The only thing we can WORSHIP without giving ourselves illusions of potential godhood is the whole Cosmos

[K9Otaku]

Be careful before you reply.

EVERYTHING in the thread title depends on the meaning of the word WORSHIP.

"worship" DOES NOT mean "thinking that something is God" (it has this meaning only in a monotheistic context, and we are no longer in one)

"Worship" is a far more mundane word than that; it corresponds to ordinary everyday things.

Basically, "worship" just means "praise". Here is the OED origin of the word:

Old English worðscip, wurðscip (Anglian), weorðscipe (West Saxon) "condition of being worthy, dignity, glory, distinction, honor, renown," from weorð "worthy" (see worth) + -scipe (see -ship). Sense of "reverence paid to a supernatural or divine being" is first recorded c. 1300. The original sense is preserved in the title worshipful "honorable" (c. 1300).
Origin and meaning of worship

In other words, originally, worship means "to make worthy" or "to treat as worthy", i.e. "to praise"

So:

• Posting images where X appears in a positive light is worshipping X.
• Imitating X is worshiping X (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery)
• Expecting something fantastic from X and talking about it is worshiping X

Therefore, for incels, expecting "ascension" from foids is worshiping foids (the religious connotations of "ascension" makes this unmistakable)

Posting Chad images or Chad memes like @based_meme does (see below) is Chad worship.

Worshiping X puts you in a dependence relation with respect to X; makes you dependent on X (in the drug-addict sense).

Incels are unfairly treated. No doubt about that. But most make their situation worse by worship foids and Chads. Most incels are in the unenviable position of a drug addict who can never taste his drug of choice. Incels are addicts in a constant state of withdrawal. That is why incels rope.

The only way out of this trap is to worship only the pure transcendent, i.e. something which is by definition absolutely out of reach and towards which we are absolutely subservient. You may call it "God" or otherwise. It does not matter, but it is the only way to get out of the addiction-withdrawal hell we are all stuck in. This is not new. Humans have been aware of this piece of psychological insight for at least 3000 years. It still works today the way it did back then because our brain has not changed.

 

[based_meme]

You and this autistic obsession with that gif.

@gymletethnicel @iamsubhuman

 

[iamsubhuman]

You and this autistic obsession with that gif.

@gymletethnicel @iamsubhuman

lol

 

[K9Otaku]

You and this autistic obsession with that gif.

That gif is just too good to pass up. With it, you have given me all the proof I will ever need regarding your actual religion.

 

[K9Otaku]

@solblue @CopingForBrutality @Moroccancel2- @spasticbuddy @Transcended Trucel @Ahnfeltia @DenHaag @Epedaphic @ElTruecel @Mortis @LesscoBlob @MarquisDeSade @lotus2345 @Intellau_Celistic @TheProphetMuscle, I invite you to have a look at the OP above

 

[based_meme]

That gif is just too good to pass up. With it, you have given me all the proof I will ever need regarding your actual religion.

Because I used a commonly used gif that means I have a religion and you know secretly know what it is?

Too good, mate. Too good.

 

[K9Otaku]

Because I used a commonly used gif that means I have a religion and you know secretly know what it is?

Too good, mate. Too good.

Religions are recognized through symbols. Like the cross or the crescent. This little gif is a symbol of hero worship, which is the religion of all historical "barbarians", from the Vikings to the Mongols.

The saddest part about it is that you are selling it to incels, who are the furthest away from the heroic ideal. You used the gif as a sign of recognition with someone who is purportedly your "buddy". You are greeting the poor guy with a symbol of "heroic camaraderie" as if you were old pals who were crewmates on some Viking longship and you had sacked and raided towns and monasteries all over Europe together for the past 10 years. Given what you and the guy really are, the contrast is really pathetic.

Not that I think that hero-worship is a particularly good religion for anyone, in any case, but choosing it as an Incel is really the cruelest possible joke.

