It's Over The cognitive gap between 170 and 150 IQ is MASSIVE

[Horatio Alger]

Some background on my father:

He is a former math prodigy who dreamed of competing in the Math Olympiad. He would study textbooks on advanced mathematics beforehand. This was entirely of his own volition, as his parents were preoccupied by his older siblings and couldn't spare any time for him. However, due to personal circumstances, he never did get the opportunity to compete in one

However, he did take the Korean College Entrance Strength Test (now known as the CSAT) in the senior year of his high school (passing the test is pretty much the only way to get into a University, which meant most high school seniors in the country took it), and ranked very high in the country on the Mathematics Section of the Exam, which equates to a Math IQ of around 175 (approx. 1 in 3.5 million) accounting for his entire age cohort and adjusting for the exceptionally high math IQs of Northeast Asians

This is even more impressive if you account for my father's extreme laziness (not as lazy as I am though), since he never attended private cram schools like his peers did and only occasionally studied mathematics in his spare time

Now on to me:

I scored 150+ on a nonverbal IQ test around the age of 10, and the composite of my math subtest scores on the ASVAB equated to an IQ of 156 adjusting for sleep deprivation. I never had any passion for mathematics like my father.

Several years back, my father had us take a practice Math Olympiad Exam as a father-son bonding opportunity. While I was at an impasse on several of the questions and half my brain melted, my father was able to breeze through most of the questions (except for one particular problem, which he figured out the answer to after a quick smoking break) like a lightsaber through butter despite the fact that HE HADN'T TOUCHED UP ON MATH SINCE HIS UNIVERSITY DAYS.

Later, unbeknownst to me, he told my mother (who told me) that I had no talent for Mathematics, despite the fact that I had a math IQ around 150-160. His 175 IQ brain was simply wired differently from mine: much better equipped at processing highly abstract problems that would show up on tests with extremely high ceilings, such as Hoeflin's MEGA IQ test or the annual Math Olympiad

This is quite similar to 145 IQ midwit Jeff Bezos' experience with that Sri Lankan guy who was able to effortlessly solve a complex math problem that Jeff Bezos struggled for 3 hours on with his roommate merely from a glance

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[Skelly]

isnt 150IQ already giga Einstein tier?

 

[Horatio Alger]

isnt 150IQ already giga Einstein tier?

Barely 1 in 2000

My father is 1 in 3.5 million

 

[Lazyandtalentless]

No iq for ur face

 

[Horatio Alger]

No iq for ur face

My father had both

 

[Lazyandtalentless]

My father had both

Mogger

 

[Horatio Alger]

isnt 150IQ already giga Einstein tier?

The difference between 170 IQ and 150 IQ is more than one standard deviation

A 150 IQ (approx. 1 in 2000) midwit might spent hours on a complex problem while a 170 IQ (approx. 1 in 3.5 million) supermutant solves it near instantaneously

Like Jeff Bezos (midwit 145 IQ) can't solve a complex math problem he spent three hours on along with a roommate, while some Sri Lankan (math IQ 161+???) he went to solved it immediately

 

[Skelly]

The difference between 170 IQ and 150 IQ is more than one standard deviation

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A 150 IQ (approx. 1 in 2000) midwit might spent hours on a complex problem while a 170 IQ (approx. 1 in 3.5 million) supermutant solves it near instantaneously

Like Jeff Bezos (midwit 145 IQ) can't solve a complex math problem he spent three hours on along with a roommate, while some Sri Lankan (math IQ 161+???) he went to solved it immediately

isnt the average IQ like 110?

 

[Horatio Alger]

isnt the average IQ like 110?

Actually, it's 100. Extremely low

 

[Paperman]

Differences in ability are exponential, that is what normies don't understand; they think being average counts for more than it does.

 

[glutty]

iq mogs

 

[Horatio Alger]

Differences in ability are exponential, that is what normies don't understand; they think being average counts for more than it does.

