BlkPillPres said:
I think coach red pill is a great example of this, naive loser males being led like idiots
This guy is making a minimum of 10K a month on patreon and all he does is spew pointless red pill bullshit, but a lot of men (most) are pathetic and have a followers mindset, they don't want to take responsibility for their own lives and their own path in life, and its much easier to just place all of your thoughts, hopes and decisions in your "leader"
Imo it's quaint in a way but leaders are always fallible.
But there is no long term strategy to not getting co-opted by dissident groups that are as desperate to win and feel like they are losing currently, even if it's in different ways that they are losing.
Pretty much all men are looking for a "leader" and that's why desperate men who are failing at life at prime targets for "cult" shit like this
Its pathetic really
Osama Bin Laden had many wives and made sexless males die for jihad,
Many terrorist leaders are actually quite sane and successful in life but make desperate men die for their cause
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The alt-right shrugs off the death of individual white males as needed for the greater good of the white race.
Same with black nationalists.
Same with socialists and communists.
Every side is looking to use vulnerable confused males.
Mainstream society has that right.
But the thing is, mainstream society doesn't have those low status male's best interests are heart either.
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@Robtical
Robtical said:
I was around the manosphere since 2012, and there were MRAs and mgtow before the redpill was a thing. Some people may have used the redpill to refer to MRAs or mgtow, but that's because the redpill is shaky and easily misinterpreted, unlike the blackpill which is mostly cut and dry.
I disagree. I think that by 2012 the redpill was quite well formulated and the origins and ideas rested firmly in MRA and mgtow communities with PUAs chomping at the heels and pretending they came up with all that stuff after previously dismissing it as "beta" and defeatist.
They wouldn't do that out of fear of being called simps and cucks, if they were really blackpilled. The blackpill will never turn into chad and rostie worship.
The blackpill
is already Chad worship. Look at the virgin versus chad memes. Look at how normies flatteringly refer to people successful with women as chads. Look at how chads are seen as having a positive and funny connotation in society.
Look at how the blackpill exposing even more the shallow nature of women and society has made a lot of people respect women more for their hustle and respect men less for their gullibility.
Not to mention the additional excuses they get now to treat ugly males worse because to them anything women don't like equals bad.
It can't be done by going through courts yet, that's why it will have to start with a group effort of millions of uncucked men, who won't mind going to jail for a while and paying some fines until the cucked laws change. Tax evasion doesn't even always land people in prison for not paying, look at e-whore and online drug dealers for example.
We have the internet to make the group effort easier to accomplish, we don't have to depend on word of mouth. If only a few people get punished by the government for evading taxes then they'll know most the group pussies out, and they'll try again next year.
No one will go to jail if millions do it. Breaking a cucked law, like smoking weed, not paying taxes, or jay walking, are rules that are meant to be broken because they are unfair and illogical, especially to uncucked men when it comes to taxes.
That's your prerogative but I highly recommend others here that have thought of that not to do it because it is always a losing proposition and will get you in the same kind of trouble as the Bundy ranch standoff in 2016 and Waco did.
If they're like that then they're white chad worshiping cucks and we don't need their help anyway.
It's not so much that "we won't need their help". It's that they won't leave people like us alone if they see our cause is succeeding.
They are much like parasites that they chide the jews as.
They never created anything of their own and want to co-opt "movements" or discredit "movements" they weren't able to co-opt.
They see incels as useful idiots for their cause. Same as other political factions and groups.
We need to keep them out and prevent them from co-opting concepts so easily and trying to recruit people here to their cause and same with other dissident political ideologies.
That means banning them from all blackpill spaces and not tolerating concern trolling or spam for them.
This is more of a problem when you try to communicate over more decentralized nonspecific platforms where anyone can post.
MRAs and mgtow ran into this problem very early on and it still plagues them to this day. Look at the bitchute channels. Just plagued with white nationalist trolls and people accusing men's rights groups of being a jewish plot and "misogynistic".
They claim everything they don't like is jewish or a jewish plot. They are now claiming incels are because jewish people have taken over society.
They deflect all blame from women. They are currently trying to use incels for their own ends. If that doesn't work then just like MRAs and mgtow they'll claim incels are jewish and try to discredit them.
That's what groups like the SPLC have in mind. Not only do they try to discredit you as listing you as a hate group but they also take advantage of "crank magnetism" to attract the curious but hostile interest of actual unrelated groups like white nationalists to try and co-opt you, demonizing you and discrediting you doubly if they fail to co-opt you.
It's an attack from both sides. The people falsely associating you with a group that does not share your goals and the group that was falsely associated with you seeking to harass you when they find out that you cannot be easily co-opted.
