Blackpill The irony of calling Elliot Rodger a "standardcel/volcel" who killed three "ricecels".

[HowCanSheSlap]

Low IQ defence grasping at straws.

I notice a lot of ER haters saying stuff like the following:


Here's a problem with that argument: How do you know that Elliot's roommates were all incels? Perhaps some had experience. Obviously they weren't Chads, but they might have gotten some low tier becky. The reason you assume they were incels is because of their race, asian. Asians on this board (along with Indians) are basically viewed as total truecels.

This makes no sense on your own grounds. Rices tend to be incel by default, denying this is denying the blackpill. But since you say they weren't changs, you can't also say they could've ascended with a Becky; this is an impossibility as a Chang (or Chadpreet/Chaddam) can usually can only do as good as a Becky. Only God-tier Changs and Chadpreets can get a high-tier Becky or Stacey-lite.

However, Elliot Rodger was also part Asian, and he definitely had visible HAPA features. So if you're gonna say that the "ricecels" that Elliot killed were incel because they were ethnic then you can't just ignore the fact that Elliot too was ethnic and therefore at a disadvantage in the sexual marketplace.

His hapa-features prevented him from looking like a full blown ricecel. He had a noodlewhore mother, but nobody is saying Elliot looked like a ricecel. JFL. Nobody is denying he was at a disadvantage because of his ethnicity or his height for that matter. Just pointing out the hypocrisy. And btw, it doesn't seem Elliot was too happy about his background as well.

So anyway, why is the "ricecels" racial disadvantage assumed but Elliot Rodger's racial disadvantage overlooked?

It isn't. It's because he's not a full blown ethnic.

Also, to say he is a volcel is to imply he had girls interested in him but he turned them down, which is a claim with zero evidence other than you saw certain pics where he angle frauded and light frauded to look somewhat decent and assume he had chicks approaching him, when we know that chicks only approach Chad.

JFL no one is saying chicks approached him. In any case, forget about ER. Are you saying volcels or nomies don't exist? This guy was a mentalcel who never tried one bit. He spent hours just sitting in his cars expecting uber-Stacey to make a move on him out of nowhere. Only gigachads get this reception from foids.

 

[muharremabi]

Jesus fucking christ, where is the proof of this? You people constantly make this claim with no evidence

Just watch his vids. He constantly complains about why blonde chicks go for other men over hım.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

I'm pretty sure most women would rate him high or just as a higher than this forum which is why they always talk about how he was good-looking and that it proves that looks weren't his problem.

"I'm pretty sure"

How the fuck do you know? Seriously, how do you know? God the stupidity by you is unbeleivable.

"proves his looks weren't his problem"

Proves? lol that's stupid when the proof is what you're "pretty sure" about.

Just watch his vids. He constantly complains about why blonde chicks go for other men over hım.

That doesn't mean that he had other oppurtunities.

JFL no one is saying chicks approached him. In any case, forget about ER. Are you saying volcels or nomies don't exist? This guy was a mentalcel who never tried one bit. He spent hours just sitting in his cars expecting uber-Stacey to make a move on him out of nowhere. Only gigachads get this reception from foids

Define volcel then. Are you one of those retards that think "volcel if you didn't approach"? Here's a quote by you in another topic:

Legit, asking a female out = thinking that you have a shot = not truecel ugly = fakecel

 

[muharremabi]

He's less of an incel than I am. I can't feel a twinge of sympathy for someone who mogs me so badly, who was low inhib enough to splash his coffee onto a couple of random foids just walking by.

Listening to him complain about being incel is like listening to someone who earns $200k a year complain about being poor because he can't afford a $30 million Upper East Side penthouse apartment.

The fact that he was cucked by a door had no bearing on his inceldom, but it shows he wasn't a saint. Even when he decided to go out in a blaze of glory, he was laughably ineffective.

I would have far more respect for someone who confronted his bullies instead of stabbing a few innocent, sleeping roommates.

Good point. Fuck him i have zero sympathy for him.

 

[PPEcel]

Ok well basically he likes those girls, and those are his ideal girls, but he mentions liking a cute brunette girl too. So we can't just assume Elliot turned down Beckies

He was obsessed with high-status Stacies, i.e. tall white rich 9/10 blonde sorority sluts.

He never explicitly says so in his manifesto but you can by the heated language that the sight of these gigaStacies excited him and yet, at the same time, made him feel a sense of burning shame and inferiority that gradually built into anger.