Exactly. Processing speed increases exponentially even if it might not seem so on a bell curve

 

[starcrapoo]

i will take the binet test tomorrow

i've gotten dumber through the years as I'm too depressed to read and study. plus i'm alcoholic and forget shit constantly

one second I'm thinking about what I'm gonna do and the next second I totally forget

 

[Brainy]

No iq for ur face

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

Some background on my father:

He is a former math prodigy who dreamed of competing in the Math Olympiad. He would study textbooks on advanced mathematics beforehand. This was entirely of his own volition, as his parents were preoccupied by his older siblings and couldn't spare any time for him. However, due to personal circumstances, he never did get the opportunity to compete in one

However, he did take the Korean College Entrance Strength Test (now known as the CSAT) in the senior year of his high school (passing the test is pretty much the only way to get into a University, which meant most high school seniors in the country took it), and ranked very high in the country on the Mathematics Section of the Exam, which equates to a Math IQ of around 175 (approx. 1 in 3.5 million) accounting for his entire age cohort and adjusting for the exceptionally high math IQs of Northeast Asians

This is even more impressive if you account for my father's extreme laziness (not as lazy as I am though), since he never attended private cram schools like his peers did and only occasionally studied mathematics in his spare time

Now on to me:

I scored 150+ on a nonverbal IQ test around the age of 10, and the composite of my math subtest scores on the ASVAB equated to an IQ of 156 adjusting for sleep deprivation. I never had any passion for mathematics like my father.

Several years back, my father had us take a practice Math Olympiad Exam as a father-son bonding opportunity. While I was at an impasse on several of the questions and half my brain melted, my father was able to breeze through most of the questions (except for one particular problem, which he figured out the answer to after a quick smoking break) like a lightsaber through butter despite the fact that HE HADN'T TOUCHED UP ON MATH SINCE HIS UNIVERSITY DAYS.

Later, unbeknownst to me, he told my mother (who told me) that I had no talent for Mathematics, despite the fact that I had a math IQ around 150-160. His 175 IQ brain was simply wired differently from mine: much better equipped at processing highly abstract problems that would show up on tests with extremely high ceilings, such as Hoeflin's MEGA IQ test or the annual Math Olympiad

This is quite similar to 145 IQ midwit Jeff Bezos' experience with that Sri Lankan guy who was able to effortlessly solve a complex math problem that Jeff Bezos struggled for 3 hours on with his roommate merely from a glance

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Watch Jeff Bezos tell the funny story about the moment in college he realized he 'was never going to be a great theoretical physicist'

During an interview at The Economic Club of Washington, Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos discussed the time a friend helped him with a difficult math problem in college, and what it made him realize.

www.businessinsider.com

Well yeah, IQ is made of different stuff, math, verbal, spatial, logical and 1-3 other things depending on particular test.

People good in math are at times useless at spatial, ones good at spatial are often useless at verbal etc etc.


What counts is the G factor.

But yeah if good at spatial its better to study engineering, if good at math then study stastictics , if good at logic become an army general or detective etc etc etc . Do you understand now ?

 

[Horatio Alger]

Well yeah, IQ is made of different stuff, math, verbal, spatial, logical and 1-3 other things depending on particular test.

People good in math are at times useless at spatial, ones good at spatial are often useless at verbal etc etc.


What counts is the G factor.

But yeah if good at spatial its better to study engineering, if good at math then study stastictics , if good at logic become an army general or detective etc etc etc . Do you understand now ?

My father's spatial IQ is probably almost as high as his Math IQ

 

[Sonicfancel]

Fakecel IQ bragging.

 

[guessthatsit]

Fakecel IQ bragging.

 

[Maikowski]

There's 0 difference between 150 and 170 IQ. Anything above 140 is meaningless

 

[Horatio Alger]

There's 0 difference between 150 and 170 IQ. Anything above 140 is meaningless

There is when it comes to processing abstract concepts, problem solving speed, and predicting median income for an IQ cohort

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The relationship between IQ and median income is almost perfectly linear even up to the 150s

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Cognitive Z score is correlated to economic Z score (Median wealth and median IQ of each socioeconomic class correlate)

The median centibillionaire (151 IQ) is smarter than the median multi-billionaire (131 IQ) et cetera

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170 IQ Bill Gates had a higher wealth z-score at the height of the Dot-Com Bubble in the late 1990s than 140 IQ midwit Elon Musk in the 2020s

 

[Horatio Alger]

Fakecel IQ bragging.

