The Crisis of Meaning and the problem of Nihilism

[TheHungariancel]

Taking the blackpill naturally leaves you to be nihilistic. The thinking patterns that you go through after being exposed to these ideas necessarily lead you to a nihilistic view of existence, politics, society, human relationships, religion etc.



It’s not surprising: the blackpill is evolutionarily reductionist, meaning it reduces everything in human life to primal, instinctual drives. Every argument the blackpill and redpill makes points to instincts rooted in evolution. Hypergamy, women’s preference for strong jawlines, broad shoulders, as indicators of masculinity, height, status etc. The materialism of the blackpill reduces everything to these primal desires and the ultimate goal only goes for survival and the preservation of our genes.



This worldview leaves no space for “higher goals”, God or morals. Nothing. Just the atoms and molecules, the flesh and bones.



Nihilism is not new to me: I’ve been a nihilist pretty much ever since I was 15 and that was 5 years before I got blackpilled at 20. At that time, I felt like Nietzsche after he read Schopenhauer’s The world as will and representation. Depression, deep sadness and despair; is this life? Is this really it? It just cannot be! I started looking for meaning. Not in the Nietzschean way of creating my own values (I hadn’t even heard of Nietzsche at the time), but by turning to Christianity, to God. I was actually interested in Christianity and religion in general. At one point I was even considering becoming a priest or a monk to dedicate my life to serve God.

I gradually lost my faith in God and christian ethics throughout my teenage years. Part of it was personal - lack of discipline, hypocrisy (both mine and others’), and part of it came from studying history. The more I learned, the more I realized that morality isn’t objective and that religion, for the most part, has been just a tool for control over people.

Just as I lost the last remnants of my faith, I discovered the redpill, and later the blackpill - which only reinforced the nihilism I’d already been developing. The blackpill destroyed my old self and I had to reevaluate every belief I held, every ideology, idea I supported and was forced to create a new worldview.

Nihilism is a plague because it paralyzes your soul. If relationships are fake, if every ideology, religion, and political system is fake, then why bother doing anything at all?

"Well, yeah bro, it's all meaningless, if you don't believe in anything, believe in yourself at least." - most people would say.
That mindset doesn’t help much. "Believing in yourself," as I understand it, means having the confidence that you can overcome life’s challenges. It means believing that you can make it. But that’s not belief in the sense of meaning or purpose, it’s just a useful psychological trick to keep yourself afloat. The phrase “believe in yourself” is really just another way of saying, “have confidence and a positive self-image.” Sure, those are important, but they don’t solve the problem of meaninglessness. If everything is meaningless, then why should I even bother trying to build confidence? For what? If I get no reward in the end, why should I suffer for nothing?

Whenever I try to believe in something sooner or later I end up back at nihilism. I kind of envy those who can dedicate their whole lives to a faith or ideology. The blackpill induced nihilism made it impossible for me to have the faith and will towards something great, something that’s more than me.

Nihilism and the apathy and indifference it creates is incredibly harmful and it caused and is causing huge damage to society, to the West in particular. God is dead, but we can’t cope with this fact. It’s not a coincidence in my opinion that the rise of the ideologies of the Enlightenment (nationalism, socialism, liberalism, conservatism) came after the decline of Christianity. These ideologies served as a substitute for religion. As an individual needs purpose, a society needs a common goal, something to work towards.

This is a crisis of meaning and one of the biggest challenges of the upcoming decades will be to solve the issue of nihilism. We’ve been trying to find a solution for about 200 years now, with not much success.

We’ll probably be need a new religion of some sort, with a new, life affirming worldview and ethics. If we can even believe in anything anymore…

What do you think?

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Taking the blackpill naturally leaves you to be nihilistic. The thinking patterns that you go through after being exposed to these ideas necessarily lead you to a nihilistic view of existence, politics, society, human relationships, religion etc.



It’s not surprising: the blackpill is evolutionarily reductionist, meaning it reduces everything in human life to primal, instinctual drives. Every argument the blackpill and redpill makes points to instincts rooted in evolution. Hypergamy, women’s preference for strong jawlines, broad shoulders, as indicators of masculinity, height, status etc. The materialism of the blackpill reduces everything to these primal desires and the ultimate goal only goes for survival and the preservation of our genes.



