Based The axis powers should have won.

[2Headpats4You]

Germany was on the brink of Space age. Japan was going to modernise Asia and separate it from the control of European powers with no cultural bond with the nations.
The Brits, just like in WWI, used false propaganda to motivate its people while they should have sided with the Germans; they were so similar; they even had a German king until he was forced to abdicate due to unrelated reasons. Even the soviets were motivated by the Jews propaganda of evident falsehoods.

The French collaborated horizontally, and were not very pleased with the D-day invasion. The Yanks were more German than English and had no business in Asia which was the natural sphere of influence of Japan. Japans GDP did not return to its 1945 level until 1955 after the occupation. 10 000 japanese women were raped and sexually assaulted by allied troops during the siege of Okinawa alone; imagine the great travesty of defeat on the Japanese psyche. The space age was postponed by the treatment of the German space program and has not been modernised since the 70:s.
The Jew-soap meme is a result of the Jews projection of envy, cleanliness and inferiority complex onto the Germans. Even if all Jews had died which would not have been the case, the world would be much better with Jewish influence to artificially fuel feminism, degeneracy, dysgenics, poverty, depression and hormonal abnormalities in what could have been a much longer information age.
There would be no artificial over population in Africa and Asia which along with the chemical polution ov the ZWO (Zionist world order) has put nature in tears.

While all humans should have died as early as possible, it would be a great improvement.

 

[2Headpats4You]

The brits and the french would have been killed like dogs so yeah sure.

the French were treated better under german occupation than under post war occupation.


The population boom in Japan is another argument for why they should have colonised Indonesia and Australia.

They would probably handle the austroloids better than the anglos who have mismanaged it quite a bit.

 

[Deleted member 26140]

Water is wet.

 

[Deleted member 17883]

No point in crying over what could've been. It's over.

 

[Mecoja]

 

[The Cagot]

Was it really good under Vichy? didn't french women fuck germans?

Most of the French civilians who died in WWII died from Allied massive bombings. Other French who died were Jews, Gays and Gypsies.
Life wasn't good under Vichy, but a large part of the problem was the food shortages due to the War against the Allies, plus Germans who took most of the food to supply their Army.

But it would be a lack of knownledge to think the nazi movement wasn't known here. Many French were supporting this movement and its ideas to get rid of the responsibles of the 1929 economical crisis.

1940 France is often see as the pure virgin gentle country to save and that never deserved what happened to it. But nazi ideas were widely spread long before Hitler crossed the Ardennes, and the nazi project had many enthusiasts supporters. A lot of French, including a ton of foids, supported Germany. Millions of other French didn't cared at all about this war. Life was already completely miserable since 1929, so it didn't changed many things.

Those reasons led the Allies to "punish" us with massive bombings on cities where Allies knew there was zero German army in. It systematically happened in Normandy, where the Allies completely destroyed all the cities where only civilians were.

Even nowadays, people are mitigated about those events and about our "liberation".
25% of the French population is nowadays supporting extremists far-right or nazi ideas. The leader of the movement, Marine Le Pen, a foid, tries to become president. Which is rather ironical : a foid is the far-right leader in France. Which is a big problem : must we vote for a foid, if she's far-right ?

 

[Idotms]

they fucked up when they attacked the soviet union
Their own god damn fault

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

I presume my life would have been better.

 

[Deleted member 776]

Anyone ever watched Man in the high castle?

The point of the show is supposed to be "Nazis bad" but life in the Reich is pretty good and the most interesting character on the show is obergruppenführer John Smith.

It's fantasy of course - people believe two key myths about Nazi Germany - they were not efficient economically. National socialism is the veneer of private property but inevitably ends up with a centrally planned economy which creates severe dysfunction. The Germans had critical deficiencies in the supply of numerous raw materials, never switched their economy to total war production (which has its own problems) and never applied mass production principles to things like tanks and made some foolish design choices. Also the myth of Nazi technological superiority. The allies were either equal or ahead where it mattered. German jet engines were a little ahead of the British ones in term of design but the British jet engines were far more reliable and long lived. The allied atomic bomb project was ahead of the German project. American tanks were inferior in many categories but were more serviceable and there was no shortage of spare parts - in 1945 the British started fielding early versions of the Centurion which was vastly superior to all Panzers and was still holding its own as late as 1987. Allied intelligence gathering was vastly ahead. The Germans fielded the same planes throughout the war for the most part while Britain and the US produced new designs and took advantage of better aviation fuels. Yeah the allies never had the MG-42 or STG-44 but they had the Garrand and the Bren gun which were pretty good.

