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Hypocrisy the only reason men lack "lasting power" is because men invented the technology needed to allow easy female masturbation

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Women have a deep itch in their vaginas (the hidden base of their clitoris, not that pathetic external club) which they need scratched with something phallic.

Originally there was not any means of doing this safely other than a cock. What the fuck are you going to use, a rough stick? OUCH

Then men invented farming and suddenly women had carrots and cucumbers to use as penis substitutes.

But the tech to create faux-vaginas would require much more advanced tech, so the balance can't be restored until present day.
 
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They still want dick, because it is warm and has cum, same goes with fleshlights, they are not 100% the same as pussy, but I do understand your point
 
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Wizard32 said:
Then men invented farming and suddenly women had carrots and cucumbers to use as penis substitutes.
Men can use banana peels. Or melons or grapefruit. Starfruit. Coconut, anything you can cut a hole in.:feelsohh:
 
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Wizard32 said:
Women have a deep itch in their vaginas (the hidden base of their clitoris, not that pathetic external club) which they need scratched with something phallic.

Originally there was not any means of doing this safely other than a cock. What the fuck are you going to use, a rough stick? OUCH

Then men invented farming and suddenly women had carrots and cucumbers to use as penis substitutes.

But the tech to create faux-vaginas would require much more advanced tech, so the balance can't be restored until present day.
Pretty much everything men invent ends up being their undoing
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Therapywasaaste said:
Men can use banana peels. Or melons or grapefruit. Starfruit. Coconut, anything you can cut a hole in.:feelsohh:
Or fleshlights or sexdolls
 
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Therapywasaaste said:
Men can use banana peels. Or melons or grapefruit. Starfruit. Coconut, anything you can cut a hole in.:feelsohh:
those aren't warm so it's not the same, but you can heat a carrot in a stew pot and it will remain firm like cock

you're basically fucking your hand and wearing banana as glove, it's also not the same as holding a dildo because there's more distance from the hand, it's an entirely separate tool

I don't see how coconut could emulate
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Before modern tech
we can't expect "just registered" guys to read entire OPs can we?
 
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I don't see how coconut could emulate
Cut a hole in it:feelsokman:
 
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It's ironic how so many of us low smv men embrace capitalism despite it contributing to our downfall. Similarly, foids seem to embrace socialism, however, that system worsen their ability to live independently of men
 
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Evolution did not select for lasting power. Actually cumming prematurely is a sign of good health because in prehistoric times you would be vulnerable during sex, so finishing quick would give you better defense
 
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Therapywasaaste said:
Cut a hole in it:feelsokman:
have you actually tried it and tied a vagina to compare? why would this measure up?
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Evolution did not select for lasting power. Actually cumming prematurely is a sign of good health because in prehistoric times you would be vulnerable during sex, so finishing quick would give you better defense
the counterargument would be that if you came too easily you'd do it before getting your seed inside a vagina

also women were always engaged in polyandry meaning you also had to remain hard long enough to scoop out the last guy's cum with your dick before depositing your own

if you came the second you put it in without pumping out preceding guy's seed then preceding guy's seed would take root
 
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Pretty much everything men invent ends up being their undoing
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Pretty sure there were cucumbers around before farming. Also, I’m sure women used Chad’s dick to scratch the itch back in the day.
 
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Pretty sure there were cucumbers around before farming. Also, I’m sure women used Chad’s dick to scratch the itch back in the day.
Before farming and artificial selection cucumbers were actually smaller rounder spikey things. And bananas were small too
 
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Pretty sure there were cucumbers around before farming. Also, I’m sure women used Chad’s dick to scratch the itch back in the day.
Chad was less accessible because before modern farming humans had to spread out more to have enough food via foraging.

It was only when man invented farming that people were able to live closer together.

So basically Chad is able to walk shorter distances to fuck different foids.

Foids doing less work foraging naturally-growing stuff like berries and tending to a garden also meant she had more free energy and time to go seek out Chad.
 
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Chad was less accessible because before modern farming humans had to spread out more to have enough food via foraging.

It was only when man invented farming that people were able to live closer together.

So basically Chad is able to walk shorter distances to fuck different foids.
Wasn't it after agriculture developed that more than 1 in 17 men were able to breed though?
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Foids doing less work foraging naturally-growing stuff like berries and tending to a garden also meant she had more free energy and time to go seek out Chad.
Maybe this is the origin of the Original Sin story? Assuming that the story was not meant to be taken literally but as a parable of sorts.
 