This worldview leaves no space for “higher goals”, God or morals. Nothing. Just the atoms and molecules, the flesh and bones.



Nihilism is not new to me: I’ve been a nihilist pretty much ever since I was 15 and that was 5 years before I got blackpilled at 20. At that time, I felt like Nietzsche after he read Schopenhauer’s The world as will and representation. Depression, deep sadness and despair; is this life? Is this really it? It just cannot be! I started looking for meaning. Not in the Nietzschean way of creating my own values (I hadn’t even heard of Nietzsche at the time), but by turning to Christianity, to God. I was actually interested in Christianity and religion in general. At one point I was even considering becoming a priest or a monk to dedicate my life to serve God.

I gradually lost my faith in God and christian ethics throughout my teenage years. Part of it was personal - lack of discipline, hypocrisy (both mine and others’), and part of it came from studying history. The more I learned, the more I realized that morality isn’t objective and that religion, for the most part, has been just a tool for control over people.

Just as I lost the last remnants of my faith, I discovered the redpill, and later the blackpill - which only reinforced the nihilism I’d already been developing. The blackpill destroyed my old self and I had to reevaluate every belief I held, every ideology, idea I supported and was forced to create a new worldview.

Nihilism is a plague because it paralyzes your soul. If relationships are fake, if every ideology, religion, and political system is fake, then why bother doing anything at all?

"Well, yeah bro, it's all meaningless, if you don't believe in anything, believe in yourself at least." - most people would say.
That mindset doesn’t help much. "Believing in yourself," as I understand it, means having the confidence that you can overcome life’s challenges. It means believing that you can make it. But that’s not belief in the sense of meaning or purpose, it’s just a useful psychological trick to keep yourself afloat. The phrase “believe in yourself” is really just another way of saying, “have confidence and a positive self-image.” Sure, those are important, but they don’t solve the problem of meaninglessness. If everything is meaningless, then why should I even bother trying to build confidence? For what? If I get no reward in the end, why should I suffer for nothing?

Whenever I try to believe in something sooner or later I end up back at nihilism. I kind of envy those who can dedicate their whole lives to a faith or ideology. The blackpill induced nihilism made it impossible for me to have the faith and will towards something great, something that’s more than me.

Nihilism and the apathy and indifference it creates is incredibly harmful and it caused and is causing huge damage to society, to the West in particular. God is dead, but we can’t cope with this fact. It’s not a coincidence in my opinion that the rise of the ideologies of the Enlightenment (nationalism, socialism, liberalism, conservatism) came after the decline of Christianity. These ideologies served as a substitute for religion. As an individual needs purpose, a society needs a common goal, something to work towards.

This is a crisis of meaning and one of the biggest challenges of the upcoming decades will be to solve the issue of nihilism. We’ve been trying to find a solution for about 200 years now, with not much success.

We’ll probably be need a new religion of some sort, with a new, life affirming worldview and ethics. If we can even believe in anything anymore…

What do you think?

Thanks for the post, it was a pleasure to read your life story. Until I was 14, I was a deeply religious Orthodox Christian myself, I went to church once a month, and I always confessed my sins every six months. I read the Bible, and even participated in Christian clubs. Then I began to notice the luxury of priests, the hypocrisy of the church system, and became an atheist, which caused me to quarrel with some relatives. Then for a while I just lived, for the most part, I was a social Democrat in my own right and stopped being interested in ideologies, dreamed of becoming a military officer and going to a military college, then I became interested in the ideologies of the third way from English-speaking sources. Nihilism is neither good nor bad, it is not a disease, but it is not the norm either, it is just a reaction to society. You will not be able to deceive yourself with false ideals for a long time when everything around you says otherwise. In order not to become a nihilist and leave faith in something good, you need to escape from society, that is, go to some remote village. Dostoevsky strongly criticized nihilism in his novels and considered it a disease. But I'm neutral towards him. I escape from society with games, history books, and other ways to cope.

