Serious The only realistic approach to having sex is trade

[K9Otaku]

Short-term: escorts
long-term: marriage. Not like marriage now where the foid can escape the contract at any moment and still fleece you. Honest marriage contract where you pay and the foid has to give you sex when you want.

If you are not a chad, your only hope to get sex is money for sex. Thats in our genes. Like all money transactions, they should to be fair. Today, escorts are fair: you get what you pay for. No scam. But marriage is a scam.

Only solution to inceldom is honest, properly enforced marriage contract: long term money for sex.

 

[ElliotRodgerGod]

i agree but this is common knowledge for a very long time.

 

[K9Otaku]

i agree but this is common knowledge for a very long time.

Not really. Many people on this forum still hope that a foid will lust for them even though they are not Chads

Example:

Every one of you fantasises about getting a cute/hot girlfriend you’re wildly attracted to. Except the closeted gaycels lolol.

You want to cuddle up to, and feel loved and adored by a beautiful girl who gives you butterflies in your stomach and makes you swoon and smile with happiness that you have such a wonderful person in your life


Don’t kid yourself. If you had an ugly looksmatch gf, it’s likely there wouldn’t be that radiant, warm and uplifting excitement. The enthusiasm wouldn’t be there, and it would feel forced and disappointing.


Both men and women want attractive partners that they are sexually aroused and excited by. But women have the immense and unearned privilege of choice, while men have to fight for whatever scraps they can get.

This thread also is full of delusional brocels who want to be loved or lusted after: https://incels.is/threads/are-u-volcel-if-u-refuse-an-arranged-marriage.150073/

 

[Monk of Failure]

I'm never gonna pay holes money for sex in any way.

 

[ElliotRodgerGod]

Not really. Many people on this forum still hope that a foid will lust for them even though they are not Chads

Example:

yes theyre fantasies

 

[K9Otaku]

I'm gonna pay holes money for sex in any way.

What a relief when you come to accept that and stop going on wild goose chases for "love"

 

[Deleted member 15752]

All I care about is marriage and reproduction in the correct environment. Not saying I will deny sex, but it would be meaningless to me.

 

[Monk of Failure]

What a relief when you come to accept that and stop going on wild goose chases for "love"

I don't believe in love but I won't be paying for sex either.

 

[K9Otaku]

I don't believe in love but I won't be paying for sex either.

That is up to you. Money means freedom. You want sex, you pay. You don't want it, don't pay.

 

[LastGerman]

You want sex, you pay. You don't want it, don't pay.

You can also go for rape.

 

[GhannTC9ruVPNeNXnqb]

this is what the ancients speak of

 

[universallyabhorred]

Today, escorts are fair:

Some escorts will still reject you if you are the wrong race, too ugly, or autistic.

 

[Monk of Failure]

That is up to you. Money means freedom. You want sex, you pay. You don't want it, don't pay.

I want sex but I don't wanna pay for it and will never pay for it.

 

[roboticsmaxx]

It's called concubinage, or maintaining a mistress. Something in between straight up pay per pop (brothel/streetwalking prostitution) and a civil contract that you cannot get out of except through death or lots of personal damage (marriage).

That's exactly what sugarbaby / sugardaddy sites are up to, except since whoring is still illegal (for johns) in many countries they can't exactly enforce the women to put out.

The problem is not the concept, but the fact that the prices are ridiculous. Girls on tinder are boasting about having $500 spent on them per date, then get mad when a guy only spends $250. Where I'm from $500 is a very decent MONTHLY salary.

The only way to pop this pussy bubble is either eliminating demand (i.e. World War III and send all the men to die for profit... oh hello there Turkey and Syria, hello Iran, hello North Korea, how y'all doing today? Oh Hong Kong, you too? That's Grrrreat!" Or by flooding the supply with sexbots.

I personally wouldn't mind bettabuxxing a hoe for $300/month or $50 a pop. Pricing, pricing, pricing. Men are surprisingly predictable economic actors, hence why SEAmaxxing is a thing.

 

[TheGambler2]

Today, escorts are fair: you get what you pay for. No scam.

https://incels.is/threads/i-got-cat...-to-my-stomach-right-now.137928/#post-2876927

 

[K9Otaku]

I want sex but I don't wanna pay for it and will never pay for it.

Then you won't get sex

Some escorts will still reject you if you are the wrong race, too ugly, or autistic.

I have never been rejected (ricecel here)

You can also go for rape.

Yeah. But the price is even higher if you get caught. And you are almost always caught ...

 

[K9Otaku]

It's called concubinage, or maintaining a mistress. Something in between straight up pay per pop (brothel/streetwalking prostitution) and a civil contract that you cannot get out of except through death or lots of personal damage (marriage).

