Being mentally ill makes us physically ugly more than we would have been, the mental stress warps our bodies.
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Being mentally ill makes us physically ugly more than we would have been, the mental stress warps our bodies.
Not tagged again award for me
Very insightful thread and very interesting read, read every word
And no surprise ngl
Very insightful thread and very interesting read, read every word
And no surprise ngl
I can at least confirm I do not have ED, I coom thrice daily.
A massive thank you to whoever moved this to must-read. 
A massive thank you to whoever moved this to must-read.
This is DEFINITELY a must read thread.
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man same... for me as a child, they thought i had 'learning difficulties', i went to these special appointments but apparently i wasn't deemed autistic, just retarded or something.
The same thing happened to me. They would take me out of class for a few minutes every day to talk to a woman. I remember she asked me some questions, but I don't remember what they were.
Hell, we're often told that we should be GRATEFUL that we're unwanted and rejected by everyone, because somehow being hated by everyone instantly our whole lives is better than a less than perfect relationshipOne of the most important parts here. Whenever it's brought up how privileged females are thanks to their infinite romantic options with basically all members of the opposite sex being into them and available to them at any moment, in any context, the counter is always that most of those options are shit, would lead to abusive/unhappy relationships, and so on, but conversely, relationship quality like that is never a question for men. We are just assumed to always be happy with whatever we have, and in fact, are almost seen as incapable of not being so
And yet if you became NT tomorrow, via pioneering medical treatments, therapies and 50 fecal transplants, very little would actually change in your life.
Take the life history pill. A bad life history is a fatal wound because everyone is obsessed with the past and the real status of those they socialize with.
Starting from a very early age all normal people display a total obsession with associating with those who have already reached a certain margin of success. This standard only gets more strict with age.
You cope how you just need a better smile when that's filter 1 out of 1000.
Take the life history pill. A bad life history is a fatal wound because everyone is obsessed with the past and the real status of those they socialize with.
Starting from a very early age all normal people display a total obsession with associating with those who have already reached a certain margin of success. This standard only gets more strict with age.
You cope how you just need a better smile when that's filter 1 out of 1000.
Like a chronic medical condition, many severe psychiatric disorders will get you instantly written off in the dating pool as a lot of people think that they will be stuck having to take care of you.
We also cannot say that everybody who has interests in niche topics or is socially akward then is autistic, but that happens all the time
I am sincerely sorry for you...
Being born Non-NT male is like being spawn-trapped.Out of all the different "pills" discussed on this forum, the NTpill is one that many still disparage. While the usual suspects will immediately claim that a "good personality" takes precedence over any neurological condition, I have also witnessed a few highly-regarded members of this community state that the NTpill is obsolete and that physical apperance is the the only thing that matters to women.
In this post, I intend to finally put an end to this debate once and for all—using scientifically proven data to support my claims.
The first study I would like to submit is this one (click to view) published by BMC Psychiatry in 2025, which examines the multitude of effects autism has on both men and women. Below, I intend to itemize the excerpts that have stood out to me the most.
Autistic men are more likely to experience erectile dysfunction than their neurotypical counterparts.
Compared to autistic men, autistic women are far more likely to be in a romatic relationship.
In spite of what feminists will tell you, the vast majority of those relationships are not abusive in nature. In fact, it is autistic MEN who report less satisfaction in their romatic relationships.
Autistic women have been proven to have higher self-esteem (in terms of sexual attractiveness), compared to autistic men.
They are also far more experienced than autistic men, even if they report a lower general interest in sexual matters.
The second study on this list is from Frontiers in Psychiatry. (click to view) Written in 2021, it details the sexual development of autistic adolescents.
According to the provided data, autistic boys are less likely to experience common behaviors associated with intimacy than TD, or "typically developing" boys.
However, the same cannot be said for autistic girls.
In fact, they are more likely to have a partner than even neurotypical boys.
To cap this off, I have compiled a collection of miscellaneous studies about how autism negatively impacts relationships:
Autisic women are better received than autistic men, and are more adept at masking their neurodivergent behaviors.
Sex/Gender Differences in Camouflaging in Children and Adolescents with Autism - PMC
This study investigated sex/gender differences in camouflaging with children and adolescents (N = 84) with and without an autism diagnosis/increased levels of autistic traits using two conceptualisations/operationalisations of camouflaging. A ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Camouflage and masking behavior in adult autism - PMC
Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is characterized by persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across multiple contexts. Social camouflaging was first shown to be a characteristic of autistic persons, who actively try to ...
