It's easy to get distracted from all the conversations, back-and-forth argumentation here and start to think our fellow men as logic based machines you can goad towards the correct direction with the correct parameters, but that would be far from the truth. If you've ever committed the grave mistake of trying to reason with a bluepilled soyboy or gaslighting roastie in a normie shithole website like cuckit or twatter, or if you are jaded enough to brave the harassment and "cancelation", in real life you would know that no amount of well formulated arguments, no amount of credible, scientific studies will ever compel a normie troglodyte to budge even an inch from its well entrenched bluepill delusions. But why is this the case? Why can't I just have a civil debate and why can't they acknowledge defeat when they can't refute my points?
To start, we need to remind ourselves that our line of rational, analytical thinking is pretty new in our evolutionary history. Even with the wildest stretch of definition and most generous estimates, it's not older than a few ten thousand years. Humans, for the overwhelming majority of their history, acted and thought with their instincts. Even today, majority of human actions are still instinct based,(Do you actively need to formulate words and consciously plan everything out when you are eating, walking, scratching yourself etc.?) and majority of the time, when in conflict, instincts supersede rational part of the human brain.(That's why people start fighting over dumb shit when they are angry even though there is no logical benefit, or how fat people can't stop stuffing their faces with food even though rational part of their brains screams at them that they must stop, etc.)
So, what does exactly prevent normans from seeing the light? Is it instincts? Yes, that's exactly the main reason, or more precisely the prosocial drives human evolved(just like many other animals that live in groups). These drives, serving to facilitate bonds between each member of any given tribe and decrease social conflict quite literally scream at the normie brain and give a loud and clear halt signal to their minds when they tread into any dangerous territory that might cause them to be at odds with their societies. As outdated and pseudo-scientific as it is, the way 19th century psycho-analysis counted super-ego, basically same thing as what I described, among one of the three fundamental forces of the human mind, is very useful to visualize how important this drive is to the "normal human". This is also how social taboos work, normie brains quite literally short circuit when you say rape, pedophilia, incest, etc. You can quite distinctively perceive the distress and anxiety in them when these topics come up. That's also why the rare normie discussion you see on these topics are extremely stagnant and basically consists entirely of normies loudly proclaiming same banal, safe tirades, desperately trying to affirm their positions as socially safe in order to soothe their instinctive worries about straying away from the social normal and risking backlash. Worth noting that shutting down rational discussion and replacing it with ultra-stagnant useless discourse hamstrings any chance that normie society can progress and solve these issues, but that's not really my topic today.
They can see us spell every single bit of the female BS out, point out the absurd, hypocritical and hypergamous nature of dating patterns backed with plethora of experimental data but they will never be able to say "Yes, women are cunts" because the prosocial instincts will kick in as a fail safe against the oh so big no no misogyny. They will use every horseshit logical fallacy in the book to justify their nonsensical position, and in the rare scenario where they run out of BS, they will simply choose to ignore our evidence and arguments. There is also an inconsistency to highlight in normie thought patterns as it goes both ways. These prosocial instincts not only entrench normie positions against rational change it can also force them to change their minds as the window of what's socially acceptable shifts towards a direction. An average Joe could have said "I hate faggots, they are disease ridden animals who groom kids, I hope they die out of AIDS" ten years ago and today he could say "I wish our society was less homophobic, it saddens me to see politicians push for legislation that harms sexual minorities. We need to create a more accepting environment where our kids can explore their sexuality." without a hint of irony. It's closely related to the concept of "I support the current thing."
in normie discourse. Up to some point being "socially safe" acts as a shield against any cognitive dissonance a normie might feel, preventing him from questioning the blatant hypocrisies and contradictions around him. That's why they can say "Looks don't matter sweetie" with a straight face while looking at the dating site data or couples around them screaming that it in fact does fucking matter. Looks mattering is not the wholesome chungus narrative society is built upon. Because that would imply society is unjust against the ugly bottom of the barrel like us, and acknowledging that would tumble down many chains of self-congratulatory lies society is built upon like a domino, depriving normies from what they believe to be the moral high ground against the evil misogynist incels. And that would make it harder to keep the status quo roasties and Chads benefit from, also making it harder to gaslight us, which is what they love to do so fucking much.
But how did us, incels surmount these drives, shed the bluepill and reached the blackpill? There are three groups among humans who do not feel these instincts, feel it in reduced capacity or moved past them. That allows them to see through society's BS, and reach socially unsafe, "wrongthink" conclusion.