 

[SickWeakCoward]

Well, cosmotheism might interest you, but like every other religion, it requires subservience. Fact is, unles you're a strong, handsome and capable man blessed with a ton of good luck, nothing good is ever going to happen to you. The truth in life is primal - you either win, or you lose. Nothing else - ideology, religion, race - really matters. In the end, it's a cosmic coin toss. Win or lose, it happens without your knowledge or consent.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Taking the blackpill naturally leaves you to be nihilistic. The thinking patterns that you go through after being exposed to these ideas necessarily lead you to a nihilistic view of existence, politics, society, human relationships, religion etc.



It’s not surprising: the blackpill is evolutionarily reductionist, meaning it reduces everything in human life to primal, instinctual drives. Every argument the blackpill and redpill makes points to instincts rooted in evolution. Hypergamy, women’s preference for strong jawlines, broad shoulders, as indicators of masculinity, height, status etc. The materialism of the blackpill reduces everything to these primal desires and the ultimate goal only goes for survival and the preservation of our genes.



This worldview leaves no space for “higher goals”, God or morals. Nothing. Just the atoms and molecules, the flesh and bones.



Nihilism is not new to me: I’ve been a nihilist pretty much ever since I was 15 and that was 5 years before I got blackpilled at 20. At that time, I felt like Nietzsche after he read Schopenhauer’s The world as will and representation. Depression, deep sadness and despair; is this life? Is this really it? It just cannot be! I started looking for meaning. Not in the Nietzschean way of creating my own values (I hadn’t even heard of Nietzsche at the time), but by turning to Christianity, to God. I was actually interested in Christianity and religion in general. At one point I was even considering becoming a priest or a monk to dedicate my life to serve God.

I gradually lost my faith in God and christian ethics throughout my teenage years. Part of it was personal - lack of discipline, hypocrisy (both mine and others’), and part of it came from studying history. The more I learned, the more I realized that morality isn’t objective and that religion, for the most part, has been just a tool for control over people.

Just as I lost the last remnants of my faith, I discovered the redpill, and later the blackpill - which only reinforced the nihilism I’d already been developing. The blackpill destroyed my old self and I had to reevaluate every belief I held, every ideology, idea I supported and was forced to create a new worldview.

Nihilism is a plague because it paralyzes your soul. If relationships are fake, if every ideology, religion, and political system is fake, then why bother doing anything at all?

"Well, yeah bro, it's all meaningless, if you don't believe in anything, believe in yourself at least." - most people would say.
That mindset doesn’t help much. "Believing in yourself," as I understand it, means having the confidence that you can overcome life’s challenges. It means believing that you can make it. But that’s not belief in the sense of meaning or purpose, it’s just a useful psychological trick to keep yourself afloat. The phrase “believe in yourself” is really just another way of saying, “have confidence and a positive self-image.” Sure, those are important, but they don’t solve the problem of meaninglessness. If everything is meaningless, then why should I even bother trying to build confidence? For what? If I get no reward in the end, why should I suffer for nothing?

Whenever I try to believe in something sooner or later I end up back at nihilism. I kind of envy those who can dedicate their whole lives to a faith or ideology. The blackpill induced nihilism made it impossible for me to have the faith and will towards something great, something that’s more than me.

Nihilism and the apathy and indifference it creates is incredibly harmful and it caused and is causing huge damage to society, to the West in particular. God is dead, but we can’t cope with this fact. It’s not a coincidence in my opinion that the rise of the ideologies of the Enlightenment (nationalism, socialism, liberalism, conservatism) came after the decline of Christianity. These ideologies served as a substitute for religion. As an individual needs purpose, a society needs a common goal, something to work towards.

This is a crisis of meaning and one of the biggest challenges of the upcoming decades will be to solve the issue of nihilism. We’ve been trying to find a solution for about 200 years now, with not much success.

We’ll probably be need a new religion of some sort, with a new, life affirming worldview and ethics. If we can even believe in anything anymore…

What do you think?

Can fake virtue, trend-chasing, and the desire to make money be considered a "substitute" for religion?

 

[SickWeakCoward]

Can fake virtue, trend-chasing, and the desire to make money be considered a "substitute" for religion?