Those with ASD are generally seen as less trustworthy than those without.
Autistic Adults May Be Erroneously Perceived as Deceptive and Lacking Credibility - PMC
We hypothesized that autistic adults may be erroneously judged as deceptive or lacking credibility due to demonstrating unexpected and atypical behaviors. Thirty autistic and 29 neurotypical individuals participated in video-recorded interviews, and ...
It is scientifically possible to detect whether someone is autistic or not based on their face, indicating that the disorder also affects one's looks.
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Neurotypicals can subconsciously detect whether or not someone is autistic.
Even as children, we are perceived worse by adults.
Frontiers | Negative first impression judgements of autistic children by non-autistic adults
Although autism inclusion and acceptance has increased in recent years, autistic people continue to face stigmatization, exclusion, and victimization. Based ...www.frontiersin.org
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Tagging those who may be interested:
@Autist, @wereq, @Grodd, @DarkStar, @AsiaCel, @Gone Ghostie, @The Notorious SLAV, @Dr. Autismo, @Rapistcel, @NEB.feelsdevil, @Uggo Mongo, @Genetics_subhuman, @Mecoja, @Misogynist Vegeta, @Fat Link, @DoomThreeShotgunner, @Hoodpreet, @SlayerSlayer, @AtrociousCitizen
It's insta-over.
16% of autistic guys are in relationships, but only 11% of those (1.7% total) are "satisfied". That means: 84% of autistic guys have no one to talk to. 15% are being scammed and used for free meals or online cuckdom etc. Only 1.7% are reporting a "satisfactory" relationship. How many of them are deluding themselves and how many are getting their dicks wet satisfactorily? I'm sure many are lying about it too... Brutal, Bros.
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"Female autism" yeah right. Utter bullshit. Way too many whores these days calling themselves autistic for trying to fit in or special points.
ND STAREOut of all the different "pills" discussed on this forum, the NTpill is one that many still disparage. While the usual suspects will immediately claim that a "good personality" takes precedence over any neurological condition, I have also witnessed a few highly-regarded members of this community state that the NTpill is obsolete and that physical apperance is the the only thing that matters to women.
In this post, I intend to finally put an end to this debate once and for all—using scientifically proven data to support my claims.
The first study I would like to submit is this one (click to view) published by BMC Psychiatry in 2025, which examines the multitude of effects autism has on both men and women. Below, I intend to itemize the excerpts that have stood out to me the most.
Autistic men are more likely to experience erectile dysfunction than their neurotypical counterparts.
Compared to autistic men, autistic women are far more likely to be in a romatic relationship.
In spite of what feminists will tell you, the vast majority of those relationships are not abusive in nature. In fact, it is autistic MEN who report less satisfaction in their romatic relationships.
Autistic women have been proven to have higher self-esteem (in terms of sexual attractiveness), compared to autistic men.
They are also far more experienced than autistic men, even if they report a lower general interest in sexual matters.
The second study on this list is from Frontiers in Psychiatry. (click to view) Written in 2021, it details the sexual development of autistic adolescents.
According to the provided data, autistic boys are less likely to experience common behaviors associated with intimacy than TD, or "typically developing" boys.
However, the same cannot be said for autistic girls.
In fact, they are more likely to have a partner than even neurotypical boys.
To cap this off, I have compiled a collection of miscellaneous studies about how autism negatively impacts relationships:
Autisic women are better received than autistic men, and are more adept at masking their neurodivergent behaviors.
Sex/Gender Differences in Camouflaging in Children and Adolescents with Autism - PMC
This study investigated sex/gender differences in camouflaging with children and adolescents (N = 84) with and without an autism diagnosis/increased levels of autistic traits using two conceptualisations/operationalisations of camouflaging. A ...
Camouflage and masking behavior in adult autism - PMC
Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is characterized by persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across multiple contexts. Social camouflaging was first shown to be a characteristic of autistic persons, who actively try to ...
Those with ASD are generally seen as less trustworthy than those without.
Autistic Adults May Be Erroneously Perceived as Deceptive and Lacking Credibility - PMC
We hypothesized that autistic adults may be erroneously judged as deceptive or lacking credibility due to demonstrating unexpected and atypical behaviors. Thirty autistic and 29 neurotypical individuals participated in video-recorded interviews, and ...
It is scientifically possible to detect whether someone is autistic or not based on their face, indicating that the disorder also affects one's looks.
View attachment 1577282
Neurotypicals can subconsciously detect whether or not someone is autistic.
Even as children, we are perceived worse by adults.