1) The outcasts: A life time of social ostracization and bitter resentment against the unjust BS thrown at them weakens their connection and their ability to give a fuck about social expectations. Most incels are in this category. "Why should I care about a rotten society who treats me like an animal?"
2) The sociopaths: These have either zero, or very reduced empathy due to fucked up biology or upbringing. As they still have the looks, charms and social skills however, they choose to play along with societies BS while privately advancing their agendas against what they publicly say. The Hollywood director who posts random crap about social justice in normie internet and publicly donates paltry sum to random charities while raping kids on a private island falls under this category.
3) The ascended: While I lack conclusive evidence, I believe that with extreme, extreme amount of meditation, deliberation put into understanding one's personal biases, and working through them without straying from rational thought even for a second, it is possible attain a higher understanding of the society and move past instinctive thought constrains, without being an outcast or a sociopath. Practically reaching the ideal Übermensch mind. This must be once in a million rare however, perhaps even rarer. Possibly philosophers like Maxx Stirner and Diogenes fall under this category.
The normie horde falls under none of these categories. They are not outcasts like us, most humans feel empathy(not against socially no no groups though so its useless for how they treat us evil incels), and average normie won't ever put the time and effort required to develop self-awareness even if their life depended on it. With this in mind, I conclusively believe that it's a waste of time and effort to attempt to reason with normies. No matter how hard we try to present our ideas in a perfect way, due to their fundamental biology, it won't fucking work. Only thing we will get is more illogical and fallacious bluepill horseshit, and the insufferable, never ending gaslighting(Just work on that personality sweetie tee hee). The only reasonable endeavor in our quest would be to reach out other incels who are still brainwashed by society to believe in the bluepill, and maybe reach out to failed normies who feel enough frustration and resentment to give a fuck about and acknowledge our ideas. Still with how much we get censored out of mainstream discourse by people who control it, I do not think incel politics will ever be a real thing, at least for the foreseeable future. We are seemingly fucked with no way out. I know how everyone feels about presenting problems without also providing solution but a)the solution seemingly does not exist b)brocels here should probably stop wasting time with giving attention to the likes of r/TrannyTear, which is mainly why I wrote this.
TLDR: Average normie is instinctively afraid of getting backlash from society if they do or say no no things. The non-PC aspects of the blackpill like "misogyny" scares them and the cognitive dissonance causes them to irrationally lash out when we logically beat them.
To start, we need to remind ourselves that our line of rational, analytical thinking is pretty new in our evolutionary history. Even with the wildest stretch of definition and most generous estimates, it's not older than a few ten thousand years. Humans, for the overwhelming majority of their history, acted and thought with their instincts. Even today, majority of human actions are still instinct based,(Do you actively need to formulate words and consciously plan everything out when you are eating, walking, scratching yourself etc.?) and majority of the time, when in conflict, instincts supersede rational part of the human brain.(That's why people start fighting over dumb shit when they are angry even though there is no logical benefit, or how fat people can't stop stuffing their faces with food even though rational part of their brains screams at them that they must stop, etc.)
So, what does exactly prevent normans from seeing the light? Is it instincts? Yes, that's exactly the main reason, or more precisely the prosocial drives human evolved(just like many other animals that live in groups). These drives, serving to facilitate bonds between each member of any given tribe and decrease social conflict quite literally scream at the normie brain and give a loud and clear halt signal to their minds when they tread into any dangerous territory that might cause them to be at odds with their societies. As outdated and pseudo-scientific as it is, the way 19th century psycho-analysis counted super-ego, basically same thing as what I described, among one of the three fundamental forces of the human mind, is very useful to visualize how important this drive is to the "normal human". This is also how social taboos work, normie brains quite literally short circuit when you say rape, pedophilia, incest, etc. You can quite distinctively perceive the distress and anxiety in them when these topics come up. That's also why the rare normie discussion you see on these topics are extremely stagnant and basically consists entirely of normies loudly proclaiming same banal, safe tirades, desperately trying to affirm their positions as socially safe in order to soothe their instinctive worries about straying away from the social normal and risking backlash. Worth noting that shutting down rational discussion and replacing it with ultra-stagnant useless discourse hamstrings any chance that normie society can progress and solve these issues, but that's not really my topic today.
