I saw a post about how the shooter was taking pictures copying what others were doing, see here:
I was going to originally make this a reply but I think this warrants it's own thread. For starters this guy completely lacked any sort of original ideas or thought. I know you could argue that everything has been done before and all new ideas are just spins on old ideas, and while that's true, he didn't even really put his own spin on it. Even in his manifesto, it's mostly just 4chan shitposts copied and pasted and wojaks. Even the idea of a "shitpost manifesto" has already been done before, and multiple times.
The bigger issue was how irony poisoned this guy was. Think about it, anyone who plans to shoot up their school and kill themselves, and actually goes through with it has a lot of very serious mental issues and clearly has strong emotions that motivated them to do it. Yet his manifesto is full of 4chan shitposts, soyjaks, and very basic 4chan ironybro jokes "lol the markiplier subreddit helped me do this". He doesn't really explain why he did what he did, and even his manifesto acknowledges the pointlessness of it all since he acknowledged his actions wouldn't change anything and that he'd quickly be forgotten.
So ultimately the shooter was the prototypical male zoomer. A terminally online, hyper-introverted, copycat ironybro incel who constantly hid behind "muh layers of irony" but behind all of it was an empty husk of a man with severe issues.
But he couldn't sincerely address those issues...not even in his manifesto, knowing damn well nobody would read it until he was dead anyway. That's how mortified he was of being sincere. Male zoomers who do this (minus the school shooting part) are a dime a dozen. Like half of my male zoomer coworkers are like this. Constantly hiding behind LAYERS OF IRONY, mortified of any sort of sincere expression. Being sincere is "cringe". You wouldn't want to be like a CRINGE MILLENNIAL, would you?
It's like male zoomers are in a weird pissing contest to see who can be the most smug, nihilistic "above-it-all" ironybro. Ironically, he mentioned how he wasn't bullied in a conventional sense, but was bullied in a "cultural" sense that "everyone" is. He didn't really expand on this, but what's ironic is that he was socially repressed by the very zoomer ironybro culture that he worshipped.
In conclusion: None of this would have happened if he were a pretty boy
. But seriously, I have no idea how this problem could be solved, or if it's even solvable to begin with. Cultural issues are very difficult to solve and it probably takes generations to fully resolve them. Zoomers will likely always be like this to some extent. People generally internalize the culture they grew up with. Even when the culture changes, part of them will always remain the same. Not to mention this seems to be getting worse and worse. 18 year old zoomers seem more irony poisoned than zoomers in their mid to late 20s. A large amount of the population being perpetually insincere and terrified of lowering the irony shield is a symptom of a severely flawed society. I also know zoomers face a lot of serious issues, both economic and cultural, and maybe being an ironybro 24/7 is their way of avoiding the harsh reality. Maybe someone who actually has a triple digit IQ can tie this all together, articulate it better than I'm capable of, and diagnose the root problem.
I was going to originally make this a reply but I think this warrants it's own thread. For starters this guy completely lacked any sort of original ideas or thought. I know you could argue that everything has been done before and all new ideas are just spins on old ideas, and while that's true, he didn't even really put his own spin on it. Even in his manifesto, it's mostly just 4chan shitposts copied and pasted and wojaks. Even the idea of a "shitpost manifesto" has already been done before, and multiple times.
The bigger issue was how irony poisoned this guy was. Think about it, anyone who plans to shoot up their school and kill themselves, and actually goes through with it has a lot of very serious mental issues and clearly has strong emotions that motivated them to do it. Yet his manifesto is full of 4chan shitposts, soyjaks, and very basic 4chan ironybro jokes "lol the markiplier subreddit helped me do this". He doesn't really explain why he did what he did, and even his manifesto acknowledges the pointlessness of it all since he acknowledged his actions wouldn't change anything and that he'd quickly be forgotten.
So ultimately the shooter was the prototypical male zoomer. A terminally online, hyper-introverted, copycat ironybro incel who constantly hid behind "muh layers of irony" but behind all of it was an empty husk of a man with severe issues.
But he couldn't sincerely address those issues...not even in his manifesto, knowing damn well nobody would read it until he was dead anyway. That's how mortified he was of being sincere. Male zoomers who do this (minus the school shooting part) are a dime a dozen. Like half of my male zoomer coworkers are like this. Constantly hiding behind LAYERS OF IRONY, mortified of any sort of sincere expression. Being sincere is "cringe". You wouldn't want to be like a CRINGE MILLENNIAL, would you?
It's like male zoomers are in a weird pissing contest to see who can be the most smug, nihilistic "above-it-all" ironybro. Ironically, he mentioned how he wasn't bullied in a conventional sense, but was bullied in a "cultural" sense that "everyone" is. He didn't really expand on this, but what's ironic is that he was socially repressed by the very zoomer ironybro culture that he worshipped.
In conclusion: None of this would have happened if he were a pretty boy
. But seriously, I have no idea how this problem could be solved, or if it's even solvable to begin with. Cultural issues are very difficult to solve and it probably takes generations to fully resolve them. Zoomers will likely always be like this to some extent. People generally internalize the culture they grew up with. Even when the culture changes, part of them will always remain the same. Not to mention this seems to be getting worse and worse. 18 year old zoomers seem more irony poisoned than zoomers in their mid to late 20s. A large amount of the population being perpetually insincere and terrified of lowering the irony shield is a symptom of a severely flawed society. I also know zoomers face a lot of serious issues, both economic and cultural, and maybe being an ironybro 24/7 is their way of avoiding the harsh reality. Maybe someone who actually has a triple digit IQ can tie this all together, articulate it better than I'm capable of, and diagnose the root problem.
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