It makes me wonder if he ever even considered that "lesser" women exist, because his looks are normie-tier.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

He was obsessed with high-status Stacies, i.e. tall white rich 9/10 blonde sorority sluts.

He never explicitly says so in his manifesto but you can by the heated language that the sight of these sluts excited him and yet, at the same time, made him feel a sense of burning shame and inferiority that gradually built into anger.

It makes me wonder if he ever considered that "lesser" women exist, because his looks are normie-tier.

well I will agree that his anger resulted when seeing them but I think it's a leap to say that he didn't see lesser women as existing. I also agree his looks weren't truecel but he had sever mental issues and social isolation from bullying in high school.

 

[Ghost]

You're a retard. JFL at incels who act retarded like you and see Elliot as a Chadlite when he's a 4.5/10

Retards are always dumb.

If he's a 4.5, I must be a 2/10 then...

 

[Sparrow's Song]

Ok well basically he likes those girls, and those are his ideal girls, but he mentions liking a cute brunette girl too. So we can't just assume Elliot turned down Beckies

The brunette was white and high born right?

Cope!

At the end of the day He was a Non NT KHHV Happa Manlet!

Pretty much a fucking Trucel

People just wanna act like he wasn’t in as much pain as they are when you know he felt like shit just like the rest of us!

Yeah, he was an incel in The West. But he had the money to surgerymaxx and escape America. There is no doubt that he experience the pain of inceldom. What killed him in the end is that he didn't know how inferior his face, height, and race made him and his delusion that he could live The American Dream when his face, height, and race would never allow him to ever be a real American anyway.

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

Define volcel then. Are you one of those retards that think "volcel if you didn't approach"? Here's a quote by you in another topic:

JFL you're such a literal-minded cunt. Being a volcel isn't just defined by whether or not you ask someone out. It can or cannot be a part of whether you are a volcel. In ER's case even if he asked out a Stacey - obviously she's gonna say no. If he wasn't a locationcel/mentalcel and asked out a mid-tier Becky - things might've been different.... This is based on his face alone. I know many guys who ER mogs and they have gf's and many have multiple gfs.

Personally, I haven't approached either. But I know at my tender age of 25 it's over anyway.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

JFL you're such a literal-minded cunt. Being a volcel isn't just defined by whether or not you ask someone out. It can or cannot be a part of whether you are a volcel. In ER's case even if he asked out a Stacey - obviously she's gonna say no. If he wasn't a locationcel/mentalcel and asked out a mid-tier Becky - things might've been different.... This is based on his face alone. I know many guys who ER mogs and they have gf's and many have multiple gfs.

Personally, I haven't approached either. But I know at my tender age of 25 it's over anyway.

being a locationcel/mentalcel and being a volcel are not synonymous you fucking retard.

 

[what is happening]

>Elliot Rodger was a fakecel because he killed his ricecel roommates.

"After going through every single fantasy I had about how I would punish my enemies, I started to detail all of my exact plans for how the Day of Retribution will play out.

On the day before the Day of Retribution, I will start the First Phase of my vengeance: Silently killing as many people as I can around Isla Vista by luring them into my apartment through some form of trickery. The first people I would have to kill are my two housemates, to secure the entire apartment for myself as my personal torture and killing chamber.

After that, I will start luring people into my apartment, knock them out with a hammer, and slit their throats. I will torture some of the good looking people before I kill them, assuming that the good looking ones had the best sex lives.

All of that pleasure they had in life, I will punish by bringing them pain and suffering. I have lived a life of pain and suffering, and it was time to bring that pain to people who actually deserve it. I will cut them, flay them, strip all the skin off their flesh, and pour boiling water all over them while they are still alive, as well as any other form of torture I could possibly think of. When they are dead, I will behead them and keep their heads in a bag, for their heads will play a major role in the final phase.

This First Phase will represent my vengeance against all of the men who have had pleasurable sex lives while I’ve had to suffer. Things will be fair once I make them suffer as I did. I will finally even the score."

I'm going to edit in a response to a reply that came after me.

What's with the obsession with going ER?

Why do you constantly disparage poorer people?

Only $247k a year?

Oh well, now you know why many Asian parents make their kids study medicine.

Fuck poor people.

100k is nothing special, but let's be real: everyone has a price.