Frontiers | Negative first impression judgements of autistic children by non-autistic adults
Although autism inclusion and acceptance has increased in recent years, autistic people continue to face stigmatization, exclusion, and victimization. Based ...
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Tagging those who may be interested:
@Autist, @wereq, @Grodd, @DarkStar, @AsiaCel, @Gone Ghostie, @The Notorious SLAV, @Dr. Autismo, @Rapistcel, @NEB.feelsdevil, @Uggo Mongo, @Genetics_subhuman, @Mecoja, @Misogynist Vegeta, @Fat Link, @DoomThreeShotgunner, @Hoodpreet, @SlayerSlayer, @AtrociousCitizen
this should be a must read
already is
It's self-reported.
Many autistic guys report having a "girlfriend" who is actually a professional scammer in India engaging with him online and asking for money once in a while.
Actual girlfriends they fuck in the holes and suck the nipples in the cinema and whatnot is something about 1% of autists ever get, and it often doesn't last.
Brutal
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chad - slays
ND + chad - slays alt foids
normie - betabuxx
ND + normie - .is
sub5 (any) - .is
ND + chad - slays alt foids
normie - betabuxx
ND + normie - .is
sub5 (any) - .is
It's beyond ovER for me
I refuse to believe females can be ND they don't seem to be at all and all are just larping, and this theory I have is also being enforced by the study here, with how they can mask their "autism".Out of all the different "pills" discussed on this forum, the NTpill is one that many still disparage. While the usual suspects will immediately claim that a "good personality" takes precedence over any neurological condition, I have also witnessed a few highly-regarded members of this community state that the NTpill is obsolete and that physical apperance is the the only thing that matters to women.
In this post, I intend to finally put an end to this debate once and for all—using scientifically proven data to support my claims.
The first study I would like to submit is this one (click to view) published by BMC Psychiatry in 2025, which examines the multitude of effects autism has on both men and women. Below, I intend to itemize the excerpts that have stood out to me the most.
Autistic men are more likely to experience erectile dysfunction than their neurotypical counterparts.
Compared to autistic men, autistic women are far more likely to be in a romatic relationship.
In spite of what feminists will tell you, the vast majority of those relationships are not abusive in nature. In fact, it is autistic MEN who report less satisfaction in their romatic relationships.
Autistic women have been proven to have higher self-esteem (in terms of sexual attractiveness), compared to autistic men.
They are also far more experienced than autistic men, even if they report a lower general interest in sexual matters.
The second study on this list is from Frontiers in Psychiatry. (click to view) Written in 2021, it details the sexual development of autistic adolescents.
According to the provided data, autistic boys are less likely to experience common behaviors associated with intimacy than TD, or "typically developing" boys.
However, the same cannot be said for autistic girls.
In fact, they are more likely to have a partner than even neurotypical boys.
To cap this off, I have compiled a collection of miscellaneous studies about how autism negatively impacts relationships:
Autisic women are better received than autistic men, and are more adept at masking their neurodivergent behaviors.
Sex/Gender Differences in Camouflaging in Children and Adolescents with Autism - PMC
This study investigated sex/gender differences in camouflaging with children and adolescents (N = 84) with and without an autism diagnosis/increased levels of autistic traits using two conceptualisations/operationalisations of camouflaging. A ...
Camouflage and masking behavior in adult autism - PMC
Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is characterized by persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across multiple contexts. Social camouflaging was first shown to be a characteristic of autistic persons, who actively try to ...
Those with ASD are generally seen as less trustworthy than those without.
Autistic Adults May Be Erroneously Perceived as Deceptive and Lacking Credibility - PMC
We hypothesized that autistic adults may be erroneously judged as deceptive or lacking credibility due to demonstrating unexpected and atypical behaviors. Thirty autistic and 29 neurotypical individuals participated in video-recorded interviews, and ...
It is scientifically possible to detect whether someone is autistic or not based on their face, indicating that the disorder also affects one's looks.
View attachment 1577282
Neurotypicals can subconsciously detect whether or not someone is autistic.
Even as children, we are perceived worse by adults.
Frontiers | Negative first impression judgements of autistic children by non-autistic adults
Although autism inclusion and acceptance has increased in recent years, autistic people continue to face stigmatization, exclusion, and victimization. Based ...
