Blackpill The Cliche Normie Phrase "Its Just A Fantasy" [Often Used With Respect To Fetishes] Makes No Logical Sense (The Term "Fantasy" Is Being Misused)

[BlkPillPres]

The statement that "its just a fantasy" is the most cliche BS lie people tell themselves, and also it shows how the word "fantasy" no longer has any meaning, it lost its original meaning

A fantasy has always been something that YOU WANT TO MAKE COME TRUE, so its ridiculous how I see people using it in the context of sexual fetishes, the term literally makes no sense when used like this

ITS LIKE A GUY SAYING - "ITS MY DREAM TO GROW UP AND BE A FIRE FIGHTER" AND THEN FINISHES WITH "BUT ITS JUST A DREAM THOUGH, I WOULD NEVER DO THAT"

ITS FUCKING RETARDED, IT MAKES NO SENSE, THE TERM IS BEING FALSELY USED, THE PEOPLE SAYING THIS SHIT

ARE LYING TO THEMSELVES AND/OR OTHERS



WANT SOME PROOF/EXAMPLES?

The best example of this nonsense is when it comes to rape fetishes

I caught a user contradicting himself calling what he wanted "just a fantasy" while in previous threads admitting that he would commit rape if given the chance, all the guys on this site saying "I would never rape" actually just mean "I currently lack the sufficient means, oppurtunity and urges to commit rape"

@First loss created a thread about the glorification of rape on the site and why it needs to stop (replying is now locked in the thread)

https://incels.is/threads/glorification-of-rape-in-this-community-needs-to-stop.135372/

A now banned user @AlphaCel agreed in the thread and said this (making the cliche "its JUST a fantasy" argument):

I don't know how you would feel about my situation. I'm a sick fuck, I know, but I have a rape fetish. Like the only type of porn I cam get off to is forced porn. Do I fantasize about rape? yes. Would ever I act on those fantasies and actually go rape someone? Hell no.

So do I still give the community a bad name? Because I get turned on by rape porn (even tho those videos are fake, it's just my fetish), but I would never go actually hurt someone. So I want to know how you feel about that tbh

We argued, there was some back and forth, I went through his post history and found this thread by @wizardcel about owning sex slaves:

https://incels.is/threads/this-is-the-final-proof-that-we-were-born-in-the-wrong-era.135394/

He posted this in the thread:

I bet they were easy to get too. Being able to fuck cute Japanese bitches everyday? Sign me up. This would be true life fuel if we lived back then

When I confronted him about this post, he humorously responded with (deleted the comment after but I quoted it in my response):

Ok,, I fucked up there, I need to think about that. Yes, I was inconsistent in that post. But if you had a sex slave right there at your disposal, would you not fight your urges? I would try as hard as I can. But you have to think, in those ages, you didn't have porn to stimulate your brain like in modern days.
I have porn to fulfil my fantasies now. So I have no reason to act on my fantasies. However, the 15th century was different. Instead of porn, I would only have those japanese sex slaves to tame my horniness. I mean, you gotta get your dopamine somehow. Don't sit here and say you wouldn't. So in that situation, yes I would rape. But in modern times, no, I would not.

You guys are turning into whiteknight cucks. Look at all details carefully before you try to play hero.

MOVING GOAL POSTS LIKE A PRO JFL

So rape is ok if he doesn't have an outlet

Notice how he went from:
"its just a fantasy, I would never rape"
TO
"if given the sufficient means, opportunity and urges I would rape"

EVERYBODY SAYING "ITS JUST A FANTASY" IS LYING TO THEMSELVES AND/OR OTHERS



The most common fetish among women today is a "rape fetish", and they all like to say "its just a fantasy" though you'll find endless reddit posts from guilty wives and girlfriends admitting that they never orgasmed from consensual sex, but they orgasmed from rape, oh but "its just a fantasy my dear, its not like I really want it, its all in my head"

Also statistically 80% of women claim they can only orgasm from direct clitoral stimulation and not vagina sex, yet around 50+% of women raped admit to orgasming during the act (penetrative rape).

So what does that tell you, rape like magic can more consistently yield an orgasm than consensual sex, yet "its just a fantasy" and they don't really want it "deep down"?

"ITS JUST A FANTASY" is just a coping mechanism, its an excuse people give themselves so they can enjoy the idea of the fetish while never admitting to themselves that they would gladly take part in it, its about them preserving their ego and thinking highly of themselves

I'll say it again

EVERYBODY SAYING "ITS JUST A FANTASY" IS LYING TO THEMSELVES AND/OR OTHERS

EVERY "FANTASY" I HAVE IS SOMETHING I WANT TO COME TRUE AND I AM WORKING TO MAKE IT COME TRUE

IF YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WANT IT, STOP CALLING IT A FANTASY

 

[Deleted member 15752]

Legit thread, I always considered a fantasy something that I want to act out. Otherwise there is no point to fantasize about something you dont perceive to give you some sort of pleasure or goal.