That's exactly what sugarbaby / sugardaddy sites are up to, except since whoring is still illegal (for johns) in many countries they can't exactly enforce the women to put out.

The problem is not the concept, but the fact that the prices are ridiculous. Girls on tinder are boasting about having $500 spent on them per date, then get mad when a guy only spends $250. Where I'm from $500 is a very decent MONTHLY salary.

The only way to pop this pussy bubble is either eliminating demand (i.e. World War III and send all the men to die for profit... oh hello there Turkey and Syria, hello Iran, hello North Korea, how y'all doing today? Oh Hong Kong, you too? That's Grrrreat!" Or by flooding the supply with sexbots.

I personally wouldn't mind bettabuxxing a hoe for $300/month or $50 a pop. Pricing, pricing, pricing. Men are surprisingly predictable economic actors, hence why SEAmaxxing is a thing.

Concubinage is a kind of medium term contract. But since it is informal, it is hard to enforce

based

Then fine, don't get sex at all if this is what you want ....

 

[TheMinimalist]

If real love doesn't exist, as I read in a thread yesterday, then this whole thread is pointless

 

[K9Otaku]

If real love doesn't exist, as I read in a thread yesterday, then this whole thread is pointless

What do you mean?

Even if love does not exist, we still need sex, don't we?

 

[virgin4life]

Honest marriage contract where you pay and the foid has to give you sex when you want.

You can not have an agreement about sex that is legally valid.

Yeah. But the price is even higher if you get caught. And you are almost always caught ...

Especially since the foid just needs to accuse you with no evidence whatsoever and it will get you locked up for years before a judge even looks into your case.

 

[K9Otaku]

You can not have an agreement about sex that is legally valid.

Right now, no. But in the past, in every society on Earth, you could. That is what marriage was

 

[ovrload]

marriage in 2019 is for cucks

 

[virgin4life]

Right now, no. But in the past, in every society on Earth, you could. That is what marriage was

It won't ever be the same anymore since feminazi cunts have taken over the planet. Marriage is not an option anymore. You have to stick to escorts. It is the cheapest and safest way to fuck. Actually it is the only way to fuck that makes any sense at all from a logical point of view even for normies. I mean even if I had a gf and could fuck her without paying directly I would have to invite her to dinner and shit and it would cost me more than just paying for fucking. So escorts are the only rational choice at this time.

 

[Sexdoll Pioneer]

Some escorts will still reject you if you are the wrong race, too ugly, or autistic.

Or they will treat you with such utter disdain the entire time that it ruins the experience. I know because I've had that happen to me every time I've seen an escort. They were extremely friendly towards me via email or text, but the niceties ended the very moment looked at my FACE.

 

[virgin4life]

Or they will treat you with such utter disdain the entire time that it ruins the experience. I know because I've had that happen to me every time I've seen an escort. They were extremely friendly towards me via email or text, but the niceties ended the very moment looked at my FACE.

Who cares? It's just a piece of fuckmeat with a hole. Use it and move on.

 

[Sexdoll Pioneer]

Who cares? It's just a piece of fuckmeat with a hole. Use it and move on.

Because I didn't pay a foid hundreds of dollars to be reminded of my subhumanness. For that amount of money, they could at least try to conceal their disgust for me.

 

[wide_eyed_optimism_]

Cope

Because I didn't pay a foid hundreds of dollars to be reminded of my subhumanness. For that amount of money, they could at least try to conceal their disgust for me.

I've never gone to a whore but tbh I don't think it's even possible for them to conceal their disgust, I think you could only enjoy it if you're autistic

 

[virgin4life]

Because I didn't pay a foid hundreds of dollars to be reminded of my subhumanness. For that amount of money, they could at least try to conceal their disgust for me.

Hundreds of Dollars? What the fuck dude? Here it costs 30 Euros to fuck a whore. Where do you live?

 

[K9Otaku]

.... So escorts are the only rational choice at this time.

Absolutely

marriage in 2019 is for cucks

Of couse.

That is why, in the OP, I talk about an "honest, properly enforced marriage contract", which is not at all what marriage is today

 

[Glokta]

Men in the past knew that simple truth very well. Marriage is a form of exclusive prostitution where a single woman is tied to a single man (Christian model as Islam allows limited polygamy). Men trade their resources and their work while women trade their pussies. It's a fair exchange. In the end, marriage is not about lust or love but about stability, as stability allows civilization to flourish. All women are prostitutes. It's just a matter of exclusivity and price. XXI century is the first time in recorded history when women are completely free to choose with whom they will mate with. Considering countries which gave women rights are now at the brink of destruction, it's safe to assume the social experiment known as universal suffrage was a failure with disastrous consequences for millions of European and East Asian men around the globe.