Only if your soul has been thoroughly jewified. As you can see, normies are pretty religious about their conformity and peer acceptance.

 

[intothewild]

This is a crisis of meaning and one of the biggest challenges of the upcoming decades will be to solve the issue of nihilism. We’ve been trying to find a solution for about 200 years now, with not much success.

We’ll probably be need a new religion of some sort, with a new, life affirming worldview and ethics. If we can even believe in anything anymore…

What do you think?

We live in unusual times. Our ancestors did not have to deal with this sense of meaninglessness, even during the worst tragedies such as the black death they still had the church, their community, their clans, guilds, king and/or family. We have none of these. We really need to just hold tight and endure it as this plays out. We're living an ersatz life so all we can really do is not be so harsh on ourselves when we inevitably mismanage and fall apart. Don't feel bad or crazy if you're failing to cope or falling behind, it's not your fault, it's this weird system's fault. We're meant to fall behind. As our environment disintegrates we naturally disintegrate with it.

 

[TheHungariancel]

Thanks for the post, it was a pleasure to read your life story. Until I was 14, I was a deeply religious Orthodox Christian myself, I went to church once a month, and I always confessed my sins every six months. I read the Bible, and even participated in Christian clubs. Then I began to notice the luxury of priests, the hypocrisy of the church system, and became an atheist, which caused me to quarrel with some relatives.

Regarding family quarrels, for me it was the opposite: I come from a non-religious family and my parents were pretty surprised when I talked to them about my views, my mother specifically asked me to not talk about religious stuff because she finds them bullshit and tiring.

Were you originally raised as a christian?

Then for a while I just lived, for the most part, I was a social Democrat in my own right and stopped being interested in ideologies, dreamed of becoming a military officer and going to a military college, then I became interested in the ideologies of the third way from English-speaking sources.

Social democracy is nice, one of the few ideas I can support and would be willing to participate in political activism to advance it. Democracy is flawed and it’s dysfunctional in almost every country (I’m talking about elections and universal suffrage here) but currently it’s the best system that we have (the least shit system to be precise).

Nihilism is neither good nor bad, it is not a disease, but it is not the norm either, it is just a reaction to society. You will not be able to deceive yourself with false ideals for a long time when everything around you says otherwise.

It has to potential to be a disease if the person can’t cope with his own pain and meaninglessness. Even though I’ve been blackpilled for a few years now, I still struggle to accept that if you believe in something you just practically deceive yourself. It is what it is I guess, I’ll just accept it eventually.

In order not to become a nihilist and leave faith in something good, you need to escape from society, that is, go to some remote village.

Now that I think about it, my misery amplifies when I’m around people, but when you’re alone life seems simpler and more peaceful. @Chingaquedito made an interesting observation about a contradiction I used to experience and still do. I’m a left leaning person (moderate left or center-left) but I just can’t stand most people. Despite this, I still kind of lean towards social democracy, as I think if most people’s quality of life is good or at least decent they would be less miserable and insufferable, which is good for everyone.

Dostoevsky strongly criticized nihilism in his novels and considered it a disease. But I'm neutral towards him. I escape from society with games, history books, and other ways to cope.

He was a christian, he obviously hated the nihilists of his time. He’s an incredible writer though, along with the other russian realists like Tolstoy, Chekhov etc. The Notes from the Underground is a blackpill-incel classic.

You’re from Russia, right? Must be a really good experience to read their works in original.

Well, cosmotheism might interest you, but like every other religion, it requires subservience. Fact is, unles you're a strong, handsome and capable man blessed with a ton of good luck, nothing good is ever going to happen to you. The truth in life is primal - you either win, or you lose. Nothing else - ideology, religion, race - really matters. In the end, it's a cosmic coin toss. Win or lose, it happens without your knowledge or consent.

Looked up the term because I haven’t heard of it, seems interesting.

I agree with you. The only thing that gives me a sort of “meaning” (it’s rather a cope) is knowledge and wisdom, I get more wiser and knowledgeable every year (and miserable at the same time).

We live in unusual times. Our ancestors did not have to deal with this sense of meaninglessness, even during the worst tragedies such as the black death they still had the church, their community, their clans, guilds, king and/or family. We have none of these.