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Wasn't it after agriculture developed that more than 1 in 17 men were able to breed though?

We only know that 1 in 17 men bred prior to agriculture, not that MORE than 1 in 17 breed after it.

It's probably something like 1 in 34 now.

Think of this: what % of "fathers" actually get DNA tests to affirm paternity?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16686854/ for example says there are "nearly" 300 thousand done per year.

Recorded births in the United States have decreased from about 4.19 million in 1990 to 3.75 million in 2019.

So that's what, less than 10%? But don't jump to thinking "1 in 10" all of sudden, that's far too generous.

300k is just the amount of tests done... it doesn't actually tell you the results, who was tested, or who got to SEE the results.

A foid for example could secretly have a test done just to inform herself and not reveal the results to the dad. She'll take it to know whether or not she should allow the dad to do a test.

Another thing is that tests can be falsified. This is basically the plotline of the TV miniseries "The Secrets She Keeps". A wife has two sons: the older son she has with her husband and the younger son she had cheating with her husband's friend.

All she does is take saliva from her older son and feigns swabbing her baby but actually swaps it and submits the older son's to the lab. Any foid with multiple kids of same gender could do this so long as at least one is actually a dad's she can misrepresent the others as being his too, long as there's no obvious indicators like she's white and one dad's black and the other's not, and even then some foids can manage to fool.
 
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Wizard32 said:
We only know that 1 in 17 men bred prior to agriculture, not that MORE than 1 in 17 breed after it.

It's probably something like 1 in 34 now.

Think of this: what % of "fathers" actually get DNA tests to affirm paternity?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16686854/ for example says there are "nearly" 300 thousand done per year.

Recorded births in the United States have decreased from about 4.19 million in 1990 to 3.75 million in 2019.

So that's what, less than 10%? But don't jump to thinking "1 in 10" all of sudden, that's far too generous.

300k is just the amount of tests done... it doesn't actually tell you the results, who was tested, or who got to SEE the results.

A foid for example could secretly have a test done just to inform herself and not reveal the results to the dad. She'll take it to know whether or not she should allow the dad to do a test.

Another thing is that tests can be falsified. This is basically the plotline of the TV miniseries "The Secrets She Keeps". A wife has two sons: the older son she has with her husband and the younger son she had cheating with her husband's friend.

All she does is take saliva from her older son and feigns swabbing her baby but actually swaps it and submits the older son's to the lab. Any foid with multiple kids of same gender could do this so long as at least one is actually a dad's she can misrepresent the others as being his too, long as the father is of the same ethnicity.
But with agriculture more men could be more steady providers. And historically being providers is how a lot of men have gotten laid and gotten a woman to stay with them to raise a family.

Thoughts on agriculture and the origins of the Original Sin story btw (foids foraging in garden symbolizing agriculture, the snake symbolizing chad)
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Foids doing less work foraging naturally-growing stuff like berries and tending to a garden also meant she had more free energy and time to go seek out Chad.
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Maybe this is the origin of the Original Sin story? Assuming that the story was not meant to be taken literally but as a parable of sorts.
 
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But with agriculture more men could be more steady providers. And historically being providers is how a lot of men have gotten laid and gotten a woman to stay with them to raise a family.

Historically being a provider is how you get women to stay with you and raise HER CHILDREN, yes.

Betabux has always been a thing though: if you're going out for 8 hours to hunt a caribou and drag it back to your cave you have no idea who she is fucking while you're gone.

The reason why Chad had reasonable sureness is that cavewomen want their babies to be good caribou-draggers so they will fuck him exclusively and not spread for guys who only hunt small game and have more free time to fuck while Chad is out.

Farming ruined this though: men are still out for long hours getting food, but they're doing stuff like planting seeds and picking grapes which is athletically unimpressive.

So while betabux farmer is out scything wheat, his wife is at home getting fucked by roaming gigachad who doesn't need to work because farmers' wives give him free food in exchange for his semen.

Chad basically doesn't have to hunt caribou anymore because betabux farmer is producing meat via raising goats/cows in pens.

Hunting wild game is now no longer how you prove your fitness, you just need great frame/muss.

About the only good thing betabux farmer gets out of this is that by raising Chad's muscular children he might perhaps get better labour out of it due to his wife's kids being stronger than if they were sired by betabux farmer.

I don't think that necessarily works out though.