They can see us spell every single bit of the female BS out, point out the absurd, hypocritical and hypergamous nature of dating patterns backed with plethora of experimental data but they will never be able to say "Yes, women are cunts" because the prosocial instincts will kick in as a fail safe against the oh so big no no misogyny. They will use every horseshit logical fallacy in the book to justify their nonsensical position, and in the rare scenario where they run out of BS, they will simply choose to ignore our evidence and arguments. There is also an inconsistency to highlight in normie thought patterns as it goes both ways. These prosocial instincts not only entrench normie positions against rational change it can also force them to change their minds as the window of what's socially acceptable shifts towards a direction. An average Joe could have said "I hate faggots, they are disease ridden animals who groom kids, I hope they die out of AIDS" ten years ago and today he could say "I wish our society was less homophobic, it saddens me to see politicians push for legislation that harms sexual minorities. We need to create a more accepting environment where our kids can explore their sexuality." without a hint of irony. It's closely related to the concept of "I support the current thing."
in normie discourse. Up to some point being "socially safe" acts as a shield against any cognitive dissonance a normie might feel, preventing him from questioning the blatant hypocrisies and contradictions around him. That's why they can say "Looks don't matter sweetie" with a straight face while looking at the dating site data or couples around them screaming that it in fact does fucking matter. Looks mattering is not the wholesome chungus narrative society is built upon. Because that would imply society is unjust against the ugly bottom of the barrel like us, and acknowledging that would tumble down many chains of self-congratulatory lies society is built upon like a domino, depriving normies from what they believe to be the moral high ground against the evil misogynist incels. And that would make it harder to keep the status quo roasties and Chads benefit from, also making it harder to gaslight us, which is what they love to do so fucking much.But how did us, incels surmount these drives, shed the bluepill and reached the blackpill? There are three groups among humans who do not feel these instincts, feel it in reduced capacity or moved past them. That allows them to see through society's BS, and reach socially unsafe, "wrongthink" conclusion.
1) The outcasts: A life time of social ostracization and bitter resentment against the unjust BS thrown at them weakens their connection and their ability to give a fuck about social expectations. Most incels are in this category. "Why should I care about a rotten society who treats me like an animal?"
2) The sociopaths: These have either zero, or very reduced empathy due to fucked up biology or upbringing. As they still have the looks, charms and social skills however, they choose to play along with societies BS while privately advancing their agendas against what they publicly say. The Hollywood director who posts random crap about social justice in normie internet and publicly donates paltry sum to random charities while raping kids on a private island falls under this category.
3) The ascended: While I lack conclusive evidence, I believe that with extreme, extreme amount of meditation, deliberation put into understanding one's personal biases, and working through them without straying from rational thought even for a second, it is possible attain a higher understanding of the society and move past instinctive thought constrains, without being an outcast or a sociopath. Practically reaching the ideal Übermensch mind. This must be once in a million rare however, perhaps even rarer. Possibly philosophers like Maxx Stirner and Diogenes fall under this category.
The normie horde falls under none of these categories. They are not outcasts like us, most humans feel empathy(not against socially no no groups though so its useless for how they treat us evil incels), and average normie won't ever put the time and effort required to develop self-awareness even if their life depended on it. With this in mind, I conclusively believe that it's a waste of time and effort to attempt to reason with normies. No matter how hard we try to present our ideas in a perfect way, due to their fundamental biology, it won't fucking work. Only thing we will get is more illogical and fallacious bluepill horseshit, and the insufferable, never ending gaslighting(Just work on that personality sweetie tee hee
). The only reasonable endeavor in our quest would be to reach out other incels who are still brainwashed by society to believe in the bluepill, and maybe reach out to failed normies who feel enough frustration and resentment to give a fuck about and acknowledge our ideas. Still with how much we get censored out of mainstream discourse by people who control it, I do not think incel politics will ever be a real thing, at least for the foreseeable future. We are seemingly fucked with no way out. I know how everyone feels about presenting problems without also providing solution but a)the solution seemingly does not exist b)brocels here should probably stop wasting time with giving attention to the likes of r/TrannyTear, which is mainly why I wrote this.TLDR: Average normie is instinctively afraid of getting backlash from society if they do or say no no things. The non-PC aspects of the blackpill like "misogyny" scares them and the cognitive dissonance causes them to irrationally lash out when we logically beat them.
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