Facts.

We really need to just hold tight and endure it as this plays out. We're living an ersatz life so all we can really do is not be so harsh on ourselves when we inevitably mismanage and fall apart. Don't feel bad or crazy if you're failing to cope or falling behind, it's not your fault, it's this weird system's fault. We're meant to fall behind. As our environment disintegrates we naturally disintegrate with it.

Really good points, agreed. Ersatz life is a fitting term for our situation, brutal.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Regarding family quarrels, for me it was the opposite: I come from a non-religious family and my parents were pretty surprised when I talked to them about my views, my mother specifically asked me to not talk about religious stuff because she finds them bullshit and tiring.

Were you originally raised as a christian?

Yes, I was baptized in the Orthodox Church when I was a child. My parents were relatively religious, but my grandmother, with whom I spent a lot of time as a child, was an extremely religious person, she always took me to all religious services in churches.

Social democracy is nice, one of the few ideas I can support and would be willing to participate in political activism to advance it. Democracy is flawed and it’s dysfunctional in almost every country (I’m talking about elections and universal suffrage here) but currently it’s the best system that we have (the least shit system to be precise).

I thought so too, but then I realized that the Social Democrats are just a controlled opposition, like all modern leftists and modern rights, they have different slogans, different party emblems, but when they come to power they act the same way. If the elites want to force you to eat Bugs, then both political flanks will find reasons to justify it.

It has to potential to be a disease if the person can’t cope with his own pain and meaninglessness. Even though I’ve been blackpilled for a few years now, I still struggle to accept that if you believe in something you just practically deceive yourself. It is what it is I guess, I’ll just accept it eventually.

I use video games, books, movies, and TV series to fight depression, and sometimes I just run because it helps me cope with my life.

Now that I think about it, my misery amplifies when I’m around people, but when you’re alone life seems simpler and more peaceful. @Chingaquedito made an interesting observation about a contradiction I used to experience and still do. I’m a left leaning person (moderate left or center-left) but I just can’t stand most people. Despite this, I still kind of lean towards social democracy, as I think if most people’s quality of life is good or at least decent they would be less miserable and insufferable, which is good for everyone.


He was a christian, he obviously hated the nihilists of his time. He’s an incredible writer though, along with the other russian realists like Tolstoy, Chekhov etc. The Notes from the Underground is a blackpill-incel classic.

You’re from Russia, right? Must be a really good experience to read their works in original.

Yes, I'm from Russia. Yes, Russian is incredibly difficult.

Looked up the term because I haven’t heard of it, seems interesting.

I agree with you. The only thing that gives me a sort of “meaning” (it’s rather a cope) is knowledge and wisdom, I get more wiser and knowledgeable every year (and miserable at the same time).



Facts.


Really good points, agreed. Ersatz life is a fitting term for our situation, brutal.

 

[Manlet_cel]

Thanks for the post, it was a pleasure to read your life story. Until I was 14, I was a deeply religious Orthodox Christian myself, I went to church once a month, and I always confessed my sins every six months. I read the Bible, and even participated in Christian clubs. Then I began to notice the luxury of priests, the hypocrisy of the church system, and became an atheist, which caused me to quarrel with some relatives. Then for a while I just lived, for the most part, I was a social Democrat in my own right and stopped being interested in ideologies, dreamed of becoming a military officer and going to a military college, then I became interested in the ideologies of the third way from English-speaking sources. Nihilism is neither good nor bad, it is not a disease, but it is not the norm either, it is just a reaction to society. You will not be able to deceive yourself with false ideals for a long time when everything around you says otherwise. In order not to become a nihilist and leave faith in something good, you need to escape from society, that is, go to some remote village. Dostoevsky strongly criticized nihilism in his novels and considered it a disease. But I'm neutral towards him. I escape from society with games, history books, and other ways to cope.

Why see it as a plague or a disease , it can be classified as one but I think it is natural we humans deluded ourself with religion and god for a long time but now we can't anymore

 

[Manlet_cel]

Taking the blackpill naturally leaves you to be nihilistic. The thinking patterns that you go through after being exposed to these ideas necessarily lead you to a nihilistic view of existence, politics, society, human relationships, religion etc.