If you're poor as fuck and someone offered you $10 million to be a sex slave for a year, you'd do it. You'd do it for a year and then retire.

yup, fuck poor people

If you're poor as fuck and aren't academically cut out for a good uni, then yes.

My parents are paying for all my shit so I don't care.

 

[Mogged Loner]

The brunette was white and high born right?


Yeah, he was an incel in The West. But he had the money to surgerymaxx and escape America. There is no doubt that he experience the pain of inceldom. What killed him in the end is that he didn't know how inferior his face, height, and race made him and his delusion that he could live The American Dream when his face, height, and race would never allow him to ever be a real American anyway.

Yeah he was bluepilled as fuck

Tbh I don’t think he could’ve been blackpilled either he was too Non NT

 

[PPEcel]

well I will agree that his anger resulted when seeing them but I think it's a leap to say that he didn't see lesser women as existing. I also agree his looks weren't truecel but he had sever mental issues and social isolation from bullying in high school.

Well, so do all of us

It doesn't make him a saint. There is nothing saintly about him.

Bagelcel is a bigger saint than ER.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

The brunette was white and high born right?


Yeah, he was an incel in The West. But he had the money to surgerymaxx and escape America. There is no doubt that he experience the pain of inceldom. What killed him in the end is that he didn't know how inferior his face, height, and race made him and his delusion that he could live The American Dream when his face, height, and race would never allow him to ever be a real American anyway.

I don't know if she was white and high born (what does high born mean btw? WASP) He also liked Maddie humphries, who was part latina, so that is also a case of elliot liking a non white-blonde girl

Also to say Elliot could have SEAmaxxed implies he had comprehensive blackpill knowledge, which he didn't. You can't exercise an option if you're not aware of it.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

Bagelcel is a bigger saint than ER.

St. Bagelcel has suffered more than ER would suffer in twenty lifetimes...

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

being a locationcel/mentalcel and being a volcel are not synonymous you fucking retard.

I never said or implied they were low IQcel. I just used a slash between the two as an expression to say he faced the double penalty of location and mental health issues. Do you even English bro?

 

[Personalityinkwell]

St. Bagelcel has suffered more than ER would suffer in twenty lifetimes...

St. Bagelcel doesn't have the balls to go ER

I never said or implied they were low IQcel. I just used a slash between the two as an expression to say he faced the double penalty of location and mental health issues. Do you even English bro?

You said he was a volcel then later said he was a mentalcel/locationcel

 

[PPEcel]

I don't know if she was white and high born (what does high born mean btw? WASP) He also liked Maddie humphries, who was part latina, so that is also a case of elliot liking a non white-blonde girl

Congratulations, he liked one (maybe two?) girl who weren't conventionally attractive white blondes, that means we should give him sainthood.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Congratulations, he liked one (maybe two?) girl who weren't conventionally attractive white blondes, that means we should give him sainthood.

No, never said that, nice strawman nerd.

 

[PPEcel]

St. Bagelcel doesn't have the balls to go ER

What's with the obsession with going ER?

 

[Sparrow's Song]

I don't know if she was white and high born (what does high born mean btw? WASP) He also liked Maddie humphries, who was part latina, so that is also a case of elliot liking a non white-blonde girl

Also to say Elliot could have SEAmaxxed implies he had comprehensive blackpill knowledge, which he didn't. You can't exercise an option if you're not aware of it.

Was Lookism around back then? If so, he could have gone on there and gotten advice for surgical salvation.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

What's with the obsession with going ER?

I'm not obsessed but people give Elliot shit because he didn't break into the sorority house but in reality he did more than any person here could do becuase Elliot had a pair of balls

 

[PPEcel]

No, never said that, nice strawman nerd.

Is "nerd" supposed to be an insult?

You're a LARPing normie who thinks this forum is about being an edgelord. You don't sound like an incel at all.

I'm not obsessed but people give Elliot shit because he didn't break into the sorority house but in reality he did more than any person here could do becuase Elliot had a pair of balls

Why don't you do it and show us how it's done?

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Was Lookism around back then? If so, he could have gone on there and gotten advice for surgical salvation.

Lookism was in 2015, plus you have to be aware of lookism nit just have it exist. (although elliot did find puahate)

 

[PPEcel]

St. Bagelcel has suffered more than ER would suffer in twenty lifetimes...

Oh yeah, bagelcel really had a lot of things that were going against him

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

You said he was a volcel then later said he was a mentalcel/locationcel

They aren't mutually exclusive. They don't cancel each other out. Can a wristcel not be a heightcel? Or a nosecel not be a dickcel?