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Tagging those who may be interested:
@Autist, @wereq, @Grodd, @DarkStar, @AsiaCel, @Gone Ghostie, @The Notorious SLAV, @Dr. Autismo, @Rapistcel, @NEB.feelsdevil, @Uggo Mongo, @Genetics_subhuman, @Mecoja, @Misogynist Vegeta, @Fat Link, @DoomThreeShotgunner, @Hoodpreet, @SlayerSlayer, @AtrociousCitizen
HOLY FUCK IT MAKES SENSE WHY PPL NEVER TRUST ME,EVEN WEN I SAY THE TRUTH OR WHEN I GET FALSELY ACCUSED,WHY ALL THE TEACHERS STUDENTS TREATED ME LIKE TRASH,DISLIKED ME AND STUFF....AND WHY MY FAMILY AND RELATIVES TREATED AND STILL TREAT ME LIKE SHIT EVEN WHEN I WAS A FUCKING KID.
I have never diagnosed for stuff but still I have experienced this all and they always never made sense to me during my childhood and teen years.... I had very hard time trying to know what people say,feel and think of me ...whether they're mocking me or teasing me in an endearing manner, they're being sarcastic or serious,whether they were comfortable wth me or not...and all such stuff, their facial expressions,gestures,body languages etc.I also have hard tlme socializing...talking to ppl too...
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NT and Familypill is the LEAST talked about....same with other stuff like relations with people in general,in soyciety,workplace etc. Most talked about stuff is just sex,dating and relationship with foids.
normgroid indians are even more insufferable than your normgroid westerner.
not just for ascending with foid,how can you even survive in soyciety among normgroid men and women in general.
Feel you bro
This
QRD on Alfred Kinsley.
LMAO TRVKE
A really good point brought up,Hate cucks and foids so much bros.One of the most important parts here. Whenever it's brought up how privileged females are thanks to their infinite romantic options with basically all members of the opposite sex being into them and available to them at any moment, in any context, the counter is always that most of those options are shit, would lead to abusive/unhappy relationships, and so on, but conversely, relationship quality like that is never a question for men. We are just assumed to always be happy with whatever we have, and in fact, are almost seen as incapable of not being so
JFL BROOTAL for NDcelsThat percentage is also inflated by gay autistic men. The study included both sexual experiences with women and men.
Frontiers | Sexual Knowledge, Desires, and Experience of Adolescents and Young Adults With an Autism Spectrum Disorder: An Exploratory Study
Although most persons with an Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) wish to have romantic and/or sexual relationships, little is known about self-report sexuality o...
The study also didn't account for escortmaxxing. What percentage of these autistic men just visited escorts?
Things are even grimmer for autistic men than the studies let on.
It's a really bad life to be autistic.
I dont understand...do you mean that "we should be grateful that we're "not" unwanted and rejected by everyone"? and "being hated by everyone instantly our whole lives is "worse" than a less than perfect relationship"?
only peak chad who never lose is dark triad chad,the rest below him are meant to lose and the difference is in the chances of losing....
DT chad- never lose
Nice chad- slim chance of loosing and cucked( happens when DT chad appears in foid life)
neurodivergent chad- even more chance of getting cucked and losing( if DT or nice chad appears)
the rest of sub 7 are destined to lose regardless.
True.
Only Chad looks makes up for ND somewhat. ND just sinks you down so much.
Autism also isnt a thing for women. Neither is social anxiety or most mental illness. A lot of mental illness is environmental at the end of the day.
You may be born different but bad treatment from society makes sure to hammer that down and break you
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Its jus so damn over for autists, at least we can temp ntmaxx with drugs
I shared the same fate, it truly never began but at least my anger allowed me to cope through it all lol
To be fair being seen as tolerable rather than loveable in a relationship sounds worse honestly
It's a tragedy.
Looks get you trought the door, being nt keeps you in, as an example if you meet some foid, she will be nice to you because of your looks but if you are ND she will lose interest after a few minutes of conversation, but again, if you are good looking enough it will be overlooked.
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What about ND extrovert?Out of all the different "pills" discussed on this forum, the NTpill is one that many still disparage. While the usual suspects will immediately claim that a "good personality" takes precedence over any neurological condition, I have also witnessed a few highly-regarded members of this community state that the NTpill is obsolete and that physical apperance is the the only thing that matters to women.
In this post, I intend to finally put an end to this debate once and for all—using scientifically proven data to support my claims.
The first study I would like to submit is this one (click to view) published by BMC Psychiatry in 2025, which examines the multitude of effects autism has on both men and women. Below, I intend to itemize the excerpts that have stood out to me the most.
Autistic men are more likely to experience erectile dysfunction than their neurotypical counterparts.
Compared to autistic men, autistic women are far more likely to be in a romatic relationship.