Nothing wrong with having pride in the enormous genetic potential of your exalted relatives and/or personal idols

My relatively decent IQ (150 IQ) is a testament to my father's overwhelming genetic potential, as expected statistical regression to the mean for most children of supermutant geniuses is much more pronounced (Parent child IQ correlation is a mere 0.45, which means I beat the odds)

I have nothing but complete admiration of 170 IQ supermutant geniuses such as my father, Mearsheimer, and Bill Gates

 

[Doesitmatter?]

Low iq bragger

 

[Doesitmatter?]

You will never be the high iq person that you think yourself as, Coping to the moon

 

[Doesitmatter?]

I would argue you are even lower than average

 

[Horatio Alger]

You will never be the high iq person that you think yourself as, Coping to the moon

I worship my father, I only mention my own IQ since statistically speaking, IQ regression to the mean is much more precipitous for children of supermutant geniuses, which means my father might be GENETICALLY SUPERIOR to even other 170 IQ supergeniuses

 

[Doesitmatter?]

I worship my father, I only mention my own IQ since statistically speaking, IQ regression to the mean is much more precipitous for children of supermutant geniuses, which means my father might be GENETICALLY SUPERIOR to even other 170 IQ supergeniuses

Classic coping mechanism of thinking of ourselves as supirior to others to feel good. Your dad was a low iq nigger so are you. Muh "high iq"

 

[Horatio Alger]

I would argue you are even lower than average

That would be extremely unlikely, since that would imply EXTREME over performance on several cognitive tests and the parent-child IQ correlation

 

[femcelbreedingnig]

This is quite similar to 145 IQ midwit Jeff Bezos' experience with that Sri Lankan guy who was able to effortlessly solve a complex math problem that Jeff Bezos struggled for 3 hours on with his roommate merely from a glance

Lol I remember hearing him talk about this in a speech. He basically said he was applying the wrong concept.
But then he went on to talk about how he quit that field of study because it required too much time and IQ for not that much fruit he was looking for

 

[Horatio Alger]

Classic coping mechanism of thinking of ourselves as supirior to others to feel good. Your dad was a low iq nigger so are you. Muh "high iq"

I know you're being sarcastic calling my father a nigger, but my father has a higher math IQ than what is statistically expected for the world's smartest black person

 

[3000showers]

Did he get a 170iq job? Doesnt it lead to overthinking and a sort of autistic isolation?

 

[Doesitmatter?]

That would be extremely unlikely, since that would imply EXTREME over performance on several cognitive tests and the parent-child IQ correlation

Iq coping is classic coping machanism among the incels to think supirior of themselves, the reality is you were never supirior not with attractiveness nor with the brain.

 

[Horatio Alger]

Lol I remember hearing him talk about this in a speech. He basically said he was applying the wrong concept.
But then he went on to talk about how he quit that field of study because it required too much time and IQ for not that much fruit he was looking for

Precisely

One probably needs an IQ in the 160-170s to be the very best in the hard sciences

 

[Doesitmatter?]

I know you're being sarcastic calling my father a nigger, but my father has a higher math IQ than what is statistically expected for the world's smartest black person

Oh and what scale did you use to measure his iq?

 

[Horatio Alger]

Iq coping is classic coping machanism among the incels to think supirior of themselves, the reality is you were never supirior not with attractiveness nor with the brain.

Tryhard normies study 18 hours every weekend and are razor focused on the teacher in the class, whereas I played video games at the very back of the class and crammed studying in less than an hour

They get the same grade as me on the test even though I guess on most multiple choice questions based solely on intuition

 

[Zetta]

OP with his dad

 

[Horatio Alger]

Did he get a 170iq job? Doesnt it lead to overthinking and a sort of autistic isolation?

He did

Unfortunately, he quit so he could spend more time with his family

 

[Horatio Alger]

Oh and what scale did you use to measure his iq?

His national ranking on the Korean CSAT

 

[Doesitmatter?]