In fact, it's usually mentalcels who are the biggest volcel. JFL.

No point arguing with you. Obviously can't comprehend a point other than in black and white.

 

[TheSecondComing]

I see

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Is "nerd" supposed to be an insult?

You're a LARPing normie who thinks this forum is about being an edgelord. You don't sound like an incel at all.

Why don't you do it and show us how it's done?

LOL nice try FBI.

and stop with the gatekeeping, I'm not a normie I've never had sex without an escort.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

St. Bagelcel doesn't have the balls to go ER

Going ER doesn't make you a saint, the saints who went ER were saints before they went ER. Sainthood is bestowed upon those who have experience significantly more intense levels of incel suffering than the average incel. St.BlackOpsIIcel is a saint because he is significantly uglier than most users who post here (mogs me though)... Sainthood is usually either given to extremely ugly men who are known by the BlackPilled community, men who have experienced inceldom and went ER, or men who have made significant efforts against femoids, feminism, or cuckolds.

 

[PPEcel]

You said he was a volcel then later said he was a mentalcel/locationcel

He was all three.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

They aren't mutually exclusive. They don't cancel each other out. Can a wristcel not be a heightcel? Or a nosecel not be a dickcel?

In fact, it's usually mentalcels who are the biggest volcel. JFL.

No point arguing with you. Obviously can't comprehend a point other than in black and white.

No I can understand points not in black and white but you seem to be making assumptions about Elliot's chances with foids because he was better looking than you

Going ER doesn't make you a saint, the saints who went ER were saints before they went ER. Sainthood is bestowed upon those who have experience significantly more intense levels of incel suffering than the average incel. St.BlackOpsIIcel is a saint because he is significantly uglier than most users who post here (mogs me though)... Sainthood is usually either given to extremely ugly men who are known by the BlackPilled community, men who have experienced inceldom and went ER, or men who have made significant efforts against femoids, feminism, or cuckolds.

Elliot did experience inceldom and went ER.

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

No I can understand points not in black and white but you seem to be making assumptions about Elliot's chances with foids because he was better looking than you

A general truth that can be derived from the blackpill is: the more better looking, the greater chances of ascension.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

A general truth that can be derived from the blackpill is: the more better looking, the greater chances of ascension.

Well yes, of course. But to say Elliot was volcel would imply he had oppurtunities when he didn't. He had no social circle to meet foids and he wasn't Chad enough for Tinder so his only option was cold approach and since his social skills were shit that wouldn't have worked either. Therefore Elliot was an incel

 

[PPEcel]

LOL nice try FBI.

and stop with the gatekeeping, I'm not a normie I've never had sex without an escort.

Oh, I'm gatekeeping?

No, it's just pretty suspicious that you think there is something morally questionable about being a "nerd". How much soy have you consoomed recently?

 

[what is happening]

What's with the obsession with going ER?

See my post at the top of page two.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Oh, I'm gatekeeping?

No, it's just pretty suspicious that you think there is something morally questionable about being a "nerd". How much soy have you consoomed recently?

No it's just you think you're a special incel because you're worse looking than ER. I don't consume soy at all

 

[PPEcel]

Well yes, of course. But to say Elliot was volcel would imply he had oppurtunities when he didn't. He had no social circle to meet foids and he wasn't Chad enough for Tinder so his only option was cold approach and since his social skills were shit that wouldn't have worked either. Therefore Elliot was an incel

He's supposed to build a social circle. He was just too lazy to bother and expected Stacies to throw themselves at him.

You're only an incel if your looks are so subhuman that you can't build a social circle. This is true for most of us here, but it was not the case for ER. He wasn't a manlet, he wasn't a full-on ricecel, he wasn't poor.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

Lookism was in 2015, plus you have to be aware of lookism nit just have it exist. (although elliot did find puahate)

So basically, ignorance is the main factor in St.Elliot's demise. Had he known exactly everything that was subhuman about him and used his wealth to surgerymaxx and escape Hellmerica, ER wouldn't have even gone ER.

 

[PPEcel]

Why do you constantly disparage poorer people?

If you can't see that most of those cherry picked, out-of-context quotes are meant as tongue-in-cheek responses, you're not very smart.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

He's supposed to build a social circle. He was just too lazy to bother and expected Stacies to throw themselves at him.

