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For my first post in here I'll write a short story of some of the things my non blackpilled non sexhaver friends have said throught the years. Honestly their experiences have blackpilled me along the years and made me realize how the world really does work. It's insane to me how they haven't realized the very clear and obvious explanation for the problems they face, which is the blackpill. I don't blame them too much though since they're normiepilled and kind of hesitant to truly accept that we most likely won't have any future relationships.
There are two main friends involved in this story. I'll call them Joseph and John. Joseph is 21, slightly above average IQ, introverted, doesn't talk to girls very often or any person he doesn't know for that matter. His looks are very below average. His face doesn't have any redeeming features: a lot of upper and lower eyelid exposure, lots of acne, mouth breathing, small and slightly recessed jaw, negative canthal tilt. He is also relatively short and doesn't take too much care of himself.
John is also 21. He had certain problems during his childhood which have led him to have a noticeable below average IQ, difficulty speaking, and slightly below average appearance. He isn't glaringly ugly like Joseph, since he noticeably takes care of himself, but still isn't anywhere close to good-looking.
Neither of them have been in a serious relationship.
Two other important friends are A and B. You don't have to know much about them, just that they have very good features and are very good looking and appealing to girls. A has a very good eye region and is tall, B is a bit short, but has the typical chad face.
I remember one time long before I even knew about the blackpill when we were walking along the road together. I don/t specifically remember what we were talking about, but John turned to us and said something like "I don't understand why every single girl in our class likes Chad." Chad was a guy in our class which was constantly surrounded by all the women. He was a confident guy, and also had an extremely good appearance: defined jaw, good forward growth, highset cheekbones, wide face, etc... you understand the idea. "Yeah me too" said Joseph "He doesn't really have any features which make him stand out, besides being good looking". I didn't think about it too much at the time but now I remember that moment and I realise he really didn't have any features that made him stand out besides the only one that women actually care about which is good looks.
A few months after this, Joseph started having a crush on this one girl from our class. She was pretty but not very intelligent. They usually talked using whatsapp. He invited her to go to the cinema and it seemed like it was going well. We even went to where their date was to give him emotional support. I could, however, tell that she wasn't super interested in him. It didn't look like she was having a very fun afternoon and she very quickly left the date. They didn't talk too much afterwards for a long time. We tried to convince him to ask her out for another date, and he did invite her to another encounter, which she said was only a friendly one, not a date. After the encounter, she said she was confused about their relationship and that she didn't know what to think of, after which Joseph never talked to her again and neither did she. I eventually texted her, trying to understand what may have happened, and she explained that they had "different opinions on certain topics" which led her to reject him. She also mentioned that she had fallen in love with another guy while she was on holidays, and that her interest in Joseph quickly started to decrease after that.
At the time, I didn't consider this story to be particularly blackpilling.
This is where A enters the story. We eventually found out that A had had sort of a relationship with Joseph's crush. The DMs she sent him were just awful, and not in the sense that she was awful with him. She was constantly calling him, begging him to give her attention and asking stuff like "Whats your favorite thing about me?". He only sent a picture of her with her butt circled. It didn't matter. She kept on messaging him. She begged him to answer her for hours without end and he usually simply replied with something along the lines of "I'm going to talk to someone else". Whenever he said this, she started frantically imploring him to stay and to talk to her. He didn't care.
I felt quite bad after finding this out. Our friend A looked quite amused by the story and Joseph tried to laugh at it, but he obviously wasn't finding it so funny.
A few months passed and while I was talking to Joseph, the topic of relationships eventually came up. I still wasn't a blackpiller but already knew what the ideology stood for. At the time, I thought it was infantile and that it mainly applied to people who didn't put in the work or were extremely socially awkward. Joseph started talking about how his relationship had ended and how he wasn't mad with her, etc. One thing he mentioned was that she had told him about her other crushes. I found it quite despicable that she would ever tell something like that to someone who was trying to date her. She had liked Chad and another extremely tall guy from our class. I made fun of him for a bit, but he wasn't so fond of it for obvious reasons. I really did feel bad for him on the inside to be honest.
A few weeks after this, our friend B comes up to us after school and tells us what had happened during classes. We were having a maths test and Josephs crush and A went to a class to clarify the questions they had relating to math. Our friend B had also gone there. He told us that A started touching the girls leg while the teacher was explaining what they had to study. She didnt do anything, just stood there and accepted the fact he started touching her out of nowhere. Joseph was heartbroken and I also found it extremely weird how she didnt do anything.
Fast forward to a few months ago. At this time I was already completely aware of the incel ideology. My life experiences plus my love for research related to relationships had led me to conclude the obvious truth I tried to hide from myself. I had already accepted that looks were the primary factor in a relationship and that there was no way to go around that.
Joseph hadn't talked to his crush for a long time and she didn't talk to him either. Everything was just kind of "still" in his life. Not too many friends, no gfs, he spent most of his time at home and wasn't very talkative even to us. We started noticing something though, and this is where B joins the story. Josephs crush had started to look at B differently. She started talking to him a lot more. During classes, she would sit next to him, during PE she would run with him. They basically had never talked before this. Once, she sent me a dm asking about something related to our classes. Out of nowhere, she sent a picture of him saying something like "Hes pretty beautiful, isnt he?". I didnt know what to answer. I just felt so bad for Joseph at that moment. All this time, he had been trying to fight for this girl just for her to start loving some chad out of the blue.
Up to this day she keeps on talking to him in this very weird and suggestive way Id say, nothing like the way she talks to other guys.