 

[Mortis]

I can put something in a positive light without praising it. I can like something without worshipping it. That's a big leap to make.

 

[Zetta]

OP never misses

 

[K9Otaku]

I can put something in a positive light without praising it. I can like something without worshipping it. That's a big leap to make.

The problem you are having here is a typical misunderstanding of the meaning of "worship". Almost everyone today falls into that trap.

You can like something without praising it. If you start PRAISING the thing to everyone around you, then it becomes worship.

 

[Mortis]

You can like something without praising it. If you start PRAISING the thing to everyone around you, then it becomes worship.

Understood.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Accepting your antiquated definition of worship, my question remains: what do you suggest me to worship? A god of some sort, sure, but I can't very well worship an apparition of my own design, can I? Or, to use your lingo, I can't very well buy into my own counterfeit credit, can I? Ain't that precisely why Paulus had to steep his mental yoga in the metaphysical? None of the extant gods on display have managed to convince me either. Except maybe Hel, but that one's no good according to you. So what do you recommend me to do?

 

[based_meme]

I can put something in a positive light without praising it. I can like something without worshipping it. That's a big leap to make.

I've already made this argument to the wall.

 

[K9Otaku]

I've already made this argument to the wall.

And I have debunked it to the ground

 

[Emba]

OP is a misses

 

[My Name Jeff]

"w-wow... you are so right... i never thought about it like that. did i ever mention you are really cute when you say stuff like this~"

 

[based_meme]

And I have debunked it to the ground

You... didn't get what I meant.

Plus, you didn't deboonk anything. You took words and twisted them like playdough.

 

[based_meme]

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Would rape.

 

[My Name Jeff]

Would rape.

 

[K9Otaku]

Accepting your antiquated definition of worship, my question remains: what do you suggest me to worship? A god of some sort, sure, but I can't very well worship an apparition of my own design, can I? Or, to use your lingo, I can't very well buy into my own counterfeit credit, can I? Ain't that precisely why Paulus had to steep his mental yoga in the metaphysical? None of the extant gods on display have managed to convince me either. Except maybe Hel, but that one's no good according to you. So what do you recommend me to do?

What you can do is use the metaphysics of our time. The metaphysics of "the universe". The way I did this for myself is summarised in my AV picture. The white trace represent something that starts in time (the pointy spike on the left), goes through crises, only to emerge stronger after each, then grows within space-time up to a point where it becomes able to bend space-time at will and embrace all of it at once (the outer circle).

What this does is that it reinterprets the Christian idea of the Logos (aka "the Son") within our modern space-time metaphysics. I do believe in that entity and I do believe that calling it "the Logos" is one of the most forward-thinking aspect of the genius of Christianity. I believe that although individuals die, Language never does. In the end, Language becomes a more palpable reality than anything else because it unites and coordinates everything else, just like DNA coordinates the billions of cells of our body. DNA, by the way, is Language too.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

What you can do is use the metaphysics of our time. The metaphysics of "the universe". The way I did this for myself is summarised in my AV picture. The white trace represent something that starts in time (the pointy spike on the left), goes through crises, only to emerge stronger after each, then grows within space-time up to a point where it becomes able to bend space-time at will and embrace all of it at once (the outer circle).

What this does is that it reinterprets the Christian idea of the Logos (aka "the Son") within our modern space-time metaphysics. I do believe in that entity and I do believe that calling it "the Logos" is one of the most forward-thinking aspect of the genius of Christianity. I believe that although individuals die, Language never does. In the end, Language becomes a more palpable reality than anything else because it unites and coordinates everything else, just like DNA coordinates the billions of cells of our body. DNA, by the way, is Language too.

So basically worship "language"? Creative.

 

[K9Otaku]

So basically worship "language"? Creative.

That is what Christians were doing all along. Christ = "the Logos" according to the Gospel of John.

 

[Izayacel]

I can put something in a positive light without praising it. I can like something without worshipping it. That's a big leap to make.