You're only an incel if your looks are so subhuman that you can't build a social circle. This is true for most of us here, but it was not the case for ER. He wasn't a manlet, he wasn't a full-on ricecel, he wasn't poor.

Elliot had horrible social skills and couldn't build a social circle. He was bullied and traumatized in high school and had to flee to that alternative school. He committed social suicide by focusing on playing World of Warcraft, then at College he was weak socially and couldn't build one.

So basically, ignorance is the main factor in St.Elliot's demise. Had he known exactly everything that was subhuman about him and used his wealth to surgerymaxx and escape Hellmerica, ER wouldn't have even gone ER.

I think it's a big factor, not necessarily the main one. But yes, not being aware of certain oppurtunities will definitely fuck you in life.

 

[The Incel Decade]

Elliot roger is a chadlite. JFL at incels who worship Chad.

Chad always wins

He's a 6 at the most with autism which automatically knocks another 3 points off. He was also in Chadifornia.

 

[solblue]

People call ER’s roommates incel because of their looks and not explicitly their race. It’s the same way St. Blackops2cel became an incel icon from a single photo.

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

Well yes, of course. But to say Elliot was volcel would imply he had oppurtunities when he didn't.

You're moving the goalposts.

Whether he had 'opportunities' or not is hard to evaluate - one thing we know for certain is that he was in one of the Chaddiest place in the world and had ridiculously high standards. In any case, this isn't the case for 99% of incels here.

He had no social circle to meet foids and he wasn't Chad enough for Tinder. so his only option was cold approach and since his social skills were shit that wouldn't have worked either. Therefore Elliot was an incel

Many non-Chads have no social circle to meet foids and most men aren't Chad enough to be on Tinder regardless of whether you're in California or not. That doesn't mean they're incel. Seems like you're coming full circle to my point without realizing it.

The MAIN POINT at the crux of the matter is that ER felt like an incel and reading his manifesto obviously a lot of us identify with it. But anyone can feel like an incel - that's usually prerequisite to being a fakecel or volcel. A lot of guys here will kill to look like him in order to ascend.

 

[PPEcel]

Chaddiest

Chad, Chadder, Chaddiest

 

[Personalityinkwell]

You're moving the goalposts.

Whether he had 'opportunities' or not is hard to evaluate - one thing we know for certain is that he was in one of the Chaddiest place in the world and had ridiculously high standards. In any case, this isn't the case for 99% of incels here.

I disagree he had high standards. To say "we know for sure" implies it's an undisputed fact when it's not.

Many non-Chads have no social circle to meet foids and most men aren't Chad enough to be on Tinder regardless of whether you're in California or not. That doesn't mean they're incel. Seems like you're coming full circle to my point without realizing it.

The MAIN POINT at the crux of the matter is that ER felt like an incel and reading his manifesto obviously a lot of us identify with it. But anyone can feel like an incel - that's usually prerequisite to being a fakecel or volcel. A lot of guys here will kill to look like him in order to ascend.

What's your definition of incel then? If you can't get laid without a hooker? How was Elliot supposed to get laid then? Seriously, explain how he could get laid. If he can't, he's incel

 

[Deleted member 14805]

He's a 6 at the most with autism which automatically knocks another 3 points off. He was also in Chadifornia.

6? He was a 4 dude. He's a manlet, autistic, had small wrists, had feminine features, weak jaw, I could go on, combine that with his refusal to approach and no social circle, its definitely curtains for him. All he had was wealth and that was it. He was damn well not a 6, that's high tier normie, he's a low tier normie at BEST.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

6? He was a 4 dude. He's a manlet, autistic, had small wrists, had feminine features, weak jaw, I could go on, combine that with his refusal to approach and no social circle, its definitely curtains for him. All he had was wealth and that was it. He was damn well not a 6, that's high tier normie, he's a low tier normie at BEST.

Exactly, people calling him a 6 are retarded. I can understand calling him a 5. (I give him a 4.5), but 6 is retarded

 

[WawelDragon1683]

He was a hapa manlet living in california. It was over for him from the beginning.

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

What's your definition of incel then?

All things considered equal, If you mog st.Elliot you aren't an incel.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

All things considered equal, If you mog st.Elliot you aren't an incel.

Ok... well Elliot didn't mog Elliot (not trying to be captain obvious). What logic determines Elliot wasn't incel. The idea that he was high tier normie (a 6?)

He was a hapa manlet living in california. It was over for him from the beginning.