It’s not surprising: the blackpill is evolutionarily reductionist, meaning it reduces everything in human life to primal, instinctual drives. Every argument the blackpill and redpill makes points to instincts rooted in evolution. Hypergamy, women’s preference for strong jawlines, broad shoulders, as indicators of masculinity, height, status etc. The materialism of the blackpill reduces everything to these primal desires and the ultimate goal only goes for survival and the preservation of our genes.



This worldview leaves no space for “higher goals”, God or morals. Nothing. Just the atoms and molecules, the flesh and bones.



Nihilism is not new to me: I’ve been a nihilist pretty much ever since I was 15 and that was 5 years before I got blackpilled at 20. At that time, I felt like Nietzsche after he read Schopenhauer’s The world as will and representation. Depression, deep sadness and despair; is this life? Is this really it? It just cannot be! I started looking for meaning. Not in the Nietzschean way of creating my own values (I hadn’t even heard of Nietzsche at the time), but by turning to Christianity, to God. I was actually interested in Christianity and religion in general. At one point I was even considering becoming a priest or a monk to dedicate my life to serve God.

I gradually lost my faith in God and christian ethics throughout my teenage years. Part of it was personal - lack of discipline, hypocrisy (both mine and others’), and part of it came from studying history. The more I learned, the more I realized that morality isn’t objective and that religion, for the most part, has been just a tool for control over people.

Just as I lost the last remnants of my faith, I discovered the redpill, and later the blackpill - which only reinforced the nihilism I’d already been developing. The blackpill destroyed my old self and I had to reevaluate every belief I held, every ideology, idea I supported and was forced to create a new worldview.

Nihilism is a plague because it paralyzes your soul. If relationships are fake, if every ideology, religion, and political system is fake, then why bother doing anything at all?

"Well, yeah bro, it's all meaningless, if you don't believe in anything, believe in yourself at least." - most people would say.
That mindset doesn’t help much. "Believing in yourself," as I understand it, means having the confidence that you can overcome life’s challenges. It means believing that you can make it. But that’s not belief in the sense of meaning or purpose, it’s just a useful psychological trick to keep yourself afloat. The phrase “believe in yourself” is really just another way of saying, “have confidence and a positive self-image.” Sure, those are important, but they don’t solve the problem of meaninglessness. If everything is meaningless, then why should I even bother trying to build confidence? For what? If I get no reward in the end, why should I suffer for nothing?

Whenever I try to believe in something sooner or later I end up back at nihilism. I kind of envy those who can dedicate their whole lives to a faith or ideology. The blackpill induced nihilism made it impossible for me to have the faith and will towards something great, something that’s more than me.

Nihilism and the apathy and indifference it creates is incredibly harmful and it caused and is causing huge damage to society, to the West in particular. God is dead, but we can’t cope with this fact. It’s not a coincidence in my opinion that the rise of the ideologies of the Enlightenment (nationalism, socialism, liberalism, conservatism) came after the decline of Christianity. These ideologies served as a substitute for religion. As an individual needs purpose, a society needs a common goal, something to work towards.

This is a crisis of meaning and one of the biggest challenges of the upcoming decades will be to solve the issue of nihilism. We’ve been trying to find a solution for about 200 years now, with not much success.

We’ll probably be need a new religion of some sort, with a new, life affirming worldview and ethics. If we can even believe in anything anymore…

What do you think?

High iq + been through same nihilism literally destroyed religious faith within a yr or two + bp was final nail in the cofin .
I think u should try to change your perception towards nihilism like optimisc nihilism or look into existential philosophers

 

[Manlet_cel]

Can fake virtue, trend-chasing, and the desire to make money be considered a "substitute" for religion?

I don't think so consumerism looks like a substitute but it depletes human soul every quickly these things can never be replaced with higher purposes + can u really delved into consumerism lifestyle can u generate that much money can u have that much pussy?