 

[K9Otaku]

Because I didn't pay a foid hundreds of dollars to be reminded of my subhumanness. For that amount of money, they could at least try to conceal their disgust for me.

That is why you have escort directories with client reviews. Some escorts are better than others. Some, in particular are better at acting the part properly

Men in the past knew that simple truth very well. Marriage is a form of exclusive prostitution where a single woman is tied to a single man (Christian model as Islam allows limited polygamy). Men trade their resources and their work while women trade their pussies. It's a fair exchange. In the end, marriage is not about lust or love but about stability, as stability allows civilization to flourish. All women are prostitutes. It's just a matter of exclusivity and price. XXI century is the first time in recorded history when women are completely free to choose with whom they will mate with. Considering countries which gave women rights are now at the brink of destruction, it's safe to assume the social experiment known as universal suffrage was a failure with disastrous consequences for millions of European and East Asian men around the globe.

Based

 

[Sexdoll Pioneer]

Hundreds of Dollars? What the fuck dude? Here it costs 30 Euros to fuck a whore. Where do you live?

The "freest country in the world" (kek) where prostitution is outlawed in 49 states plus the major counties in the 50th state.

 

[oldcel75]

So incel cannot ascend.

 

[Sexdoll Pioneer]

That is why you have escort directories with client reviews. Some escorts are better than others. Some, in particular are better at acting the part properly

You have to remember that most guys writing the reviews don't disgust women like we do (or at least like I do) and therefore will be treated better as clients. A few of the escorts I saw DID have positive reviews, yet they still gave me terrible service, presumably because of the same looks discrimination that I receive from women in everyday life.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

The "freest country in the world" (kek) where prostitution is outlawed in 49 states plus the major counties in the 50th state.

JFL@ this country tbh.

 

[lightskin2thousand0]

Most pre history tribal humans used this for starfish sex

 

[Sexdoll Pioneer]

JFL@ this country tbh.

And let's not forget about our 4th World vacation time policy that ensures that lonely, sex-starved men will never be able to spend much, if any, vacation time in countries with legal prostitution.

Not that it matters for truecels like me, however, because even working women in poorer countries have treated me with the same level of disgust as escorts in the states. My head is that freakishly ugly, but at least my lovedolls don't mind.

 

[lightskin2thousand0]

And let's not forget about our 4th World vacation time policy that ensures that lonely, sex-starved men will never be able to spend much, if any, vacation time in countries with legal prostitution.

Not that it matters for truecels like me, however, because even working women in poorer countries have treated me with the same level of disgust as escorts in the states. My head is that freakishly ugly, but at least my lovedolls don't mind.

Tfw historical Puritan work ethic of the colonial united states makes it impossible to ascend

 

[Deleted member 8353]

And let's not forget about our 4th World vacation time policy that ensures that lonely, sex-starved men will never be able to spend much, if any, vacation time in countries with legal prostitution.

Not that it matters for truecels like me, however, because even working women in poorer countries have treated me with the same level of disgust as escorts in the states. My head is that freakishly ugly, but at least my lovedolls don't mind.

I've never even tried escortcelling tbh, it's ridiculously expensive anyway, and I'm stuck in a shit location with no car. While I'm not sure that I'd even enjoy it anyway, sometimes I wonder if I'd feel any better knowing what sex is like. Probably not, but it's difficult to believe that when it's shoved in your face all the time.

 

[K9Otaku]

So incel cannot ascend.

They can, if they are prepared to pay. Of course, in our society, only short term contracts (escorts) are available

 

[Sexdoll Pioneer]

I've never even tried escortcelling tbh, it's ridiculously expensive anyway, and I'm stuck in a shit location with no car. While I'm not sure that I'd even enjoy it anyway, sometimes I wonder if I'd feel any better knowing what sex is like. Probably not, but it's difficult to believe that when it's shoved in your face all the time.

You still wouldn't know what sex is like (at least not what men with better faces get to experience) after fucking a prostitute since you'll be having it with someone who's cold and indifferent while wearing a condom. My experiences with prostitutes ranks up there with bullying, rejection, and my own mother telling me that I'm "too ugly to be her son" as one of the most traumatizing experiences of my life.

 

[oldcel75]

They can, if they are prepared to pay. Of course, in our society, only short term contracts (escorts) are available

So any "incel" who is not going to an escort is a volcel?

 

[K9Otaku]

So any "incel" who is not going to an escort is a volcel?