 

[SmhChan]

Ishtar's thottery is just too powerful for our coomer brains. She was the OG hoe after all.

 

[Drakul]

Actually depends... cosmos as rules and deterministic paths are the reasons we're incel. The stars, the forest and animals? Yes those are pure and deserve worship as they're ultimately victims like us

 

[Ahnfeltia]

That is what Christians were doing all along. Christ = "the Logos" according to the Gospel of John.

I know. I'm merely calling your modern spin on it creative. Worshipping language sounds kinda loony at first.

 

[based_meme]

I know. I'm merely calling your modern spin on it creative. Worshipping language sounds kinda loony at first.

KEK

Always has been.

 

[K9Otaku]

Ishtar's thottery is just too powerful for our coomer brains. She was the OG hoe after all.

What is the OG?

By the way, how do you know Ishtar?

 

[K9Otaku]

I know. I'm merely calling your modern spin on it creative. Worshipping language sounds kinda loony at first.

It is not loony if it has been done for 2000 years

 

[SmhChan]

What is the OG?

By the way, how do you know Ishtar?

Isn't Ishtar described as very promiscuous in the Epic of Gilgamesh? Since she is a goddess, I guess, that makes her an OG (original).

 

[Ahnfeltia]

KEK

Always has been.

If you unpack all of @K9Otaku 's unorthodox lingo, it essentially boils down to praising language as the conduit for human cooperation, at which point it sounds less loony. Taken at face value you're absolutely right of course.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

It is not loony if it has been done for 2000 years

Us moderns would consider bloodletting loony despite it having quite the extensive history.

 

[Lifeisbullshit95]

What is praised... becomes dull after a while.

 

[K9Otaku]

Isn't Ishtar described as very promiscuous in the Epic of Gilgamesh? Since she is a goddess, I guess, that makes her an OG (original).

Yes, but you have to be careful bc there are 2 versions of Gilgamesh, one in Sumerian and one is Akkadian. The take on the characters is quite different, especially regarding Ishtar.

Did you read the book I published in the thread linked in my signature? It is largely based on this story. Ishtar is on the left in the pics below.

 

[K9Otaku]

Us moderns would consider bloodletting loony despite it having quite the extensive history.

Bloodletting was not done SUCCESSFULLY for 2000 years. Those who practiced it remained insignificant primitive tribes.

Worshiping the Logos (language) for 2000 years led to the most advanced civilization ever.

 

[K9Otaku]

It's Chad appreciation in a way because that meme would not be popular if it were two currycels performing the same actions.

What you call "Chad appreciation" is usually called "Hero Worship". It is (was) a very popular religion among "barbarian" warrior tribes like the Celts, the archaic Greeks, the Slavs, the Scythians and the Aryans who colonized both Iran and India in the 2nd millennium BC.

 

[K9Otaku]

Ishtar's thottery is just too powerful for our coomer brains. She was the OG hoe after all.

Also, she is back among us with a vengeance. Look at this FB group:

Goddess of Destruction

Goddess of Destruction, Guntersville, AL. 89,850 likes · 45,220 talking about this. Gorgeous fantasy art

www.facebook.com

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Bloodletting was not done SUCCESSFULLY for 2000 years. Those who practiced it remained insignificant primitive tribes.

Worshiping the Logos (language) for 2000 years led to the most advanced civilization ever.

I know, but just saying

It is not loony if it has been done for 2000 years

paints an incomplete picture if that's the case you wanna make.

 

[K9Otaku]

I know, but just saying

paints an incomplete picture if that's the case you wanna make.

Indeed. But sometimes it is worth being brief.

Worshiping language is the best tool to differentiate between masturbational and real interests

Language worship --> sacralization of language --> demonization of bullshit --> war on idolatry (masturbational linguistic pollution) --> breaking the addiction cycle --> decrease in masturbational attraction --> greater clarity in real interest perception --> greater desire to worship language

The above cycle is virtuous. There are not many like it.