 

[D. B. Gooner]

I had also abandoned every single value I had when I got blackpilled (nationalism, religion, most opinions, my need to find a hobby even though none of them fulfilled me). For me, the best way to combat the feeling of meaninglessness, has been to live in the present. You respond to what's in front of you, you think about what's in front of you. Living in the past caused me depression, living in the future caused me anxiety.

I still strugle with this, as I very often daydream, can't help myself, it is very addicting. I would listen to music all day and imagine myself as the artist making the song or something similar. No matter how many hobbies I drop, I can't escape escapism.

But, from time to time, I do manage to force myself not to abuse my dopamine receptors. I go to a nice park by the river, turn off my phone and sit in the sun. For a brief moment I am able to enter this state of presence. I get a glimpse of what it's like to have peace of mind and it feels euphoric. Unfortunately I can't perserve this feeling for a very long time, but it gives me hope that I can eventually train myself to prolong it, maybe even make it the standard. This doesn't give my life meaning at all of course, rather I don't think about such things, the meaning of life is too grand for me to think about in that state of presence. In fact, I don't think about much of anything in those moments. I don't need to attach any attributes to myself to feel as if I live a life worth living. I have no nationality, no religion, no interests, I am contemp with what I am. Instead of trying to project an idea of what I am, I simply am. Maybe that's what the biblical father's name is meant to represent, who knows.

 

[TheHungariancel]

I had also abandoned every single value I had when I got blackpilled (nationalism, religion, most opinions, my need to find a hobby even though none of them fulfilled me). For me, the best way to combat the feeling of meaninglessness, has been to live in the present. You respond to what's in front of you, you think about what's in front of you. Living in the past caused me depression, living in the future caused me anxiety.

I still strugle with this, as I very often daydream, can't help myself, it is very addicting. I would listen to music all day and imagine myself as the artist making the song or something similar. No matter how many hobbies I drop, I can't escape escapism.

But, from time to time, I do manage to force myself not to abuse my dopamine receptors. I go to a nice park by the river, turn off my phone and sit in the sun. For a brief moment I am able to enter this state of presence. I get a glimpse of what it's like to have peace of mind and it feels euphoric. Unfortunately I can't perserve this feeling for a very long time, but it gives me hope that I can eventually train myself to prolong it, maybe even make it the standard. This doesn't give my life meaning at all of course, rather I don't think about such things, the meaning of life is too grand for me to think about in that state of presence. In fact, I don't think about much of anything in those moments. I don't need to attach any attributes to myself to feel as if I live a life worth living. I have no nationality, no religion, no interests, I am contemp with what I am. Instead of trying to project an idea of what I am, I simply am. Maybe that's what the biblical father's name is meant to represent, who knows.

I like your mindset, good post. What you talked about going to a park and sitting un the sun is practically meditation. I understand it could be good and maybe I just lack the discipline and too brainrotted for it, but I tried it a few times and it didn't do much.

I guess this is something I (and many others here) need to overcome, to actually get out of the house and "experience nature" and detach ourselves from technology, becuase otherwise I find rotting at home more enjoyable.

Why see it as a plague or a disease , it can be classified as one but I think it is natural we humans deluded ourself with religion and god for a long time but now we can't anymore

We can't go back to believe in God again, at least not in the Christian God, but nihilism is harmful on a societal level because it creates apathy, which makes people complacent, opens doors to addictons, lowers trust between people, all which contributes to a slow societal decay.

High iq + been through same nihilism literally destroyed religious faith within a yr or two + bp was final nail in the cofin .
I think u should try to change your perception towards nihilism like optimisc nihilism or look into existential philosophers

Thanks.

 

[Manlet_cel]

We can't go back to believe in God again, at least not in the Christian God, but nihilism is harmful on a societal level because it creates apathy, which makes people complacent, opens doors to addictons, lowers trust between people, all which contributes to a slow societal decay.

Thanks.

yes + it's not about just one religion all others are also similar once u reduce and see reality everything seems to look like one jfl and that's how world is , it's not a big place but rather small
Nihilism is natural reaction to life that's why we created society and culture and gathered people around and built religion and god (there were other factors too) but it can be classified as plague that depletes soul

 

[Emba]

Well, cosmotheism might interest you, but like every other religion, it requires subservience. Fact is, unles you're a strong, handsome and capable man blessed with a ton of good luck, nothing good is ever going to happen to you. The truth in life is primal - you either win, or you lose. Nothing else - ideology, religion, race - really matters. In the end, it's a cosmic coin toss. Win or lose, it happens without your knowledge or consent.