Even if neither consciously acknowledge it, on some deep level the betabux farme knows the kids aren't his and doesn't fully accept them. In turn, gigachad's sons know deep down it's not their real dad, and will be disobedient and slack off.

So even if they are 50% stronger (150% output) by putting in 50% effort you only get 75% output, so I think it's better for betabux farmer to sire his own sons and have them work his farm.

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Thoughts on agriculture and the origins of the Original Sin story btw (foids foraging in garden symbolizing agriculture, the snake symbolizing chad)
Eh not really seeing the connection TBH, Adam didn't exactly plan the apple tree.

The food shouldn't be taken too literally it's more about the apple giving magic IQ points than literally the fructose filling.
 
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Historically being a provider is how you get women to stay with you and raise HER CHILDREN, yes.

Betabux has always been a thing though: if you're going out for 8 hours to hunt a caribou and drag it back to your cave you have no idea who she is fucking while you're gone.

The reason why Chad had reasonable sureness is that cavewomen want their babies to be good caribou-draggers so they will fuck him exclusively and not spread for guys who only hunt small game and have more free time to fuck while Chad is out.

Farming ruined this though: men are still out for long hours getting food, but they're doing stuff like planting seeds and picking grapes which is athletically unimpressive.

So while betabux farmer is out scything wheat, his wife is at home getting fucked by roaming gigachad who doesn't need to work because farmers' wives give him free food in exchange for his semen.

Chad basically doesn't have to hunt caribou anymore because betabux farmer is producing meat via raising goats/cows in pens.

Hunting wild game is now no longer how you prove your fitness, you just need great frame/muss.

About the only good thing betabux farmer gets out of this is that by raising Chad's muscular children he might perhaps get better labour out of it due to his wife's kids being stronger than if they were sired by betabux farmer.

I don't think that necessarily works out though.

Even if neither consciously acknowledge it, on some deep level the betabux farme knows the kids aren't his and doesn't fully accept them. In turn, gigachad's sons know deep down it's not their real dad, and will be disobedient and slack off.

So even if they are 50% stronger (150% output) by putting in 50% effort you only get 75% output, so I think it's better for betabux farmer to sire his own sons and have them work his farm.
Agriculture is the basis for the modern world and Abrahamic religions tbh
There's nomadic elements too sure but all of this seems to have emerged when agriculture started.

You want to go back to the times of nomadic tribes, no agriculture and excess emphasis on paleodiet and hunting? Those times were probably (just like it's getting to be now) chad only and with no real sense of community or trust
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Eh not really seeing the connection TBH, Adam didn't exactly plan the apple tree.

The food shouldn't be taken too literally it's more about the apple giving magic IQ points than literally the fructose filling.
Just like the flood myth might have its origins in post ice age flooding maybe the story of original sin and the serpent is an allegory to agriculture and woman straying from her husband and being seduced by a chad.
 
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Agriculture is the basis for the modern world and Abrahamic religions tbh

I could do without Abraham tbh

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There's nomadic elements too sure but all of this seems to have emerged when agriculture started.

You want to go back to the times of nomadic tribes, no agriculture and excess emphasis on paleodiet and hunting?

No I like agriculture, I'm just saying that there are unintended consequences.

It allowed us to advance to the tech level of onaholes which emerges in the next decade so there's no point going back now, but much imbalance is created.

Little girls will grow up masturbating with cucumbers their mommies buy and get numb to sexual stimulation (partners won't last enough to satisfy them unless they are Chad with regular sexual access) while little boys will have to wait until they're living alone to work up guts to buy a sex toy.
 
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Wizard32 said:
I could do without Abraham tbh

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A lot of concepts, parables and instruction in Abrahamic religions center around agriculture. Wouldn't you agree?
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No I like agriculture, I'm just saying that there are unintended consequences.
There are unintended and unforeseen consequences for any invention though tbh
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It allowed us to advance to the tech level of onaholes which emerges in the next decade so there's no point going back now, but much imbalance is created.
Interesting. Where do you think the next breakthroughs in onahole technology will happen?
 
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Interesting. Where do you think the next breakthroughs in onahole technology will happen?
probably japan unless china wipes it out
 
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probably japan unless china wipes it out
But what specific advances in materials and sensory feedback do you think will occur? There's a limit to how much things like onaholes can improve ngl
 
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There's a limit to how much things like onaholes can improve ngl
I don't see any feasible limit on anything.

They'll probably make them better than vaginas where foids will need to compete with personality/looks over pussy
 
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