Tryhard normies study 18 hours every weekend and are razor focused on the teacher in the class, whereas I played video games at the very back of the class and crammed studying in less than an hour

They get the same grade as me on the test even though I guess on most multiple choice questions based solely on intuition

So? You think that makes you special and "150 iq". Some posts on this site remind me the coping has no end

 

[Oogger]

Very interesting how for everything.
Leg bone to iq.
Even face structure.
Just small changes can make a huge difference.

 

[Horatio Alger]

So? You think that makes you special and "150 iq". Some posts on this site remind me the coping has no end

Well, it is objectively a good trait to have since you don't need to waste time studying

More time to enjoy your copes during the weekends and goof off in class

 

[Doesitmatter?]

Well, it is objectively a good trait to have since you don't need to waste time studying

More time to enjoy your copes during the weekends and goof off in class

Iq has nothing to do with that, there's no such thing as iq, only practice. When you spend time on something, you get better at it, if an average uneducated person spends his whole life doing iq test questions, he would score the highest. Human intelligence can't be measured numerically

 

[Horatio Alger]

Iq has nothing to do with that, there's no such thing as iq, only practice. When you spend time on something, you get better at it, if an average uneducated person spends his whole life doing iq test questions, he would score the highest. Human intelligence can't be measured numerically

I never studied for anything more than the bare minimum. I also barely payed attention in school

My father studied advanced math textbooks, but he didn't attend any private cram schools like most ricecels and spent much of his free time playing sports and arcade games JFL

 

[Doesitmatter?]

I never studied for anything more than the bare minimum

My father studied advanced math textbooks, but he didn't attend any private cram schools like most ricecels and spent much of his free time playing sports and arcade games JFL

So ? What's so special about that?

 

[Doesitmatter?]

I never studied for anything more than the bare minimum. I also barely payed attention in school

My father studied advanced math textbooks, but he didn't attend any private cram schools like most ricecels and spent much of his free time playing sports and arcade games JFL

So You think you're a genius as you can pass some oofy doofy courses with minimal studying? JFL

 

[Zetta]

the fact that you not only think Jeff Bezos has an IQ of 145, but also simultaneously believe that Bill Gates has an IQ of 170, and even more ludicrously extend this malpractice by thinking that Elon Musk has an IQ of 140, tells me all I need to know. you're either 5 years old with an iq of 150 or a larping shitskin in his trash hut in hyderabad get a fucking grip dude

 

[Horatio Alger]

So ? What's so special about that?

It means human intelligence is largely innate, and those born with it already enjoy a near insurmountable advantage barring exceptional Academic TIE or grit

 

[Horatio Alger]

the fact that you not only think Jeff Bezos has an IQ of 145, but also simultaneously believe that Bill Gates has an IQ of 170, and even more ludicrously extend this malpractice by thinking that Elon Musk has an IQ of 140, tells me all I need to know. you're either 5 years old with an iq of 150 or a larping shitskin in his trash hut in hyderabad

Pre recentered SAT scores for Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are converted to z scores that equate to IQs of 147 and 142 respectively

Bill Gates scored a 1590 back when the number of people getting perfect SAT scores numbered less than a handful per year

Also, I'm Korean

 

[Horatio Alger]

So You think you're a genius as you can pass some oofy doofy courses with minimal studying? JFL

Genius IQ is 170 and above

Like Mearsheimer, my father, and Bill Gates

I'm merely smart

 

[Emba]

Shut up and finish shoveling out the sewage boy

 

[Zetta]

Pre recentered SAT scores for Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are converted to z scores that equate to IQs of 147 and 142 respectively

Bill Gates scored a 1590 back when the number of people getting perfect SAT scores numbered less than a handful per year

>just believe claims bro (I know that's what you want, OP)
Are these self reported scores, have these been verified? And, of course, here's an obligatory reminder that SAT scores ≠ IQ tests. They test for different things and extrapolating one from the other is dubious at best. If this was the case, then there wouldn't be a need for IQ tests.

The fact that a person with an IQ of 150 cannot see through the obviously manufactured marketing and branding by these 'high-IQ' billionaires would be concerning. But thankfully, this isn't the case.

Also, I'm Korean

The fact that you even bothered to clarify when it's already in your main post, JFL. Shouldn't people with 150 IQs understand the hyperbolic sarcasm and jokes that even people with middling iqs would comprehend?