There is no reason to suppose an axis victory would have produced any kind of lasting stability, economic prosperity or peace.

War between the Reich and Imperial Japan would have been inevitable. Japan was navally superior at the time but its Achilles heal just like Britain was reliance on shipping and its overseas colonies and its Asian land borders. It was weak. The Japanese army was quite suited to mountain warfare - they were not natural jungle fighters but none the less did reasonably well and got lucky a few times - The Chinese were really not much of an enemy. The German army was vastly superior to the Japanese army if they had clashed say out on the steppe in central Asia it would have been over for Japan. The red army bested the Kwuantung army at the battle of Khalkin Gol in the late 1930's. What would the Wehrmacht have done?

Also I think the Nazis would have found just like the Romans with Britain that the Americas was far to big of a prize to hold on to. Whoever commanded the German occupation forces in America would have had the power to overthrow the fuhrer - just like the governors of Roman Britain did.

 

[Deleted member 26032]

Water is wet.

 

[Deleted member 27495]

they did win, soyciety is going to shit thanks to the legacy hitler left

 

[Deleted member 27159]

The day the Germans capitulated was the day the entire world lost the war

 

[omegauprising]

yeah, humanity lost ww2

 

[nystagmuscel]

Hitler should’ve won

 

[CrackingYs]

One day the pendulum will swing back, and people will realise the genius and logic of National Socialism. The Fourth Reich is inevitable.

 

[Darkenzo]

Technically they did win, more or less anyway they just need to finish off the RAF which they could have done in 1940 if they had concentrated their bombing on air bases rather than cities. But then they invaded the Soviet Union instead. The Soviet Union would have collapsed within a few months if the Germans hadn't pursued Nazi ideology as Stalin/Communism wasn't popular at all. They were out throwing flowers at invading German tanks at first treating them as liberators. As it was they ended up getting bogged down into an attritional war with far less resources than the nation they were attacking.

 

[Deleted member 17883]

foolish design choices

More like batshit crazy. Some of those tanks look like they belong to a fantasy novel.

Then again that was star wars main inspiration for the empire starship destroyers. Kek.

 

[Deleted member 776]

Technically they did win, more or less anyway they just need to finish off the RAF which they could have done in 1940 if they had concentrated their bombing on air bases rather than cities. But then they invaded the Soviet Union instead. The Soviet Union would have collapsed within a few months if the Germans hadn't pursued Nazi ideology as Stalin/Communism wasn't popular at all. They were out throwing flowers at invading German tanks at first treating them as liberators. As it was they ended up getting bogged down into an attritional war with far less resources than the nation they were attacking.

They were close to exhausting the RAF in the south of England but the RAF still had plenty of reserves in the Midlands and the North.

Their invasion fleet was also kind of a joke. The Royal Navy with cover provided by airbases further up the coast would have just come down and cut off the German supply lines, shelled the landing zones and it probably would have been over had they landed an army. Also even if somehow the Germans had successfully occupied the UK mainland the government would have just relocated to Ottawa along with the king and the Royal Navy and carried on the war. The Germans didn't have a credible Navy.

Instead of landing in Normandy in 1944 the western allies would have probably staged the invasion force in Portugal - Portugal had offered to join the war in 1939 under the terms of the Anglo-Portuguese alliance but Britain said no because they had some dirty deal with General Franco. My guess is when the US joined the war they would have basically bribed/bullied Franco into coming to the allies side with $$$$ and territorial concessions.

