time is no more mythological than the past, we just dont experience it that way, just for the same reasons as the ancients did not see themselves as deluded. We are the ancients of generations to come. They will lol at us and the shit we believed.

That blog, to bring up yet again for the god knows how manieth time, it's part of that for me. I deconstruct, I try to spot patterns. It is not that the beliefs of neurologists are wrong or that brains dont make minds, it's that neurology has features of religious belief, heck, that in fact the very distinction between secular and religious is completely arbitrary the more you look at it. Everything is ritual, every day is just a chain of repetitive motions. Everyone champions a new form of orthodoxy, "the true believing." The final stage in any cult indoctrination is always when the intitiate becomes an apostle themselves. They become a living icon of the faith.

Society itself operates exactly like a cult, with a love bombing face through childhood, initiation stages, rewards, and finally the privilige of doing it to others through bullying, purchasing, bargaining, having children, participation in creating new rules for others etc. One of my biases is that I dont want to do that. I dont want to enforce myself on others, I dont want to be an apostle for my own homebrew faith. Not another Tolstoy, not another fucking pseudo intellectual revolutionary that people run after like he's the rat catcher of Hamelin. It's already happening though, people from this forum contact me and treat me with undue reverence, like I know things. I would like to claim that I never intended this, but I probably wanted it on some level.

Tomorrow I again meet with my social worker. A blonde white woman with a college education. She knows nothing of this, any of this. And I can not explain any of it. She lives in her own, intuitive little universe, because she can afford not knowing. Her parish, her consorts, they have shielded her from exstential dread her entire life. She has no questions. I just feign interest, act affirmative to anything she says, yes darling, i have to heal my inner child darling, yes, I have to let go of the past, yes dear, oh my, a butterfly, sure, love thyself how precious hmm hmm and a hmm. Like I said, we walk alongside each other, two religious zealots, only that one is self aware and the other is not. We can only communicate because I know the difference and study her creed, while she can not even read mine. There is nothing worse than being a dysgenic male with self awareness. At least I feel less and less the older I get, so I can walk around and take the mocking glances and smirks better, like a trapist monk walking the streets of bangkoks pleasure district.

I will say here that I apologize for the blogpost, the "yappathon" as someone from here calls it. I have to say that becaues it is customary with our people to apologize for shitting up their thread with overly long untopical replies and if I dont apologize, I may trigger the wrath of the gods or some shit. But really, the thing is more like Don Quixote, I am not afraid of gods or men, just my own values throwing a shadow on the wall. Attacking windmills and winebags like a schizo. Good Night.
 

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