I used to like Cosmotheism... It's a nice white cope

 

[VλREN]

Living in the past caused me depression, living in the future caused me anxiety.

 

[VλREN]

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It’s a shame

You simply don’t

 

[DNRcel]

Taking the blackpill naturally leaves you to be nihilistic. The thinking patterns that you go through after being exposed to these ideas necessarily lead you to a nihilistic view of existence, politics, society, human relationships, religion etc.



It’s not surprising: the blackpill is evolutionarily reductionist, meaning it reduces everything in human life to primal, instinctual drives. Every argument the blackpill and redpill makes points to instincts rooted in evolution. Hypergamy, women’s preference for strong jawlines, broad shoulders, as indicators of masculinity, height, status etc. The materialism of the blackpill reduces everything to these primal desires and the ultimate goal only goes for survival and the preservation of our genes.



This worldview leaves no space for “higher goals”, God or morals. Nothing. Just the atoms and molecules, the flesh and bones.



Nihilism is not new to me: I’ve been a nihilist pretty much ever since I was 15 and that was 5 years before I got blackpilled at 20. At that time, I felt like Nietzsche after he read Schopenhauer’s The world as will and representation. Depression, deep sadness and despair; is this life? Is this really it? It just cannot be! I started looking for meaning. Not in the Nietzschean way of creating my own values (I hadn’t even heard of Nietzsche at the time), but by turning to Christianity, to God. I was actually interested in Christianity and religion in general. At one point I was even considering becoming a priest or a monk to dedicate my life to serve God.

I gradually lost my faith in God and christian ethics throughout my teenage years. Part of it was personal - lack of discipline, hypocrisy (both mine and others’), and part of it came from studying history. The more I learned, the more I realized that morality isn’t objective and that religion, for the most part, has been just a tool for control over people.

Just as I lost the last remnants of my faith, I discovered the redpill, and later the blackpill - which only reinforced the nihilism I’d already been developing. The blackpill destroyed my old self and I had to reevaluate every belief I held, every ideology, idea I supported and was forced to create a new worldview.

Nihilism is a plague because it paralyzes your soul. If relationships are fake, if every ideology, religion, and political system is fake, then why bother doing anything at all?

"Well, yeah bro, it's all meaningless, if you don't believe in anything, believe in yourself at least." - most people would say.
That mindset doesn’t help much. "Believing in yourself," as I understand it, means having the confidence that you can overcome life’s challenges. It means believing that you can make it. But that’s not belief in the sense of meaning or purpose, it’s just a useful psychological trick to keep yourself afloat. The phrase “believe in yourself” is really just another way of saying, “have confidence and a positive self-image.” Sure, those are important, but they don’t solve the problem of meaninglessness. If everything is meaningless, then why should I even bother trying to build confidence? For what? If I get no reward in the end, why should I suffer for nothing?

Whenever I try to believe in something sooner or later I end up back at nihilism. I kind of envy those who can dedicate their whole lives to a faith or ideology. The blackpill induced nihilism made it impossible for me to have the faith and will towards something great, something that’s more than me.

Nihilism and the apathy and indifference it creates is incredibly harmful and it caused and is causing huge damage to society, to the West in particular. God is dead, but we can’t cope with this fact. It’s not a coincidence in my opinion that the rise of the ideologies of the Enlightenment (nationalism, socialism, liberalism, conservatism) came after the decline of Christianity. These ideologies served as a substitute for religion. As an individual needs purpose, a society needs a common goal, something to work towards.

This is a crisis of meaning and one of the biggest challenges of the upcoming decades will be to solve the issue of nihilism. We’ve been trying to find a solution for about 200 years now, with not much success.

We’ll probably be need a new religion of some sort, with a new, life affirming worldview and ethics. If we can even believe in anything anymore…

What do you think?

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