It is shocking how badly the Germans bodged the invasion of the USSR. Most of the USSR that they invaded had been brutalised by Stalin for years and had a history of Russian persecution even before that. Many of them still put on a German uniform and became "Hiwis" but for Germans turned out to be even more ruthless than Stalin because they had basically decided to exterminate most of the slavic peoples in those areas. You think they would have at least pretended to be friendly at first. The Germans treatment of the local populations meant they ended up having to devote 10% of their forces in the USSR just to fighting partisans.

 

[Darkenzo]

They were close to exhausting the RAF in the south of England but the RAF still had plenty of reserves in the Midlands and the North.

The Germans would have to gradually wear the RAF down through attrition so it would have taken another year or two if they concentrated on Britain and left the USSR and the USA alone. The USA likely wouldn't have got involved in Europe if the USSR wasn't involved they would have just gone after Japan in an entirely separate war after Pearl Harbour. Once the RAF was removed the Royal Navy would be very vulnerable to air attack and the British supply lines would subsequently be severed by U-Boat wolf packs.

Their invasion fleet was also kind of a joke. The Royal Navy with cover provided by airbases further up the coast would have just come down and cut off the German supply lines, shelled the landing zones and it probably would have been over had they landed an army. Also even if somehow the Germans had successfully occupied the UK mainland the government would have just relocated to Ottawa along with the king and the Royal Navy and carried on the war. The Germans didn't have a credible Navy.

The Germans wouldn't need to set foot on British soil there would be an uprising against Churchill's government if people were beginning to starve and a truce was offered. The Germans didn't particularly want to occupy Britain just have it under its Axis sphere like Spain, Vichy France, Romania and Italy. Though Blackpool was going to be a popular Nazi holiday resort. Britain would have ended up with Oswald Mosley for Prime Minister but the Royal family (who were kind of pro-German/Nazi anyway) would have been retained as would what remained of the British Empire. The war would have been effectively over by 1943 had Operation Barbarossa not been a thing and Germany retained it's non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union. Invading the Soviet Union after a truce with Britain would have been feasible but only if the Germans didn't implement their racial cleansing agenda. If they had treated the east as they treated Western Europe they would have found a generally happy to be conquered population and relatively weak willed resistance. So the Germans would have had the European half of Russia under control by 1944 and that would have been the extent of the Third Reich, which may well have lasted for 1000 years as Hitler had in mind.

Instead of landing in Normandy in 1944 the western allies would have probably staged the invasion force in Portugal - Portugal had offered to join the war in 1939 under the terms of the Anglo-Portuguese alliance but Britain said no because they had some dirty deal with General Franco. My guess is when the US joined the war they would have basically bribed/bullied Franco into coming to the allies side with $$$$ and territorial concessions.

In this alternative history there wouldn't really have been an 'Allied' side it would have just been the UK all by itself then possibly the USSR all by itself at some point. The USA would likely have kept well clear of Europe/Russia if Britain had capitulated. They may have been a kind of Cold War scenario between the US and the Reich or perhaps they would have been on relatively peaceful terms post war given that the Germans would be doing a good job suppressing Communism and the Japanese Empire would have been defeated anyway if Pearl Harbor still occurred exactly the way it did.

It is shocking how badly the Germans bodged the invasion of the USSR. Most of the USSR that they invaded had been brutalised by Stalin for years and had a history of Russian persecution even before that. Many of them still put on a German uniform and became "Hiwis" but for Germans turned out to be even more ruthless than Stalin because they had basically decided to exterminate most of the slavic peoples in those areas. You think they would have at least pretended to be friendly at first. The Germans treatment of the local populations meant they ended up having to devote 10% of their forces in the USSR just to fighting partisans.

The whole invasion of the Soviet Union was part of Hitler's ideological racial struggle of acquiring "living space" for people of pure German blood in the eastern lands. It's even elaborated in detail in Mein Kampf so that was always his agenda from the start not, he didn't have something like British Empire ruling over different ethnic peoples in mind at all. So really for this alternative history to work Hitler would need to have been killed in one of the numerous assassination attempts against his life and someone competent and less of a raving Nazi takes his place.

 

[Mountainbikecel]

yes, vote for the foid.

 

[TheProphetMuscle]