Technically no because celibacy refers to long terms relationship. If you go to escorts only, you are still celibate

But an incel who can afford escorts and does not avail himself of their services is a masochist

 

[Sparrow's Song]

Why give them anything? If you don't get to experience what chad experiences, there is no point. Enforced monogamy is a huge cope, it's way too late for that. In today's age, all foids are irredeemable and unforgivable, unfit for marriage and unworthy of motherhood. Foids have money and political power over men now, plus they have Tinder. 21st century problems require 21st century solutions. Ectogenesis and female companion robots are the only way to move forward, no matter what laws are passed or what social changes are made, foids will always only be attracted to chads and tyrones only. We must move on into the future without the savage barbarism of femoid nature or die helplessly upon the smoldering mountain of dead male bodies that is Sexual Competition. Replacing foids isn't just about giving sub8 men something to live for, it's about ending the sexual competition, the heartless bloodbath that has consumed the souls of humanity throughout our entire history.

 

[Sexdoll Pioneer]

Why give them anything? If you don't get to experience what chad experiences, there is no point. Enforced monogamy is a huge cope, it's way too late for that. In today's age, all foids are irredeemable and unforgivable, unfit for marriage and unworthy of motherhood. Foids have money and political power over men now, plus they have Tinder. 21st century problems require 21st century solutions. Ectogenesis and female companion robots are the only way to move forward, no matter what laws are passed or what social changes are made, foids will always only be attracted to chads and tyrones only. We must move on into the future without the savage barbarism of femoid nature or die helplessly upon the smoldering mountain of dead male bodies that is Sexual Competition. Replacing foids isn't just about giving sub8 men something to live for, it's about ending the sexual competition, the heartless bloodbath that has consumed the souls of humanity throughout our entire history.

One of the most insightful posts I've ever read and I totally agree with the part in bold.

 

[K9Otaku]

Why give them anything? If you don't get to experience what chad experiences, there is no point. Enforced monogamy is a huge cope, it's way too late for that. In today's age, all foids are irredeemable and unforgivable, unfit for marriage and unworthy of motherhood. Foids have money and political power over men now, plus they have Tinder. 21st century problems require 21st century solutions. Ectogenesis and female companion robots are the only way to move forward, no matter what laws are passed or what social changes are made, foids will always only be attracted to chads and tyrones only. We must move on into the future without the savage barbarism of femoid nature or die helplessly upon the smoldering mountain of dead male bodies that is Sexual Competition. Replacing foids isn't just about giving sub8 men something to live for, it's about ending the sexual competition, the heartless bloodbath that has consumed the souls of humanity throughout our entire history.

I fully agree with this. If we are able to move beyond sex, then, by all means, let's do it.

However, I am not sure we are there yet. The pace of technical evolution is no longer what it was 50 years ago and it will probably slow down even more over the next 50 years. We may have to wait a few centuries before we are able to do what you say.

 

[oldcel75]

Technically no because celibacy refers to long terms relationship. If you go to escorts only, you are still celibate

But an incel who can afford escorts and does not avail himself of their services is a masochist

So, again, a gigachad who fucks 3 girls a day, and does not want any LTRs is an incel?

Men in the past knew that simple truth very well. Marriage is a form of exclusive prostitution where a single woman is tied to a single man (Christian model as Islam allows limited polygamy). Men trade their resources and their work while women trade their pussies. It's a fair exchange. In the end, marriage is not about lust or love but about stability, as stability allows civilization to flourish. All women are prostitutes. It's just a matter of exclusivity and price. XXI century is the first time in recorded history when women are completely free to choose with whom they will mate with. Considering countries which gave women rights are now at the brink of destruction, it's safe to assume the social experiment known as universal suffrage was a failure with disastrous consequences for millions of European and East Asian men around the globe.

Good post.
But in the past it also been like that. She slept with you and hated you because you are not tall as the blond hunter from the next cave.

 

[K9Otaku]

So, again, a gigachad who fucks 3 girls a day, and does not want any LTRs is an incel?

Fuck this question again.

I already told you, moron, that the said Chad is technically celibate (ie single), but he is obviously not an incel because his celibacy is not involuntary.

 

[TheMinimalist]

What do you mean?

Even if love does not exist, we still need sex, don't we?

Just jack off, then u won't feel horny after wards. Just empty with no sense of accomplishment

 

[oldcel75]

Fuck this question again.

I already told you, moron, that the said Chad is technically celibate (ie single), but he is obviously not an incel because his celibacy is not involuntary.

Oh, I did not know that it's so easy to get you out of mental balance. Sorry again.
So, this gigachad is a volcel?