 

[Deleted member 19858]

Legit thread, I always considered a fantasy something that I want to act out. Otherwise there is no point to fantasize about something you dont perceive to give you some sort of pleasure or goal.

Speedread mogs me hard

 

[Deleted member 15752]

Speedread mogs me hard

Big text made my brain comprehend much more in less time tbh

 

[Deleted member 21504]

True, but it really took you a lot of words to say it.

Big text made my brain comprehend much more in less time tbh

 

[Deleted member 18214]

Speedread mogs me hard

Its over for slowcels

 

[ryhan]

The statement that "its just a fantasy" is the most cliche BS lie people tell themselves, and also it shows how the word "fantasy" no longer has any meaning, it lost its original meaning

A fantasy has always been something that YOU WANT TO MAKE COME TRUE, so its ridiculous how I see people using it in the context of sexual fetishes, the term literally makes no sense when used like this

ITS LIKE A GUY SAYING - "ITS MY DREAM TO GROW UP AND BE A FIRE FIGHTER" AND THEN FINISHES WITH "BUT ITS JUST A DREAM THOUGH, I WOULD NEVER DO THAT"

ITS FUCKING RETARDED, IT MAKES NO SENSE, THE TERM IS BEING FALSELY USED, THE PEOPLE SAYING THIS SHIT

ARE LYING TO THEMSELVES AND/OR OTHERS



WANT SOME PROOF/EXAMPLES?

The best example of this nonsense is when it comes to rape fetishes

I caught a user contradicting himself calling what he wanted "just a fantasy" while in previous threads admitting that he would commit rape if given the chance, all the guys on this site saying "I would never rape" actually just mean "I currently lack the sufficient means, oppurtunity and urges to commit rape"

@First loss created a thread about the glorification of rape on the site and why it needs to stop (replying is now locked in the thread)

https://incels.is/threads/glorification-of-rape-in-this-community-needs-to-stop.135372/

A now banned user @AlphaCel agreed in the thread and said this (making the cliche "its JUST a fantasy" argument):



We argued, there was some back and forth, I went through his post history and found this thread by @wizardcel about owning sex slaves:

https://incels.is/threads/this-is-the-final-proof-that-we-were-born-in-the-wrong-era.135394/

He posted this in the thread:



When I confronted him about this post, he humorously responded with (deleted the comment after but I quoted it in my response):


MOVING GOAL POSTS LIKE A PRO JFL

So rape is ok if he doesn't have an outlet

Notice how he went from:
"its just a fantasy, I would never rape"
TO
"if given the sufficient means, opportunity and urges I would rape"

EVERYBODY SAYING "ITS JUST A FANTASY" IS LYING TO THEMSELVES AND/OR OTHERS



The most common fetish among women today is a "rape fetish", and they all like to say "its just a fantasy" though you'll find endless reddit posts from guilty wives and girlfriends admitting that they never orgasmed from consensual sex, but they orgasmed from rape, oh but "its just a fantasy my dear, its not like I really want it, its all in my head"

"ITS JUST A FANTASY" is just a coping mechanism, its an excuse people give themselves so they can enjoy the idea of the fetish while never admitting to themselves that they would gladly take part in it, its about them preserving their ego and thinking highly of themselves

I'll say it again

EVERYBODY SAYING "ITS JUST A FANTASY" IS LYING TO THEMSELVES AND/OR OTHERS

EVERY "FANTASY" I HAVE IS SOMETHING I WANT TO COME TRUE AND I AM WORKING TO MAKE IT COME TRUE

IF YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WANT IT, STOP CALLING IT A FANTASY

Just cause i want to be sexually dominated does not equate to i want female dominance over all sectors of every day life a fantasy in the bedroom is mere role play that should be kept that way no one in actuality wants to be controlled in every facet of life

 

[BlkPillPres]

Just cause i want to be sexually dominated does not equate to i want female dominance over all sectors of every day life a fantasy in the bedroom is mere role play that should be kept that way no one in actuality wants to be controlled in every facet of life

Never made that claim in this thread (wanting dominance in all sectors), two separate issues, but please understand you can't separate one from the other, a woman who dominates you in the bedroom will dominate you in all aspects of life because she will not respect you, you will be cucked or she will leave you, the only way to experience what you want and not get cucked is to pursue it outside of a relationship (pay for it)

But JFL at paying to be dominated and placed in a submissive role, its like a slave paying someone to enslave them, else never get submissive fetishes, it doesn't make sense, one should always seek to dominate, it should be innate to them, especially a man

 

[dyellow]

Big text made my brain comprehend much more in less time tbh

quite the opposite for me

 

[BlkPillPres]

Legit thread, I always considered a fantasy something that I want to act out. Otherwise there is no point to fantasize about something you dont perceive to give you some sort of pleasure or goal.

