
Deleted member 8353
Former Hikikomori, Aimless Pleasure Seeker
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First of all there is the obvious, that it completely misses the point. If our only problem was sexual urges, those can be resolved easily through fapping, and none of us would be posting here if that were the case. But that's far from the only part of this proposed "solution" that's bullshit.
While I won't say that we all necessarily "just want to be loved", as I don't really associate sexuality with love, the truth is that we want to be wanted. There is absolutely no act that intrinsically displays acceptance like unpaid consensual sex. Between the physical closeness, the intimacy, and perhaps most importantly, the symbolic message to a man telling him that he's good enough for a woman to be willing to bear his children. Now I have some idea about what normies would say to that last bit, that is to say "most sex isn't done for the purpose of reproduction" or something of that nature. Well it simply doesn't matter, at least not from an emotional or psychological perspective, and the difference is equally nonexistent in terms of the sexual selection process of women, all unpaid sex is sending the same message to a man regardless of circumstance. I never intend to have children, yet this unspoken statement is just as important to me as it would be to any other man.
I won't go too much into this(as there are other causes of loneliness), but normies who say that our inceldom has no affect on how lonely we feel is complete bullshit. Having romantic/sexual interactions is one important part of the human experience. While having friends is equally important(something many on this site also entirely lack), these types of relationships won't entirely compensate for being an incel, especially a lifetime virgin.
Although this doesn't apply to all of us, here in the USA normies who tell me this are telling me to break the law, and if the foundation of my ethical framework were my nation's laws(which it isn't), then what they're saying is essentially no different from suggesting that I rape women. Speaking of the USA, do you realize that well over half the men in my country are mutilated? How is that relevant you ask? Well male circumcision, at least when done in the most common manner carried out here, extremely limits the amount of sexual pleasure men are capable of feeling, to the point where both masturbation and sex are done more to satisfy sexual urges than to produce sexual pleasure. The point of that is the incels here in America can't be exclusively(or even mostly) seeking pleasure when the majority of us have an extremely limited capacity to even feel it, which in turn brings me back to my first point, that if this were actually about sex at all then it would be a non issue.
So basically, to the normies who give us this "advice", you're not being helpful, and if I'm being honest, I suspect you know it.
While I won't say that we all necessarily "just want to be loved", as I don't really associate sexuality with love, the truth is that we want to be wanted. There is absolutely no act that intrinsically displays acceptance like unpaid consensual sex. Between the physical closeness, the intimacy, and perhaps most importantly, the symbolic message to a man telling him that he's good enough for a woman to be willing to bear his children. Now I have some idea about what normies would say to that last bit, that is to say "most sex isn't done for the purpose of reproduction" or something of that nature. Well it simply doesn't matter, at least not from an emotional or psychological perspective, and the difference is equally nonexistent in terms of the sexual selection process of women, all unpaid sex is sending the same message to a man regardless of circumstance. I never intend to have children, yet this unspoken statement is just as important to me as it would be to any other man.
I won't go too much into this(as there are other causes of loneliness), but normies who say that our inceldom has no affect on how lonely we feel is complete bullshit. Having romantic/sexual interactions is one important part of the human experience. While having friends is equally important(something many on this site also entirely lack), these types of relationships won't entirely compensate for being an incel, especially a lifetime virgin.
Although this doesn't apply to all of us, here in the USA normies who tell me this are telling me to break the law, and if the foundation of my ethical framework were my nation's laws(which it isn't), then what they're saying is essentially no different from suggesting that I rape women. Speaking of the USA, do you realize that well over half the men in my country are mutilated? How is that relevant you ask? Well male circumcision, at least when done in the most common manner carried out here, extremely limits the amount of sexual pleasure men are capable of feeling, to the point where both masturbation and sex are done more to satisfy sexual urges than to produce sexual pleasure. The point of that is the incels here in America can't be exclusively(or even mostly) seeking pleasure when the majority of us have an extremely limited capacity to even feel it, which in turn brings me back to my first point, that if this were actually about sex at all then it would be a non issue.
So basically, to the normies who give us this "advice", you're not being helpful, and if I'm being honest, I suspect you know it.