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The online clip factory that's radicalizing teen boys - Salon.com

How a wildly popular YouTube “dating” show heaps mockery on women to create "so many more incels”

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The videos often seem to come from nowhere — devoid of any context like names, locations or professions — and pop onto a young man’s phone screen, guided by the invisible hand of the algorithm. The clips are undeniably provocative. Sexy young women at microphones, with captions promising the viewer is about to see them “TRIGGERED” or “CRYING” with “ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY” for their allegedly awful actions. Every basement dwelling-misogynist’s worst views of women are, the headlines suggest, about to be proved true: Women are too stupid for politics. Feminism has turned women into a bunch of sluts. Women shamelessly lie to manipulate men. “Girl power” has deluded women into believing they’re much hotter than they are. Women have ridiculously high standards for both men’s looks and wealth.

The message to young male viewers is unmistakable: Modern dating is a fool’s errand, because “woke” politics has turned all the women into gold-digging harlots.

Technically, Brian Atlas’ show is called “Dating Talk,” but most people call it “Whatever,” the name of the long-standing YouTube channel that hosts it. Atlas spent many years publishing half-baked “prank” videos on his channel, which often had right-wing undertones, before he discovered what appears to be his real money-maker: a veritable factory of anti-feminist rage bait, churned out at an unrelenting pace for rapid dissemination on every social media channel imaginable.

High profile MAGA figures like Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, Dave Rubin and Michael Knowles have all made the pilgrimage to the Santa Barbara, California, office park where Whatever is shot. They sit across a table from scantily clad OnlyFans models and college students, “debating” such hot topics as whether women should have the right to vote and whether marital rape is acceptable.

Kirk made his infamous Whatever appearance in January 2024. As journalist Madeline Peltz has documented, after that, he “staged more and more debates on college campuses,” focused on generating “bite-sized clips” that showcased how Kirk “would patronize and shame” students, largely young women.

Women are the key to Atlas’ success. Every episode, which can sometime run eight hours or longer, features an array of female guests, sometimes as young as 18. Most appear in tank tops or low-cut dresses that prominently display cleavage.

Their reward for this is to be portrayed as stupid, greedy or promiscuous in video clips seen by hundreds of thousands of people. So why would any woman subject herself to this?

Most women on the show, Erin told Salon, are erotic models looking to promote their OnlyFans pages, or random women that Atlas initially contacted through dating apps.

Whatever gets millions of views on clips of “Dating Talk.” In the process, West argued, Atlas is radicalizing young men with the topsy-turvy message that “women are in charge of society,” while men have “an inherent disadvantage” and must fight to win back their “dominant position.”

On nearly every episode, Atlas badgers female guests to talk about their “body count,” meaning the number of men they’ve slept with. Those who give numbers deemed shockingly high are turned into clips. Male viewers respond with comments like “absolutely gross who would want to marry that” or claim a woman’s genitals have been “blown to PIECES.”

It’s may seem obvious that the spread of misogynist views through “red pill” shows like “Dating Talk” can be dangerous for women. But experts who spoke with Salon also argued that this content is harmful to men and boys, especially teenage boys who don’t have fully formed political or social views and may be consuming these clips out of pure curiosity.

Memes like “man or bear” teach viewers that women are hateful, but there’s another set of manosphere concepts, heavily promoted on the Whatever channel, that lead male viewers to believe they face impossible odds in pursuing a happy relationship.

That loneliness drives young men into deeper layers of radicalization, West said. They “are looking for a community,” and the far-right is ready to offer them one. Nazi sympathizer Nick Fuentes, for instance, explicitly markets his hateful rhetoric to incels, presenting his puritanical form of white nationalism as a necessary corrective to the supposedly decadent lifestyles his audience feels excluded from. More broadly, pseudoscientific claims like the “80/20 rule” can lure young men toward the view that women’s freedom must not be tolerated.

West recommends that parents and educators with preteen and teenage boys in their care need to learn “the language that’s being used” — terms like “incel,” “red pill” or “sexual market value” — so they can intervene if they hear slang picked up from the manosphere.

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Wow, who would had thought foids willingly making asses out of themselves on social media EVERY SINGLE DAY would cause an influx of young men to graviate to the incelopshere IN DROVES?!?! Thanks for the gaslighting by assuming they are only being propagated that way through influencers, I guess.

 

[drunken_sailor2500]

I hope the cunt who wrote that article gets a molten rod of cast iron shoved up her pussy.

 

[ColderManTruce]

I hope the cunt who wrote that article gets a molten rod of cast iron shoved up her pussy.

 

[DoomThreeKoala]

I hope the cunt who wrote that article gets a molten rod of cast iron shoved up her pussy.

 

[Antorian]

Truth is dangerous to these "people"

 

[nazianime]

Frankly I enjoy when the stupidly of many women is showcased publicly.

 

[Hoodpreet]

High profile MAGA figures like Charlie Kirk

 

[Last2025cel]

Truth is dangerous to these "people"

 

[Misogynist Vegeta]

The truth is dangerous for people who profit off of lies.