This, everytime I heard that line I basically made a mental "double take", it makes no sense at all, its like these people don't listen to themselves speak, a fantasy is something you want to come true

To use the example from my thread:

ITS LIKE A GUY SAYING - "ITS MY DREAM TO GROW UP AND BE A FIRE FIGHTER" AND THEN FINISHES WITH "BUT ITS JUST A DREAM THOUGH, I WOULD NEVER DO THAT"

No child says they have a fantasy of what they want to be when they grow up and then finishes it with "but its just a fantasy so I would never do it"

If I created a thread to rank the Top most NPC cliches in the world, I would put the line "its just a fantasy" at least at #2 on the list if not #1

 

[Deleted member 4159]

 

[Deleted member 17419]

Quality thread, as expected (and usual) from you.

 

[dyellow]

@BlkPillPres Interesting take but it could easily just be the case of misused words. For example, people use "literally" everytime nowadays as an exageration which defeats the purpose of using the word "literally".

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

When talking about rape fantasies this post is even more relevant for women than for us tbh. Women(mainly) are less concerned about truth than to appear fashionable and non-controversial, just another one of their bluepilled copes.

 

[BlkPillPres]

@BlkPillPres Interesting take but it could easily just be the case of misused words. For example, people use "literally" everytime nowadays as an exageration which defeats the purpose of using the word "literally".

That's a bad example, I don't see how that is different from the original definition, its not the definition that changed in that context, its the same definition, its just that its being applied as a lie for comedic purposes or its being applied to something truthful for the purpose of exxageration, but the definition (as in what the word means) didn't change

If a teen says - "my dad is literally going to kill me for this"

The usage is no different than someone saying - "Delhi is literally the rape capital of India"

The meaning of the word "literally" did not change

Whereas when it comes to "fantasy" as used with reference to fetishes - "I like to think about doing X but I would never do X" is completely different to the original definition of "fantasy" - "I like to think about doing X and I want to do X in real life"

 

[dyellow]

That's a bad example, I don't see how that is different from the original definition, its not the definition that changed in that context, its the same definition, its just that its being applied as a lie for comedic purposes or its being applied to something truthful for the purpose of exxageration, but the definition (as in what the word means) didn't change

If a teen says - "my dad is literally going to kill me for this"

The usage is no different than someone saying - "Delhi is literally the rape capital of India"

The meaning of the word "literally" did not change

Whereas when it comes to "fantasy" as used with reference to fetishes - "I like to think about doing X but I would never do X" is completely different to the original definition of "fantasy" - "I like to think about doing X and I want to do X in real life"

I'm saying that words have different meanings and when you add personal experience on top of it, it makes even less sense to be so focused in one word, rather than the idea he's trying to convey.
If you say "US is literally the most dangerous country in the world" What do they mean by "literally"? Is it an exageration? What the idea behind that?
He could have easily be the case that he didn't know what word he should use and meant that it's something he thought would be fun in his head, but if he actually saw it happening he would be disgusted by it.
That's why people commonly say "I didn't mean that" or "What did you mean by that word?" in discussions.
All I'm saying is there's no reason to be so obsessed with this particular word.

 

[Player]

I want to be 12 again.

 

[BlkPillPres]

If you say "US is literally the most dangerous country in the world" What do they mean by "literally"?

Literally - Definition, Meaning & Synonyms

The adverb literally means "actually," and we use it when we want others to know we're serious, not exaggerating or being metaphorical.

www.vocabulary.com

"The adverb literally means "actually," and we use it when we want others to know we're serious, not exaggerating or being metaphorical."

Like I said the definition doesn't change, I went into such detail, I don't see how were still arguing this

The definition isn't being changed like it is with the term "fantasy" which goes from "something you want to do" to "something you only think about doing"

 

[dyellow]

Literally - Definition, Meaning & Synonyms

The adverb literally means "actually," and we use it when we want others to know we're serious, not exaggerating or being metaphorical.

www.vocabulary.com

"The adverb literally means "actually," and we use it when we want others to know we're serious, not exaggerating or being metaphorical."

Like I said the definition doesn't change, I went into such detail, I don't see how were still arguing this

The definition isn't being changed like it is with the term "fantasy" which goes from "something you want to do" to "something you only think about doing"

If you still can't understand my point, there's nothing I can do about it, I often forgot a lot of people here are in the spectrum my bad

 

[BlkPillPres]

If you still can't understand my point, there's nothing I can do about it

I do understand, your point is just wrong

He could have easily be the case that he didn't know what word he should use and meant that it's something he thought would be fun in his head, but if he actually saw it happening he would be disgusted by it.