I was planning on explaining johns situation here but this is already too long, so ill keep that for another day ig. Josephs story was enough to fully convince me of the blackpill. He still copes to this day and says that personality is king and that looks dont matter that much. Im not too surprised tbh since he is like this on every other issue relating to politics. Hes always the enlightened centrist which doesnt take any other position besides the one that everyone ought to have.
There are two main friends involved in this story. I'll call them Joseph and John. Joseph is 21, slightly above average IQ, introverted, doesn't talk to girls very often or any person he doesn't know for that matter. His looks are very below average. His face doesn't have any redeeming features: a lot of upper and lower eyelid exposure, lots of acne, mouth breathing, small and slightly recessed jaw, negative canthal tilt. He is also relatively short and doesn't take too much care of himself.
John is also 21. He had certain problems during his childhood which have led him to have a noticeable below average IQ, difficulty speaking, and slightly below average appearance. He isn't glaringly ugly like Joseph, since he noticeably takes care of himself, but still isn't anywhere close to good-looking.
Neither of them have been in a serious relationship.
Two other important friends are A and B. You don't have to know much about them, just that they have very good features and are very good looking and appealing to girls. A has a very good eye region and is tall, B is a bit short, but has the typical chad face.
I remember one time long before I even knew about the blackpill when we were walking along the road together. I don/t specifically remember what we were talking about, but John turned to us and said something like "I don't understand why every single girl in our class likes Chad." Chad was a guy in our class which was constantly surrounded by all the women. He was a confident guy, and also had an extremely good appearance: defined jaw, good forward growth, highset cheekbones, wide face, etc... you understand the idea. "Yeah me too" said Joseph "He doesn't really have any features which make him stand out, besides being good looking". I didn't think about it too much at the time but now I remember that moment and I realise he really didn't have any features that made him stand out besides the only one that women actually care about which is good looks.
A few months after this, Joseph started having a crush on this one girl from our class. She was pretty but not very intelligent. They usually talked using whatsapp. He invited her to go to the cinema and it seemed like it was going well. We even went to where their date was to give him emotional support. I could, however, tell that she wasn't super interested in him. It didn't look like she was having a very fun afternoon and she very quickly left the date. They didn't talk too much afterwards for a long time. We tried to convince him to ask her out for another date, and he did invite her to another encounter, which she said was only a friendly one, not a date. After the encounter, she said she was confused about their relationship and that she didn't know what to think of, after which Joseph never talked to her again and neither did she. I eventually texted her, trying to understand what may have happened, and she explained that they had "different opinions on certain topics" which led her to reject him. She also mentioned that she had fallen in love with another guy while she was on holidays, and that her interest in Joseph quickly started to decrease after that.
At the time, I didn't consider this story to be particularly blackpilling.
This is where A enters the story. We eventually found out that A had had sort of a relationship with Joseph's crush. The DMs she sent him were just awful, and not in the sense that she was awful with him. She was constantly calling him, begging him to give her attention and asking stuff like "Whats your favorite thing about me?". He only sent a picture of her with her butt circled. It didn't matter. She kept on messaging him. She begged him to answer her for hours without end and he usually simply replied with something along the lines of "I'm going to talk to someone else". Whenever he said this, she started frantically imploring him to stay and to talk to her. He didn't care.
I felt quite bad after finding this out. Our friend A looked quite amused by the story and Joseph tried to laugh at it, but he obviously wasn't finding it so funny.
A few months passed and while I was talking to Joseph, the topic of relationships eventually came up. I still wasn't a blackpiller but already knew what the ideology stood for. At the time, I thought it was infantile and that it mainly applied to people who didn't put in the work or were extremely socially awkward. Joseph started talking about how his relationship had ended and how he wasn't mad with her, etc. One thing he mentioned was that she had told him about her other crushes. I found it quite despicable that she would ever tell something like that to someone who was trying to date her. She had liked Chad and another extremely tall guy from our class. I made fun of him for a bit, but he wasn't so fond of it for obvious reasons. I really did feel bad for him on the inside to be honest.
A few weeks after this, our friend B comes up to us after school and tells us what had happened during classes. We were having a maths test and Josephs crush and A went to a class to clarify the questions they had relating to math. Our friend B had also gone there. He told us that A started touching the girls leg while the teacher was explaining what they had to study. She didnt do anything, just stood there and accepted the fact he started touching her out of nowhere. Joseph was heartbroken and I also found it extremely weird how she didnt do anything.
Fast forward to a few months ago. At this time I was already completely aware of the incel ideology. My life experiences plus my love for research related to relationships had led me to conclude the obvious truth I tried to hide from myself. I had already accepted that looks were the primary factor in a relationship and that there was no way to go around that.
Joseph hadn't talked to his crush for a long time and she didn't talk to him either. Everything was just kind of "still" in his life. Not too many friends, no gfs, he spent most of his time at home and wasn't very talkative even to us. We started noticing something though, and this is where B joins the story. Josephs crush had started to look at B differently. She started talking to him a lot more. During classes, she would sit next to him, during PE she would run with him. They basically had never talked before this. Once, she sent me a dm asking about something related to our classes. Out of nowhere, she sent a picture of him saying something like "Hes pretty beautiful, isnt he?". I didnt know what to answer. I just felt so bad for Joseph at that moment. All this time, he had been trying to fight for this girl just for her to start loving some chad out of the blue.
Up to this day she keeps on talking to him in this very weird and suggestive way Id say, nothing like the way she talks to other guys.
I was planning on explaining johns situation here but this is already too long, so ill keep that for another day ig. Josephs story was enough to fully convince me of the blackpill. He still copes to this day and says that personality is king and that looks dont matter that much. Im not too surprised tbh since he is like this on every other issue relating to politics. Hes always the enlightened centrist which doesnt take any other position besides the one that everyone ought to have.