In spite of what feminists will tell you, the vast majority of those relationships are not abusive in nature. In fact, it is autistic MEN who report less satisfaction in their romatic relationships.
Autistic women have been proven to have higher self-esteem (in terms of sexual attractiveness), compared to autistic men.
They are also far more experienced than autistic men, even if they report a lower general interest in sexual matters.
The second study on this list is from Frontiers in Psychiatry. (click to view) Written in 2021, it details the sexual development of autistic adolescents.
According to the provided data, autistic boys are less likely to experience common behaviors associated with intimacy than TD, or "typically developing" boys.
However, the same cannot be said for autistic girls.
In fact, they are more likely to have a partner than even neurotypical boys.
To cap this off, I have compiled a collection of miscellaneous studies about how autism negatively impacts relationships:
Autisic women are better received than autistic men, and are more adept at masking their neurodivergent behaviors.
Sex/Gender Differences in Camouflaging in Children and Adolescents with Autism - PMC
This study investigated sex/gender differences in camouflaging with children and adolescents (N = 84) with and without an autism diagnosis/increased levels of autistic traits using two conceptualisations/operationalisations of camouflaging. A ...
Camouflage and masking behavior in adult autism - PMC
Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is characterized by persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across multiple contexts. Social camouflaging was first shown to be a characteristic of autistic persons, who actively try to ...
Those with ASD are generally seen as less trustworthy than those without.
Autistic Adults May Be Erroneously Perceived as Deceptive and Lacking Credibility - PMC
We hypothesized that autistic adults may be erroneously judged as deceptive or lacking credibility due to demonstrating unexpected and atypical behaviors. Thirty autistic and 29 neurotypical individuals participated in video-recorded interviews, and ...
It is scientifically possible to detect whether someone is autistic or not based on their face, indicating that the disorder also affects one's looks.
View attachment 1577282
Neurotypicals can subconsciously detect whether or not someone is autistic.
Even as children, we are perceived worse by adults.
Frontiers | Negative first impression judgements of autistic children by non-autistic adults
Although autism inclusion and acceptance has increased in recent years, autistic people continue to face stigmatization, exclusion, and victimization. Based ...
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Tagging those who may be interested:
@Autist, @wereq, @Grodd, @DarkStar, @AsiaCel, @Gone Ghostie, @The Notorious SLAV, @Dr. Autismo, @Rapistcel, @NEB.feelsdevil, @Uggo Mongo, @Genetics_subhuman, @Mecoja, @Misogynist Vegeta, @Fat Link, @DoomThreeShotgunner, @Hoodpreet, @SlayerSlayer, @AtrociousCitizen
NDpill is total life death. more brutal than imaginable
So, out of that 16% of autistic men in relationships, not only are they disproportionately gay, but another chunk of them are betabuxxers and cucks? It's over. Just shoot my monkey ass.
this is extremely brutal. As a autistic/nt and ugly male you constantly have to beat the odds, within beating the odds. 3-4 layers of it. So the autistic guy I knew who started having a sexual (sending nudes mutually) long distance relationship, honestly means nothing. He now has to beat the odds of even meeting, and then being satisfied and not used somehow. So then maybe 1 out of 50 guys with a major defect end up living a normal life. Whereas for roasties its all irrelevant. Total autistic foid death
Autistic men would satisfy the needs of any woman. Yet these dumbass foids would rather be whores for normies and up. I always roll my eyes so hard when a bitch says "they want someone kind". Nah you want Chad who's kind. Every other man is invisible.
I mean, the fact that Autistic men are overrepresented in these forums speaks for itself. It's why I think social status plays as much if not more of a role than looks because Autistics tend to have lower status.
amazing post, and i can completely relate with a lot of things said on this thread.
i've always been told to be more "confident" or to get a "better personality" when i couldnt do it, i was too scared to approach people, i struggled to talk to them and they always felt out of my reach, not only that but i also looked below average and so it was even harder for me.
even NTs dont even know what they mean by personality, and so they exclude us from having one in a way.
Masking your autism isnt an escape route neither because it doesnt work and you're still limited
i've always been told to be more "confident" or to get a "better personality" when i couldnt do it, i was too scared to approach people, i struggled to talk to them and they always felt out of my reach, not only that but i also looked below average and so it was even harder for me.
even NTs dont even know what they mean by personality, and so they exclude us from having one in a way.
Masking your autism isnt an escape route neither because it doesnt work and you're still limited
No lies have been said. That's a good thing to read and to think about
Great post, really informative
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