That is LITERALLY an example of misusing a term JFL, that's my point exactly, the term is being misused

 

[dyellow]

I do understand, your point is just wrong



That is LITERALLY an example of misusing a term JFL, that's my point exactly, the term is being misused

No, your point is an aspie rant on the deep psychology of misusing a term.

 

[YBP Yxngcel]

The statement that "its just a fantasy" is the most cliche BS lie people tell themselves, and also it shows how the word "fantasy" no longer has any meaning, it lost its original meaning

A fantasy has always been something that YOU WANT TO MAKE COME TRUE, so its ridiculous how I see people using it in the context of sexual fetishes, the term literally makes no sense when used like this

ITS LIKE A GUY SAYING - "ITS MY DREAM TO GROW UP AND BE A FIRE FIGHTER" AND THEN FINISHES WITH "BUT ITS JUST A DREAM THOUGH, I WOULD NEVER DO THAT"

ITS FUCKING RETARDED, IT MAKES NO SENSE, THE TERM IS BEING FALSELY USED, THE PEOPLE SAYING THIS SHIT

ARE LYING TO THEMSELVES AND/OR OTHERS



WANT SOME PROOF/EXAMPLES?

The best example of this nonsense is when it comes to rape fetishes

I caught a user contradicting himself calling what he wanted "just a fantasy" while in previous threads admitting that he would commit rape if given the chance, all the guys on this site saying "I would never rape" actually just mean "I currently lack the sufficient means, oppurtunity and urges to commit rape"

@First loss created a thread about the glorification of rape on the site and why it needs to stop (replying is now locked in the thread)

https://incels.is/threads/glorification-of-rape-in-this-community-needs-to-stop.135372/

A now banned user @AlphaCel agreed in the thread and said this (making the cliche "its JUST a fantasy" argument):



We argued, there was some back and forth, I went through his post history and found this thread by @wizardcel about owning sex slaves:

https://incels.is/threads/this-is-the-final-proof-that-we-were-born-in-the-wrong-era.135394/

He posted this in the thread:



When I confronted him about this post, he humorously responded with (deleted the comment after but I quoted it in my response):


MOVING GOAL POSTS LIKE A PRO JFL

So rape is ok if he doesn't have an outlet

Notice how he went from:
"its just a fantasy, I would never rape"
TO
"if given the sufficient means, opportunity and urges I would rape"

EVERYBODY SAYING "ITS JUST A FANTASY" IS LYING TO THEMSELVES AND/OR OTHERS



The most common fetish among women today is a "rape fetish", and they all like to say "its just a fantasy" though you'll find endless reddit posts from guilty wives and girlfriends admitting that they never orgasmed from consensual sex, but they orgasmed from rape, oh but "its just a fantasy my dear, its not like I really want it, its all in my head"

Also statistically 80% of women claim they can only orgasm from direct clitoral stimulation and not vagina sex, yet around 50+% of women raped admit to orgasming during the act (penetrative rape).

So what does that tell you, rape like magic can more consistently yield an orgasm than consensual sex, yet "its just a fantasy" and they don't really want it "deep down"?

"ITS JUST A FANTASY" is just a coping mechanism, its an excuse people give themselves so they can enjoy the idea of the fetish while never admitting to themselves that they would gladly take part in it, its about them preserving their ego and thinking highly of themselves

I'll say it again

EVERYBODY SAYING "ITS JUST A FANTASY" IS LYING TO THEMSELVES AND/OR OTHERS

EVERY "FANTASY" I HAVE IS SOMETHING I WANT TO COME TRUE AND I AM WORKING TO MAKE IT COME TRUE

IF YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WANT IT, STOP CALLING IT A FANTASY

They are ashamed of their own fetishes and true biological nature. Its a natural urge to want to rape and dominate foids. We're on an incel forum where no one knows anybody's true identity.

So express the dirty fetishes that you would love to commit in real life. I personally want to anal cream pie a big booty foid so hard that she start squirting my semen out her anus non stop and leave a gallon of baby goo in her esophagus jfl.

But yeah I can understand why they would lie in irl though. I mean such fetishes are taboo in cucked modern world. So I would too.

 

[SupremeGentleman48]

A now banned user @AlphaCel agreed in the thread and said this (making the cliche "its JUST a fantasy" argument):

You have to be a big person to actually rape another. If you're a little mfer then you'll just end up fighting the bitch

 

[BlkPillPres]

You have to be a big person to actually rape another. If you're a little mfer then you'll just end up fighting the bitch

Wrong, you just need to have an average build. Men are not only stronger, we have like 10 times the bone density, our muscles tire out at a slower rate, etc, etc, etc. Unless you are just trying to rape amazonian tier women you won't have a problem. Most women don't even train much at the gym so they can't even make up for the difference in strength in most cases. So a guy who doesn't even train won't have much of a problem.